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Anonymous Mon Jun 8 15:48:39 2020 No.14213898 [Reply] [Original]

Alright bros its happening, im getting a temporary illestomy surgery in 2 weeks (poop bag). Anyone here have one? What was your diet like after the surgery and how is it now?
>inb4 dude dont get the surgery change your diet
my intestines are so scarred from 3 years of bleeding and pain that there is nothing TO heal. even with a change of diet, scar tissue is still scarred and useless no matter what.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 15:53:50 2020 No.14213926 >>14213898 i have one and for me it's cincinnati chili and frozen burritos

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 15:54:46 2020 No.14213934 >>14213926 What does it feel like when the poop goes through your stomach wall

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 15:55:15 2020 No.14213937 >>14213934 like an orgasm but dryer

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 15:55:36 2020 No.14213941 >>14213926 i miss skyline chili i hope i can eat it again after my surgery

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 15:56:01 2020 No.14213944 >>14213898 >Paper or plastic sir? It's okay, I've got a bag for life.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 15:59:06 2020 No.14213971

had mine for 4 years now due to crohns disease. didnt lift before, but numbers have been ok after.
2 years training
weight: 73kg
Dead:185kg
Squat: 145kg
bench: 125kg
OHP: 90kg
Sit-ups: fuck off

Best advice is to find ab exercises that dont cause you any pain, as you're at risk of hernia, and to really focus on your brace.

diet wise, i eat everything in moderation. cant eat much corn,nuts,seeds,or fiberous fruit, but thats about it.

GL

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 16:00:52 2020 No.14213981 >>14213898 shit like this scares me

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 16:06:02 2020 No.14214013 >>14213981 I'd probably just kms.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 16:07:23 2020 No.14214024 >>14213898 change your name to shit bag sam

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 16:08:43 2020 No.14214031

>>14213898
I'm sure the staff are giving you some general diet advice so I won't bother with that.
Buy a notebook and write down what you eat every day and how your stomach behaved afterwards. People react very differently to different foods and this is a good way to find out what you can handle and what you can't

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 16:38:52 2020 No.14214191 >>14213944 a paper poop bag would possibly be problematic

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 16:56:39 2020 No.14214277

Ileostom8 here
The bag itself is fine, just a shame to no longer be able to lie on my front.
For the first weeks/months output will be high and your body won't know to wake up if it fills up in the night. To save yourself a disaster, set an alarm half way through the night to empty it.

Gonna be honest though, if you have Crohn's, you're not out of hell with this thing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 16:58:06 2020 No.14214280 >>14213898 haha ya, I probably need one too but I would rather die first, which will probably/hopefully happen soon. so tired of the pain.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 16:58:41 2020 No.14214281 >>14213898 I thought they've successfully done intestine transplants now?

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 16:59:25 2020 No.14214283

Oh, I haven't noticed any difficulties with any foods in particular besides ridiculous amounts of insoluble fibre

However, it's fuckin' hard to stay properly hydrated. Without a large bowel your body has a hard time absorbing water, and "just drink more" isn't an easy fix. You need to drink little and often. If you don't get used to hydrating properly, you'll be enjoying kidney stones in a few years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:00:21 2020 No.14214288 >>14214280 This is dumb. The bag isn't even inconvenient. Get over yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:07:28 2020 No.14214319 >temporary Oh, anon, no.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:30:41 2020 No.14214461 >>14214277 can't you just get a bigger bag for overnight? they have different sized catheter bags.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:32:01 2020 No.14214471 >>14214461 it's not like you can hotswap them anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:35:13 2020 No.14214486 >>14214471 that's dumb. what happens if your bag gets damaged?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:38:53 2020 No.14214505 File: 502 KB, 951x538, 1591311895385.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14213898 how the fuck does shit like this happen? shit genetics? taco bell every day of your life? bad luck?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:39:13 2020 No.14214507 >>14214486 Then you gotta change it, but it takes like 15 minutes and you'd normally only do it every 2-3 days.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:39:40 2020 No.14214512 How does one end up with one of these, besides some involuntary disease, like crohns?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:41:33 2020 No.14214520 >>14213898 How did she get so fat after the ostomy? Went overboard with those ensure packs?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:42:16 2020 No.14214523 >>14214512 Most common reasons are cancer or Crohns/ulcerative colitis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:44:31 2020 No.14214537 nystatin vancomycin elemental diet stelara and prednisolon is what got my crohns undrr controle

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:53:51 2020 No.14214586 >>14213898 I’d fuck her stoma

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:55:56 2020 No.14214594 >>14213898 how did you end up this way? is there a reason you couldn't fix your diet?

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:56:03 2020 No.14214597

It’s both a curse and a blessing 2bh. It’s amazing to get the freedom from not having to plan your life around where the closest toilet is. The shitty part is obvious, but you’ll get used to it.

As for the diet I’m sure they will give you tips. Mostly easily digestable food low in fibre in the beginning.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 17:59:35 2020 No.14214622 >accidentally squish it >the poop goes back into your body AAAaaa

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 18:04:19 2020 No.14214657 >>14213898 God, I wish that bag were me

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 18:15:35 2020 No.14214719 >>14214277 What else could there be with Crohns?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 18:42:26 2020 No.14214893 >>14214622 i dont think it works like that lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 19:43:40 2020 No.14215342 >>14213898 She cute

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 22:34:13 2020 No.14216435 >>14213898 Good luck bro

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:17:58 2020 No.14216655

>>14213898
ostom8 here, hope that you dont sleep on the side that you have the surgery on because good luck getting used to not sleeping on that side ever again, as for diet try not to eat too many nuts, corn (including popcorn), seeds, fruit or beef, be careful early on because you wont wake up in the middle of the night to change or empty it if need be, later on that becomes more normal and your body will wake you up if it fills up so have fun getting used to that

good luck OP

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:20:55 2020 No.14216672

>>14216655
it will be on my right side abdomen, i usually sleep on my back or on my left side but we'll see. i dont sleep on my stomach anyways because it makes my gut irritated.
do you find yourself waking up at night to empty the bag once things normalize still? i just want to have a good nights sleep for once in my life. right now i wake up 2-3 times a night to shit and by 7am i feel like garbage

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:23:36 2020 No.14216692 Should've switched to keto before it was too late man.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:24:47 2020 No.14216701 >>14214505 A prolonged diet high in processed grains and foods with preservatives.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:25:40 2020 No.14216706 this is the number 1 reason to never go gay

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:26:49 2020 No.14216713 >>14216672 Thats good, i´ve had mine for 12 years and still wake up at night if it needs changing but only if i´ve had spicy food or alcohol, sounds like it´ll be a life changer for you so i really hope it helps

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:28:40 2020 No.14216722

>>14216713
yeah, i have crohns for 17 years but the past 3 years ive gone from 100% remission to 0% rock bottom and its been hell. 3 years of prednisone has made me bloated weak and suffer bone density loss so anything at this point would be an iprovment

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:32:20 2020 No.14216744

>>14216722
Holy shit my guy, just switch to clean keto. Why continue to put yourself through this? You'll eventually be able to stop the medication as well, which with prolonged use is just increasing the inflammation in your body. You need to get back to baseline, go clean keto.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:36:25 2020 No.14216765
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>>14216744
with the temporary surgery the imflammed parts will have a few months to heal and if all goes well i might even get reconnected with a better chance at fighting this thing. problem is most of the damage is at the terminal end which is the one area they cant just snip out

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:38:24 2020 No.14216773 >>14216765 How much grain and sugar do you eat? What percentage of your diet.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:40:56 2020 No.14216788
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>>14213898
How often did you bleed and how much?

I fear I might be on the same road. My medical providers can't figure out what's wrong, they just shrug their shoulders and say IBS

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:42:48 2020 No.14216796 >>14216788 Go keto. You are addicted to processed grains and simple sugars, and they are clouding your mind and actively causing your inflammation.

