/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.14564161]

Soup time, who’s with me?

[Anonymous No.14564169]

>>14564161
More like poop time for me

[Anonymous No.14564192]

>>14564161
Looks good! I'd add some milk or cream and sub hairy coverts for the celery myself, but still looks tasty to me!

[Anonymous No.14564205]

Soup is a scam. It’s just salty water with all food nutrients leeched out. You’re killing your food when you soup it

[Anonymous No.14564283]

>>14564161
ok so what exactly do you expect to make with the ingredients I see here? I see
- Celery
- Parsley
- Onions (not sure if yellow, sweet, or vidalia)
- A fatty piece of red meat
- 1 Russet, 1 red, and 1 golden potato

I don't know what else you got but it's looking like a sort of ok meat-and-potato type dish?

[Anonymous No.14564292]

>>14564205
>food nutrients leeched out
into the soup which you then drink, you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.14564298]

>>14564205
Aren't the nutrients in the dirty soup water?

[Anonymous No.14564363]

>>14564298
No. They get leeched out, denatured, and boiled away. That’s why soup diets make people sickly

[Anonymous No.14564368]

>>14564363
>>14564205
take your meds

[Anonymous No.14564396]

>>14564368
drink your anti-nutrient water

[Anonymous No.14564541]

Reducing...

[Anonymous No.14564557]

Join the soup jam.

[Anonymous No.14564792]

>>14564161
Fuck yes

[Anonymous No.14564877]

>>14564161
>>14564205
>>14564292
>>14564298
Seriously though, making soup from fresh ingredients is kind of faggy.
Kind of like stock.
I make soup out of leftovers. It is a great way to get the last nutrition out of a food, that's literally what it's for.

Don't tell me you guys go to the store to buy items to make stock out of.

[Anonymous No.14564885]

>>14564363
>>14564368
He's not wrong, that's exactly what soup does.
That's why you make it out of leftovers that don't have any other way to provide nutrition.

[Anonymous No.14565060]

>>14564877
>>14564885
You are... not correct.

[Anonymous No.14565064]

>>14564161
its 110 degrees pharoaheight where i live, why would i want to eat boiling water for dinner?

[Anonymous No.14565220]

>>14565064
That's why bone stock isn't a 'wonder cure'.
It just breaks down collagens and lipids into ever more simple forms. That is nutritious and can be used, but boiling out a potato peel until every chemical is the most common possible in 212F water reduces the nutrition.
It does of course increase the amount of nutrition available from raw meat or vegetables, the same as any other cooking process. But soup has the power to break down already cooked and less-nutritious materials to something you can use.

Using brand-new ingredients in soup and stock is a waste of nutrition and something only wealthy privileged people do.

t. poor white who got a full-ride scholarship out of a trailer park

[Anonymous No.14565292]

>>14565060

>Boiling until tender in a liter of water causes the most antioxidant loss across all vegetables. Peas, cauliflower, and zucchini lose more than 50% of their free radical-scavenging capabilities. Spinach, garlic, broccoli, brussels sprouts, leeks, and green beans fair somewhat better, maintaining 30-50% of their antioxidant capacity. Artichokes, onions, and eggplant fare very well, only losing 5-30% of their antioxidants.

[Anonymous No.14565347]

>>14565292
That's because 'anti-oxidants' are just molecules that 'want' to react.

They will hang out in fresh veggies as part of the growth of the vegetable.

They decay over time.

Heating decreases the time of decay. Chemical reactions occur faster in higher heat states.

When you break down the chain of molecules by increasing the rate of degradation, you make less nutrients available for the body to break down. Skipping the chain as it were.

Old leftovers are already broken down past their optimal nutrient availability.

By cooking a soup, you make elementary molecules available and by adding some ingredients, increase the quality of already leftover foods.

Making soup and stock from fresh store-bought ingredients is a privilege of wealthy people.

[Anonymous No.14565352]

>>14565292
Except it's mostly irrelevant.
Unlike what the veggie faggotrons believe, humans can't properly digest raw vegetables, especially highly fibrous ones. And some raw plants aren't actually very safe to eat raw (rhubarb, potatoes, some beans).
So most of the hypothetical nutrients get shat out the ol' poophole anyway.

[Anonymous No.14565360]

>>14565352
But humans do benefit from highly fibrous raw veggies, i.e. Insoluble Fiber, i.e. Cellulose.

Humans have some of the bacteria present in termintes, present in their guts. These bacteria produce waste that is nutritious for the epithelial cells of the gut lining.

This, however, is a part of diet, not the entire diet. Humans evolved to eat cooked red meat.

Overcooked foods have had their nutrients broken down to Matrix gruel

[Anonymous No.14565381]

>>14565360
You get the same bonuses, plus some extra beneficial bacteria, by occasionally eating those fibrous vegetables (cabbage, carrots, celeriac, cauliflower etc.) in a pickled (brine-fermented, not vinegar) form.
Just don't eat too many too often, since lactic acid can rot your stomach lining and cause gastric cancers (see Koreans and their pickle consumption).

[Anonymous No.14565411]

>>14565381
That is an overemphasis on lactobacillus. A properly nutritious gut load will promote healthy bacteria in balance.

Protozoa and their symbiotic bacteria certainly play a role, but I have not read a description of this in the human gut. My reading is by no means comprehensive and I am not claiming that research doesn't exist.

All I'm saying is that there is an optimal level of cooking and microherd balance in the gut, over-emphasizing even beneficial fauna like Lactobacillus is not perfectly healthy.

Then there is the fact that humans can survive and even thrive on unbalanced conditions.

But soup is for leftovers.

[Anonymous No.14565416]

>>14565381
Also, yes, pickled vegetables and yogurt and other fermented items are good for you. Just that this too can be unbalanced.

If you eat a few pickled things, cooked red meat, and insoluble fiber, you will be healthy. No need to super-load things.

[Anonymous No.14565440]

might be odd but sometimes i'll just eat the salt pork by itself right out of the package

[Anonymous No.14565563]

>>14565440
You’re a sick man.

[Anonymous No.14565652]

>>14565292
Thats only one out of a dozen nutrients.

[Anonymous No.14565660]

>>14565220
that's bullshit.

[Anonymous No.14566226]

No. It is super hot. Maybe in a couple months.