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Why did Americans stop frying their McDonalds apple pies?

>> No.13688514

>>13688511

Some woman dropped a hot pie in her lap and it burned her, and she sued for like 6 million dollars.

>> No.13688530

>>13688514
You bake them now, right? Why the switch?

>> No.13688536

>>13688514
women are fucking dumb

>> No.13688539

>>13688536
women ruin everything. fuck 'em, right in the pussy!

>> No.13688580

>>13688514
If a woman drop a portion of french fries, will they start baking them?

>> No.13688593

>>13688514
That was coffee, and they just lowered the temperature they hold the coffee at.

>> No.13688594

>>13688511
fat hysteria probably

same thing with the beef fat fries

>> No.13688603

>>13688594
Euros still fry their pies, you'd think they'd be baking it.

>> No.13688604

>>13688514
that was coffee, and it gave her second degree burns

>> No.13688606

>>13688603
nah we don't have a problem with high fat foods
we are just smart enough not to eat ten of them every day

>> No.13688607

>>13688514
I think you're thinking of the woman who got 3rd degree burns from McDonald's coffee.

>> No.13688629

>>13688607
How hot was the coffee, 800 degrees?

>> No.13688632

>>13688629
dont look up the pictures thats all ill say

>> No.13688633

>>13688629
210F

>> No.13688776

>>13688511
A poor attempt at being health conscious, ignoring the fact that if you cared about health you wouldn't be eating at McDonalds in the first place.

>> No.13689096

>>13688530
I worked there 16 years ago and we baked them then.

>> No.13689111

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2470792/Stella-Liebecks-hot-coffee-McDonalds-lawsuit-The-truth.html

how the fuck do you burn 16% of your body with a cup of coffee accidentally? was she trying to bathe in it?

>> No.13689112

>>13688514
That was coffee and what makes you think frying over baking would cause the pies to be that significantly different in temperature? They would still cook it to the same internal temp and serve it at the same temp. I bet you’re a zoomer. Only a zoomer could be this fucktarded.

>> No.13689129

>>13688511
do americans really eat this?

>> No.13689137

>>13689111
iirc shitty lids that splashed everywhere when you tried to take them off and she wasn't the only person to get burned

>> No.13689143

>>13688511
It's quicker for us to just grab them in the drive thru and then use our in-car friers.

>> No.13689181

>>13688629
She was like 75 poor lady. Her minge got melted shut needed surgery

>> No.13689189

>>13688514
Americans are so intelligent

>> No.13689193

>>13688629
Mcdonalds coffee is still served at a hot as fuck temperature such that you can't even bring it to your lips for at least 5 minutes

>> No.13689196

>>13689129
personally I have never in my life heard someone mention mcdonald's apple pie IRL

I think it's one of those secret super obese people items

>> No.13689198

>>13689193
Literally all coffee is served really hot, dumb baby zoom zoom.

>> No.13689282

>>13689111
You know if it was intentional she would have tried to get them to only pay for the medical expenses before.

Its all really sad how the media treated her after everything it wasn't until a good while after she died that people actually really paid attention to her side.

>> No.13689284

>>13688514
You're probably thinking of that woman who got 4th degree burns from dropping a coffee

>> No.13689332

>why do Americans bake their pies?
We are at full obsession right now. Pies are supposed to be baked

>> No.13689349
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13689349

>>13689332
The Yankee does not understand and fears the apple turnover

>> No.13689390

>>13688511
My try: why fry pie, guy?

>> No.13689492

>>13688511
We still fry them here in Bongland

>> No.13689505

>>13689198
Sounds like all coffee is for retards with scar-tissue in the place where their tongue used to be.

>> No.13689519

>>13689111
>how the fuck do you burn 16% of your body with a cup of coffee accidentally? was she trying to bathe in it?
I think she said she had the cup of coffee between her legs while riding in a car because there was no cup holder, but then she took the lid off to put milk or sugar in it or something which is when it spilled. It was a dumb idea to hold a hot beverage between your legs then take the lid off, but apparently McDonald's had already gotten a lot of complaints about the temperature they kept their coffee at and if they had done something about it earlier she wouldn't have been burned so badly.

>> No.13689534

>>13689332
McD's used to fry them, your move.