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:46:45 2020 No.14216825

>>14216773
i do eat a decent amount of bread, but not a crazy carb lover.
Sugar is pretty low. so low that sometimes im craving a candy bar because i ahvent had anything sweet all day
daily diet is usually
breakfast
>1 egg, 1 bacon slice, 1 piece of white bread (wheats/whole grains dont sit will with me)
>mid morning-crackers, breakfast bars
lunch
>tuna and mayo, or
>ham sandwich (white bread, deli ham, mayo), or
> something from the food court like bbq chicken with rice
>afternoon time- crackers, cookies, sometimes a can of soup
dinner
>oven cooked chicken with bbq
>salmon with lemon peper
>hamburger on the air fryer
>cereal if nothing else

Anonymous Mon Jun 8 23:53:28 2020 No.14216873

>>14216825
>so low that sometimes im craving a candy bar because i ahvent had anything sweet all day
You shouldn't have anything "sweet" more than once a week, at most.
1 piece of white bread (wheats/whole grains dont sit will with me)
>mid morning-crackers, breakfast bars,
>afternoon time- crackers, cookies, sometimes a can of soup
>Bread for sandwhich
>cereal
>Hamburger bun
>BBQ sauce

You really need to cut out the carbs and snacks (which are entirely carbs). You're also likely not fully aware of how high your carb and sugar intake actually is, because that is ALOT of carbs and hidden simply sugars, and you seem to be under the impression that you aren't over-doing the carbs. I'm here to tell you that you are. Your diet is predominantly carbs, and all your problems stem from this. Do a clean keto diet for 2 months, and I guarantee that things will begin to clear up. Also look into fasting, you seem to be constantly feeding yourself with snacks if you aren't eating a meal and that is incredibly unhealthy and unnatural for our digestive system.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:03:37 2020 No.14216929 >>14216873 Keto is a fantastic diet, really helped me out just make sure you get some fiber in your diet OP if you do go with keto

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:11:03 2020 No.14216963
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>>14216796
>>14216873

Pretty solid advice, BUT it's only one step of many in recovery. Let me add to what you said. Since most doctors don't give a hoot about you.

1.) Eating a GAPs or SCD diet is essential + probiotics
2.) You must ultimately address what's fucking up your system. It's often a parasitic infection, fungus, or pathogenic bacteria. Doctors have low success detection rates for all of these. So you might need to be your own advocate to get treatment. Unless your family has a history of gastrointestinal disease, the body doesn't often fuck itself, something is usually triggering it. Find that and you can heal yourself. Drugs you should research:

Mebendazole: hookworms, pinworms, whipworms, ascariasis
Praziquantel: tape worms, intestinal flukes, opisthorchis, clornorchis, schistsoma
Ivermectin: strongyloides
Triclabendazole: liver flukes

Those first three drugs should be required for all ibs and Crohn's patients. It would correct 70% of cases. The rest just need strong antibiotics and a poop transplant.

It's better than losing your intestines. Fuck this medical system and gastroenterologists who don't want you to be fixed. They want lifelong patients and to give you anti inflammatory medications and get mega bucks from surgeries.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:24:53 2020 No.14217028 >have fluid shits almost every day >sometimes it switches up to constipation for days >rarely have I regular shits I've been pissing out my ass since 2006. I can remember it so well because it all started during a trip to France in that year.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:31:47 2020 No.14217049

>>14214512
Ulcerative colitis/Crohn's doctor straight up told me they don't understand it either so treatment varies person to person. They think it's a combination of genetics and environment and sometimes auto immune.

Worst bit was the doc just kinda shrugging when I asked how to avoid poop bag in my future. Thanks a lot doc.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:38:31 2020 No.14217071 >>14216963 Based Keep spreading the word.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:40:07 2020 No.14217082 >>14217028 I had that for 8 months during college. It was hell balancing between Imodium and lamodal. I still don't know what it was or what caused it only that I'm grateful it's over.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:40:10 2020 No.14217083 >>14217028 You probably have worms if it started during a trip...how you didnt come to this conclusion is beyond me

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:44:52 2020 No.14217097

>>14216873
you make some good points. the reason while i have small meals during the day is because if i go to long without a meal my gut goes spastic and starts forcing poop out of me even when i dont need to go. drs cant explain it. its like how if i drink a few gulps of cold water my gut muscles immediately freak out and im in the bathroom in under 30 seconds

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:48:27 2020 No.14217109 >>14217083 I don't know there were never any worms in my stool.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:49:15 2020 No.14217113 >>14217109 They would be in your intestine.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:49:43 2020 No.14217116

>>14217097
also i just looked into Keto to see what it was all about

Foods to Eat: You should base the majority of your meals around these foods:

Meat: Red meat, steak, ham, sausage, bacon, chicken and turkey.
>-red meat gives me major issues so i can barely eat it once a week

Fatty fish: Such as salmon, trout, tuna and mackerel.

Eggs: Look for pastured or omega-3 whole eggs.
>-already eat eggs daily but gives me major gas and cramps
Butter and cream: Look for grass-fed when possible.
>-lactose intolerant, cant do it
Cheese: Unprocessed cheese (cheddar, goat, cream, blue or mozzarella).
>-same as above
Nuts and seeds: Almonds, walnuts, flax seeds, pumpkin seeds, chia seeds, etc.
>-seeds dont digest, cant do it

Healthy oils: Primarily extra virgin olive oil, coconut oil and avocado oil.
Avocados: Whole avocados or freshly made guacamole.
Low-carb veggies: Most green veggies, tomatoes, onions, peppers, etc.
>- i really hate tomatoes and peppers , but could probably deal with the rest
Condiments: You can use salt, pepper and various healthy herbs and spices.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:50:52 2020 No.14217119 >>14217028 See this >>14216963 Likely a parasite (most are not visible to the eye, even if you dissected up your poop nuggets)

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:51:47 2020 No.14217122

>>14217110
>im not against it but what kind of life would it be if you could only eat 20% of the food out there?
A life without constant digestive stress and discomfort? Besides, the other 80% of things you are referring to aren't even food, they are devoid of the nutrients your body needs to survive, and are simply edible calories.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:54:53 2020 No.14217137 >>14217113 Yes but wouldn't they come out once in a while?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:55:58 2020 No.14217142 >>14217119 Fuck. Would a doctor think I am a madman if I went to a doctor 14 years later? I have complained about diarrhea often over the years but nobody ever bothered to really check me out.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:58:16 2020 No.14217151

>>14217049
>auto immune
Yah, nawww, that's just a cop out by lazy Gastroenterologists. Your body is a sophisticated machine, if it's doing friendly fire, then it is most likely shooting at something legit. These cunts never help. These fucks want 3 things... Colonoscopy, give you anti inflammatory meds, or surgery. They have a deficiency of braincells for anything else. They are lazy as shit and sheekle hoarding money changers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 00:58:39 2020 No.14217152 >>14217137 No, they just grow. The largest tapeworm ever found in a human body was 108 feet long.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:03:40 2020 No.14217166

>>14217109
You won't see them, they only shed eggs into the feces. Microscopic eggs. The worms latch onto the cells of the intestines or some, prefer to thread themselves into walls of the intestines.

When you get treated and they die, then you'll see a few

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:05:38 2020 No.14217175

>>14217166
>>14217152
Ah fuck now I am spooked. It literally started after I had a drink out of my guest family's bathroom tap one night. I was too scared to go into their kitchen.

The next day I almost shat myself on the way to school.

I'm still dealing with this crap 14 years later.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:07:39 2020 No.14217186 >>14217151 >colonoscopy its true, ive had 7 scopes in the last 3 years alone pros: fentanyl anesthesia gives you great sleep cons: youre shitting for 12 hours the night before

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:09:35 2020 No.14217203 File: 518 KB, 610x1244, Amoeba.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14217175 That sounds like a bacterial or amoeba infection. >Pic related

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:11:58 2020 No.14217212 >>14217203 But wouldn't that stop at some point even without treatment?

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:12:06 2020 No.14217214
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>>14217142
Yep, they will not give a fuck.

Only an "infectious disease doctor" handles these matters; it is a specialized field. Tell them your symptoms and that it occurred/started during your travels. They'll run some lab tests and give you anti parasitics based upon what they discover.

Warning though, mebendazole in the United States now costs $400 a pill and you'll probably need 12 of them, so it'll cost $4,800 without insurance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:12:32 2020 No.14217220 >>14217212 Lol no

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:12:53 2020 No.14217223 >>14213937 i let air out of my nose reading this

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:13:01 2020 No.14217224 >>14217214 >Warning though, mebendazole in the United States now costs $400 a pill and you'll probably need 12 of them, so it'll cost $4,800 without insurance. I'm in Germany, so I'll be fine.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:13:41 2020 No.14217228

>>14217122
ok you have a point but damn im gonna miss all those things.

>sample diet for Keto
Breakfast: Bacon, eggs and tomatoes.
Lunch: Chicken salad with olive oil
Dinner: Salmon with asparagus cooked in butter.

hey this isnt so bad, i like most of those things already and i basically eat bacon and eggs every day of the week anyways

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:20:24 2020 No.14217255

>>14217175
Sounds like a prolonged case of dysentery. I've had an entoemeba infection, it's awful. It can kill you, especially if something else drags down your immune system.

