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Why is Chicago so against ketchup on hot dogs?

>> No.15030657

>>15030646
>chicago dog pictured clearly has a tomato on it already

I WONDER WHO COULD GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS

>> No.15030666

>>15030657
But its not just for chi-dogs they are like that for ALL of them.

Also burgers also have tomatoes and ketchup. And this very dog also has relish AND a pickle. How is that different?

>> No.15030677

>>15030646
Its all the midwest really, if you ask for ketchup with your dog once you cross the Appalachians it causes them to have an autistic fit

>> No.15030680

>>15030646
Who cares what chicago thinks about anything. It is a shithole. I hate it when people like sports casters say it has a midwestern feel. I live in the midwest and chicago is an entirely different entity

>> No.15030708

>>15030646
I've heard Chicago dogs are pretty good. I mean the sport peppers, neon relish, poppy seed bun, and all that look good. But the goddamn pickle spear the size of the hot dog itself seems so offputting.

>> No.15030709

>>15030646
>Why is Chicago so against ketchup on hot dogs?
Because mustard is based

>> No.15030713

Ketchup is a shit condiment and nobody should be putting it on anything.

>> No.15030715

>>15030708
It'd take an italian beef over a chicago dog every day of the week

>> No.15030724

>>15030646
Idk, I think those are just insecure people that need to make declarative statements to make themselves feel superior.

I just like good tasting food. Personally I don't think ketchup would add to the experience on a Chicago dog, but there are plenty of good times to put ketchup on a dog.

>> No.15030725

>>15030715
Most definitely, as a matter of fact I had one this weekend, but I still kind of want to try it.

>> No.15030729

>>15030677
Iowan here. Most everyone I know puts ketchup on their dogs.

>> No.15030738

>>15030677
Im midwest and I dont do ketchup on hot dogs. I dont get why people get offended about it, but they do. You can pour gravy all over everything here, but ketchup on a dog is sacreliguous

>> No.15030753

>>15030729
Iowa here too. I see more chilli on dogs than ketchup.

>> No.15030756

>>15030729
What about their hot dogs though?

>> No.15030780

>>15030666
>Also burgers also have tomatoes and ketchup. And this very dog also has relish AND a pickle. How is that different?
It's one or the other.
Tomato + mayo
OR ketchup.

>> No.15030784

>>15030646
ketchup is for fries and meatloaf only.
if you disagree you are a negroid or a literal child(if this is the case,leave this site)

>> No.15030788

>>15030729
Where you at in Iowa bro? Im west of Des Moines

>> No.15030797

>>15030784
I like to mix ketchup and horseradish for shrimp sauce. Ketchup on meatloaf is gross

>> No.15030807

>>15030666
They don't traditionally put ketchup on burgers in Chicago either. Polish sausage stands will only give you mustard on your burger

>> No.15030817

>>15030797
It's pretty good as a sauce mix for glazing once it cooks down.

>> No.15030826

>yank culture is just hotdogs so they scream about doing it wrong

>> No.15030832

>>15030657
>pickle + relish is ok
>tomato + ketchup is not
why?

>> No.15030833

>>15030788
Nice! My buddy lives there. I'm in Iowa City

>> No.15030843

>>15030646
Because it's redundant. The chicago dog does not need ketchup because you get the same flavour experience from the pickled stuff plus the tomato. other non-chicago style dogs in chicago can get ketchup, but not the chicago dog.

>> No.15030846

>>15030833
I went to school at U of I. Good times in Iowa City!

>> No.15030894

>>15030843
Yeah I live like 5 minutes from campus. What did you graduate with?

>> No.15030905

>>15030646
>grew up in chicago
>as a child always put ketchup on my hotdog
>no one shit on me, I only found out years later about the no ketchup meme
>found out hot dogs actually do taste a bit better without ketchup

>> No.15030910

>>15030894
Degree in finance with a minor in math. I lived in Gillcrest dorms when I was a freshman. A shithole house of Melrose by the stadium as a sophmore. The rest of the time in an aprtment of Gilbert street by a bar called The Vine. I graduated in 01

>> No.15030912

>>15030646
I think most people are against it.

