/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.14642308]

Any other other good Christian centered places that are good to eat?

[Anonymous No.14642322]

>>14642308
>>/b/
you fucking retarded shitposting faggot

[Anonymous No.14642326]

>>14642308
CEO sucks negro feet on live tv

[Anonymous No.14642330]

>>14642308
why are religious people still a thing, southerners are so fucking weird

[Anonymous No.14642544]

>>14642330
>religion is bad
Retard.

[Anonymous No.14642547]

>>14642544
Yes.
Yes that also means mudslimes you stupid christcuck

[Anonymous No.14642548]

>>14642544
Literally anti gay, that's retarded.

[Anonymous No.14642557]

>>14642544
religion is a lie

jesus never existed

>hurr why is lying to brainwashing people into arbitrarily hating whole groups of people bad

I dunno because it is divisive and unfair?

[Anonymous No.14642560]

>>14642308
As a gay man, I have to say that the fall of catholicism and rise of the tranny have been the worst thing to happen to western society since black and female rights.

The standard of fopd in particular has dropped immeasurably... still on topic :)

[Anonymous No.14642572]

>>14642330
>>14642547
>>14642548
>>14642557
Well now I know which board is the most cu/ck/ed

[Anonymous No.14642580]

>>14642572
>>14642572
Says the christcu/ck/

[Anonymous No.14642588]

>>14642544
religion is false regardless of whether it is good

[Anonymous No.14642592]

>>14642580
nothing says brave like buying into a moneymaking scam that requires you to be brainwashed to think a magical jew will save you after you die if you don't fuck other men

[Anonymous No.14642595]

>>14642557

i was like you when i was 17.

the fact that you wish to destroy something that brings so many people joy, purpose, and a sense of belonging/community means that you are an inherently evil and violent person.

i agree, religious people need to mind their own fucking business. you're allowed to swing your arms around like a retard if it's fun for you, but as soon as you strike me, we have a problem.

if only all religions could be like the amish we'd be fine. but you are a sniveling, petulant, narrow-minded child who can't see past the tip of his own nose.

>MY morals are SUPERIOR!
>I am RIGHTEOUS in my convictions!
>if you disagree, YOU are a hateful retard!

seriously bro, grow up. if you can't grow up, kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.14642596]

>>14642557
ok Jesus very likely existed, he just didn't have magic powers and certainly didn't do any of the miracles described in the bible and probably never claimed to actually be magic himself, but he probably was a guy that was killed by the Romans at the very least

[Anonymous No.14642602]

>>14642596
>I'll level with you, Jesus was real, but he wasn't the messiah, he was not divine, and he did not fulfill the prophecies.
Your platitudes will earn you nothing but damnation.

[Anonymous No.14642612]

>>14642596
>>14642602

>arguing about things that can neither be proven nor disproven

welcome to the world's worst thread

[Anonymous No.14642619]

>>14642595
rejecting people lying to try to brainwash you is the opposite of immaturity

if the only way you can socialize and get community is by agreeing to collectively play pretend to exclude unpopular groups from your ranks then that really speaks poorly of you and your values that you are willing to lie to advance your own interests against others with less power

my morals are not superior or righteous, but they aren't based in pretending magical characters give me a right to dehumanize whole groups of people

>>14642596
no he didn't jesus was a super common name in antiquity its like saying a book mentioning the name john proves a particular john was real

its 100% myth

the only sources we have that claim jesus was a real historical figure are handed down solely from christian translations and we don't have any original sources or non-christian derives written works attesting to jesus

its 100% a scam to make money, was from the start and you are weak minded fool if you believe otherwise

[Anonymous No.14642626]

>>14642602
The historical record suggests there probably was a guy named Jesus (well "Jesus" is like 5 translations deep, he certainly wasn't called that specifically), who had some sort of religious cult or study group following him, and was also executed for some sort of criminal act by the Romans. But there is literally zero evidence that the bulk of the bible written generations later by people who weren't there. Then hundreds of years later Roman bureaucrats picked and chose what specific books they liked and which they didn't when compiling what became the bible in what was mainly a political discussion

[Anonymous No.14642630]

>>14642619
most atheist historians recognize that the jesus myths were very likely inspired by a real, specific person

[Anonymous No.14642634]

Imagine basing your decisions about food over culture wars. You're worse that SJWs, kill yourself.