If untreated it can last for years.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amoebiasis

The solution is a 8 day course of metronidazole at a high dosage.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:21:02 2020 No.14217259

>>14217142
frankly dude no one in this thread really has an answer for your anal issues. it could honestly be an incredible number of things.
one thing though, if you haven't tried it yet, is diphenoxylate. i've got a buddy who shits like five times a day, and he started taking it and shits like twice a day now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:24:31 2020 No.14217268 >>14217224 Hold on to your healthcare system for dear life because the same powerful folks that turned on us into a country of corporate serfs will be coming for the rest of the world once they're finished hollowing us out financially.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:25:54 2020 No.14217274

>>14217259
Yes I understand that but every hint helps. It's just a shame that no doctor ever bothered to check it out thoroughly. They usually just sent me home with a few days off and the advice to drink tea.

I've been dealing with the runs for over ten years but I guess they just figured I wanted to just have a few days off work.

>>14217255
This actually sounds too dangerous considering it's been so long. But I will insinst on checking my shit.

>>14217268
Man I hope not. I'm a schizophrenic and I need meds to not go off the deep end. I wouldn't be able to pay for all these psych visits and meds.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:28:12 2020 No.14217286

>>14217259
That still doesn't address the root cause. I recommend whoever you are, try to correct the problem in absoluteness. Don't settle for a bandaid unless you have absolutely exhausted solving the root cause of your problems. Anti-inflammatory and pain killers are merely crutches.

But w/e it is your quality of life, not mine.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:35:33 2020 No.14217322

>>14217274
>This actually sounds too dangerous considering it's been so long.
Not really because some people are asymptomatic carriers of it. It's lethal for some, a passing illness for some, a chronic illness for some, and a nothingburger for others.

Regardless, it sounds like something is screwing you up. Start by getting stool tests run for parasites, entamoeba histolytica, and giardia.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:36:36 2020 No.14217332 >>14214471 ? most bags detach from the wafer

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:38:58 2020 No.14217343

>>14217228
That's the proper spirit. Give it a go, and you'll like appreciate the positive changes so much you won't look back. I would recommend getting "keto pee strips" which allow you to gauge the level of ketones in your body. They're cheap, and you'll need them to ensure your body enters and stays in ketosis. They're on Amazon. Good luck!

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 01:43:41 2020 No.14217363 one of my patients has one and he constantly forgets to empty it so it fills up then the adhesive seam bursts and gets shit everywhere

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 02:04:56 2020 No.14217440 File: 57 KB, 712x915, MJURT95.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14217363 And let me guess, then it's your job to clean it up

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 02:12:22 2020 No.14217457 File: 47 KB, 650x773, crying.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14217440 its true it is

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 02:43:57 2020 No.14217552
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Diarrhea anon here.
I called my GP and I have an appointment this afternoon. They will give me a referral to a gastroenterologist.

I hope they can fix this crap (pun intended)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 02:48:59 2020 No.14217565 >>14217223 Based and exhalepilled

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 03:16:18 2020 No.14217628 >>14214520 because she could actually eat without excruciating pain she probably went a bit overboard, i imagine most people here would too.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 04:03:55 2020 No.14217750

My dad has one of these and it’s honestly remarkable how much this thing helps and hurts him.

He’s had it for 20+ years and has had crohns since age 10. His digestive system is literally fucked. The bag helps but it requires so much expensive upkeep, and it’s not even a 100% fix. He has to be extra careful with foods like corn and spicy things. He’s still in good spirits though and in much better nutritional health than me. He’s a physical trainer of all things. Dudes lowkey ripped for mid 50s.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 04:15:38 2020 No.14217787

>>14213898
I've always wondered what would happen to people with a colonostomy if there was an apocalyptic/society collapse scenario. In the absence of medical care and new bags, could you somehow keep it closed and open it periodically to dump your torso shit in the open? Would there be a significant risk of infection? I'm imagining it's some sort of plastic valve you have stuck in you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 05:42:53 2020 No.14217967 >>14214281 yeah small bowel transplant is a thing but you gotta wait for a donor and its has to be a last ditch option because off all the bullshit that comes with it e.g immunosuppressants

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 05:46:47 2020 No.14217974 >>14217787 There's no more significant risk of infection than would be with your butt, but yeah we're kinda fucked if we lose access to supplies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 09:35:02 2020 No.14218717 >>14217750 Your dad sounds cool

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 10:38:35 2020 No.14218907 >>14213898 are you fat? you can heal it by fasting, go watch, cole, dr erik berg and dr berry and get redpilled on fasting

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 10:40:15 2020 No.14218910 >>14213898 bitch put the beef on

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 10:44:19 2020 No.14218919 >>14218907 No I’m actually underweight. I lost 15 lbs since being sick. Down to 132 right now

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 10:57:55 2020 No.14218970 Having to get one of these is my biggest fear. What can cause me to need one, and how can I avoid it? I have hemorrhoids and anal fissures. How can I best take care of my asshole and digestive system?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 11:58:30 2020 No.14219214 >>14217552 Be prepared he'll want a colonoscopy because they are brainlets. Ask for an ova and parasite test, entamoeba test, and giardia test as well.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 12:05:57 2020 No.14219245
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>>14218970
Buy pic related for relief. They are a godsend.

To avoid the worst, you need to avoid foods that irritate your system. You must also eradicate any low lying infections you might have (parasitic, bacterial, or fungal).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 12:07:12 2020 No.14219249 File: 20 KB, 337x290, 41oa-rdXqlL._AC_SY400_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14219245 Pic related; No prescription required, can be bought at any pharmacy

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 12:07:28 2020 No.14219251

>>14214013
I know, right?
One of the things that scared me the most about a reality show, is one episode of a random show I watched several years ago on discovery home & health.
It was about a bodybuilder who was forced to retire because he had to use one of those bags.
The episode showed how his life was basically ruined, he was debating with his doctor about if he should lift weights again or not, he lost his job, uh and his fiancee left him.
That is what nightmares are made of bro, at least for me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 12:13:18 2020 No.14219271 >>14219249 Am I supposed to shove this up my asshole? You think my anal fissures might go away if I eat healthy, balanced foods and use this? I just want to wipe without bleeding every time bruh. Thanks for the recommendation btw.

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 12:20:19 2020 No.14219299
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>>14219271
Yes, lubricate it with ky jelly or olive oil and gently and slowly push it in. It'll feel like an angel gave you a rim job in 20 minutes. Insert one after every poop for a week or two and you'll feel like a new many. It'll soothe most problems around the rectum. The decreased inflammation will give you time to heal and will allow polyps and hemmys to shrink a bit.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 12:21:00 2020 No.14219300 >>14218970 Nobody gets a poopbag because of hemorrhoids or anal fissures you silly goose. Two thirds of all adults get them sometimes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 12:38:50 2020 No.14219395 >>14219299 You're a god. Thank you, I'll pick some up. I can't wait to relieve my asshole.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 18:50:52 2020 No.14221252 >>14213898 >worked at a gastro clinic for a while Shit sucks bro. The upside is there are some serious freaks who will pay you good money for pics of a buttplug in your stoma

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 18:54:46 2020 No.14221287 >>14221252 sounds like it would be extremely painful

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 18:59:47 2020 No.14221326 >tfw no colostomy bag gf

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 19:11:32 2020 No.14221411 >>14216825 Seems high in sugars and other simple carbs, while being low in fruits and vegetables. Is this due to Crohns?

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 19:16:22 2020 No.14221452

>>14221411
since ive gotten sick, the past 3 years, the amount of foods i can tolerate has gone way down. When I was in remisson i used to only be lactose intolerant, and even then i would just get gassy/diarrhea if i had too much pizza.
since ive been sick, i cant eat whole grains anymore, or some fruits, or most red meats, or anything close to dairy like butter, or anything with any level of spicyness to it, or nuts, or chocolate, so i really dont know what to do and tend to just eat eggs all the time and the same 3-4 meals every day for weeks

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 19:22:26 2020 No.14221487 >>14213981 if I started getting some disease like that I would just alter my diet and fix that shit. fuck getting a poop bag

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 19:30:05 2020 No.14221530 File: 216 KB, 960x1280, 144519827597 im fat im happy and ive been busy all.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Op girl: current year

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 19:31:17 2020 No.14221538 >>14213971 Crohn can do that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 19:31:54 2020 No.14221539 >>14221530 no scar?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 19:36:03 2020 No.14221567 >>14221539 Modern science is really something

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 19:46:48 2020 No.14221614 >>14217151 They turned my brother upside down for almost a decade, chrons was like the last diagnosis after nothing elseworked. After some time it's just easier to finally get the symptoms down with antiflammatories than playing guniea pig.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 20:50:17 2020 No.14221946 >>14221530 god thats hot

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 20:53:09 2020 No.14221956 >>14221530 thicc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 21:20:13 2020 No.14222117 >>14213941 Worst chili. How do people like this? I'd rather eat hormel chili

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 21:22:29 2020 No.14222136 >>14214031 This

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 21:26:00 2020 No.14222152 >>14222117 what about Gold Star?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 21:34:36 2020 No.14222203 >>14216825 Thats more bread than I eat in a month

