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When is Bon Appétit going to start putting out videos again? It's been almost a month. I miss my comfy food kino.

>> No.14320471

>>14320464
There won't be any new videos.

>> No.14320474

Hopefully never.

>> No.14320491

>>14320464
Why do urbanites love this shit?

>> No.14320499

>>14320491
I'm a suburbanite.

>> No.14320505

>>14320464
can't handle so much diversity in one image

>> No.14320518

hopefully never. go watch rick stein or liziqi/dianxi xiaoge, cowboy kent rollins, julia child, Ina Les Recettes Vintage, maangchi, or ruchkar mejwani on youtube, all these channels have hours of infinitely better content than BA
Fuck BA, fuck sohla, hope she sunk that piece of shit and dies on it

>> No.14320565

>>14320464
It's over. The POCs of BA cannibalized the company they work for and forced the higher ups out of power. Now they have no jobs. They are all probably struggling to find employment now in a city that's still recovering from COVID. They fucked themselves and everyone they work for.

>> No.14320576

>>14320464
It's like watching diversity bingo
Notice the complete lack of Scottish representation.
Disgusting

>> No.14320585

>>14320464
I imagine that either the current most popular hosts are going to be let go, or more likely, their series' will be ended and new ones will start with new black/brown/whatever hosts. It's shit, and I just wanted to see more Brad, but that's what it'll be I'd bet.

>> No.14320601

>>14320464
They even hired the spic janitor lady as a host and still got fucked over alleged "racism". You cannot win with these people, never ever try to appease them to begin with.

>> No.14320616

>>14320464
Where the fuck is Gabriela from?

>> No.14320622

>>14320601
I mean you can follow her career path, she did the same thing as Brad. General assistant for a while, then test kitchen manager (basically stocking and maintaining the test kitchen, not a super high up job).

>>14320616
Argentina.

>> No.14320628

>>14320464
Get real friends

>> No.14320633

>>14320622
She doesn't sound Argentinian at all.

>> No.14320639

>>14320464
Fuck I was hoping you had killed yourself

>> No.14320672

>>14320628
We're posting on /ck/ be reasonable.

>> No.14320682

>>14320633
I only know one Argentinian person off hand and they don't sound terribly different to Gaby.

>> No.14320724

>>14320464
They'll start up again in another month or so and they'll post some disgusting woke trash statement on the channel about how they want to 'do better'. Then they'll air all the brad and claire they had in the can, but both of them will have moved on to their own channels or other jobs at that point. We'll just be left with sohla, priya, and some random niggers making shit vids which will initially get decent views but will fall off a cliff shortly thereafter. BA is done.

>> No.14320982

>>14320724
I can see this, Brad and Claire will likely get scooped by another channel or start their own, with Molly and Chris will probably fuck off with them. Ameil and Alex will fuck off to VICE because that is more their speed, and the rest will just languish as the channel dies since Andy will be the last actual cook in the kitchen.

>> No.14321030

>>14320982
The channel will stay afloat a little longer after they realize that Priya brings in more views as her neckline plunges, but once they start teetering on the edge of health code violations it really is over.

>> No.14321056
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14321056

>w-why did they take away the paid advertisement threads?!

>> No.14321156

Does anyone have the pic of Molly in the water and you can see her tits through her shirt?

>> No.14321288

>>14321156
slam pig hooker is married to a jew banker

>> No.14321384

>>14320724
yeah people don't watch their videos to gain cooking expertise which means any videos sohla makes are going to be way less popular than brad and claires shows because those were like crack for lonely middle aged women who wanted to pretend like they were a part of a "fun" workplace.

>> No.14321435

>>14320464
I warned you about Soyla
You didn't listen

>> No.14322227

I want to sniff Claire's hairy, sweaty and pungent ass so bad guys...

>> No.14322403

>>14322227
why?

>> No.14322413

>>14320464
When you are considered crazy by Kenji Lopez Alt. himself, a SJW, you are the problem.

>> No.14322499

>>14320505
Yeah its likewho the fuck are most of these people? imagine how it would feel to be picked because if your race to fill some bullshit quota instead if being picked via merit, youd feel so shit aboutyourself

>> No.14322503

>>14320464
go to their website, suddenly they have brown people all over it.

>> No.14322504

>>14320505
that's good, cause you won't see half of these people again.

>> No.14322515

>>14322413
pls tell me he has commented on sohla

>> No.14322518

>>14322515
he fired her when she worked for him.

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>> No.14322557

>>14320518
>other things exist so hopefully this thing stops existing
Great logic

>> No.14322576

>>14320724
>and they'll post some disgusting woke trash statement on the channel about how they want to 'do better
THey already did this on their website
Basically directly calls out Brad for being racist because he tried to make Kimchi and apparently didn't do it perfect (even though his job is literally to just fuck around and experiment with fermented foods, like ever video he does he basically just says do what you want, give it a try)
They called out Chris for making gumbo? I didn't even get the point they were trying to make with that one

>> No.14322588

We just need Brad to keep making videos guys, he's the best one

>> No.14322601

>>14322588
He'll continue on. He'll either make his own channel or some other channel will pick him up. I'm hoping Americas Test Kitchen gets him, they already have the 'What's eating Dan' series that I quite enjoy.

>> No.14322605

>>14320464
www.reddit.com

>> No.14322680

>>14322503
It's not new. You can use the Wayback Machine to see that it's been that way since before Sohla ever made those tweets.

>> No.14322682

>>14322576
Brad's not German, either, but he made sauerkraut

>> No.14322685

>>14322588
imagine being famous but living in nyc so you can't afford anything but a shitty appartment in brownsville even though you could live in a house on long island for the same price.

>> No.14322687

>>14322576
>THey already did this on their website
Link? I don't see such a statement.

>> No.14322698

>>14322682
yeah, the whole point of brads show is experimenting with stuff, He isn't presented as some expert on all the stuff he is making, just a guy messing around with interesting stuff. The complaints strongly suggested BA was racist for declaring White people as experts in foreign foods when Brad's show does anything but that

>> No.14322700

>>14322687
https://www.bonappetit.com/story/recipe-audit

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>>14320464
>mfw /ourguy/ Brad can create his own channel and remain successful
>mfw /ourgirl/ Claire can create her own channel and remain successful
>mfw all the niggers riding their coattails will eat dust and go back to being loser diversity hires that nobody gives a fuck about
God bless the free market.

>> No.14322717

quick rundown?

>> No.14322719

>>14322576
when are we going to stop demonizing whites for doing literally anything, holy shit

>> No.14322728

>>14322717
Just some leftists working against their own economic interests, as usual.

>> No.14322729

>>14322717
A south Asian lady told everyone that she wasn't paid by Bon Appetit and they only pay white people
Which was super misleading because she was being paid, just not explicitly being paid extra for video appearance, but keep in mind these were done as part of her normal work activity, its not like she was coming in on weekends or being forced to work overtime for video content, it was just her normal work time
But the facts didn't matter and everyone decided that this meant BA was racist.
The whole implication that there is systemic racism against south asians is absurd to begin with, basically just riding on the coattails of the legitimate problems black people face

>> No.14322732

>>14322728
>"Get woke, go broke."
As they say.

>> No.14322739

>>14322729
black people ARE the problem

>> No.14322741

>>14322700
>diversity in the 90s and early 00s
"We should all experience a variety of cultures and learn from them and encourage others to do the same. Try making food from other cultures to see what's different!"

>"diversity" in 2020
"REEEEEEEE STOP APPROPRIATING MY CULTURE REEEEEEEEEEE WHITE PEOPLE AREN'T ALLOWED TO MAKE COLORED PEOPLE FOOD REEEEEEEEEE"

>> No.14322743

>>14320601
>alleged "racism".