Back to pol and God isn't real.

[Anonymous No.14642636]

>>14642626
Jesus is a super common name from the time period. Common names existing in books ≠ a specific person was definitely real.

>well "Jesus" is like 5 translations deep

those translations come entirely from Christian sources who had every reason to invent his mythology to justify their moneymaking

its literally a scam to make money, nothing more

there's no history, it was a scam from the start

>there is literally zero evidence that the bulk of the bible written generations later by people who weren't there

the fact that it portends the destruction of the second temple which didn't happen until 70CE unless you believe in prophecy....

[Anonymous No.14642644]

>>14642630
most historians come from judeo-christian backgrounds and don't want to rock the boat

religion is a collective lie perpetuated by people like you

[Anonymous No.14642674]

>>14642619

have you ever even been to a church service? it's pretty comfy. why are you so angry toward religious people? i'm 90% sure god doesn't exist and 100% certain all religion is bullshit, but if it gives people a purpose who am i to tell them they're retarded?

life sucks. nobody asked for this. if that is what they take solace in, so be it. why do you think that religious people all conspire to brainwash and dehumanize or think they're better?

one of the main tenets of christianity is humility. there's a lot of good stuff in there; in FACT, our collective values in the west are primarily thanks to judeo-christian ideology.

i've read the bible, it sucks. the jefferson bible is pretty fucking good, though. it's the morality and philosophical parts of the bible with all the magic and bullshit edited out. i'd suggest you read it.

i hate islam and i've read the qur'an. as a person i think it's very important to educate yourself about things you hate, then you can argue against them better but usually you'll develop an understanding that will quell your hatred a bit. for me, this leads to a tolerance but generally not acceptance, which is better than blind hatred.

[Anonymous No.14642683]

>>14642674

to clarify, i still hate islam.. even more after reading it. but at least i'm comfortable in my belief and i can defend it against the kebabs.

[Anonymous No.14642701]

>>14642644
Well what's the truth then?

[Anonymous No.14642708]

>>14642636
>those translations come entirely from Christian
I mean the word "jesus" is an english translation, of a latin translation of a greek translation of a hebrew translation of an aramaic name

[Anonymous No.14642715]

>>14642644
most atheist historians that enter the field wanting to rock the boat conclude that the jesus myths were very likely based on a real person

[Anonymous No.14642718]

>>14642595
I understand that religion does some good for some people sometimes, but it has a net negative effect on society in general by indoctrinating people with a failed map of reality
If it could only be updated from 2000 years ago, it would go a long way toward being a better model for living

[Anonymous No.14642725]

>>14642544

[Anonymous No.14642726]

>>14642644
historians have been “rocking the boat” regarding the historicity of Bible stories since the 19th century, wtf are you talking about

[Anonymous No.14642727]

>>14642674
>have you ever even been to a church service? it's pretty comfy
if you like being extremely bored

[Anonymous No.14642746]

>>14642718

i would advise you be more open minded lest you end up like the people you despise. maybe literally just meet some christian people who aren't obnoxious about it. it's the same thing i say to people who rag on gays or blacks.. i'd wager that most christians who follow the actual tenets and convictions of the religion are better people all around than most atheists. atheists tend to be a miserable lot

>t. miserable atheist who is not a very good person

and remember:

>when you stare into the abyss long enough, the abyss stares back into you

[Anonymous No.14642747]

>>14642644
Part of the problem with Jesus in the historical record is that ecclesiastical authorities worked hard to separate Jesus the man from Jesus the myth
This is why his wife is never mentioned, even though he was married. He is clearly called rabbi, even though at the time it was Jewish law that no unmarried man could be a Rabbi. Look at the bible. There is no mention of Jesus' marital status at all, as if it was expunged. It would have been very strange for him not to be married at all at that time, Rabbi or not

[Anonymous No.14642752]

>>14642727

go to a southern baptist church service. i defy you to leave there without feeling somewhat exuberant.

