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Ethiopian coffee brew method edition.

What ya drinking?
Where's it from?
You getting any more?

Previous thread >>14775723

>> No.14801689
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>>14801653
As one of the uncultured masses who enjoys "plain" coffee. I am having a cup of this just now. I brewed it using what you will probably consider a meme coffee pot, the kitchenaid automatic siphon. It makes a decent cup of coffee and I find it amusing.

https://youtu.be/Gs8Ze4g6wec

>> No.14801720

apparently i got through 1kg of coffee beans in 2 & 1/2 weeks
suppose working from home will do that to you

>> No.14801801

why does coffee make my peepee go pee really hard

>> No.14801876

Just made my first espresso I've ever had. Definitely an improvement

>> No.14801897

Just pulled a shot of the Gustavo De Jesus Rivera washed caturra I roasted last thread. Fucking delish. Sweet, sweet blueberry and like, tropical fruits. I'll post a graph of the next one.

>> No.14801918
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>>14801689
So basically a perkulator..?

>> No.14802005
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14802005

>live in the middle of rural nowhere in burgerland
>have heard tales of the complexities and potential of coffee
>have never experience anything more unique than Folgers and Starbucks for myself
How do I get into coffee
Do I need some sort of crazy equipment?

>> No.14802027 [DELETED] 

>>14802005
Good coffee probably won't taste great to you at first, people usually think it tastes too acidic if you're used to starbucks

Get a $120 encore grinder, a $60 electric gooseneck kettle, a v60 pourover cone, a $9 digital scale, and some mail order beans from a reputable vendor

Your water needs to be good quality, if your tap water isn't delicious, buy some cheap bottled water

>> No.14802051

>>14802027
what if i got a water purifier

>> No.14802057 [DELETED] 

>>14802051
Only you can judge. I've been in areas where no purifier could get rid of the nasty taste and everyone just buys bottled.

>> No.14802078

>>14802027
Don't forget the $120 vacuum jar for your beans and the $55 dollar v60 carafe. And then the $455 pourover machine and the $360 electric burr grinder when you inevitably get tired of spending 35 minutes every day grinding coffee beans by hand.

>> No.14802100

>>14801653
This whole time I thought coffee tasted like shit but turns out roasts actually matter and dark roast is just that generic burnt flavor. What the fuck.

>> No.14802112

>>14802100
First time I had some seriously GOOD coffee was when visiting a doctor from work. Completely changed the way I look at the brew.

>> No.14802138 [DELETED] 

>>14802078
Encore is electric. I brew my V60 directly into the mug. And if I'm i too much of a hurry for a pourover I'll just use an aeropress which is even cheaper. But if you enjoy blowing money on gadgets more power to you. I have some hobbies where I'm like that. Coffee gear to me is just a means to an end and that end is good tasting coffee.

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>Coffee gear to me is just a means to an end and that end is good tasting coffee.

>> No.14802159 [DELETED] 

>>14802143
I have a man bun at the moment, and I'm fully dressed

>> No.14802169

>>14802005
Order one of these, a v60 and some paper filters. If you don't have a kettle you feel you can pour slowly from, snag a hario air kettle for like $20 and just boil water on the stove. Def get a scale so you can consistently dose, then you're free to snag whatever beans you want whenever.

https://prima-coffee.com/equipment/timemore/chestnutc2-timem-pp

If you can splurge on a better grinder, do it. Buy once cry once, you'll use it for years. Hoffman has a great video on yt comparing highend hand grinders.

>> No.14802181

>>14802051
Also its like $7 on amazon for an aquarium gh/kh test kit to see where your water is at.

>> No.14802211
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>>14801653
I think we can all agree that Original Nespresso is the patrician's choice.
Most baste coffee product.
Runner up would be instant.
These are the best two methods for our environment.

>> No.14802257

>Kitchenaid blade coffee grinder $40
>braun drip coffee maker $70
This served me well for years as a drip coffee maker and just buying some whole bean coffee to grind up

>> No.14802278

>>14802100
Dark roasts are good, get some taste.

>> No.14802286 [DELETED] 

>>14802278
dark roasts taste good with milk and sugar and they are also a good way to dispose of substandard product

>> No.14803856

>>14802278
>>14802286
Some beans taste pretty good at a vienna roast. I have never had a coffee I liked any darker than that.

>> No.14804099

>>14801653
My mom bought me a $40 drip machine after the $20 drip machine I bought broke. I also buy pre ground coffee and k cups for when I'm feeling extra lazy. I would like better coffee but damn it's expensive. Would using pre ground in a french press or moka pot still be better?

>> No.14804112

>>14801653
ethiopian niggresses are really cute

>> No.14804115

Tried an espresso at my local coffee shop to see if I wanted to move up from pour overs and it tasted like burnt vinegar. There were some nice notes of coffee at the end but the sourness was nearly unpalatable. Is this how it's supposed to taste?

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Honey process ethiopian koke. Fruity, smells like honey smacks right off the roast.

>> No.14804662

>>14804115
Did you try a light roast? Some can have more sour notes, but if it tastes burnt, then the barista fucked it up. Try a darker roast next time (or a different coffee shop) and see if you like it.

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14804708

how is the gaggia classic (pro)? done some research, it seems good, so i might pull the trigger.

>> No.14804770

Anyone else think espresso is the worst coffee preparation? I would rank it on par with instant, but the gearfaggery and autism gives it an even lower score.

>> No.14804835

>>14804770
I'd rank it low for home brewing. I really can't justify the price point for it, unless you're really, really down the rabbit hole or if you can make some money off it.

>> No.14805111

Started grinding my own beans recently and have a few questions.
1.Is 2-4 table spoons of beans per cup correct?It seems like an awful lot.
2.Can i reuse old ground afterwards?I'm using a french press and throwing the ground out is a pain in the ass.

>> No.14805278

>>14805111
Generally, people measure water in terms of weight of coffee to volume of water. It's just a better way to get more consistent coffee from roast to roast.

That being said, generally you don't want to reuse coffee, it's not great. I remember doing an army field ex though and one of the general duties privates got shafted with doing midnight shift with me, which included doing the morning batch of coffee. The kid took out like half of the is grinds, left the old coffee in the percolator, topped it up with water and added a packet of new grinds. I witnessed one of the captain's saying it was the best army coffee he's ever had.

So uhh, it might improve the strength of crappy coffee to reuse some of the is grinds. But that stuff was a pretty black sludge.

>> No.14805330

>>14805278
>I witnessed one of the captain's saying it was the best army coffee he's ever had.
Some people like crap.

>> No.14805335

>>14804770

I found out I could just add 2 tablespoons of good instant coffee to an espresso cup and add hot water little by little and it basically tastes the same to my uncultured palate

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14805355

Do you have to grind the beans when making coffee using the pour-over method, or can you just use regular coffee grounds?

I'm broke and don't want to get a grinder

>> No.14805423 [DELETED] 

>>14805355
if you're too broke for a grinder you're too broke for this hobby, just drink instant and I don't mean this as an insult to instant, there's some perfectly good instant coffee out there

>> No.14805431

>>14805423
It costs like $10 to get a hand grinder, and it costs $5 for a 'good' instant

But the coffee beans are just as expensive so yea its not really a poor mans hobby if you cant afford $10

>> No.14805456 [DELETED] 

>>14805431
>It costs like $10 to get a hand grinder
There are no good hand grinders at that price range. Even the hario grinders that poorfags always recommend are trash. You're better off buying smaller batches of coffee at the store and having them grind it for you.

>> No.14805473

>>14802005

buy a pour over, just ceramic
buy some filters
buy some coffee with buzzwords, go for single origin eventually. blends can be nice, but whatever.
don't drop bank on something that will take up a ton of space or make more coffee than you need right off the bat. save the money for good coffee beans roughly 10-15 dollars a bag (not a pound)
any health benefits that come from coffee come from drinking it black, so try to find coffee that you like to drink black. avoid creamers, they are for the fat and lazy.

>> No.14805478 [DELETED] 

>>14805473
blends are a much more cost effective way to get good coffee as long as the vendor is reputable

>> No.14805483

>>14805456
Depends on how much coffee he drinks. Youre obviously not getting much value with smaller bags and he's poor. If you dont drink much then the grinds run dry and shit.