They literally didn't pay the non-white hosts for video appearances, but did pay the white ones.

>> No.14322745

>>14322729
>south Asian lady
Poo in loo, Pajetina, curry muncher, first of her shit, streetshitter, la goblina

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>>14322576
>>14322687
>>14322719

>> No.14322749

>>14322743
Do you actually believe this or are you just baiting?

>> No.14322752

>>14322729
Oh, like the parts in the videos where the host grabs someone off whatever they were doing in the kitchen to have them taste the thing or whatever?

>> No.14322760

>>14322743
Only if you count Persians as white
The only had a very small number of people on video contracts, most of the people white or otherwise were on journalist contracts, not entertainer contracts
Brad and Claire are their most popular people, of course they get paid the most, to suggest BA picked them to pay more because they are white is absurd (now to argue that people like white people more and therefore they are more popular, maybe there is something there but that isn't BA's responsibility)

>> No.14322764

>>14322760
Those two weren't even employees at that point, just contractors relying more on sponsorships than anything some shitty magazine could pay them.

>> No.14322765

>>14322752
Yeah, BA is pretty new to video, there are two different divisions of the company, one that runs BA in general, but Conde Nast which owns them has a separate "Entertainment" division which employs the people that have their own shows, these are much more lucrative contracts, none of them were hired directly here, all of them on these contracts built up their profile by making successful videos that people liked and were then offered promotions to this role

>> No.14322770

>>14322743
>They literally didn't pay the non-white hosts for video appearances
We've been over this so many times. The only people who get paid extra for video appearances are people who have their own show, NOBODY gets paid extra to appear in the "standard" BA videos, whether white or otherwise. And by the way, both Andy and Carla have their own shows and get paid for them and neither of them are white, nor is Claire.

>> No.14322779

Does anyone really care about this? I mean, really? I don't give a shit about any of these people, or this magazine. It's a food magazine, right? The only thing worthwhile about it is the funny shit people say about it here. Comments like >>14322227 are better than anything they've done.

>> No.14322789

>>14322779
I want more brad videos

>> No.14322794

>>14322789
Brad posters don't say funny shit.

>> No.14322797

>>14322779
No one cares about the print magazine, its all about the videos. The brad ones are great, Claire is hot in an attainable sort of way and her videos aren't bad. The rest make some pretty good videos too, and their recipes are well formatted for the internet. 90% of online food stuff has paragraphs and paragraphs of boring content drowning out the recipe and BA doesn't do that which is nice

>> No.14322811

>>14322797
>Claire is hot
lol

>> No.14322832

>>14322811
I mean if i was like a 16 year old I wouldn't think so, but for Millennials she is pretty hot in a sort of attainable way. Like obviously not a 10/10, but she is cute but not so hot that she seems unapproachable, make her way more relatable and also makes her seem smarter than 10/10 younger women

>> No.14322847

>>14320518
>Rick Stein
>Kent Rollins
b&r

>> No.14322851

>>14322832
Her body is actually disgusting.

>> No.14322852

>>14322779
I cared in the sense that I liked the content. Pretty much all of their cooking or experimentation videos were good. The gay ones like when carla would go back to back with some retard celebrity sucked ass, but the regular videos were good. Even the ones with Sohla or Priya were good because it was interesting to see the recipes or the funny editing they did or what have you.

but then they all chimped out about racism bullshit and destroyed the brand identity for no reason. I dont plan to watch any more of their videos because they're pretty much guaranteed to be trashy diversity signaling trash with the cooks being less enthusiastic or interesting as the previous ones. Their videos used to get millions and will probably more than likely get less than a couple hundred thousand any more which is really bad for them. Like that one african girl they put in a video, it got like 200k views or less because the food was shit and she sucked ass too and no one wants to watch it because it sucks ass compared their good shit. No one wants to watch it just because it has a black person in it.

They killed it for no reason. If they keep their content interesting and fun, like Brad's videos or Claire's, than I'll probably watch them. But ultimately I hope the good people go on to make their own channels or even team up together to make one. fuck BA

>> No.14322853

>>14322851
have sex

>> No.14322860

everyone sucking brad and claires dick but no love for my nigger chris? fuck you all

>> No.14322864

>>14320464
It's over m8.

>> No.14322865

>>14322832
Yeah, I'm not really feeling your feelings, man. Tell me about how you imagine the smells and whatnot. That's what brings it home.

>> No.14322881

>>14322748
Asian Americans are the wokest of the woke. First generation kids are desperate to cling to their chinese/korean/vietnamese etc identity while their parents are usually chill about "cultural appropriation".
https://youtu.be/Amy3fXesfF4
This vid is a perfect example. The korean americans are hypercritical of Brad, while the older women offer some light criticism about technique but really dont care that a white guy is making kimchi, because they arent insecure about their korean identity.

>> No.14322912

>>14322853
I have, and with a woman of her body type once. Never again.

>> No.14322915

>>14322881
>Asian Americans are the wokest of the woke.

Spoiled asian girls are ultra "woke" because they grew up as self centered princesses and like the attention. Most of us asian males are pretty conservative by nature. And we're definitely not on the side of the niggers.

>> No.14322920

>>14322852
>used to get millions and will probably more than likely get less than a couple hundred thousand any more
you underestimate how few people actually pay attention to twitter controversy, honestly I would guess a majority of people who watch these do not know what has been going on

>> No.14322933

>>14322860
Chris is good, his recipe videos are good, his "figuring out how to make famous people's recipes blindfolded" bit is just ok though, wish he had a better format

>> No.14322934

>>14322832
>but for Millennials she is pretty hot
Jesus christ we're finished

>> No.14322946

>>14322915
>Most of us asian males are pretty conservative by nature. And we're definitely not on the side of the niggers.

Yeah, I wonder why? A black kid with C average grades and shit test scores can get into an Ivy league college while Asian kids with 4.6 GPAs and near perfect SATs get rejected because you're not "diverse enough", as deemed by racist white liberals.

>> No.14322953

>>14322934
when you see all the women your age start to look like that you get used to it
Obviously when you are in high school most women are super skinny but that ends pretty quickly in the 20s

>> No.14322959

>>14322881
>they arent insecure about their korean identity.
It's actually encapsulated perfectly in the second girl's reaction when her mom says she's never really made kimchi and the reaction is, "OH, haha OKAY haha WOW! OF COURSE I've made kimchi mom, WITH YOU! haha WOW haha I can't believe you'd say that!!!" and then her mom is just like, "It's normal for the parents to make kimchi and the kids not to do it until they have their own family." The daughter is so extremely defensive about it but the mom is chill.

>> No.14322962

>>14322881
His kimchi is clearly not the best, but you get the idea.

Also, a while ago people were complaining that cooking shows focused on Western foods, and now that they don't, people are complaining about that.

Can't win.

>> No.14322967

>>14322946
Fuck off chink. You jus mad cuz niggers get free college degrees for doing nothing.

>> No.14322990

>>14322920
I can say with positive certainty that their videos will get less views over all and will eventually get shit canned and it will die. Sohla going full raging chimp mode over a guy dressing a certain (normal) way over 10yr ago was peak insanity. It does suck they were being paid as well or correctly but they should have and easily could have renegotiated their pay. But nah, gotta demonize everyone because they did one bad thing one time; I can bet these fuckers have done shit just as bad or worse that they wouldnt want to come to light but back stab others so easily its nuts.

>> No.14323002

Why does Sohla try to culturally appropriate white and Chinese cuisine?

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>>14320518
>rick stein
superb taste

>> No.14323013

>>14322748
>Soleil Ho

Oh, the bitch that goes around calling herself queer while married to a guy. Also, gave Chez Panisse a bad review.

