Lion's mane mushrooms

[Anonymous No.14753288]

>make lion's mane mushroom tea
>tastes like oyster mushroom broth
>product packaging and articles online say it will give me energy and help me concentrate
>makes me sleepy
>fall asleep

Is this supposed to happen?

[Anonymous No.14753629]

>>14753288
Don't do this, it makes mustard gas

[Anonymous No.14753650]

i bought lions mane capsules and didn't notice any difference from my regular normal
im pretty sure we got memed on op :(

[Anonymous No.14753663]

>>14753288
Hello Solbrah follower

[Anonymous No.14753669]

>>14753629
wtf???

[Anonymous No.14753670]

You've been had, it does nothing.

t. actually read the studies, not just """science journalists""" or health gurus.

[Anonymous No.14754072]

>>14753288
since mushrooms are such high concentration of water I imagine they have very little nutrients and they're more of a psychological kind of thing

[Anonymous No.14754120]

>>14753670

oh wow """studies""" i'm so impressed.

not.

[Anonymous No.14754165]

>>14754072
eat a death cap and report back to us

[Anonymous No.14754211]

>>14754072
humans are mostly made of water
not much there either

[Anonymous No.14754274]

>>14754072
Even excluding all of the non-nutritional chemicals various species of mushroom can produce, you'd still be wrong.

[Anonymous No.14754293]

you actually need to eat a lot of the mushroom for effects, daily. Also it wont give you energy or help you in concentrating, in fact as far as I remember studies show that it will actually make it harder to concentrate. On the other hand if the not so conclusive studies are correct it should help with learning, as in forming new patterns and connections within the brain. Why bother with eating big ammounts of lions mane if you could just eat psylocibine, or ketamine. Both have shown potential of doing the same.

[Anonymous No.14754364]

>>14754293
Just my own experience, but I've found microdosing with psilocybin/psilocybes a few days a week helps me concentrate, memorize things, and come up with creative solutions to nonsense problems... unfortunately now I'm no longer just a marketing guy, but also co-producer for pretty much any audio, voiceover guy, head foley (because I recorded me murdering a watermelon through an overdrive pedal), and I have to sit in on meetings with the visual design crew. I didn't realize that a side effect of mushrooms was the need to wear many hats.

[Anonymous No.14754414]

>>14754364
go away normie

[Anonymous No.14754430]

>>14753288
>>product packaging and articles online say it will give me energy and help me concentrate
Anything that advertises this outside of obvious drugs is usually a combination of bullshit and placebo.
>1% of people in 1% of trial reported being maybe slightly more energetic
>News articles and marketing - CLINICALLY GUARANTEED TO GIVE YOU MORE ENERGY AND FOCUS

[Anonymous No.14754512]

>>14754414
I've been here since here existed.

[Anonymous No.14754645]

>>14754364
I've been microdosing myself for the past six months, has been huge in the process of alleviating my anxiety and depression disorders. Not a magic bullet by any means, and is just supplemental to the actual CBT work I'm doing, but it's definitely increased the efficacy of the exercises I've been trying.

The way I like to explain it is if your mind is a ski slope, skiing down the same paths over and over wears a groove into the snow, and makes you more likely to follow that path. Psilocybin is like a fresh layer of snow, making it easier to wear alternate grooves into the hill rather than following past ones.

Productivity has gone up at work, I enjoy interpersonal interactions quite a bit more, less ambiguous anxiety, and fewer days feeling glum or low-energy. If I microdosed on its own without also working on self growth, I'm not sure I would have seen any improvement, but I think it's been helpful in making me open to discarding past reflexive behaviors and thought patterns. Very possibly a placebo because I'm placing my faith in something outside myself, but results are results

[Anonymous No.14754743]

>>14754645
>CBT
I also enjoy cock and ball torture...
I mean... uh... maybe McKenna was right?

[Anonymous No.14755045]

>>14754743
Cognitive behavioral therapy

[Anonymous No.14755059]

>>14754274
>uv-exposed
>over 100% DV of dat D
Why the fuck aren’t we doing this already

[Anonymous No.14755304]

>>14754120
I'll dumb it down for you, since you're likely retarded.

You cannot eat any amount of lion's mane mushroom to make yourself smarter, regrow neurons, improve your concentration, etc. Trials that show improved growth of dendrites on neurons require isolating millimolar concentrations of one particular chemical present in Lion's mane and growing a pure strain of neuronal cells in media with said chemical to elicit any sort of dendrite expansion or neuronal growth.

Seeing as these chemicals aren't present in anything CLOSE to millimolar concentrations in Lion's Mane mushrooms and would have to first pass through the digestive tract, be absorbed, filtered through the liver, and pass the blood-brain barrier to even reach the cells they purportedly affect, it would be ludicrous to immediately suggest that eating lion's mane or lion's mane supplements is a clinically supported therapy.

But, like I said, you're retarded, and won't understand a quarter of what I typed.