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 21:37:22 2020 No.14222225 >>14216825 Oh and stop with the candy. I got a sweet tooth and I eat a few pieces a year if that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 22:55:25 2020 No.14222710 File: 181 KB, 903x906, 1584907091696.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14214024

Anonymous Tue Jun 9 23:01:05 2020 No.14222730

>>14213981
Oh man, my dad had an LVAD for a while. He had congestive heart failure. Basically it was a heart pump that kept blood flowing, attached to a battery pack that came out of his stomach. A fanny pack connected to his heart. That shit scares the shit out me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 9 23:22:26 2020 No.14222834 >>14222730 I shouldn't have googled that, holy shit. That's pure nightmare fuel.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 07:57:29 2020 No.14224416 >>14222730 Holy shit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 08:52:07 2020 No.14224537 Where does the shit exit? Is it just the large intestine that's bypassed? I would just go full carnivore. Beef, liver, salt and pepper.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 09:03:21 2020 No.14224562 >>14222203 Nice fucking blog, bigot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 09:36:05 2020 No.14224660 >>14224537 yes

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 09:46:18 2020 No.14224691 File: 137 KB, 721x800, 1497148983170.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Diarrhea anon here. I went to drop off a stool and a blood sample today. Results will be in Friday. Hold me, brehs. I don't want to have some shitty life changing disease

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 09:58:24 2020 No.14224735 >>14221452 Wouldn't be suprised if your healthy gut flora was all fucked up, which explains why it cascades from dairy to almost everything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 10:15:43 2020 No.14224797 >>14219271 Suppositories usually come pre-lubed

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 10:16:44 2020 No.14224799 >>14221326 You want to fuck her in the opening don't you?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 10:30:06 2020 No.14224843 >>14214719 Ulcerative colitus. Which is just as bad, if not worse.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 10:32:32 2020 No.14224850 >>14224691 Your life with a shitty disease will be the same, only if it's diagnosed and there's treatment it can change for the better.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 10:33:40 2020 No.14224857 File: 41 KB, 657x526, 1025afb1fb7b041ce7a13905763792148809ae97341b88f3444295f99ad2e47b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14224850 Yes, nothing much would change really if they cant treat it.

Anonymous Wed Jun 10 10:34:57 2020 No.14224863

>>14214594
Not op, but in some cases like UC, so little is known about it there is no "diet" to fix it. In some cases, eating to fix it can actually make it get worse. In my case, even foods that might not usually trigger it can still cause an attack. Not to mention even the smallest amounts of an actual trigger food can lead to massive, painful attacks, and it's easy to accidentally eat one.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 10:38:25 2020 No.14224870 >>14217049 Yeah, that's been a really rough part. Docs not knowing and not caring that they don't know.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 10:51:54 2020 No.14224902 >>14224863 >it's easy to accidentally eat one americans, am I right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 11:17:21 2020 No.14224986 >>14224416 >>14222834 Ikr, just imagine tripping and snagging the cord

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 11:23:29 2020 No.14225012 >>14221287 U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U U

>>	The Pastor Wed Jun 10 11:28:40 2020 No.14225029 >tfw no QT ostomy gf Why even live.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 11:30:17 2020 No.14225036 >>14224870 How would caring that they dont know make it any better?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 12:46:43 2020 No.14225333 Are these bags on all the time, permanently? Can you take the bag off for things like bathing / sex / exercise? For those of you who do have one, how do you manage intimate moments if you can't take it off?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 13:18:15 2020 No.14225473 >>14225333 you dont poop 24/7 so you can take them off. over time you can tell when it will produce output. you can also get different sizes if you know you wont need a big bag for a while you can get mini bags and even a cap if you needed to

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 19:06:04 2020 No.14227294 >>14214657 lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 20:29:27 2020 No.14227771 >>14213898 Maybe it’s the lighting but she looks pretty bloated in the first pic, pretty typical for someone with an inflammation disease and steroids. Looks better in the second pic assuming she’s off meds at least

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 22:13:49 2020 No.14228307 >>14214288 >Having a literal shitbag glued to your stomach isnt inconvenient Clothing issues aside, it basically makes you undateable.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 22:21:59 2020 No.14228342 >>14224797 Hey, it's your asshole dude. I'd lube it up anyway, a little bit beyond what it was already, since my butthole is delicate and hasn't seen miles of dick.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 22:24:41 2020 No.14228359 >>14224857 It's likely treatable since you can recall exactly when it happened. It sounds like you picked something up and never got it treated. If they can figure out what it is, then you'll be better soon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 22:26:34 2020 No.14228369 >>14228307 >implaying you wouldnt date that cutie body image aside, most people these days cover up so much that you would never see the bag in pubic. the only hang up would be her personal issues with it

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 22:37:40 2020 No.14228419 File: 29 KB, 550x415, baby-oxygen-hospital-intensive-care-unit.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>14228307 Only undateable if you're a man. Women can always find a thirsty beta somewhere. Remember kids, "life sucks then you die."

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 22:49:46 2020 No.14228468 10 years of living with ibs... could be ulcer colitis... I come here for nostalgia of food I once could eat... my life is so fucking pathetic

>>	Anonymous Wed Jun 10 23:11:36 2020 No.14228568 >>14228468 Fix your ibs

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 13:14:51 2020 No.14231105 >>14228369 If I found out someone I was dating was hiding a shitbag, I'd drop them immediately when I found out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 13:30:04 2020 No.14231181 >>14213898 >It's another "Americanss get sick eating American food" episode http://crohnscarnivore.blogspot.com/

Anonymous Thu Jun 11 13:39:52 2020 No.14231212

>>14213898
Have fun smelling like a porta-potty while you have it. Everybody I’ve known with an ostomy bag would smell like chemically deodorants with a hint of shit every time I’d get close to them. Enjoy being in a perpetual state of shitting yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 15:43:41 2020 No.14231725 Shit bros, what if I can't tolerate fat. How will I keto mode... Got colitis

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 16:20:46 2020 No.14231865 >>14221487 jokes on you when it's something like UC or Crohns and you cant "fix" it with diet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 16:46:07 2020 No.14231951 >>14231865 sure you can't. as far as I can tell the only thing I know diet can't fix is pancreatic cancer

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 17:04:12 2020 No.14232019 >>14217097 This is happening to me as well, wtf

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 18:29:30 2020 No.14232310 >>14217274 jesus, i dont know what to say man, im so sorry...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 21:23:15 2020 No.14233097 >>14231725 yeah same. when i eat fatty foods my shit becomes litteral fat puscles, like when you pour oil on top of water. crohns cant digest fat at all so it comes out pale and foul smelling

Anonymous Thu Jun 11 21:37:37 2020 No.14233182

I think we are all dying slowly lol... and that’s a good thing, I have spent the last 4 years with zero socializing, not eating a real meal once, and going through a can of chewing tobacco every 2 days... I come here for the eye bleach effect after being on pol and x and engaging in doomerism

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 21:40:36 2020 No.14233193 >>14216765 We all know why that is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 11 21:41:54 2020 No.14233199 >>14233182 >I think we are all dying slowly lol. Yes, that's literally what aging is.

Anonymous Fri Jun 12 06:14:36 2020 No.14234706
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Hey this guy here >>14217028
My test results came back and I tested positive for this shit https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/c-difficile/symptoms-causes/syc-20351691

A round of antibiotics 3 times a day for a week and then a bunch of probiotics to get healthy bacteria back and I should be set.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 06:22:35 2020 No.14234716 >>14234706 This is what I do. If I see I'm constipated I start up with probiotics and some prunes after a meal. Pooping gets better after. Considering I used to abuse laxatives, I'm pretty impressed with the results.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 06:28:06 2020 No.14234725 >have some kind of IBS (no diarrhea just pains and bloating) >have hemorrhoids Bros I don't want to have to get a bag like this, how do I avoid it? If a doctor told me I had to get one I'd honestly unironically kill myself

Anonymous Fri Jun 12 08:01:08 2020 No.14234911
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>>14234706
No problem, I am glad I could help.

One thing to know about C. Diff though, is it is tough to treat and has a low success rate with antibiotics. So take a lot of probiotics during and after treatment.

