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What did you think about having wet markets in the West? I kind of admire not being reliant on a refrigerated supply chain.

>> No.14075733

How do you define a Wet Market?

The West have and always had wet markets. I dont know about USA, but they are very common on south and celtral America, and they exist all across Europe as well.

>> No.14075770

>>14075733
In the US there are some fish markets but its about as close as we get to having livestock slaughtered fresh for you.

>> No.14075774

That image is making me shake. Imagine what kind of germs and bacteria linger on that meat, never mind the cruelty the animal suffered before being slaughtered.

>> No.14075784

>>14075774
I wonder if they have vegans in Egypt?

>> No.14075806

>same meat as we have now
>but it will go bad much faster due to lack of refrigeration

why exactly would i want this?

>> No.14075833

>>14075806
>chlorinated chickens
Why would I want this?

>> No.14075837

>>14075770
In South America, you can go to the nearby open market (feiras livres) - there are dozen in my town alone - and choose a live chicken, duck or even small mammals (like rabbits or goats). And the vendor will kill, clean and butcher the animal.

If is a chiken or rabbit they probably do it in the spot, goats and pigs are broght to a nearby slaughterhouse because they have to bleed out for considerable amout of time.

>> No.14075841

>>14075628
Imagine all the flies

>> No.14075851

>>14075806
The meat actually taste better. Were I live meat on supermarket is actually cheaper than the meat sell in wet markets.

>> No.14075857
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The US could not get fresh meat to market without refrigeration. It is not a disaster proof system.

>> No.14075863

I don't want Covid-20

>> No.14075934

>>14075863
Im not talking about selling bats. Why can't I buy fresh meat locally?

>> No.14075945

>>14075851
The meat probably tastes better due to how its raised not how it's butchered

>> No.14075949

>>14075934
You can--go to a farmer's market
and if you live in a small town, ask a nearby farmer

>> No.14075952

>>14075949
>farmer's market
The name is misleading. Often they are no different than the people that sell oranges next to the road.

>> No.14075954

>>14075952
Then you're going to the wrong farmers markets--again, if you live in a small town, go to a farmer

>> No.14075973
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>>14075954
>if you live in a small tow
I don't. No butcher shops. The only bakeries we have make cakes not bread.

>> No.14075975

>>14075945
Agreed. The animals are raised more "free" with means more exercise and a less stressful life. Their diet is more rich and varied.

>> No.14075995

>>14075973
then youre probably fucked, theres two butchers within five minutes of my house, not to metnion a farmer's market every week in the spring/summer (at least when theres no corony), and local farms about 45-90 minutes away

>> No.14076000

>>14075733
>the west
>central and south america
Fucking lost

>> No.14076006

>>14076000
>Western language
>Western religion
>Western genetics
>In the actual geographic West
Fuck off.

>> No.14076180

>>14075628
TMZ tried to hype up the "discovery" of wet markets in California but nobody gave a shit. They exist, they're just too much of a hassle to operate for them to be popular business-wise when supermarket meat is cheap and plentiful.

>> No.14076225

I live in Philadelphia. There are a few small wet markets here dealing mostly with chickens and occasionally ducks and rabbits. One also sells pigeons. There're also two small abattoirs. One is mostly for Arabs and general Muzzies and the other is mostly for Mexicans and generally 'spanics. From either, you can make rather large orders of meat, like entire beef quarters or a side of lamb or a whole fucking goat to roast.
The wet markets are all Chinese owned and fucking reek. They inexplicably smell of fish. How the fuck a place that slaughters chickens winds up smelling of fish I'll never know. They're also dirty/poorly maintained, so another thing I'll never know is how in the fuck health and safety/licensing and inspection have never gotten around to shutting any of them down.
I have no problem with either abattoir because they're both cleanly and because I'm from a country which has wet markets/abattoir shops, anyway.

>> No.14076229

>>14076180
>wet markets in California
Where? Like the fish counter at 99 Ranch?

>> No.14076247

>>14076229
Look it up (yourself)(yourself)(yourself)(yourself).
They may be called 'live markets' or 'abattoirs' where you are, but trust me that they exist.

>> No.14076261

>>14076006
Central/South America was colonized by Spain and Portugal both of which are not considered The West philosophically due to the Umayyad Caliphate. read a book retard.

>> No.14076270

>>14076261
but that's wrong, nigger

>> No.14076274

>>14076229
Ranch 99 has a decent bakery. Their fresh meat leaves a little to be desired.

