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[Anonymous No.13642850]

Is this worth getting? Are there any similar priced alternatives?

>https://www.amazon.com/Breville-BES870XL-Barista-Express-Espresso/dp/B00CH9QWOU

[Anonymous No.13642863]

>>13642850
Gaggia is better overall and doesn't have a shitty grinder attached to it.

[Anonymous No.13642919]

>>13642850
Seems expensive until you consider how much an espresso is at most coffee shops.

[Anonymous No.13644150]

>>13642850
Save up for the Breville dual boiler or don't bother

[Anonymous No.13644182]

>spending over $500 on a fancy coffee machine
>not just buying a jar of Nescafe Gold for $3

[Anonymous No.13644190]

>>13642850
You just know 432/433 confirmed purchases were redditors

[Anonymous No.13644191]

>>13642850
It’s a piece of shit

[Anonymous No.13644205]

>>13644182
how else are you supposed to impress ladies you bring home?
>yeah, i'm an amateur barista
>omg im so wet

[Anonymous No.13644403]

>>13644190
i hate you and i love you anon. its shit like this that makes me laugh after a shitty day, even though its utter garbage humor.

[Anonymous No.13644414]

>>13642919
youd have to drink like 200-400 espressi before you even break even the dollars for the machine, now factor in the upkeep cost and the cleaning and all the other shit, not to mention the beans and you could probably drink 700+ espressi at a coffee shop until this thing has benefited you.
So thats, 2-3 years of espresso until you break even.

[Anonymous No.13644437]

>>13644414
Make two shots a day and it’s paid for in a year. A good Entry level espresso machine like a Silvia will last 10-15+ years and are easily user repairable (unlike plastic chinkshit like brevilles)

[Anonymous No.13644444]

>>13642850
it's a bit pricier but i opted for the lelit PL41TEM. but then i also got the kinu phoenix grinder so that'll add to the price too. but the PID is pretty nice, already pulling decent shots.

[Anonymous No.13644457]

>>13644414
Your math is off too. A double shot or Americano costs $3 at most shops and latte $5. Your only expense at home is $0.50-$0.75 beans per double shot and $0.10 of milk for a latte. Maintenance and cleanup is trivial and most home coffee enthusiasts enjoy it as part of the routine. You are saving $4 per drink if you make lattes. Two a day and you save $3k. That’s enough to buy a Rocket HX machine and a high end grinder like a Niche Zero.

[Anonymous No.13644460]

>>13642850
Get the infuser and the smart grinder pro separate. The grinders tend to break. and it will cost you about the same to get them separate.

[Anonymous No.13644469]

>>13644460
Not worth the ask. A Gaggia Classic Pro and Sette 270 is in striking distance of that price range

[Anonymous No.13644473]

>>13644437
If youre into it sure, but if we argue coffee shop customers, then I doubt you'd hit your local shop twice a day every day.
This breville aluminium plastic trash thing will probably break on you before you even got your money out of it and a mechanical espresso maker would probably last you a life time. But the thing is, if you buy this trashy Breville or other semi auto/full auto things for "cheap"(still expensive) then they will make a shitty espresso. Coffee shops have 2000+ dollar machines and can pull you an espresso with pinpoint accuracy to your taste (if the barista isnt some retard low wage slave)

[Anonymous No.13644480]

>>13644457
in Europe(Germany/Italy/France) expensive espressi go for 2 Euro roundabout, and you get them for 1 Euro at most decent places.

[Anonymous No.13644494]

>>13644473
Not advocating this Breville garbage. You can get a perfectly doable setup within $1-1.5k as long as your prioritize the grinder. That’s two espresso a day and not even counting milk drinks. And you would be surprised at how often coffee enthusiasts will frequent their favourite haunt, especially if it’s part of their morning routine.

[Anonymous No.13644511]

>>13644494
thing is, you will pay a lot for a good grinder and then you will have to pay a lot for a decent semi auto or physical machine, and then you dont want trash roasts in your espresso so you go for good beans too. The thing is, that when you factor everything in, you will pay upwards of 800 bucks just for the mere setup. Its a rabbit hole, because unless you spend, as you said 1-1.5k on the whole thing, you will more than likely not make a great espresso (that is also quickly available) the cleaning and the maintenance that you dont have to do at a coffee shop, is already worth it in my book.

If youre an enthusiast the whole discussion is pointless because then its a passion, and then you dont care about the price.