End of the day if the dude is poor he's gonna have to make some compromises somewhere I guess. But ye i got a cheap hand burr grinder and ive got fucking half boulders and half fine sand

>> No.14805486 [DELETED] 

>>14805483
>Youre obviously not getting much value with smaller bags
Hence hwy I said "store" and not "order online". A lot of 2nd wave shops will sell you by the quarter pound increment and grind to order

>> No.14805490

>>14804770
If it's done well it can be perfect. And it's the best method if you are drinking with milk. I will never get a machine for home though.

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>>14801653
Been drinking up some ""'organic""" Honduras whole bean. Its not bad. Has a bit of a roast to it and is kinda fruity. Currently working on being able to steam up squashes to mimic peaceful cuisines pumpkin spice latte.

>> No.14805544

Any bongs got any recommendations for online stores? My local place is shut down and i can only find mass-producing stuff that comes in huge bags. I don't drink that much so it'd just go to waste.

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Received these two yesterday, and I'm trying to learn how to use them effectively. My first coffee was weak and sour as fuck with a terrible grinding, and the one I'm drinking now have a bit more of taste, but I still need to find the perfect grind adjustment. I've used some Café do Sítio grains, kinda cheap around here, and will use them to learn everything I can before moving to better and more expensive grains.

>> No.14806170

>>14805355
You CAN but that doesn't mean you should. If you can't afford a grinder, that's fine. Get yourself some airtight containers. You can purchase coffee at a specialty coffee shop and ask them to grind it for you. Just make sure that it's air tight and away from sunlight. It's not a perfect solution but it does work.

>> No.14806491

>>14802005
You need to walk before you can run. Start small and build from there. Start to look up if there are any good roasters in your state that mail coffee, then check if they grind it. If they don't you can always order some in and take it to Starbucks and see if they'll grind it for you. If you're friendly and offer to buy something or offer five bucks for the tip jar.
For equipment, a french press and mokka pot have a low barrier to entry and don't have many variables to go wrong. Whilst many have already suggested pour over, it can be tricky to get the hang of. You need to have a good understanding of flow rates and roasts to see good results. So don't immediately pull the trigger on filter coffee.

>> No.14806546

I'm drinking instant. My life is a mess

>> No.14806623

>>14804708
I have it and it works well but it has its tricks. You need to get the OPV mod spring because the pump runs at like 12 bar instead of 9. Also you need how to do thermal surfing to avoid overheated water and if you're steaming milk you need to learn how to exploit the heating cycle to get good steam pressure. Also as in James Hoffman's video an aftermarket basket is reccomended.

>> No.14806633

>>14802005
get the /ctg/-approved budget setup.
>$30 aeropress
>$60-70 timemore chestnut grinder,
>$0 random pot or kettle
>(optional) $10 gram scale
>filtered/bottled water

>> No.14806648

>>14805544
Pact.com use code ctg
Square mile
Hasbean
Yellowbourbon

>> No.14806668

>>14806648
Pactcoffee.com *

>> No.14806768

>>14806633
Better cut that shit out.

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>>14806633
>>14806768
Let's try and get some answers from the thread. It needs cleaning regardless.

Everyone, get the fuck in.
>Which do you prefer to brew daily?
https://www.strawpoll.me/21011139
>Where do you buy your coffee from?
https://www.strawpoll.me/21011163
>Do you grind your coffee yourself?
https://www.strawpoll.me/21011179
>How much if your grinder worth new?
https://www.strawpoll.me/21011190

>> No.14807013 [DELETED] 

>>14807003
no
sage

>> No.14807042

>>14804662
Yeah they only use light roasts. I'll have to give another shop a try sometime because that espresso tasted like hot sauce. Funny thing, I think I ended up buying the same coffee they used for the espresso from them because I've been getting that citrusy sour taste out of my pourover. I can't tell if I'm underextracting or if it's actually the coffee, but if it is the coffee I'm throwing a lot of undeserved shade on them.

>> No.14807091

>>14804708
I've had a good experience with it as an entry level machine, as the other anon says it has it's quirks and you need to spend some time figuring them out. Biggest pet peeve for me is I haven't found a decent method for back to back shots yet (been sticking to 5 minute intervals between), and there isn't much space for a scale/cups between the filter and drip tray, but that's a minor complaint.
Keep in mind you'll also need a good grinder if you don't already have one, I'd recommend the M47p if you can find it in stock anywhere.

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>>14807003
Brewing with aeropress is like saying you know how to tie your shoes, but show up with velcro sketchers. Take the 15 minutes to learn how to v60. Tie your shoes.

This is INCREDIBLY good.

>> No.14807168

>>14807126
>like saying you know how to tie your shoes, but show up with velcro sketchers
so it's incredibly based?
t. sandal-wearing aeropresser who doesn't tie his shoes more than once

>> No.14807347

>>14807168
>t. autistic

>> No.14807381

>>14801689
Shitty brand

>> No.14807385

>>14802005
Just buy better brands

>> No.14807608

>>14807003
based mokapot anon

>> No.14808354

what do you personally look for in "a good coffee"?

in my personal opinion, I think a good coffee leaves my mouth salivating after i've drank it, and there should be no bitter coffee flavor remaining in my mouth. I like my coffee a bit hotter than room temp because I feel like you can taste it better that way.

>> No.14808570

I use a moka pot, lavazza oro coffee from the grocery store, and pour it into a mug with preheated (in the microwave) whole milk and a spoonful of maple syrup mixed in.

On weekends I add a bit of bourbon.

Roast me you co/ck/s.

>> No.14808858

>>14805423
>>14805431
What's up with this shit about coffee being a hobby? Like how cooking your own food is a "hobby". This is some post-industrial hellscape shit right here. I roast the coffee, brew the coffee, drink the coffee; but I do not consider this a hobby. You just make the fucking coffee because it is part of being a human bean.

>> No.14809146

Im gonna pick up some coffee this week. I'm seeing a natural Brazilian with nut and chocolate notes and I'm curious to try it. Aren't natural usually more fruity, or is it because it's brazilian that it's not?

>> No.14809312

>>14809146
Flavor has a lot to do with the cultivar, the regional climate, and the harvest timing, too.

>> No.14809353

>>14801918
No. A siphon pot. It's a modified sort of drip over. A percolate works a bit differently in that it pours the water over and over. A siphon does it once.

>> No.14809359

>>14807381
Good enough for me. I said I was boring didn't I?

>> No.14809402

Just do what I do
>Buy voss carbonated bottled water in bulk for "cheap"
>buy a bunch of the cheapest caffeine pills I can find
>buy l- argenine and a bunch of other workout vitamins
>buy jellow mix
>mix all drys in a box
>pour in voss bottles
Boom, the best bang for your buck energy drinks you can get.
Comes out to like ~1$/bottle if you get everything in bulk. I reuse the bottles too, so the value lats longer.

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First day in the new job. It's so good to be behind a bar again. My milk is a bit fucked. When you don't steam for six months, it's like trying to wank with your other hand

>> No.14810050

>>14809402
Yeah but you're posting in a coffee thread, not an energy drink thread. L2read.

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https://kuissential.com/product/evengrind-coffee-grinder/

Had an anon recommend this grinder on /fit/ the other day, anyone have any experience with it? He said it was a good starting point as someone looking for a relatively inexpensive (it's like $20 on Amazon) entry level grinder.

Plan is to get one of these or whatever a decent rec. is, a v60 (should I get ceramic over plastic? Some people always recommend plastic but that seems retarded to me) and a gooseneck kettle.

>> No.14810206

>>14809312
Ya you're right. I tend to drink a lot of African single origins and maybe the odd Costa Rican so I just don't have much experience with other ones. I know nothing about cultivars but hopefully will start learning

>> No.14810211 [DELETED] 

>>14809146
Brazilian coffees are flavorless. I don't know who's doing marketing for Daterra but they do an amazing job. I assume they take these coffee reviewers out to bang 11/10 brazilian girls (male), record that for blackmail purposes, and then they have an army of agents to go around telling everyone to drink Daterra

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*sips*
Yeah, I'm thinking coffee is solved.