>> No.14076279

The whole idea of live markets being some kind of evil was more of an animal rights thing before but now the concept's scaring even people who care less about that just because of all the Wuhan publicity. But when the reality is just typical farm animals and not wild animals, it's nothing new and nothing scary. Keeping an animal alive until it's time to kill it and sell it is what farmers have been doing since forever.

>> No.14076284

>>14076247
>abattoirs
is a slaughterhouse

>> No.14076296

Depends what you mean by wet markets, on-site slaughter isn't necessarily a prerequisite. Food markets like the Adelaide Central Markets or the food side of Queen Victoria Markets in Melbourne count.

I live in the country so my local butcher does slaughtering on their premises and on site with their truck, and they're a really damn good butcher.

>> No.14076303

>>14076284
Yes and no. Unlike slaughterhouses, they tend to be small/independent and they sell to the public directly but they're otherwise identical, yes.

>> No.14076369

>>14076303
>and they sell to the public directly
i know here in the uk the meat has to reach refrigerator temp before it can legally leave & the problem with Chinese wet markets is different living animals in close proximity in the street

>> No.14076414

>>14076369
>the problem with Chinese wet markets is different living animals in close proximity in the street
This
There are caged animals on top of other caged animals on top of other caged animals, all of different species
Feces from the top cages rains down on the lower cages and is consumed by the animals in the lower cages
This leads to disease outbreaks, which China is famous for

>> No.14076418

>>14076274
I like their hot food court for the hargow and noodles swimming in MSG broth

>> No.14076439
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14076439

>people actually trying to imply that western countries don't sell fresh meat at markets

>> No.14076524

>>14076439
>chlorinated chickens
>nitrate beef to make it look red
>"fresh"

>> No.14076536

>>14076247
>Look it up (yourself)
I read that in a Filipino accent.

I search around LA, Farmer John and Cargill show up. These are not small shops.

>> No.14076577

>>14076261
lmao what

>> No.14076590

>>14075628
no

>> No.14076604

>>14075628
>hanging fucking meat in the air free to be coated in dirt, hair, disease, and general filth, literally no sanitation standards, nonexistant humane butchery methods, literally an antithesis of civilization
Why the fuck would anyone want this? This is the worst place to get meat of any kind. I'd literally rather eat roadkill.

>> No.14076617

>>14076279
Lighting it on fire with a blowtorch, boiling it alive, chopping its limbs off while its fully conscious and feeling, etc however, is not something people have done since forever. China must be purged, its civilians should be roundly executed, and the women and children sold into slavery.

>> No.14076633

>>14075863
Best comment of the day

>> No.14076634

>>14076617
>printed this post
>highlighted parts about murdering humans
>put in folder labeled "animal rights nut"
>threw folder in the garbage and ate a fucking steak

>> No.14076637

>>14075628
Yeah! Because fuck industrial refrigeration!

>> No.14076638

>>14076604
>I'd literally rather eat roadkill.
>worries about dirt

>> No.14076640

>>14076261
Are you retarded?

>> No.14076643

>>14076261
hang yourself

>> No.14076647

>>14076006
The West basically means advanced white countries.
Western Europe, US, UK, Canada, Australia and NZ.

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>>14076637
Well we have seen what supply interruptions in the US look like for the first time in anyone's lifetime. If there was to be a wide and lasting disruption to electricity there would be no way to get fresh meat to market.

>> No.14076670

>>14076274
>Ranch 99
I remember one time as a kid I went with my dad to grab some fish among other things. there was a vietnamese butcher working behind the fish counter. he didn't speak a lick of english and was doing that immigrant worker thing where he made an effort to speak mostly with his hands and point. my dad went ahead and started speaking gibberish in a vietnamese accent, like just flat out racist shit. "uhhh-duh ching chong tong" but like the fucking ownagepranks Buk Lau voice. My dad immigrated from India too, so imagine a man pretending to speak vietnamese gibberish through an indian accent.
the vietnamese butcher somehow knew exactly what to do and smiled and went ahead and got us all our meat tickety tuck. I feel nostalgic thinking about Ranch 99

>> No.14076677

>>14076270
>>14076577
>>14076640
>>14076643

Africa begins at the Pyrenees

>> No.14076679

You can find a local ranch or farm and many will clean the animal into rough cuts for you or a mobile butcher/ local butcher would do it for you too. Wet markets are fine as long as they are clean and don’t have wild and domestic animals mixing like garbage chine. If you go to Mexico or South America they are still common but they just have farm animals and maybe one snake guy selling snake skin but people don’t eat that unless they are starving lol that’s for boots and wallets

>> No.14076681

>>14076634
The chinese are degenerate slime, to contradict this fact is to deny reality. They should be treated as the chaff slave creatures they were always meant to be.