[Anonymous No.13644536]

>>13644511
If were talking entry level then a $500 Sette 270 is great and perfectly capable pairing of even a 2k HX machine. The bottle neck to good espresso is always the grinder followed by the beans. You can use a Silvia with a PID for $500 and with a Sette 270 or better (like a $900 Niche Zero) and make excellent espresso. Again this all within the realm of 2 espresso a day to pay it off in one year.

[Anonymous No.13644546]

>>13644511
not that dude but don't most people get satisfaction out of cleaning/maintaining their shit? i enjoy stuff like sharpening my knives and making sure my appliances are clean/working well. i thought that was normal

[Anonymous No.13644558]

>>13644546
Exactly no lazy mofo would consider home espresso in the first place unless the notion of routine and control appealed to them. Otherwise they would stick to podshit

[Anonymous No.13644596]

>>13644536
>>13644546
I enjoy it sometimes, but other times you do not want to do an entire autistic ritual just for some coffee.

[Anonymous No.13644612]

>>13644457
Don't forget the electricity and water you need to power the thing. And who honestly drinks a latte every single day?

[Anonymous No.13644630]

>>13644596
This is how I am as well. I truly love coffee, and I have all sorts of gadgets with which to make it, but I would say 60% of the time at least when I wake up and want some coffee that I don't want to go through the minor hassle of using my moka pot or French press and instead would rather use my drip machine for 3 quick, perfect cups. There are days when I want moka or pressed coffee and have no issue switching the grind and boiling water and shit, but in the end it doesn't feel worth it for when I just want a cup to wake up.

[Anonymous No.13644641]

>>13642850
reminder that every single qualified barista agrees a home espresso machine is completely useless unless you're a wealthy hobbyist

[Anonymous No.13644660]

>>13644630
what was a game changer for me was waking up like 2 hours prior to work. that way i can wake up a bit, go through the espresso routine, read, and casually start my day. not rushing to work really helps me feel a lot better overall. guess that's a bit of a tangent though. but yeah it is a bit of a process and i can see why some people wouldn't want to do it all the time

[Anonymous No.13644675]

>>13644660
I absolutely despise this kind of mindset, as if centering your life around your work and actually managing your life around it, made your life better. I hate the mornings, I dont need coffe, I like it on the weekends when I have time and get a cozy feeling from using my shitty hand grinder from the 30s and put the grinds in my french press. I mean do what you gotta do but I will never sacrifice my life any more than I absolutely have to, when it comes to work. Fuck wage work, and yes, that goes toward every single fucking job. The only way to live well is to have your money work for you, and then youre the slavemaster and you hate yourself either way. Fuck this system. But yeah, enjoy your coffee bro.

[Anonymous No.13644678]

>>13644612
addicts

[Anonymous No.13644679]

>>13644205
Ugh just rape them like the rest of us

[Anonymous No.13644683]

>>13644641
obviously. I think almost every downsized consumer good is actually a scam. Everything. Its just sold to everyone because a big industry depends on it. So you get these kinds of reviews of whats the best this or that but in essence they too just want to make money off of your gullibility.

[Anonymous No.13644684]

>>13644612
wow $0.03 of water and electricity

[Anonymous No.13644689]

>>13644675
do you think he actually does that shit? it's some retarded wagecuck fantasy
the reality of owning an espresso machine is constantly fucking with settings, constant maintenance, keeping an autistic journal to make adjustments, and then having to spend all day cleaning it if you decide to go a morning without home espresso
all for something inferior to the version available at any local cafe for $1.50

[Anonymous No.13644721]

>>13644675
i'm sorry you feel that way, it works for me. and i'm not "centering my life around my work", i'm actually doing something prior to work and it helps my mental well-being by not flying around the house and rushing to work. i used to work a shitty desk job but now work as a cook and love it, realized money isn't everything and i can lead a more than comfortable life with what i make. you can make work one of your passions, trust me
>>13644689
i don't think i could have posted something more false if i tried

[Anonymous No.13644791]

Keep em separated..

[Anonymous No.13644803]

>>13642850
just get a gaggia classic from pre 2009.....cheap on ebay, then put pare money into a decent grinder like a mignon

[Anonymous No.13644811]

>>13644689
>>13644675

The fuck is wrong with you people? This thread is full of weird wood panel trailer park shut ins I guess.

[Anonymous No.13644836]

>>13644721
i guess. But the thing is at the end of the day, you gotta plan ahead. Your money might be enough now but is it enough for you when youre not working anymore? Is it enough if you want to support a family?