>> No.14323093

>>14322915
Maybe they need to be one up on things all the time. So this results in negative evaluations if you do not cook something from their culture, as well as when you do.

>> No.14323102

>>14322959
Also the first pair where her mom was describing her childhood and started tearing up, the daughter's like "Oh yeah, me too!" even though her eyes are obviously completely dry and she has none of those memories. Like she's trying to just score enlightened immigrant points or some shit.

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>>14322959
>"OH, haha OKAY haha WOW! OF COURSE I've made kimchi mom, WITH YOU! haha WOW haha I can't believe you'd say that!!!"

>> No.14323117

>>14322933
>his "figuring out how to make famous people's recipes blindfolded" bit is just ok though
Yeah they really overblow that whole "supertaster" angle and it's stupid. He's not a supertaster, he's just mildly autistic and apparently everyone else in the test kitchen has broken tastebuds so they think he's some kind of tasting god when he's just not.

>> No.14323120

>>14322860
Christ doesn't like peanut butter and liver.

D
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>>14320464
>youtube

>> No.14323124

>>14323120
>Christ doesn't like peanut butter and liver.
It does sound like a sinful combination only the devil would support.

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>>14322959

>> No.14323180

>>14323150
Yup, exactly. "Mom, how dare you spoil my Korean cred on the internet!!!"

>> No.14323204

>>14323150
Anyone else get frustrated by these people that only use their heritage to weaponize in arguements? I've cooked more asian food than most of my asian friends and try more variety of it than them.

>> No.14323231

>>14322881
I don't get it. What's wrong with a white man making kimchi? Are people not allowed to eat or make things that aren't from their home countries or culture?
Like what the fuck is the problem, seriously?

>> No.14323248

>>14323231
They're immersed in a culture that's dripping with critical race theory (CRT) without them even realizing it.

>> No.14323253

I love Delany's videos, but I won't watch a single new video from BA anymore. Zilch.

>> No.14323260

>>14323248
No, making kimchee, or any other condiment from another culture, doesn't make you immersed in an adopted culture. It's just food, man.

>> No.14323262

>>14323260
I know. You're missing the point, my dude. Look it up.

>> No.14323266

>>14323231
Cooking outside your lane is now cultural appropriation, essentially. BA’s “diversity researcher” put out an article ripping on the white cooks for doing so. It’s especially bad if they don’t respect the traditional methods.

Meanwhile, the queen of this whole shitshow, Sohla, mutilated Carbonara and made it a dessert. But that’s fine.

>> No.14323270

>>14323231
Everything is offensive nowadays

>> No.14323291

>>14323266
Yes, but Italians were clearly never oppressed, nor do they have culture that's basically not white, anyway. It's the structures of power and oppression, man. Non-BIPOCs are the universal tormentor that deny the humanity of other races (which is totally not racist).

>> No.14323295

Who fucking cares. Honestly when I read that Sohla bitch calling for the editors resignation because he dressed like a rapper at a Halloween party or something I felt like it had to be some Onion style satire or the beginning of a true dystopian nightmare. Who does this bitch think she is? Implying pay inequality when the simple fact is people who host their own shows make extra and people who dont, dont. Completely fair. So done with this channel.

>> No.14323298

GB2ReDDIT u FUCKIN VILLAGER

>> No.14323307

>>14323291
lol for a long time Romans considered everyone outside of Greece and the Italian peninsula to be “barbarians” — so I think all people of Spanish, French, English, and Nordish descent were also oppressed in their history.

>> No.14323317

hunzy was fired so there's no point even watching it's alive anymore

>> No.14323333

>>14322770
Carla seems to think of herself as white if her self-flagellating posts on instagram are anything to go by

>> No.14323350

>>14323307
I was going to reply in another way, but I don't have the heart to do so.

>> No.14323362

>>14320585
>Brad
I think his best move would be to join the fat tattooed guy and do road trip videos and maybe create a BA 2.0 with Babish and Cwispy guy

>> No.14323370

fuck it. I hope they make their own show
>>14322881
How the fuck did Brad get that old without knowing how to say "vietnamese". Jesus christ Brad.

>> No.14323374

>>14323291
>white = cannot have ever been oppressed
What is wrong with you Americans?
Historically most of the slaves in the world were from eastern Europe rather than Africa.
You look at slaves per capita and pretty much every e-european country btfo all african nations up until a few hundred years ago.
And I sure can't think of any place whiter than eastern europe.

>> No.14323395

>>14323231
It was obvious Brad didn't really give a shit about doing it properly, it's so bad that experienced cooks of the dish can watch a short video and immediately know it's going to suck and they just had to include the part about him not being able to pronounce an asian countries name.

>> No.14323397

>>14323374
Ah, but now you'd have to disambiguate between different types of slavery. There's chattel slavery, serfom, etc. What if I told you I wasn't American? Would an American know about the fact that South American chattel slavery was at a completely different level compared to what took place in what came to be and was the United States? What if I told you I was just being a dick but in reality also well-versed in woke delusions?

>> No.14323404

>>14323362
I would not give a fuck if every other person in BA goes destitue if we get a Brad + Matty travel show

>> No.14323412

>>14323374
>Irish heritage
>great-grandparents and grandparents were denied work on the basis of being Irish
>called slurs like "potato nigger"
>personally grew up with red hair and fair complexion
>constantly bullied for being ginger, pale, ghostly, etc
An then SJW types claim that I have never known what it's like to be judged by my appearance, nor has anyone in my family, and by being white I should feel guilt over slavery even though my family wasn't in the country until after slavery was abolished. All because my skin is white. Oppression, racism, and bullying just don't fucking matter if you're not brown, apparently, and they don't see the irony.

>> No.14323422

>>14323412
You know what they called Italians back in the day? The white n-word.

>> No.14323423

>>14321156
It was from the makes perfect thanksgiving episode

The original upload was uncensored

>> No.14323430

Get cucked you angry white people

>> No.14323445

>>14323422
Yup, there's plenty of oppression and racism that's gone around toward ostensibly white people in America, even as recently as in the last couple generations, but SJWs just refuse to acknowledge it and lump all "white people" into one big category of people who "deserve" social retribution.

>> No.14323448

>>14323430
I'll have you know I have zero interest in identifying through my skin colour. Best people didn't encourage it in others, either. This woke stuff is awfully regressive compared to the civil right movement. You set a table with good food and drink to share with others and your skin colour should be the last thing on people's mind. It's just fucking sad things have gone this way.

>> No.14323457

>>14323445
It's not right. To anyone. Black Americans who have a shared heritage of slavery aren't a part of some African race determined by melanin, either. They're an ethnic group with a shared history.

>> No.14323517

>>14323448
Anon...this is the first intelligent post I've read on 4chan in a fucking long time. People like you give me hope.

>> No.14323520

>>14322745
Egyptian but same shit I guess.

>> No.14323541

>>14322946
>>14322967
black kids with C average grades don't get into ivy league schools.

>> No.14323551

>>14323541
true, they get a grades for rap songs they made for class and receive a scholarship based on that.

>> No.14323553

>>14323448
Shame that's what people have been brainwashed to do for the past couple of generations. How humanity will get out of this without a war is worth a lifetime supply of Nobel Prizes.

>> No.14323568

>>14323553
Nobel prizes are woke now, too

>> No.14323582

>>14323553
yup, I still have faith in humanity because I know most people don't care about skin color or race or whatever.

>> No.14323619

>>14323551
no they don't

students earn A grades if they successfully meet the learning targets, correctly following instructions, and showing they have mastered the academic concepts.