>> No.13689545

>>13689519
how hot is this fucking coffee? it's not molten lava

>> No.13689557

>>13689545
>During the case, Liebeck's attorneys discovered that McDonald's required franchisees to hold coffee at 180–190 °F (82–88 °C). Liebeck's attorney argued that coffee should never be served hotter than 140 °F (60 °C), and that a number of other establishments served coffee at a substantially lower temperature than McDonald's. They presented evidence that coffee they had tested all over the city was all served at a temperature at least 20°F (11°C) lower than what McDonald's served. Liebeck's lawyers also presented the jury with expert testimony that 190 °F (88 °C) coffee may produce third-degree burns (where skin grafting is necessary) in about 3 seconds and 180 °F (82 °C) coffee may produce such burns in about 12 to 15 seconds.[2] Lowering the temperature to 160 °F (71 °C) would increase the time for the coffee to produce such a burn to 20 seconds.

>> No.13689596

>>13689557
This is kiddyshit, you want your water at 100 degrees celsius before you add coffee. The coffee literally needs to rise like molten rock. This granny was just too old for coffee, should've gotten prune juice or something.

>> No.13689604

>>13689596
>you want your water at 100 degrees celsius before you add coffee
For brewing yeah, but they were holding the coffee at that temperature for serving. Nobody is actually drinking coffee when it's still that hot. The jury did say she was partially at fault since she still opened a hot beverage between her legs though.

>> No.13689609

>>13688514
You're thinking about the gal who dropped a coffee on her stomach and got 5th degree burns

>> No.13689618

>>13688511
They did? Man, feels good to be a yuro.

>> No.13689633

>>13688514
>elderly woman spills coffee and gets burned so badly she needed surgery
>only wanted mcdonalds to cover medical costs, nothing else
>lawyer pushes for more
>every single news outlet spins the story as "LOL CRAZY OLD LADY SUES MCDONALDS FOR MILLIONS BECAUSE SHE SPILLED HER COFFEE!"

Guess that's what happens when you let corporations control the media

>> No.13689650

>>13689604
You don't get it, you brew and serve, by the time it drops like 20 degrees. It's just how coffee works. The woman drank coffee for 60 years and didn't know this. It's just fresh coffee.

>> No.13689664

>>13689618
According to sources (and with that I mean the soyboys Rhett and Link) they started baking them in the 90s.

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13689689

>>13689664
How about the other pies like strawberry- cream cheese do they have those?

>> No.13689709

>>13688511
i like mcdonalds precisely because they dont deep fry their apple pies
Harvey's deep-fried apple pies were gross

>> No.13689733

>>13689689
Probably, idk. They just spoke about apple pies and compared fried vs. baked. Said the baked ones are trash.

>> No.13689810

>>13689650
You fucking retard. They found that McDonalds KEPT THE COFFEE HEATED, AFTER it was done brewing, at 190 degrees.

>> No.13689822

>>13688594
>same thing with the beef fat fries
No, that was filthy vegans bitching at McDonalds because "hurr durr we want vegan food!!!! There is no Reason why you should add meat to fires, huurd durd duuuuur!!!!"

Vegans ruin EVERYTHING!

>> No.13689823

>>13689650
>you brew and serve, by the time it drops like 20 degrees
170F coffee is still too hot to drink for most people, I would imagine. Most food is kept at 140F to keep it hot, so I can't see why you'd keep coffee at 190F. Keeping it 160F might be more suitable since most people want milk added, which might bring it down to a drinkable temperature.

>> No.13689828

>>13689810
>kept the coffee heated
Imagine the situation
>brew fresh coffee
>give it to customer right away
Wow

>> No.13689830

>>13689822
What's funny about that is McDonald's added beef flavoring to the fry seasoning, so it still wasn't vegan.

>> No.13689842

>>13689830
>What's funny about that is McDonald's added beef flavoring to the fry seasoning, so it still wasn't vegan.
Yeah, until vegans bitched harder and made them remove it, now their fries taste bland and shitty.

>> No.13690197

>>13689633
yeah I don't really understand that shit, I would jump at the chance to have McDonalds pay me out millions whether legit or not, anyone would, they can fucking afford it.

>> No.13690210
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13690210

I tried one of these in Singapore, shit was fucking disgusting what is wrong with asian people

>> No.13690217

>>13689633
Her fucking vagina got fused to her inner thigh.
It infuriates me that people still joke about that.

>> No.13690233

>>13689545
>how hot is this fucking coffee?
It was apparently hot enough to require reconstructive plastic surgery on her vagina.

>> No.13690595

>>13688511

Theyve been fucking gross for years. You have to go to popeyes or checkers/rallys for apple pies now.

>> No.13690614

>>13690217
What kind of retarded old whore doesn't know to avoid spilling fresh coffee on yourself because it could be BOILING HOT!

>> No.13690620

>>13690233
She was probably just some old roastie with nasty beef curtains she wanted tripped on McD's dime.