>> No.14810236 [DELETED] 

>>14808858
Cooking goes from utility to hobby once you start getting angry over YouTube celebs, coffee does the same once you start buying shitty grinders that are worse than pre-ground because internet memesters said you NEED to grind your own beans

>> No.14810258

>>14810223
ahahaha good post

>> No.14810268

>>14810066
That's basically a Skerton with elastic bands, get something with a steel burr instead, like a Timemore Slim.

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>>14810236
I grind the beans, but I don't watch youtuber videos about grinding coffee. Where did all these spergleberries come from? Hoping to hear some spargledargle doodlydoo from "hobbyists" ITT. I need some perfect coffee drama in my life today.

>>14810206
I have decided that I know nothing about coffee. Every cup of coffee is a new and magical adventure.

(this is a cute coffee label)

>> No.14810565

>>14808858
Why can't anything you enjoy doing, with a suitable range of choices of approach, be a hobby? People make lawn-care a hobby.

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>>14801689
I try to drink black but got used to it with hot milk; no sugar though.

>> No.14811153

any reason not to just put my dripper straight over my mug?

>> No.14811382
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>>14811153
Dripper filters aren't the same as traditional pour over filters. Kalita, V60 and chemex filters all have different weights and filter different levels of fines, as will your dripper filter.

It's another case of;
>"Just because you can, doesn't mean you should"
If you want to do it, you can, nobody is holding a gun to your head saying no, if you do, post back with your results.

>> No.14811423

>>14810405
It costs ~$100 to start making coffee better than 95% of the shops in the world. When your drinks at the cafe are $5 and you're tipping $3, you break even extremely quick.

>>14810565
Thats a VERY good comparison. I wouldn't call someone a lawn enthusiast because they picked up a $40 craigslist mower instead of paying some 16 year old bozo $25 a week. When that guy goes to repair and modify his mower(new wheels, bushings, bearings, new blade), he's still not doing it as a hobby, he's doing it because it continually saves him money.

>> No.14811428 [DELETED] 

>>14811423
>ordering black coffee at a coffee shop
Doing it wrong. Those places are for espresso, where it would cost thousands of dollars to make decent stuff at home

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>2020
>not having a Loring at home

>> No.14811489

>>14802100
French roast generally tastes burnt to me. Full bodied rich dark roast cups exist, but you're taking a gamble with basic grocery store brands because of their bean quality and production roasting.

>> No.14811503

>>14810268
>Timemore Slim
>$120
I was looking for something more entry level, in other words, cheap. If I were to spend $120 on a grinder, why get a hand grinder over something like the encore? Genuine question

>> No.14811550

>>14811503
>tfw I got Timemore Slim for $83 including shipping

>> No.14811601

>>14811428
Wrong. See

>>14807126

$160 press, $200 grinder.


>>14811503
Manual will last longer and generally your money goes further. No gearing to wear out, no motor to degrade, and baratzas are known for their shitty alignment and plastic construction. Hand grinder you've got a body, a turn shaft, a few bearings, and the rest of the cost goes to burrs.

Watch that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLEBfom0mhM

then

https://youtu.be/dn9OuRl1F3k

The winner of the cheap showdown gets btfo by the slightly more expensive ones. Buy one cry once.

>> No.14811635

>>14811550
where and how, I'll buy it right now if I can still get one sub $90
>>14811601
Thanks.

Even though I'm a coffeetard I've seen a few of this guys videos before and also seen the Knock Aergrind mentioned. Any reason not to spring for that over the Timemore Slim if I'll be spending $120+ anyway?

Video probably answers that ? but I'm at the gym right now, will check it out at home

>> No.14811672

>>14811635
Knocks are handmade by some old scottish dude who refuses to honor his warranty and tries to shift blame for any defects onto the purchaser. His favorite grinder of the more expensive bunch is the m47 at $350, but they've since released cheaper ones at 270 and 200. Ive had the 200 for a little over a year. They're so fucking popular now you can't find them in stock, so if you've got the cash and don't really care about waiting a bit, I can't recommend it any more highly.

>> No.14811682 [DELETED] 

>>14811601
You say "wrong" but then linked a post that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Aeropress is good but it is not espresso, and never will be.

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how much coffee should I put in my 6 cup moka pot?
I heard it doesn't work too well if you don't put enough in there

>> No.14811788

>>14811672
Thanks, will keep it in mind. Appreciate the input on grinders.

>> No.14811834

>>14811682
Thats a pressure/flow graph off a $160 flair, moron.

>Aeropress is good

Go back to lurking, you don't have any actual input to provide.

>> No.14812024

>>14811446
>today I will remind them
>>14811601
>eceleb posting
back to r*ddit, faggot
>>14811682
>spends $360 on a manual lever setup plus all that extra data logging bullshit
>complains about a $30 plastic cylinder
that guy is just a schizo, ignore him.

>> No.14812026

Are those vietnamese coffee makers any good if I don't intend to drink my coffee with sweet condensed milk?

>> No.14812060

>>14811834
>it's not ultra-high end extraction, therefore it's bad
why even post
aeropress is a great entry-level cup of coffee, nothing more, nothing less. It's decently cheap and portable.
It's easier than mastering a v60

>> No.14812106

>>14812024
You have a better compiled source of manual grinders across various price points? Post it.

>spends $360

Its an extra $660. Get your money up.

>>14812060
Why even learn to tie your shoes? Velcro seals them up just fine. Way easier too.

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>>14812106
Why buy cheap shoes when you can just own a pair of Rick Owens, bro?
Why have sandals for the beach when you could just always be wearing combat boots? They're sturdier and last longer.
You can't own multiple pairs of shoes, you can only have ONE!

>> No.14812150

>>14811635
Wait for sale on AliExpress. They have a site-wide sale every couple months.

>> No.14812203

>>14812113
>Velcro is a great entry-level way to secure your shoes. Its easier than mastering the bow knot. Why waste time on anything else?

>You can't own multiple pairs of shoes

You can, but the velcro pair is going to gather dust in the closet. Unless you're autistic/developmentally disabled/crippled and can't tie your shoes. For everyone else, the bow knot is the way to go.

>> No.14812443

>>14811635
If you're batting around $120 the 1Zpresso JX is worth looking into. I have the pro version and am very content with the quality, and the non-pro has the same burrs, just less precise settings.

>> No.14812697

>>14812106
e-celeb posting should be a bannable offense.
you're basically a bugman retard if you post eceleb shit.
in particular, james hoffmann is a has-been shill. his videos are an excuse to put on makeup and promote his brand. he won a contest in 2007 when people were still measuring output volumetrically. nobody should listen to anything he says in 2020.
>>14812203
yes brew methods and shoes are both a matter of taste and means to an end. if you try to extrapolate anything based on that you are just making up fanfic.
also I'm pretty sure your taste in fashion is terrible since you seem so fixated on velcro being for toddlers/retards, so why should anyone care what you think?
>rent free

>> No.14812747

>>14811503
get the timemore chestnut. $65 on amazon right now and I think it uses the same burrs as the slim. it is the cheapest /ctg/-approved grinder.

>> No.14812774

>>14812747
Timemore is not "/ctg/-approved" you retarded shill. It's literally one guy advertising that shit in every fucking thread.

>> No.14812797

>>14811672
>>14812150
>>14812443
>>14812747
>chestnut
>slim
>m47
>m47 cheaper alternative
>1Zpresso JX

Okay you fuckers I've been here literally one day and asked one question and got all these variable recs.

Is this just another one of those autistic generals where we pretend the products matter and the reality is it's all personal preference and nobody could tell the difference between a $600 french double burr mechanical whirlygig grinder or a blade grinder from the dollar store if asked?

Asking before I spend $200 on a can with a blade in it.

>> No.14812801

>>14812774
>I'm pretty sure your taste in fashion is terrible

Projecting. You shop at Kohl's for imitation leather belts.

>>14812774
Samefag. Its approved on every forum but this one because you bitch and try to get people to buy hario minis or encores. Try harder.

>> No.14812809

>>14810702
I used to take sugar, but not any more. In fact coffee with sugar not tastes funny to me.