>> No.14323637

>>14320464
Brad and Chris had the best videos and personalities on the channel and are some of the very few people who are handling the situation appropriately. I doubt most of their viewers care about the woke bullshit seeing as they gained back almost all the subscribers they lost from the ordeal. Commenters are a vocal minority and I doubt many of them were watching their videos in the first place.

>> No.14323657

>>14323150
I hate that fucking shaved haircut so much.

>> No.14323685

>>14322729
That's what I thought. An opportunistic money hungry bitch ruined BA

>> No.14323697

>>14323685
it seems like she thinks she is doing the right thing, she is just delusional. She genuinely believes they are paying white people more because they are white but its just another manifestation of social leftists not understanding math and probability

What these people do is essentially getting mad at someone who gets 2 heads flipping a coin 3 times for being biased

>> No.14323722

>>14323619
fuck off

>> No.14323747

>>14323697
And now everyone in BA has to either apologise and refuse being in videos until "justice is served" or.....be judged by a bunch of immature idiots online for receiving "better" treatment than people of colour at BA. HOW ABOUT THINKING OF QUALIFICATIONS AND PERSONALITIES...Boohoo the whites at BA are more funny and relatable than me!

>> No.14323758

>>14323697
I am not sure how you can reason with yourself that it is better to get the whole platform that you and your colleagues work on demonetized instead of using your newly found popularity on said channel to negotiate a better contract based on video appearances.
Maybe I don't see the whole picture but is there anyone that benefits from this, especially during the corona time where people could need a steady source of income without getting sick, especially in New York? I don't see how working from home, making easy video's that take you about 3 hours tops to make, whilst simultaneously making food you can eat yourself can be such an unfair thing to do that you rally to cancel the whole company.

>> No.14323772

>>14323758
>I am not sure how you can reason with yourself that it is better to get the whole platform that you and your colleagues work on demonetized instead of using your newly found popularity on said channel to negotiate a better contract based on video appearances.
honestly, she probably just didn't think it through and everything got out of hand but she needs to go with it now

>> No.14323787

>>14323697
>it seems like she thinks she is doing the right thing, she is just delusional.
ding ding ding

both her failed diner and stint at Serious Eats ended with her crying racism.

>> No.14323794

>>14322719
Never. Fuck you.

>> No.14323803

>>14323772
From what I understand, she was super pissed that her coworkers didn't all immediately rally behind her during the zoom call where she demanded that Rapoport resign. I'm assuming that's when she went forward with a burn it all down attitude.

She's been sniping at others at BA since. Even people like Molly who have completely fallen in line with her aren't immune.

>> No.14323805

>>14323448
just because you ignore race doesn't mean racism magically stops existing elsewhere
>>14323517
it's not intelligent at all, it's just the mentality of "ignore the injustice, it will go away"

>> No.14323811

>>14323787
Do you have a source where one can read about her failed attempt at having a restaurant?

>> No.14323813

>>14323697
>its just another manifestation of social leftists not understanding math and probability
you don't understand math and probability and statistics and scientific studies and so on

>> No.14323827

>>14323813
how so?

>> No.14323829

>>14323805
the fuck are you talking about ? He's basically saying that he doesn't care bout skin color because it just doesn't matter, how is that not intelligent ?
also
>just because you ignore race doesn't mean racism magically stops existing elsewhere
Who the fuck said it'll stop racism everywhere ? why do you keep putting words in the mouth of people ? BS artist.

>> No.14323835

>>14323827
You are not a statistician/probabilist. Simple as that.

>> No.14323836

>>14322729
>the legitimate problems black people face

>> No.14323862

>>14323835
Are you implying that only professionals can read and understand graphs even though they are made to showcase complex data in a simple form?

>> No.14323871

>>14323835
you don't need be a professional statistician to understand probability, especially when compared to these people who are genuinely trying to argue that south asians (the highest paid ethnic group in America) are being subjugated because Brad and Claire make more money than Sohla.
These is no systemic racism in the us against these people, there is no evidence of it at all, literally just riding the wave of support for black people and taking advantage of it

But I at least majored in STEM, i took statistics and several semesters of calculus in college, learned how to design and interpret scientific population data in many of my classes. Meanwhile this is a movement created by armchair sociologists, people who never learned beyond high school algebra let alone taken a stats class

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>>14320464
>YEAH I WIPE MY ASS WITH MY RIGHTD HAND, THAT'S CULTURE YOU WHITE RACIST SCUM NOW PAY ME MORE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>> No.14323882

>>14323811
>https://www.gq.com/story/what-happens-when-a-brown-chef-cooks-white-food
The place was called Hail Mary, you can find some other articles. It was a overpriced 'fancy' diner that did 'quirky' shit like leave the foot attached to fried chicken and shit.

>> No.14323890

>>14320464
are the black ppo photoshopped o look blacker?

>> No.14323891
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>>14322729
They were renegotiating their contracts re: video compensation since last year. It was agreed that they would get paid for the videos they appeared in. She, Christina, Gaby, and some others were not paid. Andy only started getting paid this year. She said she would not appear in anymore videos until the discrepancy was settled with all unpaid staff and Molly and everyone else followed. This was after that photo of the EIC cosplaying a Puerto Rican that he liked to keep at his desk came to light. An article came out where it was revealed that his former assistant would do things outside her job like take stuff to his kids or clean his golf clubs and was still refused a bonus. Then photographers and writer came out with stories about entire articles and features that would be made but never printed when they weren't about whites. There is a spreadsheet with salaries going around. Non-whites get paid less and are promoted less. Black fieldworkers not being credited for their articles. Conde Naste has hired an anti-union firm to investigate. Hunzi has been "suspended" for reasons unknown and definitely not about him speaking out against the company. Everyone here will die from licking Anna Wintour's feet so much

>> No.14323896

>>14323890
If anything they're all lightened.

>> No.14323902

>>14323829
>Skin colour just doesn't matter

imagine believing this

>> No.14323903

>>14323896
its almost like they went we need everything to look shinny and then they realized oh fuck and tried to one it down on he black people ut failed

>> No.14323905

>>14323891
>it was revealed that his former assistant would do things outside her job like take stuff to his kids or clean his golf clubs
I'm not in a line of work where high end people get assistants but isn't this exactly what assistants do?

>> No.14323910

>>14323891
>and was still refused a bonus
why would she be entitled to a bonus again?

>> No.14323911

>>14323905
That is what personal maids do

>> No.14323912

>>14323903
There is only one black person in that photo.

>> No.14323914

>>14323891
>Conde Naste has hired an anti-union firm to investigate
If the police union has taught us anything in these recent weeks it is that unions only protect racism and bad employees, and hurt the good ones, they should be happy for this

>> No.14323916

>>14322719
It doesn't look like this train has brakes so if you are white the next 15 years or so is going to be an interesting time.

>> No.14323919

>>14323891
>Hunzi has been "suspended" for reasons unknown and definitely not about him speaking out against the company.
what is this based on? He has been posting pretty wild and delusional stuff on twitter but I haven't looked in a while

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>>14320464
must be a really good driver that one

>> No.14323927

>>14323902
America hates black people, they don't care about south asians

>> No.14323930

>>14323911
it doesn't seem unreasonable to me at all, honestly seems absurd that she is complaining about having to work when she was working

>> No.14323937

>>14323910
Do you work in the same position for 2 years and never ask for a raise?

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14323944

All I know is that I've gotten substantially more racist over the couple last weeks.

>> No.14323948

>>14323937
no, but I went to college and do not work an entry level assistant job. Like sure it sounds kind of shitty what she was getting paid, and especially not getting annual raises, but it doesn't sound racist

>> No.14323992

>>14323937
Ask for raises, sure. Ask for bonuses? No. I have never once gone up to my boss and said, "Hey boss, how about you cut me a check for some one-time extra money outside my normal wages?" That's an absolutely absurd idea.