[Anonymous No.14642757]

>>14642718
“failed” in what way? It held European society together for like 1700 years, which is a pretty impressive achievement

[Anonymous No.14642765]

>>14642752
sorry, I grew up catholic, church can only be described as extremely boring

[Anonymous No.14642766]

>>14642747
>It would have been very strange for him not to be married at all at that time, Rabbi or not
yeah I thought that was the entire point

[Anonymous No.14642769]

>>14642757

and now as we drift further from religion, society is crumbling. i blame the soviets and their ideological subversion; communism cannot exist alongside religion because the state needs to be the highest power in the minds of the people.

if god is revered, the state is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.14642772]

>>14642746
I never said I despised religious people, just that they are operating on a failed map of reality
>when you stare into the abyss long enough, the abyss stares back into you
I prefer a more Jungian view that Nietzsche
Fascination with monsters, begets an understanding of monsters, which leads to survival

[Anonymous No.14642775]

>>14642757
>It held European society together for like 1700 years
1700 fucking terrible years
What does "held society together" even mean. This time period saw a near complete collapse of civilization in Europe and an insane collapse in the economy that took a fucking 1000 years to recover from

[Anonymous No.14642782]

>>14642757
Sorry, the Catholic church kept petty nobles fighting against each other for all that time, while they were molesting children

[Anonymous No.14642785]

>>14642769
Communism is religion, its not opposed to religion, its literally just a set of stories and beliefs that some fucking guy wrote, not based in real things at all

[Anonymous No.14642790]

>>14642769
>and now as we drift further from religion, society is crumbling
No it fucking isn't, the pandemic is making some underlying problems more apparent but we gave up religion a fucking long time ago and have since reached extremely unprecedented peaks

[Anonymous No.14642793]

>>14642766
He could not have been called rabbi if he wasn't married. The wedding at Cana was his wedding. Why do you think he and his mother were ordering the servants around
The Gospel of John is the most accurate of the 4

[Anonymous No.14642799]

>>14642785
This. And now social justice is a religion too

[Anonymous No.14642804]

>>14642785

you're right and wrong. it IS a religion, that's correct. we can see people defending their set of beliefs regarding social justice that are rooted in communism the same way people defend their religious dogma. it's exactly the same.

the major difference is that communism places the state as the alpha and the omega. the problem with this is that the state/government is a human creation, and humans are inherently flawed, thus any ideology they create will be inherently flawed.

god is esoteric so it can't really be quantified. it's an abstract idea so it's more difficult for people to corrupt (i'm arguing on the grounds that god and religion are different; religion being man-made, god being abstract "always has been always will be").

[Anonymous No.14642820]

>>14642308
fpbp
this dogshit thread didn't last 5 replies before it turned into some dogshit /b/ thread
if you're posting in this thread and you're not me or Mr.14642322, just do us a favor and kys

[Anonymous No.14642829]

>>14642790

yeah dude, child drag shows and pedophile acceptance. abortion past the third trimester. substance abuse normalized. people popping out kids without a stable partner, no nuclear family. hedonism and consumption is all that matters. narcissism is rampant.

it's the fall of rome, bud.

[Anonymous No.14642853]

>>14642804
>the major difference is that communism places the state as the alpha and the omega. the problem with this is that the state/government is a human creation, and humans are inherently flawed,
how is this any different than the church?

[Anonymous No.14642859]

>>14642829
>abortion past the third trimester.
Abortion is wholly wrong.