It overthrows the whole thing. It's fucking disgusting and doesn't complement the already-sweet hotdog and bun. Wypipo style ketchup belongs nowhere near any meat. Mustard adds some nice acidity without turning the whole thing into a 5 year old's dream cuisine, but sauerkraut is the GOAT topping, even on cheap steamed hat dags

>> No.15030924

>>15030646
Ketchup is gross

>> No.15030937

>>15030912
>wypipo style ketchup
As opposed to traditional Ethiopian style ketchup?

>> No.15030945

>>15030937
Ketchup is from China, you fucking retard

>> No.15030949

>>15030910
Hillcrest dorms I meant

>> No.15030965

>>15030937
Ketchup (ke chiap, gwai zap) is basically a pickled fish sauce. Wypipo tried to make it with fermented grapes and mushrooms and eventually turned it into the monstrosity that it is today, which is some sweet, juvenile tomato sauce

>> No.15030966

>>15030910
Oh damn senpai, you've got some time on me, I was born in 96. Those houses by the stadium are shit though, my uncle owned one for a while and it was a dump, but it was always rented

>> No.15030978

>>15030945
>this thing from 17th century China that is in absolutely no way related to the modern version of ketchup created by the British and Americans is ketchup because white people stole the name.

>> No.15030980

>>15030937
There's also banana ketchup from the Philippines. It's much better than whitey ketchup.

>> No.15030984

>>15030708
Buddy, you haven't had a Chicago dog? I don't even really like hot dogs in general but I'll go out of my way to acquire a good Chi dog, dawg

>> No.15030998

>>15030978
I'm glad I finally forced you to google it and educate yourself. Yes, white people ketchup (as it should be called) is disgustingly immature.

They didn't so much steal the name, as they failed to reproduce the condiment faithfully. An unrefined white palate probably sees no problems with it, which is hilarious.

It's just like how they stole Worcestershire sauce.

>> No.15031014

>>15030998
>Although original recipes used egg whites, mushrooms, oysters, grapes, mussels, or walnuts, among other ingredients
When something that disgusting exists, it is the white mans job to steal the name and make something actually edible

>> No.15031028

>>15031014
American cooks also began to sweeten ketchup in the 19th century.[18]

I'm white, but white ketchup is unforgiveable.

>> No.15031032

>>15031014
Reading comprehension fail. Those original recipes are the failed attempts at copying the original Malay/Chinese versions.

>> No.15031041

>>15030980
Banana ketchup actually is really good. A bit more tangy, but more viscous so not as versatile for dunking smaller things.

>> No.15031045

>>15030966
Your uncle wasnt a teacher was he? I dont remember the address, but the house was a shitty duplex divided between upstairs and downstairs. We had the magic bus in our backyard on game days

>> No.15031051

>>15031028
>>15031032
Whatever, fegs. I'm sure what we have in the states is better than some bullshit fish goop they made 2000 years ago. Who even gives a shit?

>> No.15031060

>>15030646
they enjoy the solidified ketchup crust better

>> No.15031070

>>15031051
Redditors.

>> No.15031090

>>15030784
brown gravy on meatloaf is better

>> No.15031097

>>15030784
I prefer yellow mustard on fries

>> No.15031100

>>15031045
No he was in medicine and his house was one of the ranches. I remember seeing that bus as a kid though when I'd go to the games

>> No.15031104

>>15031051
Cope. White ketchup is trash

>> No.15031120

>>15031051
"European-Arabic theory
American anthropologist E.N. Anderson relies on Elizabeth David to claim that ketchup is a cognate of the French escaveche, meaning "food in sauce".[39] The word also exists in Spanish and Portuguese forms as escabeche, "a sauce for pickling", which culinary historian Karen Hess traced back to Arabic Kabees, or "pickling with vinegar". The term was anglicized to caveach, a word first attested in the late 17th century, at the same time as ketchup.[35]"

Wh*te people will come up with anything in order to try and strip credit away from Asians.