>> No.14324032

>>14322852
That black girl really was shit. Her food looked kinda interesting but she has no camera personality and didn't keep me entertained throughout. Why would I want to watch her over Claire or Brad?

>> No.14324050

>>14323992
Since when is having a spine an absurd idea?

>> No.14324057

>>14324050
What kind of job do you work in that it's acceptable to request bonuses? Not raises: BONUSES.

>> No.14324064

So reddit is boycotting BA for being racist while /ck/ is boycotting BA for giving in to SJWs? Seems like they're done then.

>> No.14324067

>>14324050
What are you talking about? If you have a spine ask for a raise, asking for a bonus for doing specific acts you don't think you should have to do is just weird and awkward

>> No.14324094

>>14324057
Glad you asked, I am currently working on a nice youtube channel where I make the best food in all of the UK.
>>14324067
Why wouldn't you ask for specific bonuses (i.e. for every (new) video that isn't discussed in your contract) if you are obviously getting more leverage through all the popularity you are getting from the exposure on the channel.

>> No.14324108

>>14322881
Just watched the video, the mothers didn't have much criticism actually, they seemed to just enjoy watching him make Kimchi even if they felt he wasn't doing it right. Both the mothers say a few times at the end that there are loads of ways to make Kimchi. That one girl going "the way KOREANS do this is xyz" is a twat, I'd hate for someone to speak for me like that if I was Korean.

>> No.14324126

>>14324094
>Why wouldn't you ask for specific bonuses (i.e. for every (new) video that isn't discussed in your contract) i
We were talking about the boss's assistant being asked to pick up his kids or something, like doing normal ass assistant stuff

Even with video, the vast majority of Americans work on salary or are paid per hour worked, they don't get discrete bonuses for doing certain specific aspects of their job. Sohla was well on the path to earning one of their more lucrative video contracts, she was likely to do that soon

>> No.14324131

>>14322499
But if you were picked up ahead of someone with more merit because the other person was of a race the employer is prejudiced against you'd feel pretty good about it. You might even convince yourself it didn't happen.

>> No.14324136

>>14320633
She sounds like my high school Spanish teacher who was Argentinian.

>> No.14324147

>>14323150
Maybe that's why she's so chubby

>> No.14324155

>>14320633
She has said on camera many times that she's from Argentina.

>> No.14324190

>>14323805
It's a minor nudge against the cycle of making race a relevant concept. Well worth it to me. I'm not looking to achieve some kind of authoritarian, immaculate lack of racism. Making it marginal enough for it to be a non-issue for most people is... pretty damn good.

Race doesn't exist. It literally doesn't. It's a stupid idea what with the knowledge we have about these things nowadays.

>> No.14324247

>>14324190
>Race doesn't exist. It literally doesn't. It's a stupid idea what with the knowledge we have about these things nowadays.
It doesn't exist except in significant physical and intellectual measures.

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>>14324190
>Race doesn't exist. It literally doesn't. It's a stupid idea what with the knowledge we have about these things nowadays.

>> No.14324287

>>14324247
well thats the thing, ancestry and race are not the same thing. Race is a made up cultural thing with some basis in ancestry but with a bunch of bullshit added. Ancestry and genes matter, race doesn't

>> No.14324309

>apply to an entry level editor position at BA with a decade of industry experience
>agree to a contract for 50k that you know doesn't pay for video appearances
>some coworkers you know get paid for video appearances, but you better not talk about it or negotiate with your boss privately, who fucking does that?!
>shove your face into everyone's videos knowing you won't get paid
>BLM protests happen
>ride its coattails and throw your boss under the bus on social media for a post made over a decade ago
>blame your skin color for a raise you could've gotten by waiting a few months, negotiating like an adult, or finding a more suitable senior role catered to your experience instead
What a chad move, but she's a fucking idiot and it should've been grounds for termination. Shame on BA.

>> No.14324323

>>14324309
If they terminated her it would have been a horrible PR move.

>> No.14324381

>>14324323
Yeah, that's probably why she only brought it up now. How unfortunate for the rest of her coworkers, she's such a snake.

>> No.14324387

>>14324287
ok shlomo keep pretending your bullshit makes any sense

>> No.14324433

>>14324387
No, he's right. There isn't actually a consistent categorization of racial groups. It's a vague and meaningless term.

>> No.14324444

>>14324247
There is something that has more to do with what's a weird amalgam of lineage and population, but sure as hell isn't race. You're just dealing with a wide array of polygenic traits that may or may not actually surface in the phenotype, not to mention that you're dealing with the heritability of genes (and in relation to a possible shared environment, their locally inherited epigenetic expression), not some simplified whole like a racial identity. Race is bs.

I'm a humanities major. I've delved into the arcane and forbidden knowledge of postcolonial mysticism. Don't give me that shit. I'll other you.

>> No.14324453

>>14324444
Suuuure, you also have monogenic traits, but the polygenic ones are more relevant to what we're talking about, e.g., skin colour.

>> No.14324458

>>14324444
You just described race shlomo.

>> No.14324470

>>14324458
I'm a pale ass Protestant as fuck substandard quasiviking. You're horribly wrong. But I doubt there's any chance of persuading you to think otherwise if it's coming from me, so I'll just leave it here.

>> No.14324477

>>14324470
You're not racially hebrew, just spiritually.

>> No.14324516

>>14324387
Why is Obama considered black?
He is racially considered black but his ancestry is half African half European, so race can't be based primarily on genetic traits

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>>14320616

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>>14324519
>File: 5FCEFC61-5138-47B3-86CA-D(...).jpg

>> No.14324542

>>14320518
>fuck Sohla
Why? I thought she was great at SE (she, like Bravetart and now Sasha, genuinely pulled her weight around there). I was happy to see her appear at BA, even though I dislike BA and was concerned about her (seemingly rapid) weight loss. I doubt the quality of her cooking has deteriorated and she never played the race card at SE.

>> No.14324549

>>14324542
>Why?
Probably because she decided to burn the place to the ground over delusional ideas that her pay was lower because of her race

>> No.14324562

>>14324549
Was she the instigator behind that? I take back what I said about the race card if so. But I'm with you — fuck BA, hope she finishes the job. Sohla-as-cook was pretty good, but BA is a talentless void when it comes to actual cooking. Even the hyped-up gay-seeming dude is mediocre compared to people who know their shit.

>> No.14324563

>>14324516
By who? He's mixed race.

>> No.14324572

>>14324563
>By who?
culture generally, race is only vaguely tied to ones actual traits

>> No.14324577

>>14324563
By everyone in the world except you when you're trying to win an argument dishonestly, I suppose.

>> No.14324579

>>14320464
I want to marry Andy:(

>> No.14324582

>>14324563
I dunno, maybe all the people who kept saying he was the first black president.

>> No.14324583

>dont remember which one sohla is
>complained about whitey
>oh it's probably the really annoying indian gal
>google name
>biases confirmed
Thanks racism

>> No.14324586

>>14324516
Effective political marketing informed his self-identification as black, which in turn informed everyone else's identification of him.

>> No.14324592

>>14323295
They should've outright fired her, taken the bad press from the liberal rags and just continued on without the problem viewers.
The path they're on now will only end with the complete annihilation of bon appetit. Sohla will be the first rat to jump ship.

>> No.14324595

>>14324586
Exactly, when marketing can determine your race, you know race is a bullshit concept
Like 75% of latinos can be perceived as white if they just put on a local American accent and dress like a white guy

>> No.14324599

>>14323150
the mom's jawline is more prominent than her daughter's

>> No.14324601

>>14324577
How is someone who is half-black and half-white considered black by anyone? Blacks are the first to point out that he's mixed race.