[Anonymous No.14642867]

>>14642829
>pedophile acceptance.
>fall of rome
2000 years ago the Romans were pedophiles. The catholic church came from Rome
1000 years ago the book of Gomorrah is published complaining that priests are pedophiles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber_Gomorrhianus
Now the catholic church is paying for hundreds of lawsuits regarding their pedophilia
That's 2000 years of kid diddling

[Anonymous No.14642869]

>>14642829
wtf are you even talking about?
Do you seriously think society is accepting of pedophiles?
If anything the opposite is true, we are less accepting of it than ever. Democrats recently tried to cancel one of their men for having sex with adult college students as a 30 something. We are literally less accepting of sex with young people than ever before
> hedonism and consumption is all that matters
yeah, god forbid people have nice things

[Anonymous No.14642874]

i see the ironic religious zealots decided to raid

[Anonymous No.14642884]

/pol/ is pure cancer.
Be the chemo by reporting any and all political threads and posts as off topic.

[Anonymous No.14642896]

>>14642884
there is no one whining about jews, so this is hardly a /pol/ thread

[Anonymous No.14642905]

>>14642775
yeah the collapse of the Roman Empire had disastrous consequences that would have taken any society a long time to recover from. Rome itself spent several hundred years in relative economic obscurity before it became the empire it’s famous for being. Ancient Greece spent almost a thousand years as a collection of poor irrelevant city states before it had its renaissance.

Christian Europe did a pretty good job getting on its feet considering the Roman government that preceded it literally disintegrated. There were less than 400 years between the fall of the Western Roman Empire and the Carolingian Renaissance.

What, do you think you could have come up with a system that worked better?

[Anonymous No.14642924]

>>14642905
The dark ages are a myth though

[Anonymous No.14642931]

>>14642905
>Christian Europe did a pretty good job getting on its feet considering the Roman government that preceded it literally disintegrated.
nah, the first 800 years of christian Europe was the slow disintegration in parts and dramatic collapse in other parts of the roman world, Christianity oversaw this, and many historians think likely contributed to it, the Europe barely rebounded at all for a pretty long time, Europe was a backwater for the vast majority of the post roman christian era, and only started becoming economically important as religion waned. The great divergence occurs with the fall of religion and its replacement by the enlightenment: science and capitalism

[Anonymous No.14642934]

>>14642905
>What, do you think you could have come up with a system that worked better?
I think no system at all would have been better

[Anonymous No.14643001]

>>14642308
Church's chicken you dum dum

[Anonymous No.14643014]

>>14642931
> many historians think likely contributed to it
yeah the historians living in your ass

>first 800 years of christian Europe was the slow disintegration in parts and dramatic collapse in other parts of the roman world
if you think that there wasn’t a massive improvement in trade, education, jurisprudence, and governance between 400AD and the late 8th century then I don’t know what to tell you. Things continued to improve after the Carolingian Renaissance and the high Middle Ages had a pretty healthy economy for the pre-Modern world. This was of course followed by an even larger swell of academic achievement and international trade during the 15th century Renaissance.

Medieval Europe wasn’t just a society of peasants poking at dirt on a few belligerent Nobles’ lands. Idk where you’re getting your revisionist history from but your version events simply isn’t how things actually happened.

>>14642934
> I think no system at all would have been better
literally impossible, almost any plan is better than no plan at all

[Anonymous No.14643039]

>>14643014
>almost any plan is better than no plan at all
Christianity isn't a "plan", it was a parasite sucking away at society

[Anonymous No.14643058]

>>14643039
you literally just called it a “system”

[Anonymous No.14643066]

>>14642595

I've lost the will to argue with edgy internet tards like him.

[Anonymous No.14643089]

>>14643058
yeah, a system of taking money from the people and suppressing economic activity

Not a "plan to keep society together" or whatever you were implying

[Anonymous No.14643110]

>>14642308
>gave money to the SPLC terrorist organization
>gave money to the BLM terrorist organization
No thanks, christcucks can dig their own graves without me funding it.