>> No.15031129

>>15031051
Cope, cumskin

>> No.15031134

>>15031120
Based, as they should. Americans make all food from around the world better

>> No.15031152

>>15031134
When are they gonna start doing that?

>> No.15031156

>>15031152
tex-mex>pure mexican food

>> No.15031179

>>15030646
what the fuck is that shit

>> No.15031186

>>15031179
A sandwich.

>> No.15031189

Not from Chicago or have ever been anywhere close to it, but mustard was the original hot dog condiment. Hince good German mustard. A child's palate can't handle mustard so that's why you shouldn't eat ketchup on one past the age of 6.

>> No.15031190

>>15031179
Its the hot dog perfected

>> No.15031211

>>15031156
Truth. Worst mexican food Ive ever had was in mexico. Got sicker than fuck too.

>> No.15031219

>>15030646
ketchup fucking sucks

>> No.15031227

>>15031211
Its so fucking bland and dry

>> No.15031245

>>15031156
>>15031211
>>15031227
Where did you idiots eat in Mexico? A fucking resort, no doubt. You have no idea how much better real Mexican food is compared to tex mex.

>> No.15031256

>>15031227
>bland and dry
There is not a single bland mexican dish. You got scammed somehow.

It's not my favorite cuisine but it's miles ahead of tex mex

>> No.15031272

Because it reminds them of blood and blood reminds them of their homicide rate, and they like to pretend it doesn't exist.

>> No.15031284

>>15031245
>>15031256
Keep defending authentic mexican food. Its unseasoned overcooked meat on a corn tortilla or it's a fucking 25 ingredient sloppa in a styrofoam container. Someone post the webms.

>> No.15031300

>>15031284
Bolvian food>>>>mexican food

I would suck a dick for some tuco

>> No.15031311

>>15030646
>Using anything but bratwurst, sauerkraut and hot mustard.

Who cares, Chicago sucks anyways.

>> No.15031312

>>15030646
No room.

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>>15031284

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>authentic mexican food

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>>15031245
>>15031256
>Authentic non resort food

>> No.15031344

>>15031245
Been there 3 times. Ate every where. Good fruit and margaritas. Thats it. Always got sick. Shit dirt and puked.

>> No.15031346

>>15031129
Cum has a beautiful color

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>>15031245
>>15031256
>>15031284

>> No.15031360

>>15031322
That is way too much sauce

>> No.15031364

>>15031284
The worst is mexican street corn. Total garbage.

>> No.15031376

i might be the only one who likes plain hotdogs. i buy natural casing and just want to eat the bread and the dog. if I get bar-s or something i'll use relish, onion, chili, whatever

>> No.15031378

>>15031364
Jesus fuck why do they use mayo!

And corn on the cob is such a poor carb base for toppings like that, you just get this big blast fo creamy taijin tang then you are just eating moist corn

>> No.15031379

>>15031322
>>15031342
>>15031343
>>15031357
I'm convinced Mexico isn't actually a country, it's just a giant open-air gas station.

>> No.15031410

>>15030680
Chicago is nicer than your shithole and I don't even know where you live.
t. Old Town resident

>> No.15031415

>>15031410
Its nice if you like getting shot

>> No.15031418

>>15031410
>gets shot

>> No.15031437

>>15030713
Chup is great on tendies.

>> No.15031450

>>15030715
My buddy found a great Italian beef crock pot recipe. Just a chuck roast with a whole jar of sliced peperoncini.

>> No.15031579

>>15030646
The tomato is already in there, bud. We put spot peppers on the dog. They are hot, but they have this peculiar sweetness to them that fills in the gaps

>> No.15031697

>>15030680
Shut the fuck up new york trash

>> No.15031707 [DELETED] 

>>15031697
>Living in a big city with niggers everywhere
I don't care what city you live in, city dwellers are fucking retarded and all cities blow

>> No.15031741

>>15031697
How did you come up with NY? Im rural.