>> No.14812825

>>14812797
There is absolutely a difference in the particle distribution and range of adjustment the grinder will do. Think of it this way, when you're stir frying, you want all of your proteins a consistent size. If you've got some 50gram cubes and some 250g cubes, theres not a chance they'll cook evenly. If you've got dust AND boulders coming out of your grinder, the dust is going to overextract and the boulders won't extract enough. You tighten down that distribution with a better grinder, you'll end up with a much better cup.

>> No.14812845

>>14812825
That makes sense; but then my question is why not just get a product that pulverizes into the smallest particle size to begin with? Unless that would be the burr grinder, I always assumed the blade would do a better job at that and that a burr grinder would be better for uniform size but at a coarser grind.

Or is there a benefit to having a coarser grind that I'm not aware of?

>> No.14812880

>>14812801
Huh?

>> No.14812904

>>14812801
>If you don't like Timemore then you must be a Hario shill!
Fuck off you disingenuous retard. You try this shit every time that you get called out. Stop shilling your piece of shit fag grinder to impressionable young anons who don't know any better. They need to follow the righteous path of the ACTUAL /ctg/-approved hand grinder, the Kinu series. Or they can skip that step entirely and go straight to a Niche Zero. Those are the only two grinders worth anyone's time. Why would you shill an inferior product when objectively better products exist? Oh yeah, because you get paid to do it. That is of course assuming that you actually get paid and aren't doing it FOR FREE like a good little goy.

>> No.14812925

>>14812801
>quotes the same post twice and calls him a samefag
are t******e shills actually retarded?

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>>14812904
Couldn't be any fucking dumber. I HAVE AN M47P. I WAS THE FIRST ONE ON THIS BOARD TO GET IT. IT WAS OUT OF PRIMAS FIRST BATCH. The original guy who shilled timemore was pinoy and gave it to his family after I convinced him to get a tmore.

>Why would you shill an inferior product when objectively better products exist?

Because I've used both and the tmore is $100 cheaper, in stock, and as far as most people need to go for filter.


>>14812925
The guy sperging out over grinder reviews is the same idiot with an aeropress jammed into his esophagus.

>>14812845
Blade grinders just bounce chunks around randomly. No real consistency to the grind. Burrs fed from a vertical tube? Consistent feed, you control the speed, beans get macerated until they slip out of the gap you set.

>> No.14813067

>>14813063
shilled timemore was pinoy and gave it to his family after I convinced him to get a m47p*.

>> No.14813077

>>14813063
>Blade grinders just bounce chunks around randomly. No real consistency to the grind. Burrs fed from a vertical tube? Consistent feed, you control the speed, beans get macerated until they slip out of the gap you set.
Got it, thanks anon, will browse around a bit until a deal pops up.

>> No.14813163

>>14813063
>I totally actually have an M47P and I was also the first person here to get one btw :)
>I just regularly use an inferior product and also shill it here because it's cheaper
But I'm somehow the dumb one in this interaction, absolutely incredible mental gymnastics on display here

>> No.14813266

>m47
enjoy your fines bro

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>>14813163
When the fuck did I say I regularly used one? If I OWNED a tmore I'd post it, right next to the m47p. Here's my prima receipt cocksucker.

I tell people to buy the flair gauge before shelling out for the SEP too. Wonder fucking why?

>> No.14813332

Ethiopian coffee is good. But its not early 70s type II instant coffee.

>> No.14813359

>>14801801
It's a diuretic

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>>14801653
pic related, no creamer so i used milk

i usually put less than a 'normal' amount of creamer in so its only a lil bit sweet

also with ice because hot coffee is the definition of faggotry

>> No.14813445

>be massive faggot with disposable income
>spend $500 on equipment to process coffee that tastes worst than Maxwell House
>come to /ck/ to impress basement dwellers with tales of my "superior" coffee

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>>14813296
>He doesn't even own and has never even used the shitty grinder that he shills in every thread
How do you manage to make yourself look even more retarded with each successive post, holy fucking shit dude

>> No.14813598

>>14813445
H*bbyists are like this everywhere you go, fueling bourgeois capitalism and destroying the world around them as they decay.

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>>14813445
>spend 1000 bucks on grinder and espresso machine
>wait 30 minutes for machine to warm uo
>put in lots of effort to find the right grind setting for each expensive specialty coffee you buy from obscure roasters
>spend more money modding your espresso machine with pid and sheeit
>all so you can drink two shots of espresso a day

>> No.14813729

>>14812797
Roll a dice on any of those really. I'd personally say the JX because it feels nice to use and grinds fast but all will be more than suitable for v60. Also get a plastic v60.

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>>14813585
>QUIT SHILLING KINU PEOPLE CANT AFFORD THEM

>recommends cheaper alternative

>QUIT SHILLING TMORE BUY KINU

>>14813445
>tastes worst than

>> No.14813768

>>14813762
Who are you quoting?

>> No.14813797

>>14801689
I make my coffee by heating water in a pot, adding coffee grounds, then pouring it all through a paper filter into a cup.

>> No.14814032

>>14813762
Genuine autism

>> No.14814260

>>14812845
There's quite a few unpleasant tastes which can be extracted from coffee that you probably don't want in your cup. Grinding coarser than fine powder lets you avoid those tastes while preserving the flavors you actually want. Most optimal v60 grinds end up somewhere a good bit larger than table salt grains.

>> No.14814268

>>14813797
Makes overbrewed coffee because of the added time it takes to strain through the paper filter. You're basically making French press coffee into a pour over. Make actual cowboy/hobo coffee and embrace the sludge.

>> No.14814278

>>14812845
Flow rate. Finer grounds provide more resistance to the water thanks to their collectively greater surface area. The longer it takes for your coffee to percolate through the grounds, the more extraction takes place, leading to overextracted coffee in the cup.

>> No.14814302

>>14813768
Collection of retards across various /ctg/s over the last year.

>> No.14814335

>>14807003
What kind of person actually buys from retail cafes?

>> No.14814779

>>14809359
You're not boring you just have bad taste. Go over to the tea general, being a fucking pleb seems more your taste.

>> No.14814820

>>14814779
t. minimill owner

>> No.14814846

>buy nice expensive coffee
>work too early to make a v60
>end up hitting up the local coffee shop
>coffee goes stale
>repeat
Feels bad bros. What's the absolute longest you're willing to keep coffee beans? I have a bag that's a month and a half old sitting in a coffee gator tin and I'm unsure what to do with it

>> No.14814924

>>14814846
I have to buy two bags at a time from where I order them and I use them really slowly since I only make coffee once a day and use like 15g so I can easily go 2 months with them in their bags in a vacuum container they don't really go noticeably stale until like 1 month stored that way and they still taste good just not quite as good and there is much less bloom and offgassing when preinfusing

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>>14801653
Flair fags say the flair is finicky and harder to master, but once youre able to control the variables, theyre able to get a better cup of espresso than machines that cost double or even triple the price. Is this just flair owners coping?

>> No.14814935

Why is buying niche hobbyist equipment from small german company feuling capitalism? I thought it was mass buying from megacorps that do so.

>> No.14814949

>>14814932
If you get your technique perfect with a flair then you have a chance of making espresso similar to that of an actual espresso machine. For just ~$500 you can get one of numerous consumer-grade espresso machines that actually work consistently, are capable of mods, and have essential features like milk frothers, cup warmers, automatic preinfusion, temperature control, PID, etc. But the shills here would lead you to believe that you can do just as much as an actual machine with their meme toy.

>> No.14814955

>>14814935
Because that post is retarded garbage bait. The only people that are fueling capitalism are the consoomers who want to pretend to be coffee hobbyists without actually committing much time or effort. These are the people that you see shilling meme devices like the aeropress that are designed specifically to appease midwits who want to feel intelligent and cultured.

>> No.14814976

>>14814949
I heard flow rate is something most machines under 600 neglect but which makes a huge difference in espresso. You can control the flow rate with the flair

>> No.14815068

>>14814949
What machine do you have?

>> No.14815087

Just got a Hive Roaster (https://hiveroaster.com/)) and started roasting my beans for the first time.