[Anonymous No.14643131]

>>14643089
literally every government “takes money from the people” it’s called taxes and it’s necessary for a government to function

idk what you mean specifically by “suppresses economic activity” but again this in general is something literally every society does. There is no such thing as a 100% free market

[Anonymous No.14643144]

>>14643131
>idk what you mean specifically by “suppresses economic activity”
declaring usury a sin

and the church wasn't a government, it was a parasite on the people aside from the government (it definitely served some governmental functions in some places and times though). But to consider the church to be the government holding Europe together from its gain in popularity to the modern era is a nonsense narrative

[Anonymous No.14643166]

>>14642544
This. Atheists are philosophy-lets and the only time they actually established an atheistic society, they murdered over 100 million people in a couple decades. Fuck atheist triumphalist bullpoop.

[Anonymous No.14643187]

>>14643166
none of this suggests there is a god also wtf is a "philosophy-lets"

[Anonymous No.14643215]

>>14643144
You ignored the taxes question.

>declaring usury a sin
they declared usury a sin to prevent the rich from taking advantage of the poor with high-interest loans, which is a pretty intuitively good idea. they didn’t have access to your macroeconomics textbooks; how could they possibly have known that, somehow, by allowing the rich to be greedy it would over time actually improve the overall economic conditions of society? You can’t possibly blame them for not knowing that

> and the church wasn't a government, it was a parasite on the people aside from the government
I think you are heavily underestimating the amount of infrastructure, jurisprudence, governance, and charity provided by the Church. Hospitals, universities, libraries, and low-income housing were pretty much exclusively the Church’s domain.

Also, you are heavily underestimating the importance of the philosophical paradigm the Church supplied Europe. Every society needs a commonly held set of values, habits, and beliefs to even get off the ground. If you think anything other than a large and complex institution could have possibly been responsible for the Sisyphean task of maintaining such a paradigm then honestly you just have a lot to learn about how belief structures work

[Anonymous No.14643221]

>>14642869
You are a pathetic person.

[Anonymous No.14643231]

>>14643215
>they declared usury a sin to prevent the rich from taking advantage of the poor with high-interest loans
The west deciding that usury was actually ok was one of the single most important things it did. I never said their reasons for calling it a sin weren't well intentioned, but it is a catastrophically bad policy to not allow it

[Anonymous No.14643234]

>>14643215
>You ignored the taxes question.
what question. What does the government collecting taxes have to do with the legitimacy of the church also taking money away from the people on top of that?

[Anonymous No.14643242]

>>14643215
>Hospitals, universities, libraries, and low-income housing were pretty much exclusively the Church’s domain
Most medieval people never experienced any of these things in a lifetime

[Anonymous No.14643255]

>>14643215
>Every society needs a commonly held set of values, habits, and beliefs to even get off the ground
Europe never had this and still doesn't today. During most of the christian era Euroepan life was mostly centered on the nearest township, most people almost never interacted with people from more than a town or two away, language was also much more fractured, the idea of large modern nation states with shared mythology and language and culture was entirely unfamiliar
>philosophical paradigm
What even is this? Europe barely even had anyone at all concerned with philosophy in this era, philosophy only really began becoming influential as christianity waned

[Anonymous No.14643265]

>>14643166
Imagine unironically believing in Jewish fairytales. All Christian holidays are co-opted Pagan holidays for a reason.you wouldn't even be a Christian if it weren't for Constantine I wanting to unite Rome under one religion because there were dozens upon dozens of religions at the time. He didn't even believe in Jehovah, he was just copypasting Elagabalus's religious model of worshiping one deity, Deus Sol Invictus (meaning God The Undefeated Sun), and replaced the deity. Why do you think there is so much imagery of Jesus with a sun and a corona surrounding his head?
The Bible was written a century after Jesus's supposed existence and death, it's a work of fiction mired in allegory that was heavily edited over millenia by the Catholics to remove even more nonsensical, Biblical stories than what is left.

[Anonymous No.14643281]

>>14643265
Moreover, it was slaves and women who were the first Roman Christians as its socialist undertones appeal to the weakest and the most ignorant.