[Anonymous No.14755315]

>>14753650
How long did you take them for? And where were they from? I take two a day and definitely notice a difference

[Anonymous No.14755317]

>>14755315
>>14755304
You notice a placebo.

[Anonymous No.14755323]

>>14755304
Okay post a source on its ineffective qualities

[Anonymous No.14755338]

>>14753288
does anyone else want to rub his hands over that? imagine how soft and fuzzy it must be haha

[Anonymous No.14755352]

>>14755317
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323400#potential-benefits
Since this has links to multiple studies showing the observed benefits in animal studies

[Anonymous No.14755353]

>>14755323

Neurotropic and Trophic Action of Lion's Mane Mushroom Hericium erinaceus (Bull.: Fr.) Pers. (Aphyllophoromycetideae) Extracts on Nerve Cells in Vitro
Moldavan, Mykhaylo. International Journal of Medicinal Mushrooms Volume: 9 Issue 1 (2007) ISSN: 1521-9437 Online ISSN: 1940-4344

Enjoy

[Anonymous No.14755369]

>>14753288
Not everyone is the same. I find it pretty pathetic and funny that a bunch of morons think that everyone is the same so as to cubbyhole everyone into what they have to have to say, like the pathetic cunts that they are.

[Anonymous No.14755377]

>>14755353
What is that supposed to mean? That everyone is supposed to be nigger have behave as such? How wrong you can be.

[Anonymous No.14755389]

>>14755353
>HE-ETH compared to HE-HWA exerted potent neuroprotection and higher NO-suppressing anti-inflammatory activity in HT22 hippocampal neurons and BV2 microglia in vitro. The mechanisms of neuroprotection were through the improvement of antioxidant, mitochondrial function and anti-apoptosis. HE-ETH could be potentially explored as a neuroprotective agent in neuron-glia environment. However, further studies are needed to elucidate the mechanistic pathways involved in the neuroprotection and to study its efficacy in vivo.
In other words, it helps in some ways but they still need more testing? Is that a basic breakdown of the conclusion here?

[Anonymous No.14755395]

>>14753288
only to smooth brained easily influenced faggots like you. do coke or adderall like everyone else you stupid faggot

[Anonymous No.14755399]

>>14755353
I know Russian friends that would gladly transfer this to me in the USA but I don't want to get us nailed by assholes at either border. It's not worth it for simple technology transfer of things that would be fun for both of us.

[Anonymous No.14755400]

>>14755352
>>14755352
>https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/323400#potential-benefits

>Regarding antioxidant

There is no single, universal method capable of providing an accurate, comprehensive picture of antioxidant profile because several mechanisms underlying antioxidant activity have been proposed including termination of free radical mediated chain reaction, hydrogen donation, chelation of catalytic ions, and elimination of peroxides [24]. Thus, a single assay is not sufficient to measure the total antioxidant capacity of the mushrooms

>Radical elimination
As shown in Table 2, the scavenging activity of mushroom extracts towards DPPH free radicals was expressed in terms of IC50. Since a lower IC50 value indicates stronger ability of the extracts to act as DPPH radical scavengers, then it is obvious that the positive controls were excellent DPPH radical scavengers with quercetin exhibited >100-fold higher scavenging activity (IC50 = 0.03 mg/mL) compared to the mushroom extracts (IC50 = 5.28–39.05mg/mL)

They even go on to mention that Pleurotus ostreatus, or Oyster mushroom, eliminates radicals 2-3x more effectively than Lion's Mane. So why would someone choose lion's mane?
Because it's expensive, sounds exotic, and you're a chump.

>Regarding "reducing depression" in mice

This study, again, relies on isolating a single chemical found in Lion's Mane Mushroom, of which the bioavaliability through consumption of mushroom flesh is unknown and the results are far from conclusive.


I'm not here to write you a fucking paper on why you're wrong, but you're being had and the only thing I'm trying to do is save you money.

[Anonymous No.14755403]

>>14755399
... it's not about money, it never was.

[Anonymous No.14755415]

>>14755400
Right im just trying to understand where it's labeled as a useless supplement, especially when the study you posted claimed the positive aspect of the antioxidants present in lions mane from what I could understand

[Anonymous No.14755419]

>>14755400
Perhaps Russians are better at this because they don't have feds coming down on them 24/7 for stupid shit like mushrooms.

[Anonymous No.14755422]

>>14755389
That's what that particular sentence means, yes. Still, that's one of the studies that many of these health gurus cite, the problems of which are outlined here
>>14755304

Reminder that supplements are not regulated by the FDA, are not required to prove their claims, and frequently don't actually claim their product does anything because they can't fucking prove it. End of story.

[Anonymous No.14755433]

>>14755415
nobody is rushing out to sell you oyster mushroom extracts, which are stronger antioxidants. Nor are you jumping at the chance of eating blueberries, which contain much higher levels of antioxidant than either of these mushrooms.

It's a scam. They chose something exotic sounding, found some positive health aspects of it that would be present in almost any food, and ran with it.