So far I've had a blast actually roasting the beans and the flavor is incredible too. Do any roasters in here have any tips, recommendations of words of advice?

>> No.14815197

nth for french piss is ass

>> No.14815369

>>14815087
>Open a window to share the smoke with your neighbors.
>Only roast at 3am to heighten the sense of adventure.
>A box fan will not only help cool the beans, but can be used to blow chaff out the window to celebrate your roast.
>Be careful about those spicy beans that jump right into your shoe.
>Don't tell your all friends you roast coffee if you don't want to be the coffee bitch.

>> No.14815389

>>14815087
Do reddit coffee snobs have a good reason for hating cheap home roasters? They seem like they can do the job, beit with slight imperfections that the average coffee fag wont notice much unless theyre a coffee snob faggot like reddit

>> No.14815409

>>14811503
I got mine for 83 bucks shipped from Aliexpress back in Ferbruary, but they seem to jacked up the prices.
It's still a nice grinder but not really suited for espresso if you want to try that at some point.
The real point isn't the specific mill you get but to avoid ceramic and look for steel burrs.

>> No.14815415

>>14814949
but is it really worth it when getting the brewing chamber to the right temp is such an uphill battle?

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>>14813729
>>14814260
>>14814278
>>14815409
Thanks for the continued info anons. Right now I'm thinking I'll go with whatever the chestnut just due to cost and maybe upgrade in the future if I feel it necessary. Then plastic v60 + kettle.

Any kettle I should look for in particular/avoid? Assuming pretty much any electric kettle with a proper temp adjustment feature is fine.

Also, any nuances with filters that I should be aware of?

>> No.14815464

You can wait with the kettle, try whatever you already have unless you need one anyway.
Most coffee geeks prefer the White Japanese made V60 papers, there's a factory in the Netherlands too and their paper seems to be slower, those have an H at the end of their model number.

>> No.14815473

happy coffee day fellow coffee enthusiasts

>> No.14815552 [DELETED] 

>>14815389
same concept as cheap espresso machines. by the time you're done tinkering and fucking around making it almost not shitty, you wasted far more than you saved for a less good result.

>> No.14815575

bros, Ive been getting into coffee for the last few months. But aside from some very subtle taste notes, most coffees Ive tasted(dark medium to dark roast) taste all in all the same and I feel like I need to add a tea spoon of sugar to counteract the acidity. Should I start going to lighter more finicky roasts to get pronounced flavours or is my palate fucked from being a sugar addict?

>> No.14815601

>>14815575
How'd you brew it?

>> No.14815604 [DELETED] 

>>14815575
>dark medium to dark
that's probably not acidity you're tasting

>> No.14815739

>>14804115
Even the better coffee shops I've been too get espresso wrong half the time.
You gotta find a place that cares.
Last time I had a good espresso, it was velvety and sweet with chocolate notes. Delicious in a true sense, not an "acquired taste".

>> No.14815767

>>14815601
Flair. And if you say Im just doing it wrong or I need better technique, according to my espresso addicted uncle, I make pretty good espresso, better than the stuff he gets from the cafes near his work.

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>>14815604
Most of my roasts are probably nearer to medium since the blended coffee beans Ive been getting for the last few months have Ethiopia, peru and Guatemala as origins. But Im not much of a coffee connoiseur to tell the difference. I havent been able to try out the more expensive single origin stuff because of the lockdown and the super market boutique coffee brands dont tell me the type of roast. What do you reckon?

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>>14815793
label.

>> No.14815828 [DELETED] 

>>14815793
yeah I wouldn't call that dark unless your camera is playing tricks. like the other anon said look at your brewing. sometimes the internet advice on how to brew isn't right, just experiment more with how fast you pour and stuff like that

>> No.14815956

>>14815828
Flair espresso tho.

I do the 30-45 seconds extraction thingy. I bought the commandante on sale with clix and always dialed it in(24 clicks) until I see good flow. I even heat the water chamber twice to make sure its near the optimum temp. I dont know what Im doing wrong?

I keep buying so called "fruit bombs" varieties from Ethiopia yet I only get barely hints of berry and everything else is typical sour espresso. I try to make espresso for the coffee fags in my family so I can get a diffetent opinion and apparently my coffee is "fine". My uncle thinks Im the greatest barista he knows but what does he know, he only drinks espresso from a trucky canteen. Maybe theyre just nice. I need to get a true coffee snob to my house one day to know what Im doing wrong.

>> No.14816012

>>14815956
Do you have good coffee shops around? You should try some fruity espressos for reference.

>> No.14816029

>>14802005
You can get a pour over for pretty cheap online. And you can use whatever kettle. I recommend grinding your own beans because they will last longer in storage. It’s all about the roast and quality. Shop around and if you find someone doing samplers try those first so you don’t get stuck with a shit ton of coffee you don’t like.

>> No.14816067

>fresh grind beans to coarse
>heat water to 200F
>preheat french press
>pour in 30g coffee to 500g water
>start timer and wait 4 minutes
>plunge
>pour
and it tastes...ok. did i fall for a meme?

>> No.14816073

>>14816067
Yes.

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>>14816012
I live in lockdown territory unfortunately(Melbournefag). Itll be another month untill Ill be able to go to a specialty coffee shop in the city

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>>14816171

>> No.14816257
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14816257

Are there any thermoblock bros here? Thinking of getting a Quick Mill 0820

>> No.14816527

i currently use french press but i heard coffee made with v60 tastes better, how much of a chore is it to brew with a v60, compared to french press? also will any jug do?

>> No.14816765

>>14815739
Damn. I'll give them another shot at some point but that sounds really nice. If I could have espresso like you describe I could imagine finding it easy to fork over the money for a good espresso machine.

>> No.14816778

>>14816527
>how much of a chore is it to brew with a v60, compared to french press
grind size matters significantly more because it determines water flow rate
other than that, it's slightly more involved than french press and has a short learning curve, but is pretty easy

>> No.14816833

Here we go bros, it's international coffee day!!!!

>> No.14816863

>>14801653
Is that nigger using an amphora?

>> No.14816883

>>14805355
Tbh just get good preground coffee and a little mr.coffee or something like that. Get a grinder before getting into pour over

>> No.14817022

>>14812026
theyre only good if you want vietnamese coffee

>> No.14817033

>>14815956
3 posts and you haven't once mentioned your dose. Drop it, grind finer.

>> No.14817290

Anyone here go from a Hario Mini Mill to a Commandante or Kinu? Thinking of upgrading because I get an uneven grind for pourover but trying to decide if it's worthwhile

>> No.14817381

>>14817290
Both of those are good and will last you basically your entire life or until you decide to get an electric. Don't listen to the t******e shills here and buy cheap crap. Don't take a half measure and try to compromise, you will regret it. Also don't buy Lido they are shit.

>> No.14817479

Any good pumpkin spice latte recipes lads? Don't feel like giving Starbucks any money this year

>> No.14818133

>>14802005
Roasted whole beans, grinder, french press.

Time & bit of technique.

Miles better than instant without exxpy equpmt.

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14818146

Like your coffee cold and icy?

>> No.14818359

>>14817381
>not directly going to Mahlkonig so that you can directly enter in the distance between burrs in the hundredth of millimeters
>doing half measures like Commandante or Kinu where you have to adjust back and forth and waste beans on test grinds instead of getting the exact fineness from get go with the latest Malkhonig

>> No.14818364

>>14818146
Depends on my mood

>> No.14818408

>>14818359
>The dial has 50 steps per full rotation and actually, each of those steps translates to 1/100th of a millimeter. Kinu is actually one of the few manufacturers that will tell you just how much burr travel there is per click or per rotation on the wheel.

>> No.14818525

>>14818408
>he can only know the delta not the absolute

>> No.14818557

just got a 1zpresso k-plus. it's nice.

>> No.14818589

>>14818359
Directly entering the distance between the burrs in hundredths of millimeters doesn't instantly eliminate the need to do test grinds or to dial in for espresso. If you actually knew anything about coffee then you would understand that every coffee requires a different setting that can only be found through experimentation. But you fell for their marketing. Now tell me, what is the practical difference between adjusting specifically in "hundredths of a millimeter" and in clicks? They are both relative to the coffee that you are using in that instance so I fail to see what your point is. Also you're a faggot.