>> No.14076683

>>14076638
At least with roadkill, if its on a paved road, it probably wont have much dirt on it. The 10,000 people who go through a Chink wet market a day would kick up filth from all over Chinkland, I'd rather l

>> No.14076692

>>14076681
OK, but at least let me be equally as much of an asshole to the animals I'm about to eat

>> No.14076696

>>14076229
>>14076274
Ayy other sac area dudes on /ck/ wow small world

>> No.14076706

There is nothing wrong with fresh markets, the issue is when the chinks have crates of chickens stacked on top of each other that shit on each other, only to by beheaded on a plywood board next to the vegetables.

>> No.14076707

>>14076696
Nah we got them down in 626 also.

>> No.14076711

>>14076706
Well as long as there are no bats.

>> No.14076725

>>14076696
Except they're everywhere, saccy

>> No.14076736

>>14076696
im from west san jose which is literal chinkistan and we have at least 5 in the san jose metro area

>> No.14076739

>>14076736
Is it the porn chinos or do they all drive BMW and Tesla?

>> No.14076748

>>14076739
>porn chinos
what?
Its more like Toyota Sienna's and Teslas and Mercedes

>> No.14076779

>>14076692
Its a reactionary thing. The chinese wouldn't need to be bloodily destroyed if they weren't so objectively evil. Anyone who tortures animals to death deserves to be strung up by their entrails while they still draw breath.

>> No.14076794

>>14076779
There you go justifying your placement in the special garbage folder again

>> No.14076798

>>14076725
>>14076736
Oh nevermind lol I always go to south East Asian markets instead anyways that’s why I have no idea

>> No.14076824

>>14076229
China towns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia-0kjhd2Z0

>> No.14076873

>>14076824
>restaurantfag entering and pissing into a stranger's food truck
murrica

>>14076229
The one TMZ tried exposing was a halal live butcher storing chickens stacked on top of each other in cages, and they tried using "shocking" shots of chicken heads and feet

>> No.14076895

>>14076006
>western genetics
Ehh...

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>>14075628
don't need a market to tell me what I can eat
also i don't trust markets
too many web-em's maybe...

>> No.14076933

>>14076873
>TMZ
>halal butcher
Am I cynical to think the reason they covered that is because Harvey is a jew?

>> No.14076955

>>14076824
Eh, the frog was the strangest thing they could find and I've seen those live at Asian supermarkets. That one shiteater looked so giddy at the chance to smack his new purchases to death.

>> No.14077338

>>14076536
In .38 seconds, Google found Crescent, Exposition (wtf kinda name is that for a live market) and Farmer Tran. I'd say you're not trying hard enough, but the reality is you're not trying at all, faggot.

>> No.14077348

>>14076536
>I read that in a Filipino accent.
why?

>> No.14077351

>>14075628
Wet markets are everywhere in the world. The problem is the exotic meat wet markets.

>> No.14078150

>>14075628
there's live slaughter places in NYC

>> No.14078226
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>>14075628
we have it in sicily

>> No.14078275

>>14078226
Well, you tell me what "the West" means to you

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>>14076006
>>Western genetics

Go to Peru and tell me that.

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ITT: FUCKING RETARDS

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>>14078332
Bro, peruvians are pure aryan genetic stock.

>> No.14078406

>>14076824
>DHUUUDE WHY DON'T THESE SLANT EYES WANT US TO SHOVE A CAMERA IN THEIR FACES AS THEY GO ABOUT THEIR WORK HYUCK HYUCK HYUCK
God I hate tourists.

>> No.14078457

>>14078406
Everyone hates tourists but even more people hate chinks.

>> No.14078465
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>>14078457
They're not exclusive.

>> No.14078569

>>14075628
uhhhhh go to a fucking butchers

>> No.14078620

>>14075774
>humane slaughter

Faggot detected. You are right on the germs and disease.

>> No.14078627

>>14075628
I'm a fan of the idea of freshest meat possible, but it's gotta have some sanitary measures in mind, lest we end up like China having a flu originate in them a few times a century.

>> No.14078637

>>14075934
You can if you live near a rural area, I had a friend who went to a lamb farm and the guy let him kill the sheep and then taught him how to gut/clean it and to butcher it. He regularly goes there now and gets fresh lamb.

>> No.14078913

>>14076261
Greece and Sicily were also under muslim rule for centuries.

>> No.14079891

>>14075973
Is that...a photo from just outside the gate to Lackland JBSA?

>> No.14079966

>>14078620
Why would you want animals to suffer needlessly?