>> No.14324602

>>14324595
CHI

>> No.14324606

>>14324595
You need to talk to people who aren't mush-brained leftist american whites

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>>14324433
All light is exactly the same, the distinctions between all the categories are man made and contrived.

>> No.14324621

Never. The entire "just a bunch of work friends hanging out and casually making food" vibe is destroyed. That's the only hook any of their shows had.

>> No.14324623

>>14324595
Marketing (especially in a capitalist system) can determine almost anything, so I'm not saying "race is a bullshit concept" because of that — we'd have to throw out a lot of babies with that bathwater. Public perception of a concept does not determine its validity or invalidity, which is a fault you most often see attached to the phrase "scientific consensus."

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14324686

>Be recipe writer/tester
>Get asked to do some videos for the zoomers
>Videos get popular for some reason
>Videos are making $8.4K - $134.6K in monthly revenue
>You are now an "electronic celebrity" or something
>Get to renegotiate contract to account for this
>They tell you they'll pay you for the video appearances
>One year later
>Still not getting paid
>Whatever, no one else is anyway
>Turns out some of the other staff are getting paid
>But only the white ones

She was right.

>> No.14324716

>>14320464
I hope Priya starts a channel where she cooks wearing low cut shirts.

>> No.14324727

>>14324601
>How is someone who is half-black and half-white considered black by anyone
thats the fucking point man
> Blacks are the first to point out that he's mixed race
The large majority of African Americans have significant european ancestry, which is pretty easy to see when you see footage of black africans, they are way the fuck darker

>> No.14324728

>>14324716
Absolutely fucking based. I want to inseminate Priya every day and night

>> No.14324733

>>14324623
>Public perception of a concept does not determine its validity or invalidity,
race is a cultural invention, it is only defined by public perception

>> No.14324739

I tried watching this shit. They seem to just gourmetize comfort food. When does it get interesting? And if it doesn't, good riddance.

>> No.14324755

>>14324739
Thats just Claire, her job is to look pretty and bring people in, than Brad grabs you with his comedic charm and actually interesting videos with genuinely great comedic editing

>> No.14324769

>>14324623
The fact that "black" and "white" are races should
already tell you what a fucking joke of a concept it is.

>> No.14324789

>>14324728
Hello fellow priya chad!

>> No.14324792

>>14324733
Race has clear genetic bases, otherwise you couldn't say that people with African ancestry are predisposed to sickle cell anemia (unless mosquitoes and malaria are cultural inventions now).

>>14324769
I'm not defending our (i.e. America's) current public understanding of race. But neither would I naively assume that the concept of "race" has no empirical grounding whatsoever. Unless you're an irredeemable empiricist and claim that all categories of knowledge depend on public perception.

>> No.14324793

>>14324755
>It's a comedy show
I was expecting a high-end cooking show. (Owned by Conde Nast) I was gypped.

>> No.14324796

>>14324779
its a blend, its interesting cooking content but with people that are interesting or fun too. Some of the characters are more fun than others, if you want maximum seriousness go for Chris and Andy

>> No.14324799

>>14324793
its not "a show" its a collection of shows with somewhat different tones but overlapping characters

>> No.14324803

>>14324796
I didn't find any of the cooking content interesting. Unless you're a complete cooking virgin.

>> No.14324806

>>14324792
>Race has clear genetic bases
Race is what happens when you take the scientific concept of genetics and filter it through made up cultural bullshit
If you want to talk about genetics talk about genetics and ancestry, if you want to talk about made up cultural stuff talk about race, they aren't the same thing despite their connection

>> No.14324814

>>14324803
>I didn't find any of the cooking content interesting
Sounds like you literally only watched claire's show so I don't think you are in a position to judge them in general. Honestly I think Claire's is the least interesting cooking wise, she is just there for the cuteness

>> No.14324820

>>14324792
I think it was already established that everyone here believes in genetics and ancestry, but that's different from race which is purely a social construct used by people to separate themselves into tribes for the purposes of "us vs them." Genetics are not a social construct, but race definitely is.

>> No.14324821

>>14324796
>lol they are fun quirky people! which is at least as interesting as the actual cooking
you sound like a teenager. or a woman

>> No.14324826

>>14324806
You don't think there's a practical value of taking that conversation about genetics and ancestry and applying it to geopolitical and cultural goings-on via race? To be clear: I'm not saying that race is not culturally defined. Of course it is. But I don't think it's merely a "cultural invention" without antecedents in empirical observations, nor do I think it should be cast to the wolves of subjectivity ("race is whatever I/we feel it is").

>> No.14324827

>>14324803
>Unless you're a complete cooking virgin.

That's the whole point of the brand, you won't find anything not tailored to novice cooks

>> No.14324829

>>14324821
if you want to watch top down cooking with no character interaction there is plenty of that already, they have become successful by curating a group or relatable but knowledgeable characters that people like coming back to repeatedly

Like if you don't care about this stuff go buy a fucking cookbook like a boomer women

>> No.14324833

>>14324827
This is why I've been saying it's boring. Thanks

>> No.14324835

>>14324820
I think I see your point, but why would race's ancestry coming from tribalistic behavior be antithetical to genetics? After all, tribalistic behavior (or lack of it) has clear antecedents in genetics.

>> No.14324836

>>14324826
People use genetic ideas in race when convenient, absolutely, but that doesn't make race a concrete scientific thing

>> No.14324854

>>14324836
>when convenient
Convenient for whom? I'm not being rhetorical, I genuinely want to understand your position. Do you not think the first questions about race were asked because of (obvious) phenotypical differences?

>> No.14324858

>>14324854
>Convenient for whom?
Thats the problem, people pick and choose when because it is not a rigorous concept

>> No.14324860

>>14324064
You can never please everyone. And the crowd is really tough to please these days

>> No.14324872

>>14324858
>it's not a rigorous concept
Should it be? And, while it isn't at all contrary to your point, isn't it interesting that "cultural race studies" reach uniform conclusions whether they're conducted in Harvard, Yale, or Stanford?

>> No.14324914

>>14324686
Those being payed for cameos were the ones that already had their own shows.

Also, Sohla was not there when the videos begun being made.

>> No.14324921

>>14321384
It's funny to find out how many BA-obssessed cat ladies seem to genuinely believe that working in a restaurant is just like being in the test kitchen

>> No.14324927

>>14323150

Be honest, without the subtitle, the gender is questionable

>> No.14324929

>>14322515
He hasn't said anything outright other than some support because he's not a fucking idiot. But Solah left Serious Eats because she couldn't handle them not letting her soapbox anytime someone left a rude comment.

>> No.14324944

>>14324835
It's more the fact that we should be able to acknowledge and respect genetic differences without filtering it through the concept of race as a means of creating an identity. Just look at the whole black vs white situation in America: Many people insist that all blacks are underprivileged and all whites are overprivileged and we need to make racially-motivated policies to correct the imbalance. But the thing about that is that you're completely disregarding the black people who are middle class or upper class and you're completely disregarding the white people who are working class or lower class. In truth, if we did more to aid communities based on INCOME (better funding and more scholarships for schools in poor areas, for example) then we would help to uplift ALL the people in those poor areas who are disadvantaged. If it just so happens that there are disproportionately more black people living there than white people, so be it, there will be more black people getting extra aid than white people. But when you start doing things like offering special scholarships to BLACK students then you just end up leaving behind the disadvantaged poor white, asian, or hispanic kids in favor of disproportionately aiding the black kids, or offering unneeded aid to middle class or rich black kids who qualify for the scholarships due to only being based on race. If we just got over ourselves and disregarded the concept of race as a defining factor in things we would end up with far more useful policies that would do a lot more good for EVERYONE. We shouldn't be about helping the blacks or the minorities, we should be about helping the poor and disadvantaged of ALL BACKGROUNDS, and in turn the aid would automatically proportionately help people in those categories based on race simply due to the fact that there is going to be an uneven distribution of races in any given category. Race as a concept does nothing but divide and hold society back.