[Anonymous No.14755437]

>>14755422
So the source you posted is still somehow invalid? I don't get it dude

[Anonymous No.14755441]

A healthy balanced diet filled with a wide array of fruits, vegetables, and sources of protein and fiber will do more good for you than eating a mushroom pill and continuing to eat like shit.

[Anonymous No.14755447]

>>14755433
Actually they do have oyster mushroom supplements. Lion's mane gained traction from Paul stamets from what I can tell, and he seems pretty well educated on the stuff

[Anonymous No.14755452]

>>14755433
That's very old, same with weed, giving it stupid marketing names. That's gone back to the 1980s for you newbies.

[Anonymous No.14755454]

>>14755441
You're assuming everyone is taking this as a miracle cure. You're also ignoring the proposed benefits from the study you provided. Right now I'll keep taking it with my zinc citrate, vitamin d, and magnesium citrate

[Anonymous No.14755460]

It's all the same weed just with different terms and marketing names for idiots that don't know any better. Give them some time and they'll learn, just like you did.

[Anonymous No.14755465]

>>14755437
I'm not going to explain it for you again. Read the post until you get it.

>>14755447
>Ackshuwally
Of course they do, because they can take oyster mushrooms, which are cheap as shit, powder them, put them into a pill and sell it to you for a higher margin.

>>14755454
EAT YOUR FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, DIPSHIT

[Anonymous No.14755471]

>>14755465
I like muy carrots and spinach

[Anonymous No.14755476]

>>14755465
I do eat fruits and vegetables. That doesn't mean I don't want more of a good thing in my body

[Anonymous No.14755478]

I dont care about the arguments over alleged health benefits. I just think they taste good and have a pleasing texture.

[Anonymous No.14755479]

>>14755465
Why is that people such as you always have something to push? Always, it never fails.

[Anonymous No.14755485]

>>14755478
Apparently you had good parents that thought you to think for yourself instead of dealing with idiots.

[Anonymous No.14755496]

See, what is so weird these days is that people have parents that teach them instead of some government twats to try to override parents and always fail. Always fail miserably fail over parents who actually care about their own children instead of letting some government go it for them.

[Anonymous No.14755506]

>>14755478
Yeah I dig lobsters and hedgehog mushrooms too. Supposedly coral mushrooms are edible too but I just like looking at them

[Anonymous No.14755532]

>>14755506
Sea creatures are quite beautiful to look at. Because they're beautiful doesn't mean we have to kill them.

[Anonymous No.14755539]

It comes down to, just because we can do something doesn't mean that we should do something.

[Anonymous No.14755559]

>>14755415
There are positive benefits to eating natural foods, but they aren’t super pills that make your dick bigger and your brain smarter
Is that simple enough for ya, pal?

[Anonymous No.14755568]

>>14755559
Sounds like chink shit logic, weirdos that want to get multi dicks from sea creatures.

[Anonymous No.14755580]

Leave to fucks that want to weaponize everyone that can come across for they're own benefits and to get various government grants.

[Anonymous No.14755590]

There's also the reasoning and it's valid that if we don't someone else like the chinks will and try to use it against us. That's 100% valid.

[Anonymous No.14755593]

>>14754165
the binding and destruction of protein enzymes is the opposite of nutrition

>>14754211
humans are up to 60% water, mushrooms can be over 90% water

a dehydrated mushroom is very little biomass while a dehydrated human is quite a lot

>>14754274
Apparently mushrooms are capable of creating vitamin D like our skin does if they're exposed to sunlight. It's Surprising but I guess it makes sense.

You could eat a mushroom if you never go outside.

[Anonymous No.14755595]

Chinks have no souls. That's that.

[Anonymous No.14755600]

>>14755593
Didn't you hear from your grandparents that there's no vitamin D like that from being out in the sun? It's true ya know.

[Anonymous No.14755624]

>>14755593
I guess goofy logic like that makes way for amazon and those types to have everything delivered to you.

[Anonymous No.14755640]

>>14755568
It literally is chink logic
>eat this superfood! It’ll do X, Y, AND Z!!!
>we promise, it’s extra better than any other food!
>it’s almost like magic!

[Anonymous No.14755647]

>>14755640
Yeah its pretty sick, like this dr zoo chink bastard.

[Anonymous No.14755664]

>>14755640
They wouldn't have tried it on us if they wouldn't haven't tried it on eurotrash idiots first and been successful at it.

[Anonymous No.14755676]

>>14755559
Lion's mane is a natural food

[Anonymous No.14755683]

>Buy powdered Lion's Mane
>It has a delicious buttery mushroom taste
>Make steak sauces and meat rubs with it
I don't even care if it does anything anymore

[Anonymous No.14755692]

>>14753288
i don't think it does anything
just enjoy the taste

[Anonymous No.14755735]

>>14755676
u r mom was a natual food last night for all for the so called natual negros

[Anonymous No.14755742]

>>14755676
Keep defending them and see what you get

[Anonymous No.14755824]

>>14755742
Idk a health stomach and brain maybe