>> No.13690838

>>13689189
Especially compared to you, considering several people on here already commented that the post was incorrect you dumbfuck

>> No.13690888

>>13689842
that's literally wrong, they still aren't vegan

Sokolof waged a war against saturated fat during the fat obsession of the 80s/90s and got it removed

they still use beef powder to make it taste like the old version

>> No.13690903

>>13688514
Actually that lady spilled coffee in her lap and got 6th degree burns

>> No.13690905

>>13690614
To be fair, it used to be retardedly hot and served in a styrofoam cup. You couldn't drink it for 45 minutes without scalding your throat hole. Old niggers loved it.

>> No.13690909

>>13688514
No, that was coffee and it gave a 120 year old woman 7th degree burns...

>> No.13691008

>>13690888
It does not taste like the old version, and they don't use the powder in my country because of vegans.

Fuck vegans!

>> No.13691013

>>13690210
They have a different pallete to you because they were raised eating different food.

>> No.13691017

>>13691013
yeah exactly, fucking weirdos

>> No.13691018

American coffee is so fucking weird, why do you make huge jugs of coffee? Learn to operate an espresso machine.

>> No.13691021

>>13689534
Realized it was retarded to do so. Check, kemosabi

>> No.13691024

>>13688536
Based and redpilled

>> No.13691052

>>13691018
probably because they aren't trying to make espresso?

>> No.13691068

>>13691052
Yeah you're trying to make garbage filter coffee. Surely at that point you should just split the difference and drink instant, it's virtually identical.

>> No.13691079

>>13691068
>instant coffee
zoomer faglord

>> No.13691080

>>13691068
coffee is a low tier commodity food, the difference between better and worse forms is trivial, only women care about this shit

>> No.13691081

>>13691079
Instant coffee has existed since the fucking 1800s, what are you on about?

>> No.13691085

>>13691080
You can just say you live in a garbage country with no good coffee, it's okay.

>> No.13691086
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13691086

>>13688536
okay yeah I'm thinkin that's based.

>> No.13691094

>>13689196
I remember it being kind of popular in the 90s for some reason.

>> No.13691117

>>13688511
"apple" pie

>> No.13691148

>>13691117
>BAKED APPLE PIE

>Ingredients: Apples (Apples, Ascorbic Acid, Salt, Citric Acid), Enriched Flour (Bleached Wheat Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Sugar, Palm Oil, Water, Apple Juice Concentrate, Modified Food Starch, Invert Syrup, Contains 2% or Less: Yeast, Salt, Cinnamon, Sunflower Lecithin, L-Cysteine (Dough Conditioner), Yeast Extract, Enzyme, Beta-Carotene (Color).

>> No.13691276

>>13688514
no that was that one lady who dropped the coffee on her leg and got eighth degree burns

>> No.13691367

>>13689111
>how the fuck do you burn 16%

A full leg is considered 20%, arm is 10%, torso is 35%, face is 5%. If you spill a full, almost boiling, coffee cup on your lap, it's not far fetched to have 3rd degree burns on 16% of your body.

>> No.13691371

>>13691148
Surprisingly basic when you consider they're forced to break down each individual ingredient to it's constituents. Don't know what invert syrup is though.

>> No.13691375

>>13689557
They kept it that high probably because they didn't want bacteria to develop and change pots every hours. Seriously, you can keep soup for more than 3 days in a pot as long as it's always over 60 degrees celcius.

>> No.13691381

>>13691371
Glucose/fructose syrup made from boiling sucrose with water.

>> No.13691468

>>13688514
That was coffee peepeepoopoo

>> No.13691473

>>13689633
You forgot, before 'lawyer pushes for more'
>McDonalds tells her to fuck off, she's getting nothing

>> No.13691477
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13691477

>>13688514
You're thinking of that old hag who doused coffee all over herself and tried to set herself on fire. Funny thing is the coffee was hot enough to give her neinth degree burns and there was no need to set the fire

>> No.13691499

>>13689830
based vegans ruining shitty zog food for the masses

>> No.13691505

>>13691477
What are you talking about

>> No.13691528

>>13691375
It only needs to be at 140F/66C to stay safe but they had it at 190F/90C. Maybe they just thought it seemed fresher at that temperature.

>> No.13691723

>>13690614
It used to be served like a hundred fucking degrees over safe temperatures, don't talk like you know shit.

>> No.13691742

>>13688514
Coffee, it was 10th degree burns, she received

>> No.13691746

>>13688536
Base and pill

>> No.13691956

>>13688511
I like the new style apple pies fight me faggots

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13691978

>>13690197
>yeah I don't really understand that shit
Because she didn't want to be perceived as a greedy opportunist, and just wanted money to cover the costs for her surgery.