Anonymous Fri Jun 12 13:27:58 2020 No.14235852

>>14234725
You can get hemroids laserd out if you have a lot of them and apparently it's pretty low maintence surgery, they used to have to scalpel them out and it was a nightmare in postop. To get rid of them, just drink like almost a gallon of water, take ducolux stool softeners(2) a day and get some smooth move senna tea and make 2 cups a day... just eat yogurt for a few days and cut out any hard foods and it will pass.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 13:53:05 2020 No.14235918 >>14234911 That’s why we’ve used fecal transplant for the last 20 years in the developed world.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 14:12:06 2020 No.14235976 >>14213898 Sorry bro, good luck.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 14:58:21 2020 No.14236151 >>14235918 Is that real wtf?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 15:07:27 2020 No.14236204 >>14236151 Yes. You take feces from healthy donor (typically family member) and give to patient through colonoscopy or nasogastric tube.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 15:23:51 2020 No.14236262 >>14213898 im gonna

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 15:27:17 2020 No.14236278 >>14236204 >hey sis can you poop in a bag they're gonna inject it into me tomorrow :) fuck that

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 12 15:58:25 2020 No.14236408 >>14236278 It has to be fresh, like straight from ass to mouth.

Anonymous Fri Jun 12 15:58:50 2020 No.14236412

>>14216825
This is so toxic. There is a lot of sugar in this, I dont eat this much in a week. You eat a lot of inflammatory plants and omega 6 fats. Why are you eating so frequently? What's with the numerous snacks? Literally sugar addicted, maybe prediabetic. Processed grains break into sugar in seconds, they're also unfermented so all antinutrients are intact. All cultures that subsist on plant food ferment it, soak it etc. they know well that there is poison and it must be removed before consumption.

If I had such terrible inflammation I would exclude all plants and eat just meat, copious amounts of small oily fish ( they are the least toxic ), eggs, cheese ( if one tolerates casein well, lactose is gone in aged cheese ) and organs, mainly liver. Make bone broth from leftovers. Do not overcook or burn food, best leave it slightly undercooked if there is no health concern. Crawings are likely to disappear completely within a month, mine were gone within a week.

Tuna is poison, replace it with small fish low on the food chain like sardines and sprats.

Don't fear fat, fat gives energy but unlike carbs there are no ups and downs ( and cravings & hunger caused by them ) to burn it, remove carbs.

Anonymous Fri Jun 12 18:59:20 2020 No.14237063

>>14236412
>why do you eat so often
see >>14217097
if i eat just breakfast at 7am and nothing until 12 or 1 i get very weak and my gut starts to spaz out causing me to be in the bathroom twice as often. i eat small meals so i dont get hungry feeling
I cannot tolerate fat well, it will not digest meaning it will come out greasy and oily and foul and my butt muscles are already weal so its my worse enemy. remember those jokes about women taking weight loss pill like Alli, where they shart and dont realise it, thats bc it was just fatty stool with no substance.
Also no dairy for me so no cheese,cream,milk,butter,or anything containing it unless i want be shitty 3x as much as normal.

I dont know if its clear but i dont eat ALL those things at every meal
for example today i had
1 piece bacon, 1 scrambled egg for breakfast
5 pieces oven baked asparagus with garlic and EVOO for lunch
2 small bnls sknls chix breasts with breading,oven baked for dinner
will probbaly have some deli sliced meats around 8 or 9 because i eat dinner at 6 and I HAVE woken up starving in the middle of the night many times if i dont eat close to bedtime

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 04:07:56 2020 No.14239000 >>14224843 you don't get ulcerative colitis with crohns. they're two separate diseases. I have UC, crohns is way worse than UC

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 06:40:41 2020 No.14239232 this thread is nightmare fuel. I don't want the poopbag ever guys

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 07:08:44 2020 No.14239297 >>14234911 what probiotics do you take?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 11:10:05 2020 No.14239900 didnt know there were so many pussies on /ck/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 11:13:37 2020 No.14239918 >>14213944 >It's okay, I've got a bag for life. They said temporary.

Anonymous Sat Jun 13 11:19:30 2020 No.14239943

>>14213898
You can eat whatever you want if you have an ostomy. That's kind of the point. You don't get the same inflammation problems usually when you aren't shitting like normal and just let the crap passively drain out of a piece of intestine pulled through your abdomen.
It's after the temporary ileostomy when your internal j-pouch is active and you're shitting like normal again that your diet will be screwed like before. They just start calling your previous Ulcerative Colitis the buzzword "Pouchitis" after you have that procedure done and the same inflammation hits your ileaoanal anastomosis.
Either that or they try to pull the "you actually had Crohn's all along" card to try to deflect blame for the failed j-pouch years later when it ruptures and you have a fist-sized hole in your abdomen from the intestinal contents basically digesting the flesh around where your intestines popped.

Anonymous Sat Jun 13 11:23:38 2020 No.14239956
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>>14239943
For me i wont be lucky enough for the jpouch. the first surgery will just detach my small intestine illeum to a bag while the lg intestine heals up. if it heals well enough they will reattach, if not they second surgery will remove the whole large intestine and butt and the bag will be permanent

Anonymous Sat Jun 13 11:29:00 2020 No.14239979

>>14239956
>For me i wont be lucky enough for the jpouch
That's a good thing honestly. I had the j-pouch and was just in the hospital because it ruptured and left a giant hole in my abdomen after the infection came to a head. I've also spent the past decade plus not being able to do much of anything outside of going to work and going back home because of needing to shit randomly with too much urgency too often to go out and do normal people things.
If I could go back in time I would have just asked for a permanent ostomy instead.
Have you tried one of the biologics yet (e.g. remicade / humira)? After a really long time with no meds I'm starting humira soon so I'll see if that helps maybe. It has lymphoma, multiple sclerosis, and opportunistic infections like TB as major side effect warnings from the FDA on it so it'll probably just add even more problems, but I give up and am just going to start shooting up the poison to see what happens.

Anonymous Sat Jun 13 11:40:22 2020 No.14240031

>>14239979
Good luck friend. I;ve been through the gamut of all meds out there which is how i ended up at the surgery option. I was on Remicade from 2006-2016 and had to stop due to some major insurance issues. I went a whole year without being sick with no medication which felt like a miracle. Then my dad get terminally sick and I was in the hosptial almost every day for 2 months and after all that stress my crohns came back at 100% power and for the past 3 years life has been miserable. If you can get on Remicade it might do it for you
I've been on the following since getting diagnosed in 2003
>prednisone
>lialda
>6MP
>methotrexate
>remicade
>humira
>stelara
>filgotonib
i've been holding off on getting the bag but there is just no other meds out there right now for me to try

Anonymous Sat Jun 13 11:57:05 2020 No.14240118

reading this thread, I remember why I never post about UC. every retard on the internet thinks they have the cure. you can ask 100 people with UC/Crohns what works for them and get 100 different answers. people get better with vegan diet, some carnivore, some SCD, etc. there's a guy that listens to a spirit and people take his advice. also how fucking stupid do you have to be do group IBS with IBD? Here's your natural remedy bro
https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=3458723#gsc.tab=0
https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=4018790#gsc.tab=0

Anonymous Sat Jun 13 12:05:24 2020 No.14240161

>>14240031
Thanks anon. Yeah, that's awful, but I think an ostomy would probably help a lot. Normies might be disgusted by the idea but they don't know what it's like dealing with all the alternatives to it. I think back on when I had my temporary ileostomy and it was one of the best times of my post-UC life. Was in college at the time and could just walk around and eat whatever I felt like without worrying about bathrooms or shitting blood.
>>14240118
>I remember why I never post about UC. every retard on the internet thinks they have the cure.
^^^This exactly.
I think it's because it's a disease involving the intestines that makes pseud retards convinced the cause must be diet. So unlike with autoimmune diseases like multiple sclerosis they can end up believing UC / Crohn's would go away if you just switch to keto or eat lots of yogurt.

Anonymous Sat Jun 13 12:13:00 2020 No.14240208

>>14240161
i know I sound like a sensitive faggot saying this but note the tactics used by these people when they push their agendas. they first make you believe that docs dont care about you which may be true but its only said to instill distrust to the people who've kept you alive this whole time and will still be there if youre alternative route goes bad. secondly they shame you for not having the incentive to treat yourself without knowing a single fucking thing about you. you can tell by the writing when these posts are made by someone with UC/Crohns and someone who just parrots what their favourite diet youtuber says
did you use all meds before surgery or was it emergency? hows dating and social life been with the bag?

Anonymous Sat Jun 13 12:18:37 2020 No.14240229

>>14240208
>hows dating and social life been with the bag?
I don't have an ostomy bag. I had a temporary ostomy many years ago.
>did you use all meds before surgery or was it emergency?
I haven't had any meds for over a decade until a recent hospitalization after which I'm now about to start humira.
Skepticism's fine, but it's a little retarded still with all the evidence out there to believe diet is the cause of UC / Crohn's when every reputable source in existence I've ever seen has concluded diet is, at most, something that *might* help reduce symptoms in mild disease cases.
If you have really bad UC or Crohn's you're already spending lots of time not eating anything. I'd spent months hospitalized back when I was first diagnosed where I wouldn't even get nutrition except through a parenteral feed that bypasses the intestines.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 12:26:10 2020 No.14240271 >>14221530 Why is she getting fatter?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 12:31:30 2020 No.14240303 >>14240271 You can actually eat and gain weight when you aren't vomiting and shitting out torrents of blood filled diarrhea 30 times a day.