>> No.14324951

>>14324944

NO! YOUR WRONG!

BLACK LIVES MATTER!

BLACK LIVES MATTER MORE THAN ANY LIVES!

>> No.14324961

>>14324944
Except there are concrete differences between the races. You can pump trillions of dollars helping negroes, as already has been done, but you can't change their genetics...they are going to be low IQ and lazy no matter what. That's what all this race bullshit is about, they are just angry at nature for being "unfair".

>> No.14324989

>>14324961
The irony is the strong genetics of "whites" is due to high selectivity from "white" women and strong environmental pressures. Once that is gone we start to regress to the level of negroes, you can forget about western style civilization.

>> No.14324996

>>14324944
Kek
This won't happen bcs it disallows people of colour to complain about everything tho

>> No.14325003

>>14324944
>>14324989
Thousands of years of evolution can be undone much quicker through miscegenation with an inferior race

>> No.14325011

>>14324944
Yeah, I definitely see your point now. While I agree with your idea that race's main legacy is social division, I am hesitant to preclude it from social policy altogether. Personally, I am not against ethnically homogeneous states, as they are shown to be higher-trust societies relative to ethnically heterogeneous ones. But I definitely agree that if one's stated policy goal is egalitarianism, then one should remove race from such considerations. I just don't think it should be removed from meta-political or theoretical discussions.

>> No.14325025

>>14325011
How do you prevent whites from dominating everything, then?

>> No.14325037

>>14325025
Provide enough opportunity to all people of all races across all socioeconomic classes and improve social and economic mobility and a natural diversity will arise at all levels.

>> No.14325041

>>14325037
Right, so how do you prevent whites from dominating everything?

>> No.14325051

>>14325037
Also, to be fair, literally only whites have ideals like that.

>> No.14325098

>>14325025
Why would I? If such a state naturally arises, then one could either endorse ruthless might-is-right competition or else one could donate to private charitable institutions. If whites come out on top, they have shown to be charitable in that private way before. I don't believe the government, with its tendency towards myriad inefficiencies, should be a charity.

>> No.14325103

>>14320471
story?

>> No.14325107

>>14324542
>and she never played the race card at SE.
That is literally why she left SE. And it’s why she claims her restaurant before SE failed.
>>14324562
Yep, she started it all. After Rapo’s “brownface” pic leaked, they had a team zoom call about it. She demanded he resign, and when her coworkers just awkwardly stayed quiet, she went nuclear on the socials. While ignoring things such as seniority, managerial roles, views, popularity, etc... she crafted the narrative that the BIPOC editors made less due to racism alone. Kudos to her, she was really smart to play it how she did given the current climate. Once BA burns to the ground some woke publisher will give her a job.

She definitely was one of the most talented and experienced chefs at BA. Which is why it all blew up. She publicly stated she was mad people she saw as inferior cooks to herself (Brad and Claire foremost) we’re making more than her, and probably would continue to do so until she built up her brand. It’s sad though, she had her own show in the works and was rising in popularity. If she was simply patient she could have gotten a better contract (like they did). It took Andy three years to do so. Sohla was on pace to do it in 1.5, max.

>> No.14325110

>>14324583
Sohla is Indian Dora. Priya is big titty mommy who lives with her parents.

>> No.14325114

>>14325098
>one could either endorse ruthless might-is-right competition
>they have shown to be charitable in that private way before
Hmm, it's almost like there is a natural racial order that advances the human species all together. Which btw I agree with everything you said, but that's not how these jealous incompetents want the distribution of political power to be.

>> No.14325121

>>14325107
>She definitely was one of the most talented and experienced chefs at BA.
That's not saying much. She is an idiot. Have you fucking seen the shit her restaurant was making? And tempering chocolate isn't some fucking culinary feat.

>> No.14325141

>>14325103
>Poo in the loo chef with Michelin Star experience in resume applies for entry level YouTube food entertainer job
>Has a history of crying racism in regards to previous career failures
>Gets paid like shit accordingly, though was on track to make decent money if she was patient for like a year
>Gets mad that more experienced YouTube food entertainers but less experienced chefs make more than her
>they happen to be wypipo (who have been working there for a decade)
>cries racism and proceeds to burn everything down since we’re in an active “white people suck” climate

>> No.14325159

>>14325121
I’m aware it’s not saying much. Hail Mary’s menu and pricing was a joke, and so is her excuse for why it failed. My only point was that she’s one of the only people at BA with any actual fine dining chef experience (and she wanted out of that industry, and it’s telling as to why). I think she’s a moron. She was rising in popularity and had her own show in the works. She could have renegotiated her contract like everyone else did once she had pull. Her arrogance and stupidity led her to the decision to potentially destroy everyone at BA’s career instead.

Most of the BA editors are Liberal Arts/Journalism graduates who made their way into Culinary School/Food Writing in some order. Some, like Priya, can’t even claim that. Most don’t have worldly culinary experience. From the top of my head only Brad and Gaby do, and that’s only the lower end more blue collar side of things.

BA is entertainment, not culinary excellence.

>> No.14325174

>>14325041
How do you prevent black people from dominating African countries? How do you prevent east asian people from dominating East Asian countries? Latinos from dominating Latin America? Arabs from dominating the Middle East? Seems a bit absurd when you think of it in those terms, doesn't it? Solve the inequity of opportunity and accept the outcome.

>> No.14325239

>>14325174
>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST IMPLY THAT YTS AREN'T THE DOMINANT MAJORITY GLOBALLY
It's scary how Westerners are so busy jerking themselves off to not notice this. While the West is obsessing about the historical evils of the Whitey, different groupings of Asians, Africans, Arabs, etc... are all doing their best to oppress each other. The Han Chinese pretty much want everyone else gone. The Rwandan Genocide is forgotten. Nobody wants to talk about Southeastern Asian slave labor in Qatar, or Middle Eastern slavery in general.

White majority countries obviously have their issues. But they don't have a monopoly on them, and are no longer the worst offenders.

That said, this is /ck/ and a thread about Bon Appetit. Debates about race, genetics, and slavery are best served elsewhere.

>> No.14325280

>>14325174
It was prevented when whites decided it wasn't fair to unconditionally dominate them and pulled out due to their humanitarian values.

>> No.14325298

>>14325280
Whites literally fought two massive wars between each other to decide whether they should just outright overtly control the rest of the world.

>> No.14325309

>>14325174
>Solve the inequity of opportunity and accept the outcome.
Why the fuck would anyone actually do that when one of the primal motivations in anyone's life is to increase the opportunities for one's offspring?

>> No.14325384

>>14325309
Because even if we do everything we can to reduce inequity of opportunity, it won't perfectly solve all socioeconomic differences no matter how hard you try. What it would do is improve everyone's economic and social mobility so that the best thing an individual could do for their offspring is work hard to improve their station and then pass on their work ethic to their kids. Trying to use the government to forcibly improve the opportunities and outcomes of only your children is antithetical to a functioning society, but that doesn't mean there won't always be individual things you can do for yourself and your family such as building wealth.