>> No.15032209

>>15031741
shut up you rural kike

>> No.15032220

>>15030713
burgers, fish sticks, fries, and meatloaf, ketchup is a MUST

>> No.15032222

>>15030646
Chicago is full of violent black people.

>> No.15032233

>>15032220
>fishsticks
i can't remember the last time i had a fish stick but i actually agree. you need tartar sauce also, though.

>> No.15032254

>>15032233
Same, I haven't had them in forever, so I went and bought the Gordon fisherman beer battered planks, gonna eat with some tater tots. hard nostalgia meal for me

>> No.15032322

>>15030646
Because nonces like yourself perpetuate the meme. That’s literally the only reason, OP.

>> No.15032328

>>15030646
Not enough Chinese population.

>> No.15032391

>>15032222
>>15032222
>>15032222
>>15032222
>>15032222
quads of truth

>> No.15032425

>>15031322
The fuck? People actually eat this shit?

>> No.15032506

>>15031245
The only exceptional Mexican dishes are their moles and soups. Everything else was made better through tex mex. There's a reason why traditional Mexican restaurants do markedly worse here in Texas - Mexicans patronize tex mex overwhelmingly more often.
>t. Texan border town

>> No.15032509

>>15031376
>i might be the only one who likes plain hotdogs.
My mom did. It's weirdly refreshing. Hebrew National.

>> No.15032585

>>15032509
No one cares what your mom's political affiliation is, retard. We're talking about hot dogs and why it's a sin to put sweet ketchup on them.

>> No.15032588

Chicago is full of blacks and Italians, who are both extremely autistic/picky about food.

>> No.15033159

who here /lean/?

>> No.15033165

>>15030646
It's not just Chicago, it's most people older than 10 who understand what a good hotdog ought to be. I could give a fuck if you drench your grocery store garbage dog in ketchup. But if you put ketchup on a Vienna beef or a real quality NYC hotdog, then you're actually making it worse.

>> No.15033171

>>15030784
My nigga

>> No.15033176

>>15030725
Theyre quite good with all the fixings. To me it feels like the dog becomes less the star and more an accoutrement to the whole garden

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>>15033159
helps if I attach the incredibly detailed jpeg

>> No.15033188

>>15030846
What do you do midwesterners even do in those tiny little cities?

>> No.15033198

>>15030646
im NOT going to read any of the replies before responding. ketchup is for literal man children and 12 year olds

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>>15033176
they should put in 2 dogs like an italian hot dog

>> No.15033844

>>15033188
Have heated debates about ketchup on hot dogs

>> No.15033902

>>15030646
There is a certain joy to a hotdog with just mustard and no ketchup but I don't advise anyone get autistic over it. It's just a condiment and you can't make the perfect dog every time you want one.

>> No.15033946

>>15033188
You are right its awful here. I got raped by niggers while walking my pet pig on a dirt road.

>> No.15033974

>>15030784
ketchup is best used to add to other sauces. its a great base for bbq sauces.

>> No.15034004

>>15031410
based chiraquistani

>> No.15034018

>>15030646
their city is a dangerous shithole with a poor reputation thanks to a certain group of people but they're not allowed to get mad at them for it so instead they get mad at tourists asking for condiments

>> No.15034022

Who loads up a hot dog? Fucking stupid if you ask me. Its not a burger.

>> No.15034076

>>15031376
If you can't eat something plain, it's not worth eating at all.

>> No.15034135

>>15031129
Sup Tommy?

>> No.15034567

>>15030646
Because they aren't gay.

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>>15034076

>> No.15034861

>>15030646
>>15030784
Being a Southerner, I had no idea you homos eat shit like this. Imagine not eating a hot dog with chili, ketchup, and mustard. You people live sad lives.