Anonymous Sat Jun 13 12:33:10 2020 No.14240309

>>14240229
oh i misunderstood. so you have the jpouch now? and im assuming pouchitis or something that the humira will treat? im flaring and experimenting with foods. im on the last med id like to use and then its surgery so im gonna go all pseudoscience on this shit before i have to get anything taken out

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 12:34:21 2020 No.14240315 >>14240118 well that took a turn i wasn't expecting

Anonymous Sat Jun 13 12:40:48 2020 No.14240344

>>14240309
>oh i misunderstood. so you have the jpouch now?
Yeah. I'm not OP who mentioned they can't do the j-pouch and are getting the ostomy. I was just exchanging a couple posts with OP about why I personally think ostomy would have been a better choice for me as a permanent thing given how it at least frees you up to eat like a normal person without worrying about how every little piece of fiber is going to get caught up and give you horrible stop and go diarrhea to work it's way out and to not have to be tied down to a bathroom.
>im on the last med id like to use and then its surgery so im gonna go all pseudoscience on this shit before i have to get anything taken out
That's fine. I'm not opposed to patients doing that for themselves. I just don't like it when people show up and start going all "hey bro, just eat yogurt lol" when you've spent decades with a fucked up crippling autoimmune disease everyone in the field has long since established as not caused by diet.
>The exact cause of ulcerative colitis remains unknown. Previously, diet and stress were suspected, but now doctors know that these factors may aggravate but don't cause ulcerative colitis.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/ulcerative-colitis/symptoms-causes/syc-20353326
Also the best IBD mouse model to date was made accidentally while trying to make them have abnormally aggressive immune responses as an attempted anti-cancer measure, which is more evidence it's not a diet thing.
To suggest diet remedies for someone who's bad enough to have been on immonsuppressants is like offering someone a tylenol as an alternative to general anesthesia.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 12:40:49 2020 No.14240345 >>14240303 Yeah but now she's becoming obese. What's the point of getting healthy to become unhealthy again

>>	The Pastor Sat Jun 13 12:42:06 2020 No.14240351 >>14221530 Hot. Boobs look awesome.

>>	The Pastor Sat Jun 13 12:43:08 2020 No.14240357 Sorry, it's been a long lockdown for me and my town still hasn't reopened yet! s m h

Anonymous Sat Jun 13 12:46:59 2020 No.14240367

>>14240345
It would be better for her to not obese. But you're looking at things in hindsight and completely detached from whatever her living experiences have been, and she probably didn't decide in advance to stop having bowel disease and start having weight problems.
It's probably similar to people who get health problems from smoking that they picked up and indulged in to deal with stress problems.
Even medically endorsed solutions to problems tend to cause serious new problems of their own. That's the whole point for the concept of side effects.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 13:53:40 2020 No.14240639 >>14236412 shut the fuck up. you don't know what you're talking about. the man has an autoimmune disorder, he's not going to fix it by eating fucking sprats, you colossal dipshit

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 13 18:26:14 2020 No.14241787 >>14240351 >>14240357 its ok Pastor

>>	The Pastor Sat Jun 13 23:48:15 2020 No.14243059 >>14239232 I’m just wondering if the chic in the OP’s pic is single. I wouldn’t mind having a cutie shit-bag gf.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 14 02:52:21 2020 No.14243512 >>14236412 Very well stated and right on. Also OP says he's waking up in the middle of the night starving. You're right on the pre-diabetes too.

Anonymous Sun Jun 14 02:55:48 2020 No.14243518

>>14243512
>One possible sign of prediabetes is darkened skin on certain parts of the body. Affected areas can include the neck, armpits, elbows, knees and knuckles. Classic signs and symptoms that suggest you've moved from prediabetes to type 2 diabetes include:

Increased thirst
Frequent urination
Excess hunger
Fatigue
Blurred vision

Aside from being hungry sometimes at night I dont have any other symptoms. Im also probably eating around 1000 calories a day at this point

Anonymous Sun Jun 14 03:13:31 2020 No.14243546

>>14243512
>Also OP says he's waking up in the middle of the night starving. You're right on the pre-diabetes too.
Simpler explanation would be low blood sugar from malnutrition. Inflammation in the GI tract gets in the way of good nutrition even when you're eating and people with Crohn's tend to eat fewer calories because eating leads to painful traffic against ulcerated guts.
In the hospital when they put you on TPN (total parenteral nutrition; bypasses the intestines and gives you calories and nutrition through a picc line in your arm) they monitor your blood sugar every 4 hours since that sort of fundamental emergency nutrition source is so high in sugar.
After a couple weeks of going through that (i.e. ~84 separate blood sugar tests) it hit 112 at its highest and was usually below 100 the rest of the time.
I've also been below 130lb at 5'11 my entire adult life into my 30s now. You can get diabetes while being malnourished and sick from bowel problems but it's probably not the first explanation you should leap to when the other explanation of malnutrition and low blood sugar is a lot more straightforward an explanation.
(I'm not OP, just throwing my two cents out there)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 14 11:43:56 2020 No.14244526 >>14240345 ive lost 15lbs since being sick, down to 132 5'9, its pretty easy to love food again once every little thing doesnt cause you extreme pain in the bathroom 2 hours later

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Anonymous Sun Jun 14 12:10:37 2020 No.14244607

>>14240345
The risks in the short term for people with serious chronic diseases not getting enough nutrition greatly overtakes the longer term risks of being overweight. Being underweight and malnourished can mean kidney failure and heart attacks for these people. Gaining too much weight on the other hand probably won't give them trouble until many years later and will also be the sort of trouble they have more time to take care of and reverse.
With sick people in general the underweight have a greater chance of dying than the overweight e.g. with cancer. It helps to have some extra fat stores when you're on your deathbed.
By analogy worrying about too much weight gain for someone with bad enough intestinal disease to have their colon surgically excised is like worrying about using too much water while trying to put out an apartment fire. Even with shit like schizophrenia doctors knowingly prescribe antipsychotics which will most likely lead to obesity and type 2 diabetes because it's considered better than the alternatives of no antipsychotics or older antipsychotics that produce even worse symptoms similar to Parkinson's Disease.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 14 13:14:01 2020 No.14244856 >>14217259 We seriously need a medical board sheerly for shit like this.

>>	The Pastor Sun Jun 14 13:14:58 2020 No.14244862 >>14240271 Who cares. She looks like a fun ride!

Anonymous Sun Jun 14 19:35:17 2020 No.14246357
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Outta curiosity, did any of you ever take accutane? I did when I was 16. I'm 28 now and for the last 4 years I've had mostly loose stool with the occasional normal poop and frequent ass piss.

I've mostly tried to ignore it and have eliminated most vices from my diet, no booze, no sweets aside from 10g dark chocolate every other day. Only thing I can't give up is my daily coffee.

I saw a gastroenwhatever and they did a colonoscopy and IBS diagnosis by exclusion and just threw anti-spazmodics (dicyclomine) at me that were useless.

But fuck, what do i do to not have my guts betray me more?

Anonymous Sun Jun 14 19:39:37 2020 No.14246386

>>14246357
>accutane
No, but most of the anons here are talking about IBD (inflammatory bowel disease), not IBS (irritable bowel syndrome). They're pretty different things normally unless you have IBD that's still extremely mild and not really happening in a noticeable way yet.
I think something like 15% of the population has an IBS diagnosis, so it's way more common and way less serious of a problem (again with the possible exception of IBD the doctor is failing to identify).