[Anonymous No.13644841]

>>13644205
>bringing broke girls home
I’m not retarded

[Anonymous No.13644866]

>>13642850
I've had that exact model for two years now and I use it every day it works great, was tough figuring out proper grind coarseness and grind amount st first but I've never owned anything prior to this besides shot machines and Keurig..
Worth it 8/8 I've never looked back

[Anonymous No.13644874]

>>13644675
What’s with this rant? The guy isn’t even bragging about work or whatever. He’s talking about how he finds time to make his hobby work in his daily routine. Maybe if you found some joy in your life like that anon you wouldn’t have such a negative outlook on life

[Anonymous No.13644914]

>>13644414
did you just pluralize espresso like a faggot

[Anonymous No.13644915]

>>13644874
There are people that exist that are human mistakes.

[Anonymous No.13644923]

>>13642850
Just ball out and get a Jura, like the Jura Micro 9 which is more compact. Had one for 6 years and no issues.

[Anonymous No.13645039]

>>13644914
>being aware of how languages work makes you a faggot
No wonder youre an amerishart.

[Anonymous No.13645155]

>>13644205
>he’s insecure about his interest

The only virgin here is you lmao

[Anonymous No.13645173]

>>13644150
This. Also, get a good grinder. The breville grinder is garbage.

[Anonymous No.13645258]

>>13644923
Buying full auto is like going full retard: never go full retard

[Anonymous No.13645374]

>>13645258
Convenience is never bad but to each their own Anon.

[Anonymous No.13645381]

>>13645173
It's not, if you look at the grind analysis. those seattle cunts actually look at the grind. it's decent. and only costs 170 bucks.

[Anonymous No.13645406]

>>13645173
This is from a breville smartgrinder that cost me 178 dollerydoos. The grind is consistant and can go down to turkish if you want it to. The burrs are razor sharp.

[Anonymous No.13645411]

>>13644469
>Gaggia Classic Pro
I disagree.

The Breville uses a stainless steel spiral heating chamber that is pid controlled. No aluminum contacts the heated water and nothing can oxidize in the chain. The pid is also far more accurate. Beyond this the grinder produces the most consistent particle size out of any grinder under 2,000 dollars. To each their own but the infuser/ smart grinder combo is by fart he best you can get under the thousand dollar mark.

[Anonymous No.13645521]

>>13645381
it's a plastic piece of shit that will chortle and break 1 day after the 90 day warranty expires. invest in a good grinder, get a grinder you can use for 10+ years and easily repair on your own using parts that are readily available online. piece of shit breville grinders are known for using fucking plastic impellers that wear out (i.e you are getting pieces of plastic in your grind)

[Anonymous No.13645531]

>>13645411
it's garbage thermocoil tech that is absolutely useless and limped dick for steaming milk. also breville is notoriously known for shit build quality. why dump $300-400 on something that will wind up in a fucking dumpster one year from now? put that towards a decent machine that will last you a decade or longer, and something you can actually repair yourself.

[Anonymous No.13645545]

>>13645374
>"convenience"

cleaning out accumulated gunk and absolutely having to run cleaning solutions through a full auto machine is a much bigger pain in the ass than using a semi-auto setup. also full auto makes half assed shot. craftmanship > convenience.

[Anonymous No.13645553]

>>13644205
nigga i have a bed and a computer

[Anonymous No.13645558]

>>13645411
>the grinder produces the most consistent particle size out of any grinder under 2,000 dollars.
>$150 Smart Grinder "Pro"

It barely makes espresso grind...

[Anonymous No.13645821]

>>13645531
source your asshole

>>13645558
that isn't its finest setting that the particle consistency at the "dialed in" espresso shot.


Man its nice to see some seething italotards on here

[Anonymous No.13645977]

>>13645821
I’m not the idiot comparing chinashit plastic breville crap to $2000 commercial equipment

[Anonymous No.13646829]

No home machines are built to last any more. Seals fail. If you can find an old baby gaggia it will last. I’ve had mine for ten years.

[Anonymous No.13647378]

>>13645977
Still not an argument

[Anonymous No.13647392]

>>13644914
>proper grammar makes you a faggot

[Anonymous No.13647550]

>>13647378
I’ve owned a SGP it’s a piece of shit that barely makes espresso grind. Anyone who claims a cheap conical stepped grinder with plastic impellers compares to a $1000 grinder or even a competent entry level grinder like a Vario or Sette 270 is deluded.

[Anonymous No.13648976]

>>13647550
Made up anecdotes again. whoah what a shocker. See if you had owned it you know the burset while not commercial is not "small" and it very easily produces grind sizes that would choke a commercial machine.