>> No.14818608

>>14818589
>analogfag cope

>> No.14818644

>>14818608
>Also you're a faggot

I'll second this.

>> No.14819577

Sorry for the lack of detail. Im looking for a coffee machine? I saw in one of these threads a while back. It looked like it was made of copper or bronze and acted kind of like a scale. Best i can tell one side filled up with hot water and once it was full it lifted to force the water through to the otherside.
Sorry if thats a poor description but i obly saw a picture and am assuming thats how it worked.

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>>14819577
Mokapot? Bialetti makes good ones of those.

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>>14819621
nah wasn't a mokapot. more like this.

>> No.14819683

>>14819668
That reminds me of a contraption I saw. It looked like a bed of sand in which coffee was piped up through tubing into little copper vessels. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

>> No.14819696

>>14819668
Could be a balancing siphon?

>> No.14819719

>>14819696
That was it! Thank you. no idea how you understood my drawing but you're spot on. Do they make good coffee? They look super cool imo.

>>14819683
no idea but i hope someone car help you. Sounds interesting.

>> No.14819723

Anyone here home roast? I'm considering giving it a try. I would probably pick up a whirlypop for it instead of using pan method.

>> No.14819746

>>14819719
I've only tried it once in a cafe which's only selling point is European royal aesthetics, and think that it would give similar results as a regular siphon. The coffee could easily taste burnt if not used properly.
It does put on a great show though.

>> No.14819826

>>14819723
Yeah, snag a $20 popper off of sweetmarias if you're in the states. Super easy to mod.

>> No.14819878

>>14802005
It's a meme and not that good but you can get some decent beans and equipment without spending much if you wanna try

>> No.14819889

Thoughts on the Bialetti Brikka? I'm intrigued after seeing videos of it and thinking of getting one.
I googled around and got a lot of mixed responses. Some people said it's a meme, others mentioned it can brew something very close to espresso, but took them effort to consistently get the results they wanted.
Currently I have a no-brand induction stainless moka pot.

>> No.14819920

>>14816067
>Coarse grind
>French press
Yes you fell for it. Grind finer you goober. And use hotter water

>> No.14819924

is dark roast just shit? i've been trying to drink it for 2 weeks and maybe only made one decent cup that had creamy caramel notes. Other than that it's just meh.

>> No.14819927

>>14815793
Darker end of medium. Look at how smooth the beans are. I'd say around 30% development time ratio

>> No.14819931

>>14815575
Yes, dark roasts are dominated by roast flavors, which don't vary between coffees much at all. And darker roasts are bitter. Use lighter coffee, grind finer. You aren't tasting acidity.

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>>14819683
are you thinking of turkish/greek coffee? it's a very very finely ground coffee that is prepared in a special copper pot, the coffee and sugar is added and then boiled sometimes on a bed of hot sand to ensure even heating, although a flame or hot plate works fine, the coffee then forms a very thick sediment at the bottom and it is drunk in small thimble cups

>> No.14820483

>>14820296
Yes, it looked similar to those, but there were definitely tubes or pipes or something under the sand. I'm sure of it. Very cool.

>> No.14820616

Is a gooseneck kettle a requirement for v60?

>> No.14820628

>>14820616
Nah you can use a kettle with a normal spout.

>> No.14820665

>>14820616
It's just easier to control flow rate and the spread of the water

>> No.14820705

>>14820616
Ymmv. Hario has a shitty plastic pouring kettle now if you just want to boil water on your stove and not break the bank.

>> No.14820811

>>14820616
Do not believe the liars. Yes, you need a gooseneck kettle. It is not possible for a human being to accurately pour hot water at a 4" target using any other thing. Do not even try. You will fail.

>> No.14821038

>>14820616
Kinda if you want consistent coffee. Controlling flow rate on a regular spout is really tough and your pouring times will probably vary greatly cup to cup.

>> No.14821318

how does aeropress taste compared to v60? i want to try something new

>> No.14821366

>>14821318
How aeropress tastes is up to you.
There's no "one way" to use it.
The only constant is that it uses a paper filter, unless you use an aftermarket mesh filter instead.

>> No.14821383 [DELETED] 

>>14821318
Aeropress is somewhat more forgiving of a shit grinder and also requires less babysitting (pour, stir, wait, stir, press) so it's easier to get a decent brew, but fundamentally less efficient because immersion so the upper limit of quality is somewhat lower. In practice it's a wash.

>> No.14821387 [DELETED] 

>>14820616
If you don't want to "invest" the chump change in a gooseneck you're better off with an aeropress

>> No.14821410

>See Timemore post about a new grinder about 3 months ago, similar to Chestnut but with the folding handle and better burrs, Chestnut X
>Ask when its coming
>They say its on hold for now
>Be today
>Search out of curiosity
>They've made a kickstarter for it
>It's £200

What the literal fuck guys.

>> No.14821469

>>14821318
get the aeropress for the lifestyle, not the taste, because there is no single "aeropress taste".
>>14821383
>fundamentally less efficient because immersion so the upper limit of quality is somewhat lower
you can't taste extraction efficiency, retard

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>>14821410
They're trying to innovate instead of taking off the shelf parts, seems reasonable to me

>> No.14821496

>>14821486
but I can't afford innovation

>> No.14821509

>>14821496
Their cheap ones are still pretty good for coarser grinds

>> No.14821751

>>14820616
Get a melodrip

>> No.14821820
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14821820

>it turned into a gear fag thread
I dont like it.

>> No.14821899

I need pour-over advice.
I'm currently using a Hario v60 Switch, and I can't for the life of me get my coffee to draw down in a reasonable amount of time.
I'm brewing a lighter roast coffee, using 100° water, and making sure to rinse my filter and all at jazz.
My current method is into my pre-heated cone I put 18g of coffee, and then bloom with the switch closed for 45 seconds with 40g of water. Then I open the switch and slowly pour up to 180g of water by 1:15, then get up to my final amount of 300g by 1:45.
I give it a stir each direction right away, and then when about half the water has drained down I give it a swirl.
I've read that all my water should have drained out by 3:30 but for me the water isn't drained until around 6mins. I'm grinding at a fairly medium grind and the coffee comes out great tasting and well extracted, but i just feel like i'm doing something wrong because i'm not hitting the times everyone says i should be. If i grind course enough for the water to drain out in 3:30 I get massive boulders and the coffee comes out tasting hollow and sour.
Should i worry about this at all?

>> No.14821935

>>14821899
>coffee tastes great
No

>> No.14821945

>>14821935
>>14821899
By no, I mean you shouldn't worry.

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>ordered the Hoffmann cupping kit to do the live tasting on Oct 3
>doesn't look like it's going to arrive before Oct 3

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>>14821469
>get the aeropress for the lifestyle, not the taste

My fucking sides.

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Thinking about roasting some coof specifically for a rub. Thoughts? Experience? Tips?

>> No.14823364

>>14821410
It has much larger burr and micro-adjustment wheel that gives 5 levels of smaller adjustment per each click of the larger wheel making it suitable for dialing in espresso grind. It's not in the same category as the existing Timemore grinder lineup.

>> No.14823593

>>14806623
>>14807091
is the silvia better out of the box? sounds like a lot of stock faults

>> No.14823914

>>14823215
I wouldn't, because more than likely all the good coffee flavors would be lost in the meat and smoke.
What i have done in the past that worked well is to put some coffee in my brine/marinade or to get that instant espresso powder and put it in my rub. that way I get some coffee flavor without using my good beans.

>> No.14824502

>>14802027
>>14802078
I honestly can't tell if this is sarcasm or just American consoomerism. You don't need all this crap to enjoy good coffee. Especially not if you're just getting into coffee. Just get some good beans and enjoy your coffee.

>> No.14824528

>>14823914
I've got some brazilians that I'm not the fondest of. I figured it would be worth wasting 125g to experiment with.

>> No.14824537

>>14824502
How can you enjoy life if you don't buy expensive things to justify the tradeoffs you made to make your life shitty in order to buy expensive things? This is a very dangerous post and I do not condone it. Being happy is a slippery slope. Everyone point and laugh at this madman.