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 14 19:54:15 2020 No.14246445 >>14246386 Thanks for the sincere reply broski

Anonymous Sun Jun 14 19:59:43 2020 No.14246469

I’m not exactly sure what I have but for the past decade, I have had strong to severe constipation.., I broke my l4l5 disc and never got it fixed, this is in the sacral nerve area which has nerves running to organs, I thought it was this but dr said no... but he’s work comp doctor so his job is to keep costs down for insurance company. I was given hydro codine and tramadol and the constipation got very severe. I began chewing tobbacco to simulate a bowler movement and it’s kinda odd, but I had to take the pain pill and then dip and I would be able to go after about 30 minutes, but if I didn’t take the pill.. I couldn’t go... anyways I got off that trash and been taking Kratom ever since cuz I have spinal stenosis now and it’s same thing, if I don’t take kratom and then dip... I can’t go. I also have to chug tea before doing all this... but the constipation has been constant even tho i take two stool softeners daily and drink 2 big cups of smooth mouth tea, despite all this... I still have not loose stool. I also drink a whole gallon of water a day and my only diet is no breakfast or lunch and a big cup of yogurt for dinner with some non gluten kind oat mix, not very much but unsweetened yogurt is rough by its self... I will also eat a moderate sized amount of sunflower seeds... if I even try to eat something like a slice of pizza, a sandwich like pbj, fish, rice, etc... I get this strong bloat feeling and fatigue, I also get spasms in my guts in the past when I did this... very uncomfortable ones. I been o the emergency room twice and had xrays and cat scans and they said your just full of poop and gas... but this is when I was eating more then current diet. Anyone know what this could be? I had acid reflux as a teen and took Prilosec for like two years daily and I know that is a bad thing to do but faggot doctor said it was fine. I know it depletes magnesium and I have enough magnesium lately via seeds to replenish it. Thanks for consideration

Anonymous Sun Jun 14 20:12:07 2020 No.14246518

Is it possible to be so constipated that you actually give off an odor of shit? I have had probably about 75 people cough in front of me in a odd way and about at least a dozen people hold their tummy showing discomfort while having a convo with me? This is very odd and something I never experienced before until this problem started... I became convinced that I must because two separate people actually said it in front of me and one very nice woman reached out to me when I declined a job offer but didn’t tell her why, she told me that she had an Ostomy bag and I can’t figure out why anyone would say that unless she was hinting at me that she had this problem. I didn’t tell anyone I had this problem in that 8 year span and would just decline food in front of them. I’ve dropped to 125 pounds now at 32 years old at 6 feet tall.... does it sound likely that this was what was happening during this time

Anonymous Sun Jun 14 20:27:32 2020 No.14246608

>>14246518
Probably not an odor of shit from being constipated, but you could have bacterial infection problems when you're not processing out food effectively and bacteria is what cause most of the noticeable body odor people get.
With the coughing thing my guess is you do have body odor going on but that it's not shit they're smelling from you being constipated so much as just stronger instances of the same body odor homeless people or the disabled get when they're neglected and haven't bathed in a while.
If you're not doing this already try switching to two long showers a day with plenty of high power soap. And if you can continue to look for ways to clear out your constipation problem e.g. (caffeinated) coffee.

Anonymous Sun Jun 14 21:18:49 2020 No.14246900

>>14246608
I was on antibiotics like twice a year growing up for about eight years as I had severe cat allergies and mom didn't want to get rid of them, if I didn't take the antibiotics my sinus infections would always turn into bronchitis and that happened about twice a year and once it turned into pneumonia so I just kept taking the anabiotic's. I know that destroys good gut bacteria but how much damage approximately would that cause .

Anonymous Sun Jun 14 22:04:35 2020 No.14247126

>>14246900
The "good bacteria" thing is just a meme. It had a period a decade or two back where everyone thought it was the cause of everything and all those probiotic / prebiotic yogurts started hitting the market. But it never panned out when studies were done over the years to see how much it really helps compared to actual medical treatments.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 14 23:04:54 2020 No.14247372 >>14247126 so healthy cultures are just a meme?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 14 23:33:29 2020 No.14247488 >>14247126 So all the yogurt I have been eating is bullshit? What about kefir or kombucha

Anonymous Mon Jun 15 00:21:02 2020 No.14247670
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>>14247488
>So all the yogurt I have been eating is bullshit? What about kefir or kombucha
You tell me:
https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=3458723#gsc.tab=0
https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=4018790#gsc.tab=0

Anonymous Mon Jun 15 00:36:31 2020 No.14247751
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>>14247670
>https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=3458723#gsc.tab=0
>How I achieved remission
>When I was discharged because I refused surgery and they had no alternatives to offer me, I had to go home and figure this out.
>So here is what we came up with that eventually worked.
>#1 and most important is home made kefir. Milk kefir is superior, it contains about 35 species of probiotic bacteria in the trillions.
>The first time I took kefir I was advised to take only one tablespoon a day but I ignored this and drank half a cup. The herkxheimer (die off) reaction was extremely intense and I regret it. The next day I had full on bloody bowel movements, pain, urgency, fever and exhaustion... I was terrified my flare was re-intensifying. But after 2 days of this state, my health bounced back to being more improved than ever.
>https://www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=38&m=4018790#gsc.tab=0
>I am Joseph's (Chiron's) sister. He left his family with some internet contacts that he wanted us to let know if something happened to him.
>Two days after surgery he had a very high fever and doctors discovered he had something called peritonitis. The stitches where he had surgery had a lot of pus and when they tested the pus they found out he had MRSA and we were told it can be hard to treat. They treated him with more than one antibiotic. On the Monday he had acute kidney failure and they had to put him on dialysis. His pain was so high I can't begin to tell you.
>On Wednesday Joe had his first heart attack and they were able to save him. I wasn't there but my father was and he said it was the scariest 15 minutes of his life.
>The doctors said the infection had become serious so their plan was to open him up again and disinfect his insides directly. Joe was scared but he signed the papers. He just wanted the pain to stop.
>In surgery he had another heart attack and this time he could not be saved. He passed away on May 26 early morning around 2am.

Anonymous Mon Jun 15 03:24:27 2020 No.14248336
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>>14247670
God loves culling the weak
Tbqh I'm probably next

I'm glad I've seen other people's input in this thread, I had been going hard into the probiotics, but it doesn't look like they do much. FML

Anonymous Mon Jun 15 06:59:23 2020 No.14248793

>>14248336
Just see a doctor and don't immediately decide on sweeping conclusions like "I will never do surgery" or "biologics are too dangerous to use."
The stories of people getting really fucked up and dying tend to involve patients who went against medical advice in favor of some alternative nutrition based "cure" nonsense. Treat it like you would any other niche trade where the person working for you probably has a pretty decent idea of what they're doing compared to yourself or other people not working in that field. Medical school takes a while for a reason.
You can look at people like Steve Jobs who had too much money and power and ditched mainstream medicine in favor of retarded dietary cancer "cures" as an example of why not to do that. They get hauled off to the regular hospital they were avoiding in the end, only by that point they let things get much worse and the doctors involved in treatment will have a lot fewer viable options with much lower success rates and much greater chances of severe complications.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 10:12:11 2020 No.14249388 What the fuck is going on in this thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 12:56:58 2020 No.14249963 >>14249388 cuties with poop bags who will still live a normal life and get married despite everone wanting to kill thmeslves

Anonymous Mon Jun 15 13:10:49 2020 No.14250008

>>14248336
They do fuck all... I have spent thousands of dollars on probiotics, only ate yogurt, took deworming pills, parasite pills, weird teas, etc... the fucking government needs to have euthanasia clinics, I can’t explain in words the shame of living like this for ten years... ten fucking years, over 4000 days, I never thought growing up this could be this bad

>>	The Pastor Mon Jun 15 13:28:13 2020 No.14250070 >>14249388 Cutie Shit-bag gf's.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 13:28:40 2020 No.14250075 >>14250070 if you ever meet her Pastor let us know

>>	The Pastor Mon Jun 15 13:31:13 2020 No.14250084 >>14250075 I'm not really a Pastor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 14:44:33 2020 No.14250428 >>14214013 Slide the surgeon an extra fifty, say "hey dude if I just die on the table that would be okay by me if you get my drift" and wink. Works every time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 14:46:17 2020 No.14250435 >>14250084 its okay we all have our dreams dont give up

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 16:25:21 2020 No.14250953 >>14250070 >>14249388 This place is worse than Cracked

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 16:49:13 2020 No.14251085 File: 1.94 MB, 432x768, poo poo.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What's the recommended diet for not getting a poop bag?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 20:13:06 2020 No.14252092 File: 496 KB, 800x600, 35IPGii.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] #1 thread on the food and cooking board right now is "Shit2Stomach PoopTap" what a time to be alive

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 20:15:49 2020 No.14252106 >>14252092 People with intestinal problems have to deal with food issues. Not that much of a stretch if you think about it for a second.

>>	The Pastor Mon Jun 15 20:22:21 2020 No.14252133 >>14250953 How so? I didn't know I needed a Cutie Shitbag gf until this thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 20:26:59 2020 No.14252157 >>14252106 its just funny because it's probably the most useful thread on /ck/ for months

Anonymous Mon Jun 15 20:34:55 2020 No.14252195

>>14250428
>Slide the surgeon an extra fifty, say "hey dude if I just die on the table that would be okay by me if you get my drift" and wink. Works every time.
Surgeons never do that (they care way too much about maintaining their track record for minimal deaths).
A long time family doctor on the other hand might go along with giving you enough morphine to kill yourself while in a hospital. It's *somewhat* legally condoned in fact (in the US anyway) under the doctrine of double effect where it's understood pain medicine needed to keep someone from suffering an inordinate amount and already dying from a terminal disease can have the secondary effect of also killing them, and it's not the same as assisted suicide if a patient dies as a consequence of pain medicine that was reasonably necessary for non-euthanasia / pain control purposes.
Even more likely than your family doctor would be a hospice. Hospices are designed for ceasing medical treatments that try to combat your terminal disease and focusing instead on keeping you as comfortable as possible while you die over the next few months or however long you have left.
About half of the US hospices out there will both know full well you want to be given assisted suicide with morphine and will be willing to do that for you (again under the guise of double effect to cover their asses).
All of them probably know this agenda exists, but the other half of them who don't do this might be too uptight about following the letter of the law or might overestimate their ability to provide you a comfortable existence no matter how sick and in pain you get before dying a natural death.
Anyway, your best bet is to not be an autist and not say on the nose shit like "can you help me commit suicide?" Treat it like a high school drug deal and don't give them reasons to be paranoid. Use euphemisms / read between the lines questions like "when the time comes can you make sure we do *whatever it takes* to treat my suffering?"