>> No.14325397

>>14320464
They are not your friends. Make some real ones.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7-HzFax9fcxbuDiKPZGdIV69N5-MszEa

>> No.14325449

>>14325384
You just described a contradiction. You can't "improve everyone's economic and social mobility" all you can do is have the government leave people the fuck alone.

>> No.14325524

>>14325449
>You can't "improve everyone's economic and social mobility"
You can, by doing things like improving education in poorly educated areas, which usually map to being economically poor areas as well. Increase funding to poor schools so they can offer their students a quality of education and varieties of opportunities more similar to schools in richer areas. It's the responsibility of the individuals to then study and learn and take advantage of the better education and opportunities, but if it's offered then they have no one to blame except themselves. These kinds of broad-based improvements can be made which would inherently improve the ability of people to succeed from an otherwise-disadvantaged position. The problem is when we approach this from the perspective of "how do we ensure X number of black students accomplish Y goal" and create racially-motivated, inequitable solutions that don't help everyone and just increase division and hostility from those who feel they're being left out of the assistance.

>> No.14325539

>>14325524
> improving education in poorly educated areas, which usually map to being economically poor areas as well. Increase funding to poor schools so they can offer their students a quality of education and varieties of opportunities more similar to schools in richer areas.
The thing is they have been doing exactly that in the USA for decades, and negroes are still illiterate.

>> No.14325556

>>14325524
In Africa the only way they sustain any semblance of civilization is to literally beat people until they do work.

>> No.14325575

>>14325524
>improve the ability of people to succeed from an otherwise-disadvantaged position
the only disadvantaged position is racial/genetic, and you can't fix that with education and funding

>> No.14325592

>>14325539
>>14325556
>>14325575
All we can do is remove hurdles from the path. If people still don't want to put the work in to walk the path then they must accept the fate they bring upon themselves.

>> No.14325608

>>14325524
>You can, by doing things like improving education in poorly educated areas
We have literally been trying this for generations, throwing more and more money at it every year, doesn't help when you have a culture that shuns education

>> No.14325614

>>14325592
Right. That's why there is such a huge fight for racial discrimination and race-specific programs. If we instituted actual equality the natural differences between races would lead us to complete domination by whites. No one but whites actually wants such equality, although it might seem the moral and logical system you can easily re-frame it as "white supremacy" in the context of modern US politics.

>> No.14325634

>>14325614
I don't give a shit that asians will make up 50% of our colleges and there would be no blacks whatsoever. Work harder no one deserves gibs even whites. Also get rid of the flow of money and immigrants from China where at the end of the balance they end up only taking and see what happens.

>> No.14325660

>>14320491
Why do you call them that? It's fucking annoying. Keep regurgitating fucking buzzwords from /pol/ dumb faggot.

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>>14320499
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcC66gEtBLo

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>>14325592
>they must accept the fate they bring upon themselves.
And how's that working out for the youngest generation?

>> No.14325946

>>14325939
I have a P.h.D. in mathematics about about to start an entry level job at 300k

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Imagine the giant shit Molly took after eating all this food

>> No.14326078

>>14323882
Lmao this is literally the plot of the first babu bhat episode of Seinfeld.

>> No.14326206

>>14322685
Brad lives in Jersey.

>> No.14326222

>>14323362
>brad and matty show
kino

>> No.14326229

>>14324611
I don't think you're making the point you think you are.

>> No.14326243

big incel vibes ITT

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>>14321156
gotchu

>> No.14326568

>>14326229
I don't think you understand the point.

>> No.14326574

>>14326568
There is no point unless you move the goalposts. The light spectrum is easy to identify, categorise, and define. So what? That doesn't mean everything is.

>> No.14326760

>>14324803
Same. I liked the stuff they did with restaurants. They're far from being "competent" food reviewers, but I enjoyed the format of Delany's shows.

>> No.14326764

>>14324826
Thing is, you appear to be looking for ways to justify the existence of the word because it exists. It's not useful. Sure, the discussions you'll have about certain issues will be more cumbersome and require more background knowledge, but at least they could better reflect scientific literature and have a degree of actual nuance.

>> No.14326770

>>14324944
For real, America needs to start talking about ethnic groups instead of race and get back to developing infrastructure. Prison, police and school reform, start improving nutrition standards, etc. I get it, the business interests won't go away, but these crises could be seen as an avenue towards change for these things if people could start focusing on common issues instead of identity.

>> No.14327149

>>14326574
Yes we're all part of the human race. Now let the adults talk.

>> No.14327154

>>14326770
You conveniently forget that the infrastructure is developed, built, and maintained mostly by whites.

>> No.14327169

>>14326770
>Prison, police and school reform
Must surely be a coincidence that blacks are the problem for all three. Time to reform them, and not reform the black community.

>> No.14327174

>>14327169
It's the fault of the racist systems, systemic racism if you will, there's no other rational explanation.

>> No.14327193

>>14326770
Who is this America? How about you jealous incompetent commie faggots stop trying to take money from working people to pay yourself to be "counselors" and stop treating blacks like retards and pets and let them struggle like every other human being who decides to accomplish anything in life.

>> No.14327198

>>14327193
Also can't forget to fund the revered and vital "community organizers" as well that contribute so much to society.

>> No.14327221

This thread blows. What's new? What's occured lately in the past couple weeks? I don't wanna argue about race I wanna hear how BA is falling apart

>> No.14327222

>>14322881
im just going to call it chilli sauerkraut from now on and call them racist for appropriating my eurotrash heritage

>> No.14327229

>>14327221
Brad finally came out as a tranny

>> No.14327252

>>14324094
best food in all of UK.
having lived here now for a bit I doubt that very much.
or perhaps you are but i'm sure its still garbage from a global perspective.

>> No.14327337

>>14327174
So. Much. This!!! Blacks are over-represented in crime all over the world. Racism must be stopped!

>> No.14328016

So has Bon Appetit stopped producing videos for good?

>> No.14328122

>>14328016
Yep, seems so. The good old days are finished. But BA might come back at some point with a bunch of random authentic ethnic dishes videos/hosts and completely remove people like Chris, Molly, Brad, etc. from the spotlight

>> No.14328160

>>14328122
>completely remove people like Chris, Molly, Brad, etc. from the spotlight
But they're the only reason I watch BA's videos.

>> No.14328217

>>14328160
Same. But they have to go. So all the 'minorities' can take over. Let's hope they don't remove their old videos...

>> No.14328512

>>14320464
THEY ARE RACIST AND DON’T SUPPORT PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION OR EQUAL PAY FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR

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>>14328512
>PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION
Proportional representation would require 75% of the employees to be white. Source: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219

>> No.14328611

>>14327193
Equality of opportunity, not equity, my friend. You're right in the sense that black people don't deserve to be treated like retards. Intellectuals like Sowell have some pretty serious things to say about what went wrong with predominantly black neighborhoods that fell down the wayside. The reason I'm suggesting this shit is because it applies to areas that have some serious issues, which doesn't arise from race. It's a socioeconomic and cultural issue.

>> No.14328622

>>14327154
Let's get other people doing it too, then.
>>14327174
Pushing this all-encompassing "systemic racism" narrative is total bs. It's just shoving responsibility and giving away personal agency so you can blame other people for every damn thing. Systemic racism is a real thing, but you have to be able to point it out instead of using it as a catchall phrase to justify political action without really looking at what's there.

>> No.14328628

>>14328578
And they’d have to fire every Jew except one.

>> No.14329434

>>14323362
This, I dont mind matty he is kinda a wuss tho. Loved the noodling ep. I have said this for years.. Only brad was worth watching. Like a month later some diversity hire would show up.. then another then another. Women in general should not be allowed to work. I feel bad for brad.

>> No.14329511

>>14329434
>Women in general should not be allowed to work.
Hello, based department?