There is a nonzero chance the McDonalds wouldn't have gone on their smear campaign if the sum was just that.

>> No.13691992

>>13688604
old people are so fucking fragile. if they had their way we wouldn't be allowed to drive faster than 25 mph and we wouldn't be allowed to clear snow and fog off our cars

>> No.13691995

>>13688514
I'm here from reddit. I heard we were beating a comment to death. I'm here to take it to the 11th degree

>> No.13692000

>>13689505
you can just get 4 hour old coffee out of an air pot then meanwhile I'll have mine fresh, which involves boiling water

>> No.13692008

>>13689519
she still would have fucking been burned. I don't think there's any place that serves coffee you can comfortable pour between your legs immediately after being served. especially if you're elderly. is no one allowed to serve hot food in case some fucking dumb cunt decides to immediately pour it on their crotch and sue?

>> No.13692055

>>13688604
>and it gave her second degree burns

That happens a lot with food service fuck ups. In the coffee example the lady wanted to take them to court to get them to be accountable for having no standards on that shit, mcdonalds settled out of court for a massive sum so they wouldn't look as bad, and then all you hear about it years down the line is "crazy bitch burnt herself on coffee and sued poor mcdonalds what a harpy".

>> No.13692551

>>13692008
Of course she still would've been burned, but see >>13689557

Her burns just would've been a lot less severe if the coffee was slightly less hot

>> No.13692577
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13692577

>>13688511
Because its hotter than the sun.

>> No.13692599

>>13690210
What were you expecting?

>> No.13692672

>>13690210
jesus do bug people actually do this

you are suppose to refine the corn into a syrup before you put it in a pie dummie!

>> No.13692703

>>13688593
Also that was a smear campaign against the woman cause they new any jury would find them culpable.Look at the pictures of her burns and how hot the coffee really was.

>> No.13693576

>>13691505
kekd

>> No.13693659

>>13692577
Back of the net!

>> No.13693975

>>13689196
Only reason it's still on the menu is because it's been there since McD's started and if they took it off people would have a shit fit

>> No.13693989

>>13689689
They got rid of that one years ago for being nasty. They used to have a smore's on that was pretty good though.

>> No.13693996

>>13689822
No, that was the Hindu Association of America. The controversy was McDonald's lied about the fact they used a beef based fry oil advertising it as vegetable oil.

>> No.13694002

>>13688511
The Taco Bell caramel apple empanadas are basically an old school McDonald's apple pie. Or at least really close to it.

>> No.13694009

>>13691018
Same reason American portions are huge. The Great Depression fucked with our collective psyche and now we're obsessed with getting the most amount of food for our money.

>> No.13694012

>>13691018
Man, I miss when Gloria Jean's sold those 48oz frappes.

>> No.13694037

>>13691995
Go back

>> No.13694088

>>13692551
still would have suffered injuries. what's the fucking difference at that point? don't pour scalding coffee on your cunt

>> No.13694091

>>13692703
Unless it was hotter than 100c, it's her fault

>> No.13694384

>>13688536
I want ogres to eat woman

>> No.13694388

>>13694088
>what's the fucking difference at that point?
There's a big difference between second and third degree burns

>> No.13694479

>>13690614
they were super-heating the coffee far above a reasonable holding temp. the local restaurant was acting outside of even corporate McDonald's guidelines for it.

>> No.13694486

>>13691148
omg there's acid in apple pies?

>> No.13694541

>>13694388
there's no fucking difference because neither should happen to your customers

>> No.13694550

>>13694541
ok retard

>> No.13694626

>>13694479
Imagine actually believing this

>> No.13695415

>>13694479
>aaaaa i dropped coffee on myself why is it so hot give moneeeey
Are americans really this entiteld?

>> No.13695523

>>13690905
>>13691723
>>13694479
>coffee was hotter than boiling water
Literally impossible, retards.
Every coffee drinker knows fresh coffee is usually REALLY FUCKING HOT when you first get it.
I'm sure if she were to take one of their plastic forks and STICK IT IN HER FUCKING EYE it would maim too.
Eating can be dangerous is you're a total fucking retard.