Anonymous Mon Jun 15 21:43:19 2020 No.14252526

>>14213898
I dont really get the whole poo bag thing? When you change it over does shit come out of the hole in your gut? Does it more convenient that having to shit? Do you still get like violent shits if you eat too much mexican food and fill the bag instantly?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 22:40:43 2020 No.14252804 >>14246357 Fuck man I had my whole colon removed, with an ileostomy now. my GI doc told me it was probably accutane that caused it

Anonymous Mon Jun 15 22:43:24 2020 No.14252819

>>14252526
Yes I can’t fucking control it. 1-8 months post op it would squirt shit at least 2 yards with force making it hard af to change. Sometimes if I took an extended release pill with a coating on it, the pill would launch out and shatter on the mirror

Anonymous Mon Jun 15 22:49:54 2020 No.14252860

>>14252526
>When you change it over does shit come out of the hole in your gut?
All an ostomy amounts to is a piece of your intestine cut off and pulled through your abdomen. Inside your abdomen your intestines are almost constantly moving bile, digestive enzymes, digested waste, etc. You just don't notice it until your colon fills up enough that you feel the need to take a shit.
With an ostomy instead the shit is just nearly always flowing out in much smaller amounts, kind of in a pulsing pattern. You don't ever voluntarily make shit come out of an ostomy stoma. It just drains into the bag until it gets full enough that you decide to dump the contents in a toilet.
>more convenient
It's not for convenience. It's because you have cancer or an autoimmune disease that ulcerated and tore apart your large intestines the point where they need to be taken out.
Some people just get a temporary ostomy at that point before switching over to having some spare small intestine looped around and attached to the anus to replace the large intestine, and for those people they would end up shitting voluntarily out the ass again.
But for others their disease would just keep recurring in whichever new length of intestine you used to replace the old one, so instead they do a permanent ostomy to allow shit to drain without having the inflammation associated with defecation. It's kind of like staying off a broken leg instead of trying to walk around on one.

Anonymous Mon Jun 15 22:49:54 2020 No.14252861

>>14213898
I’m 25, married with two kids and have an ileostomy. You’re going to want to buy yourself a god damn stealth belt. I pretty much do everything most people can except for high contact sports. Sex is weird now I just have a black belt strapped across my abdomen. I eat whatever the fuck I want including spicy food and popcorn.
It still sucks major ass anon. At one point I told myself I would rather be deaf then have the ostomy. You cant go on long car drives or on long walks or anywhere without a bathroom nearby. Emptying the bag is a miserable pain in the ass. And you’ll still have bloody mucus pouring out of your anus every now and then, and you DO NOT EVER FART ANYMORE

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 22:53:02 2020 No.14252881 >>14252861 >At one point I told myself I would rather be deaf then have the ostomy. Woah, what do you have against deaf people you jerk? Just because you got rid of your asshole doesn't mean you have to become an asshole to replace it bro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 23:38:50 2020 No.14253105 >>14252881 If you cant fart you might as well be deaf

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 23:45:31 2020 No.14253135 >>14213898 I really wanna see pic related tits. She seems like she's be an enthusiastic cock sucker, doody bag or not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jun 15 23:57:33 2020 No.14253181 >>14213898 Imagine sipping on her bag like a Capri Sun

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 16 00:03:16 2020 No.14253208 >>14253135 i think the closest we'll get is >>14221530

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Anonymous Tue Jun 16 00:11:37 2020 No.14253238

>>14252526
as you get used to the output, youll know when are good times to change the bag, it doesnt flow out of you like faucet all the time. like >>14252860
said. it comes in waves and when the bag is full you empty it from the bottom and go about your day.
you can get a temporary bypass or a full colon removal where they sew up the anus. see >>14239956

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 16 00:32:01 2020 No.14253313 >>14253238 Do you empty the bag rather than change it?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 16 03:03:15 2020 No.14253724 >>14252195 >not be an autist I think the post you are replying to was just a joke. I think.

Anonymous Tue Jun 16 04:09:06 2020 No.14253852

>>14213898
I say this shit unironically and I hope even one person listens , I was on every med from sulphurs to steroids to humira and nothing ever worked ( severe UC ) I've taken 5g kratom in the am and 3g kratom at night and I've been symptom free for years. I eat regular shit now and gained the weight back, it took months for the pain to subside but it eventually healed and stopped

Give the shit a try, what do you have to lose?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 16 04:20:19 2020 No.14253863 >>14253852 can you give some more info? i looked up kratom and theres a ton of choices and pills and powders. what did you take? https://kratomspot.com/kratom-categories/

Anonymous Tue Jun 16 04:26:53 2020 No.14253880

>>14253863
All kratom is an anti diahreal (spelling?) Or whatever. I use red maeng da, it's the most opiate-like and if you keep at doses I mentioned it's only a mild stimulant , anyone in our condition knows how hard it can be to even get out of bed to do anything but use the bathroom so I found this the most useful, I'm not sure if we can post websites but I use one of the oldest ( and top links on Google ) when you search for kratom powders. With low doses ( or just one that works for you ) it can be as low as 60$ for a kilo which lasts me months. I'm not shilling either, the shit saved my life.

I found a UC / Crohn's board years ago and the only consensus among anyone on treatment was to use kratom to control symptoms, that board has since banned the ability for anyone to talk about it citing that kratom was due to be put on the cobtrolled substances schedule 1 in 2016 but it never happened.

I hope you guys try it and it works for you, I'm genuinely not fucking around when I say I think I'd be dead today without it, I was pissing blood 3 years ago and now I eat enchiladas once a week

Anonymous Tue Jun 16 09:06:18 2020 No.14254405

>>14213898
I had acute food poisoning in February 2019. A week or so after it happened I started to feel nausea, bloat and heartburn almost constantly. I lost 10 kilos in 3 months, with continuing heartburn and upset stomach. After tons of tests at the hospital, stool, blood, endoscopy, colonoscopy, ultrasound, no one has found diddly squat. The tests all find nothing and I am completely healthy. But despite this, I get diahrea about every 3 or 4 days, constipation, pains in my colon. It happens regardless of the meals I eat, sometimes one meal is fine and then the very same meal another day gives me problems. The Gf thinks its long term e choli poisoning that evaded discovery in the endoscopy since they can live in tiny scars in the stomach lining or something.

Any ideas of what else it might be? Im terrified of it being crohns. I dont really get any stomach pain during flare ups, just that nasty uncomfortable feeling when youre about to have a really runny shit + a general feelign of nausea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 16 10:00:23 2020 No.14254625 >>14254405 H pylori

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 16 10:06:51 2020 No.14254667 >>14253880 >I'm not sure if we can post websites but I use one of the oldest ( and top links on Google ) when you search for kratom powders. It's 4chan. You can post links. Are you talking about Kraken Kratom?

Anonymous Tue Jun 16 10:16:20 2020 No.14254713

>>14253880
I believe you. After I had my proctocolectomy and ileoanal anastamosis to replace it with looped around small intestine ("j-pouch," but I try not to call it that because it just confuses normies who think "pouch" means ostomy bag when it's actually an internal loop of small intestine) I found the only time I felt symptom free and able to eat whatever I want without needing to use the bathroom every two seconds was when I was on the percocets they gave me post-surgery.
But when I mentioned that the doctor didn't like the idea because it's "habit forming." Which yeah, no shit it'd be habit forming. It works, so you would keep taking it. But doctors are on edge about recreational opioid abuse, much more so today than back then even. And while I got more refills of it I stopped asking for it because I didn't feel like needing to argue with the doctor every few months to reup for something he clearly saw as temporary sooner or later (which makes no sense since it isn't a temporary problem it's fixing).

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 16 11:12:16 2020 No.14254921 >>14254667 I use yokratom - never had a quality or shipping issue and it's 60$ for 5 months of meds basically

>>	Anonymous Tue Jun 16 12:18:02 2020 No.14255181 >>14254625 >H pylori could that cause mucusy diahrea?

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