>> No.14079992

>>14076261
Yes but none of the conquistadors were Muslim

>> No.14079995

would the bangladeshi halal meat shop a couple miles from me count? is a wet market determined by how fresh the food is? or is it determined by the local sourcing of that food
either way those bangladeshis know their meats

>> No.14080518
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14080518

Why you faggots are discussing genetics in a thread about meat?

The OP said "West", do you retards have a least a elementary understanding of geography? Do you ever looked a fucking map in your pathetic lives?

>> No.14080592

For people that don't understand why having a supply chain of food that don't necessary depends on refrigeration it's important:

1. IIt is important for the self-sustainability of a region, if shit happens and society collapse a region can feed your population without drastic and abrupt changes in the diet of he's population.

2. Unrefrigerated food help to build your immune system. he best way to make your organism familiarized with pathogens is with your gut, because cooking your food will kill most of them and the wicked ones who survive will be decimated by your digestive system.

3. Food, especially meat, loses flavor and tenderness when frozen.

>> No.14080712

>>14080518
based flat earther anon demonstrating his cognitive dissonance by including oceania

>> No.14080722

>>14080518
This map is hilarious. Saved for future trolling.

>> No.14080733

"Berlin is west of London" is a true statement

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>>14080712
>Australia is not a Western country boys!

>> No.14080832

>>14080782
you have a great smile there kiddo, but if you only understood part of the post you shouldn't pretend you understood the whole thing

>> No.14080887
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>>14080832
> YoU oNlY UnDeRsToDd pArT oF ThE PoSt
> dOnT pReTEnd yOU UndesToD mE
> i'M sUcH a pReTeNtIoUs fUcK

>> No.14081040

>>14075628
It will reduce your faggotry by 2%, Its good

>> No.14081065
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>>14076006
>Western genetics
Hold still ironic poster

>> No.14081076

>>14080518
>including Brazil and not Poland, Hungary or any of the legitimately culturally Western cuntries

>> No.14081195

>former Warsaw Pact countries
>want to be included in "The West"
lol no

>> No.14081650

>>14075934
have you tried finding a rancher or butcher?

>> No.14082707

>>14076279
The chinese can even eat all the wild turtles or snakes they want. It seems like it's just too much to ask for wild mammals to not be sold at wet markets, since if even a penny can be made theyll be snapping up all the local civets and raccoon dogs to slaughter and sell

>> No.14082841

>>14079966
The anxiety of their impending death sweetens the meat. You'd knew that if you weren't a pussy.
>>14075774
>>14075628
absolutely nothing wrong with that image
humans have been accidentally eating flies and random bacteria since they started hunting, we'll surely survive.

>> No.14082867

People do this in third world countries and ghettos because they're too poor to afford buildings or modern sanitation practices and consumers can't afford or don't have access to better.
Civilized places don't do this anymore for the same reason we don't use iceboxes. We invented better ways and going back offers no benefit at all.
Worshipping squalor and regression is hipster retardation.

>> No.14082877

>>14080592
Why do you think meat needs to be refrigerated?
The germs are already on it/in the air around you. More germs isn't better, we don't give vaccines by the gallon do we? Your immune system doesn't learn anything more by letting your food fester in filthy conditions on purpose, but you might learn something when you get salmonella poisoning

>> No.14082947

>>14076261
Correct
>>14076270
>>14076577
>>14076640
>>14076643
Seethe Juan

>> No.14082995

>>14076006
This is why "East and West" are a poor categorisation, global North/ global South is much better.

>> No.14083833

>>14082877
I wont get salmonella because I know how to prepare my food. If you think that you are free from infections because you live in a hyper-sanitized environment, think again stupid.

More germs (more diversity) IS better, we don't give vaccines by the gallon, no. But a vaccine only boost your immune system against one kind of germ, and this is why will take several of them. You really think that the germs in the air you breath are the same that lives on food?

Data shows that exposure to germs helps the immune system develop resistance to infections and allergic diseases and hyper-hygiene is actually harmful to your health.

I'm not "letting my food fester in filthy conditions". It is perfectly normal and natural conditions, you fuck. The food you eat is sterilized by chemicals to look, and smell "better" because you are such a pussy that thinks that is necessary to your health to live in a sanitized bubble, and the mere sight of normal (and clean) food is disgusting to you.

And white people wonder why they are getting replaced. Is because you are fucking weak! You are such dependent of a welfare society that when it collapse you will be as aliens trying to survive in another planet.

>> No.14084126

>>14081076
1) slav(e)s have nothing in common with western democracies or culture

2) slav(e)s are not white