>> No.13695847

>>13694091
It wasn't hotter than 100c but it was 88c and did still give her third degree burns on top of this she only got $600,000 total mostly just to punish mc Donald. They offed to settle for $90,000 before the lawsuit to cover medical expenses, but mc Donalds refused. As well as the fact that they weren't meant to hold the coffee at that temperature anyway as 88c is pretty hot and even if you got a shot of espresso it wouldn't be that hot when it gets to you. On the other hand it did conform to industry standards and it was the woman's fault it spilt on her lap. But remeber were talking about mc Donalds the faceless mega corporation that treats workers like shit and frankly taking some responsibility for once is due and makes sure that they don't make their practices any more scummy than they already are.

>> No.13695940

>>13689282
Right? Imagine going through that abs also being laughed at by the entire country. Poor woman needed skin grafts.

>> No.13696253

>>13688511
I could a dozen of those fried pies. The baked are dry as hell.

>> No.13697990

>>13689633
So McDonald's spilled the coffee on her or she spilled it on herself?

>> No.13698012

>>13695523
>>coffee was hotter than boiling water
>Literally impossible, retards.
It's not impossible to get water above boiling temp but you'd have to have it under pressure. Sometimes people accidentally "superheat" water when microwaving it too because it keeps heating up without any agitation to start the boiling.

>> No.13698021

>>13697990
She spilled it on herself. But her injuries wouldn't have been so bad if it was just kept at a lower temperature. She almost immediately got third degree burns from it. During the court case they said she was still at fault for spilling it but the coffee temperature itself was a bigger problem.

>> No.13698075

>>13697990
She stuck the coffee cup directly in her crotch like a retard and it spilled.
Retards in this thread are acting like this is a safe thing to do and no one should ever expect fresh coffee to actually be really hot.

>> No.13698081

>>13698075
Nobody is saying that's a good idea, fuckface. But if the coffee wasn't kept at near boiling temperatures she wouldn't have needed surgery after spilling it on herself.

>> No.13698100

>>13698081
Fresh coffee is hot, retard. Everyone knows to treat it with care.
It'd be different if there was some foreign substance in the coffee, like lye or something, that dissolved her flesh
But that's not what happened - she was injured because she spilled HOT coffee on herself, and HOT coffee is sometimes BOILING HOT.

>> No.13698107

>>13698100
>Fresh coffee is hot
I don't think McDonald's is brewing fresh coffee for each order. It was just being held at that temperature. Yes, she was retarded for doing what she did, but the extent of her injuries because of what temperature it was being held at was the focus of the problem.

>> No.13698114

>>13698107
Freshly poured coffee from the carafe, retard.
Once it's in your cup it begins to slowly cool.

>> No.13698129

>>13698114
Takes like 15 minutes for it to cool to a drinkable temperature from 190F, why keep it at that temperature after brewing? It only needs to be that hot for the actual brewing, but not for holding.

>> No.13698146

>>13698129
>why keep coffee hot?
Post foreskin.

>> No.13698160

>>13698146
Coffee kept at 140F is still plenty hot and that's what most other hot foods are held at. Not really a good reason to keep it 50F higher, nobody is drinking it that hot and the potential for injury is a lot higher for no good reason. Nice strawman though, penisbreath.

>> No.13698177

>>13698160
>everyone should assume any coffee they receive in a cup was brewed more than 20 minutes ago and is now at a temperature save to administer a vaginal douche with
Ok retard.

>> No.13698191

>>13698177
>everyone should assume
I didn't say anything about that. Keep strawmanning. You're basically just talking to yourself at this point.

>> No.13698304

>>13691528
>190F/90C
Wow, so literally as hot as fresh coffee typically is?
That lawsuit is 10x more retarded than I first thought.
Stupid fucking cunt suffered because of her own carelessness and negligence and some greasy shyster lawyer actually crafted an argument that made retards felt sorry for her and blamed the people who sold her the coffee.

>> No.13699412

>>13689181
Based britbong

>> No.13700199

>>13692000
You realize you can make it hotter right? That was the problem.

>> No.13700216

>>13688514
she dropped 12th degree black belts on coffee, she had to be taken to the burns

>> No.13700327

>>13698304
Yeah, defense should have argued she got so hot (sexually aroused) from placing the cup in her crotch, that she in fact burnt herself due to the stimulation. That argument would surely have worked with a jury of majority women, lol!

>> No.13700632

>>13688514
she dropped 13 cups of hot coffee all over her pussy and sued for a billion dollars and now she owns mcdonalds

>> No.13700653

Funny how many corporate dick suckers post in this thread or maybe you guys are McDonald's employees and feel the need to defend your corporate overlord? Nah probably pissed off europeans who just look for excuses to make fun of le dumb americans.
Either way, think about who you guys are defending here.

>> No.13700702

>>13688514
Hey not sure if somebody mentioned this yet but I think it was from coffee