>> No.15034916

>>15030646
these shitty amerimutts-pretending-to-have-cuisine thing is a meme, but there is an actual reason

mustard is a spicy strong
ketchup is a mild sweet

burgers are mild fresh
hotdogs are rank processed

spicy mustard just goes well with the minced half putrefying hot dog meat. you wouldn't put lipstick on a pig

>> No.15034919

>>15031322
>>15031342
>>15031343
>>15031357
God, it's like minorities want people to hate them.

>> No.15034920

>>15031343
That one isn't even that bad. I'd skip the japon peanuts and cut back on the tajin, but it's not covered in candy or swimming in clamato.

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>> No.15035268

>>15034928
Lived i md my whole life and never heard of a crab mac and cheese dog.

It seems to be a baltimore thing.

I also had no idea half smokes were a regional thing. They are good as fuck

>> No.15035322

I like ketchup just as much as mustard on a hot dog. If I have 2 hot dogs 1 is getting ketchup.

>> No.15035583

>>15030965
These evil "ypippuh" have been making pickles fish sauce for thousands of years, you cringenigger

>> No.15035595 [DELETED] 

>>15030998
Whitey invented ketchup, fish sauce, basically every condiment, and grew every spice for consumption. Stay mad nigger, and thank a White man for your good life every day.

>> No.15035886

>>15035583
And yet that filed miserably at it. Twice.

>> No.15035984

>>15030646
There are a few tourist places that use the no ketchup meme, but nobody else cares.

>> No.15036124

>>15031410
They're entirely right. I've lived in all sorts of places in the midwest.
Chicago is different, usually in a negative way.
t. Lincoln Park

>> No.15036751

>>15035583
yea i'm sure everyone loves putrid surstroming. wigger

>> No.15037033

>>15035886
Theyre the originators. Everything is based on theirs.

>> No.15037038

>>15036751
Can you even read, blackoid? Holy fuck shitskins can barely keep up with humans

>> No.15037722

>>15034861
why are you dousing your shit with so many sauces?

>> No.15037816

>>15030646
>mustard
>ketchup
>cheese slices that will melt
>butter
I like my dogs this way since I make them myself. Rate my tastes.

>> No.15038376 [DELETED] 

>>15030998
Get cancer gook faggot

>> No.15038383

>>15031028
>white
>white ketchup
Gtfo apologetic faggot

>> No.15038387

>>15036751
Some butthurt nignog/chang in this thread
Inferiority complex right there

>> No.15038443

American restaurants are dying so hard to stand out they'll remove an item and call it a specialty

>> No.15039008

>>15034928
>Coney
>Chili

No, its more like a meat slurry but tastes delicious.

>> No.15039038

>>15031410
Lmfao old town? rlly?

>> No.15039447

>>15031415
>>15031418
You don't get shot in Old Town, retard

>> No.15039488

>>15030708
Pickle clearly smaller than hot dog.

>> No.15039587

>>15030646
No one from Chicago ACTUALLY throws a tantrum about ketchup on a hot dog

The only people who care are suburban kids who say they’re from Chicago but aren’t

>> No.15039681

I dont know but it sounds like they have good taste. ketchup is the shittiest condiment

>> No.15040702

>>15030680
It's not a shit hole and you obviously haven't traveled very much. Chicago is a glistening gem compared to just about every other large US city. The food and service are world class too.

>> No.15040705

>>15032588
It's called taste, faggot. Look it up

>> No.15040762

>>15033165
Why?

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https://youtu.be/tuHKPkPJxhA

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>>15031415
You do realize Chicago is the most segregated US city, right?

>> No.15041521

>>15030646
because they are a bunch of faggots just like anything that comes out of Chicago,

>> No.15041529

>>15030646
its just a meme, walk around chicago and you'll see plenty of hotdog carts that have ketchup

>> No.15042276

>>15030713
I'll kill you.

>> No.15043979

>>15031415
Idiot.

>> No.15043985

>>15031342
Everything was looking real good up until that yellow cheese went on top of it.

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