>> No.14824894

>>14824528
ah in that case go ham.
I was assuming you were using your good beans, but if its just beans you need to use, fuckit. give it a shot and report back the results

>> No.14824906

>>14824502
he's just shitposting.

>> No.14825482

How do i make black coffee that isnt acidic? I like the bitterness, its the weird sourness that sucks. Is it the type of beans or the brewing method? I drip brew medium beans.

>> No.14825646

Any recs for a reasonably cheap, reasonably small-ish gooseneck kettle or pouring container for pourover?

>> No.14825699

>>14825646
Air kettle. Like $20.

>> No.14825713

>>14821899
> the coffee comes out great tasting and well extracted
Thats the only measure you should take. My drawdown varies from coffee to coffee as I dial them in.

>> No.14825764

>>14825699
Thanks anon, I didn't even know that existed.

>> No.14825778

>>14825482
darker roasts, finer grinds, 100% arabica

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What's the most not coffee coffee you ever had?

>> No.14826031

Is supermarket coffee that has been roasted months ago really bad or is it just a meme?
Also, why is freshly roasted "specialty" coffee so expensive?

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>>14825897
? Autumn making you dumb ?

>> No.14826170

>>14801689
this thing is terrifying, I'd be afraid it would explode in a cloud of glass and boiling coffee every time I wanted a cup of coffee

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>>14802143
My coffee gear looks cool, and I enjoy the process of making it enough that I make it for other people.

>> No.14826238

>>14804770
>>14805490
>>14804835
Good espresso can be made with the Flair. Espresso for me is just for milk drinks, or espresso tonic. If I just want a nice big mug of coffee, I just use a V60.

>> No.14826265

>>14813722
Coffee in the morning, coffee in the evening, when I have an espresso machine, I can have coffee all the fucking time. I've been trying lower doses, so I don't fuck myself up with all the caffeine.

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With this fucking endless summer, I've been making espresso tonic everyday.

>> No.14826292

>>14805473
>health benefits come from drinking it black
Nothing wrong with a touch of cream or milk for cheap or especially high-acid blends.
Corn syrup solid based """""creamers""""" should be outlawed.

>> No.14826294

>>14826265
When coffee's on a bagel you can eat coffee anytime.

>> No.14826307

>>14826031
Yes and no. I've had plenty if supermarket coffee that was enjoyable. The thing I find is your way better off getting whole bean verses preground. I'm cheap so I just grind my coffee at sprouts. Though I've had preground French coffee which was good. Most of the coffee I try to buy instore is $6 or under. Once you get into $10+ you might as well go to an actual roaster.

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Cappucino please

>> No.14826787

>>14826224
Is that an aftermarket gauge?

>> No.14826867

>>14826787
Yeah. I got cause I wanted to avoid more metal to pre-heat, and it just looks cooler.

>> No.14827226

What does astringency taste like /ctg/? I hear it a lot when people talk about overextracting and I'm afraid I'm overextracting my coffee but I can't tell if what I'm tasting is astringency.

>> No.14827423

I've been having coffee that came from a V60, taste smooth and "creamy(????) in the first 2-3 minutes, but gradually become more acidic as time goes on, although not in a bad way at all. I really enjoy both states.
Is there some kind of food-science thing going on, were some fines in the coffee are gradually settling to the bottom of the cup, thus affecting taste?

>> No.14827435

>>14826170
Nah. It's a vacuum that drives it. The water boils below, pushes the water up into the grounds and all the air in the carafe is replaced by steam. Then when it cools off, the steam "goes away" and contracts to liquid water again, creating a pretty high vacuum. This sucks the coffee into the pot. No chance of explosions.

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does anybody know how I can get an estimate for how many MG of caffeine per cup is in my homemade cold brew?

for reference I use 80G coffee to 1400G of water and I let it brew in the fridge for about 18 hrs

>> No.14827574

>>14827226
it's like a dry, powdery sensation in the mouth that lingers. reminds me of oversteeped tea and some wines.

>> No.14827594

So I want to get into this specialist single origin coffee meme. I checked a local roaster and they are selling these (all medium roast):
>Papa New Guinea - Keto Tapasi
>Colombia - Huila
>Honduras - Organic HG
>Brazil - Serra Negra
>Ethiopia - Guji
>Indonesia - Sumatra
>Guatemala - Waykan
Which one should I get?

>> No.14827607

>>14827423
probably just a temp difference, assuming it's properly extracted. hot coffee tastes more bitter/roasty and as it cools the acidity and sweetness become more prominent.

>> No.14827611

>>14823593
In terms of thermal stability, they both suffer for being single boilers. So both need thermal surfing. The Silvia doesn't need to have its OPV modified though and has more steam power if you're into milk drinks. If you have the monev and the space go for the Silvia. If you have more money, look into heat exchanger machines but you're dropping more then $2k for a setup.

>> No.14827614

>>14827594
ethiopia for the memes
colombia/guatemala/honduras for when you come to your senses
brazil/indonesia/papua new guinea if you actually like shitty coffee

>> No.14827671

>>14827574
Ah so it's less of a taste but more a reaction of the mouth's to the coffee?

>> No.14827700

>>14827671
yeah it's more mouthfeel than taste imo.
kind of like when your skin feels tight from being too dry, except that's what is happening inside your mouth/throat.

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Picked up a Brazilian natural as well that had some roasted peanuts notes, gave those to me dad.

>> No.14827874

Is cold espresso good?

>> No.14828516

>>14827757
How is De Mello? I hear they're great but haven't visited yet.

>> No.14828890

>>14828516
I've only been to the cafe once and it wasn't bad. Thier roasts are pretty top tier in the area. The only other compareble coffee I've had are Sam James and Detour out of burlington.

>> No.14830195

>>14828890
expensive?

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Breville just bought out Baratza.

>> No.14830419

>>14830312
Well it would be hard for the quality of either to go down. Good for them. Now you can get an even worse aligned grinder built into your plastic espresso machine.

>> No.14830476

First time getting specialty coffee with my flair. I always use generic coffee brands but yesterday, I went full Ethiopian highlander and ordered Yirgacheffe and Harrar. Do you guys have tips for the grind and stuff?

>> No.14830572

>>14830476
I'd start out with specialty arabica espresso blends. fruity Ethiopian coffees need finessing and playing around with pressure profiling and pre infusion so you don't get a super acidic espresso.

>> No.14830970

my plastic 02 v60 is bigger than the ceramic 02 v60

>> No.14830974

>>14827614
Why do you think Ethiopian is meme?

>> No.14831109

Odd question guys. I have a foamer and I want to make a decent latte at home without using instant coffee. I have beans and a French press. Should I use this but at a heavily reduced amount to create a mimicked espresso shot for the latte? I was thinking 2g to 30g water but this seems too low. Any suggestions?

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what do you do with your moka? do you make tiny coffee to drink alone, do you mix it with milk, do you add hot water to the shot, do you use big enough of a pot to get a full cup worth of brew?
Personally i drink it with foamed milk from french press and make sort of an "americano" with water for people who come to visit. They tend to like that, but i find the idea of adding water to my shot of moka disgusting for some reason.

>> No.14831237

>>14831109
Uhh i mean sure you can do that, but why the hell would you use 2g of coffee on 30g of water?
30g of brew is about your regular shot of espresso, and for that you either use 7g of coffee (italian version) or 14g+ or whatever the hell americans do. So you want to use that at least for your french press concentrate.

>> No.14831258

>>14831131
I'm drinking mocha right now (real Yemeni mocha). It's very lovely and complex. Most identifiable flavor is pumpkin. I roasted it to a vienna roast, did a pour over with a medium-fine grind, pretty strong. Just one cup. Just for me. Drinking it with a little cream. This is a nice Autumn coffee.

>> No.14831269

>>14831237
Thanks anon, yeah I was being retarded. I tried close to your measurements earlier and it turned out great

>> No.14831275

>normally TEA CHAD
>love the smell of coffee
>hate the taste
So, is it possible to get coffee that tastes good, or do you just suffer until you get used to it?

>> No.14831293

>>14831275
It is possible.
Don't believe numbskulls who act like they're tough for drinking black coffee. You don't need to be "tough" if it's actually brewed right.

>> No.14831313

>>14831131
I add hot water. However much gets me in the range of 60g per Liter

>> No.14831510

>>14830195
About a dollar per 16g of single origin. It's not something I drink on a daily basis but it's worth trying if they have something you like.

>> No.14831632

Oh god bros, It's coffee time.

>> No.14831642

So the correct method to french press is to brew it and then dump it all in a thermal carafe, right?

>>14831275
Like what >>14831293 said; you don't have to drink it black. I like it black, but you're not a superior person for taking it that way. Nothing wrong with milk/cream/sugar so long as it's not in excess.

Black coffee is roasty and delicious with a pleasant after taste. Fucking delicious

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>>14807003
Some interesting numbers here

>> No.14831911

>>14831711
Are Espresso fags here just obnoxious then? I swear to god I assume atlesst third the board was into espresso with how much Espresso fags talk about their machines.

>> No.14831930

>>14831911
Response rate from the thread is only a third, so there could be more. I like to think that the people who hate on home espresso drinkers are the ones who would actually love to brew it at home, but cannot afford a good bar and grinder.

>> No.14832021

>>14831911
I'm the only espressofag who took the time to vote. Most are happily sipping away on their doubles. You'd expect the aeropressers who constantly mouth off to support their method, but looks like its an extremely vocal few. There's also way more than 2 people who roast here...

>> No.14832047

>>14831911
Espresso isn't a daily go-to.
Poll asked how you make your coffee every day.
I'm not making espresso every day.

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>>14832047
>I'm not making espresso every day.

>> No.14832108

JUST BOUGHT AN ESPRESSO MACHINE BOYS

I am very excited

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>>14832108
Post pics. Also, what coffee are you planning on using for it?

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>>14832114
This one right here: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00H1OUSD2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

My buddies grandpa is an espresso pro -- builds and designs machines that he sold to major retailers. He said this one was /kino/. I've been wanting an espresso machine for such a long time since I love a good cappuccino

>Also, what coffee are you planning on using for it?
I'm going to start off with grinding Lavazza beans since I hear they're a great entry-level bean for espressofags

>> No.14832144

>>14832125
Try the Qualita Rossa. It's supposed to be one of the cheap options, but it punched above it's weight, for me. I like it.

>> No.14832413

just made my first aeropress "latte/cap". i used a brazilian natural that was medium roast and it extracted plenty, maybe even slightly too much because i noticed a bit of sourness before adding the milk. i will attempt again with slightly less fine grind but keep everything else the same.

>> No.14832548

>>14832413
based aeropress blogger. recipe? I've never bothered trying to make "espresso" with it.

today I decided to grind much coarser and increase my dose. it pushed the nasty earthy notes in this dark roast test coffee to the background. I think I could go even coarser for darker coffees.
thanks for reading.

>> No.14832593

>>14832548
1:5 for 90 seconds, no bloom, its not espresso but its pretty strong. i guess i could try with moka pot but i prefer filtered.

>> No.14832615

>>14801653
Seeing the pic i want to try Ethiopian coffee in Ethiopia but is it a safe country? can you go there for a holiday?

>> No.14832756

>>14832144
Thank you for the advice fren!

>> No.14832806

>>14830974
they are good but overhyped by 3rd wave noobs who promote underextracted acidic flavors as "specialty coffee".
this is based on what I've read online and drank in cafes.
still a top tier origin overall imo. but as someone who drinks a lot of coffee, I get tired those flavors and prefer simpler coffee from central america as a daily driver.

>> No.14832867

>>14832125
My exes parents had this machine and they used fucking Costco espresso beans.

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>> No.14832954

>>14832806
> 3rd wave noobs who promote underextracted acidic flavors as "specialty coffee".
Literally just extract more, how dumb you have to be to be told what to like when you're brewing at home. Ethiopia is the birthplace of coffee and has the best beans, most don't even know what the fuck theyre growing (out of thousands of wild varietals) just that those varietals taste good. You might get more consistency/proper processing out south/central american coffee (except Brazil) or other Africans but the odd Ethiopian can often just blow them all away by how good the varietal is.

>> No.14832973

>>14830476
Try the harrar first, yirgacheffe is usually tea like and delicate, more acidity too(it'd be better in a v60/press if you're yirgacheffe isnt the sweeter kind). Harrars ive got have been plenty fruity and would be great for espresso if medium roast).

>> No.14832982

>>14832615
Gonna get mugged nigger, pretty sure there is ethnic tension brewing too. Those I've heard who'd done it, hired a guide to get around.

>> No.14832992

>>14832954
>all this cope
looks like you fell for the meme.
sipping on an ethiopian right now btw.

>> No.14833005

>>14832867
DISCUSTAN

>> No.14833006

On occasion I'll get some fresh (within 7 days of opening) roasted coffee that smells of cigarettes.

Does this mean the roaster fucked up, and would you consider that grounds for complaint?

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>>14832992
I had some good costa rican last week. Now I have a kenyan and a guatelaman. I'm not saying for the price ethiopian is the only thing to buy, just that they have some of the best beans.

>> No.14833160

>>14833066
I agree, I think everyone should give african beans a try just because they can be so different from your standard diner coffee. however I still have some fondness for that diner coffee.
I have this other washed ethiopian that got high ratings but just tastes skunky and earthy roasted dark and has a weird tamarind flavor and unpleasant acidity when roasted light. it just tastes like shit to me.

>> No.14833178

>>14833006
sounds like they fucked up unless it's like a dark roasted sumatran coffee or something. if the brews taste like shit too I would complain or stop buying from them.

>> No.14833233

>>14833160
>weird tamarind flavor and unpleasant acidity when roasted light
Maybe you just needed to grind finer till the sweetness balances out the acidity. Some light roasts really need more than a few steps down the grinder to get it right compared to darker roasts.
I didn't drink coffee regularly before last year so I don't have that nostalgia for diner coffee. De gustibus I guess.

>> No.14833393

>>14833233
yeah I've been drinking coffee daily for like 15 years now and I've tried just about everything by now.
some coffees just have a certain taste and there's really not much you can do about it. I bought 5lbs of this coffee and tried everything to make it work for me, grinding fine, grinding coarse, espresso, v60, cold brew, blends, light roast, dark roast, milk drinks, you name it. anyway it's my fault because the tasting notes sounded "interesting".
I started out with shitty diner drip coffee, so my attitude is that you shouldn't have to try too hard to make good coffee. if you can't find any redeeming qualities in the cup, even if it's not perfectly dialed in, then the coffee itself is probably the issue. this is why I don't even waste my time with indonesians anymore.

>> No.14833395

Is aero press espresso any good?
I have been drinking French press style lattes and am getting sick of them a little. I don’t like black coffee much.
Espresso tastes good to me but I don’t want to spend $3 and go to coffee shop.

>> No.14833465

>>14833395
the aeropress doesn't make espresso, the main differences between it and your french press are the form factor and paper filters. save up for a real espresso setup if that's what you want.

>> No.14833510

>>14833465
Ok
I think I’m going to get a v60
I feel like French press coffee is too rich
I want filtered coffee
And I like that it’s ceramic and not goyplastic

>> No.14833551

>>14833510
>And I like that it’s ceramic and not goyplastic
the plastic v60 apparently has the best thermal properties.
I'd still recommend the aeropress for its ease of use and versatility if you can get over the plastic thing. you can try this guy's recipe for fake espresso >>14832593

>> No.14833572

>>14833510
Ceramic glass or copper. Take your pick. Just make sure you're taking the time to preheat.

>> No.14833609

>>14831911
>hating on a coffee-extraction technique
Why?

>> No.14833668

>>14833609
too expensive, too complicated, too hard to dial in, I prefer the results from other coffee extraction techniques

>> No.14834029

>>14827611
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Is there something good and affordable relative to the Silvia that is not in the single boiler class?
Any decent heat exchanger machines to keep an eye out for. Already own a Silvia but never understood what is a performance class above that won't hurt my wallet