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A vegan diet lowers your intelligence according to new BBC article.
>Later in life, the amount of B12 in a person’s blood has beendirectly correlated with their IQ. In the elderly, one study found that the brains of those with lower B12 were six timesmore likely to be shrinking.
>Cofnas takes a harsher view. Though vegans can take supplements, he thinks it’s unrealistic to expect that they all will. Consequently, he finds the recent shift towards plant-based diets troubling, though he’s sympathetic to the arguments for doing so. “Without question, veganism can cause B12 and iron deficiencies, and without question they affect your intelligence,” he says.
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200127-how-a-vegan-diet-could-affect-your-intelligence

>> No.13590641

Every vegan I've ever met is overweight

>> No.13590655

>>13590641
That's because they consume 50 - 100 pounds of soi a day and never exercise.

>> No.13590658

>>13590641
"Vegetarians" are usually fat. Vegans are usually emaciated, they look like prisoners from a concentration camp.

>> No.13590893

oh no vegan bros we got too cocky

>> No.13590928
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>>13590658
Vegans call this "thriving."

>> No.13590954

>>13590637
I had deficiencies before I went vegan.. I ate just meat constantly too. I actually got more iron after

>> No.13590960

>>13590954
You honestly want us to believe that cutting something out of your diet helped you get rid of deficiencies?
You were obviously eating like a retard. Don't blame that on meat.

>> No.13590966

>>13590960
Yeah. I cant post my results because I'm working. I think I was eating beef tacos if I recall
Cholesterol got lower too

>> No.13590971

>>13590966
eating shitty ground beef tacos every day isn't a normal diet, but that has nothing to do with the meat.

>> No.13590973

I take b12 supliments every day but that's because I drink alcohol every.

>> No.13590977

>>13590971
It was literally meat from a butcher, they had freshly killed animals too.
Plants helped me with my iron

>> No.13590982

>>13590973
Good man. Wernicke-Korsakoff is a motherfucker.

>>13590966
I'm glad you're better but eating shitty fastfood every day isn't good for you even if you take the meat out of it.

>> No.13590986

>>13590977
>they had freshly killed animals too
lmao, you know how I know you're a vegan bullshit artist?
You can't eat a 'freshly killed' animal, you need to drain the blood.

>> No.13590993

>>13590986
Um... I know how it works, I was a active meat eater before. It was a local butcher and I see them process meat before.

Please relax my guy

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>>13590993
We're OK bro.

>> No.13591004

>I think we need a lot more research into vegan nutrition and health,” says Heather Russell, a dietitian from The Vegan Society. “As far as we can tell, it’s possible to lead a healthy life as a vegan – certainly there are people who thrive on a vegan diet.” Though it’s important to take supplements, she explains that a person’s cardiovascular and brain health are inextricably linked, andvegans tend to have healthier hearts.

kys dumb zoomer

>> No.13591036

>>13590993
>I was a active meat eater before
lmao, you know how I know you're a vegan bullshit artist?
That's called a 'normal person', only vegans diehards call people 'meat eaters' (or would say 'freshly killed animals' lmao)

>> No.13591056

>>13591036
Freshly *butchered animal
Here you go

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>>13591056
It's simply 'fresh meat', you dumbfuck vegan.

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>every shilling vegan ever.....

>> No.13591072

Bobby has ended Veganism anyway....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsKMN6TmawA

>> No.13591090

Even the vegan doctors are talking about the risks of Veganism and they are also talking about eating meat. Yes the vegan doctors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjw8MpmwKeo

>> No.13591097

>>13591072
she has an eating disorder though. not the vegan kind i mean

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>>13591097
Veganism and eating disorder is the same thing.

>> No.13591149

>>13591129
i could post a bunch of pictures of omnivores with eating disorders and nobody would blame the diet. its easier to switch to a vegan diet with an eating disorder, but not even vegans defend using veganism to restrict

>> No.13591159

>>13591149
Seconded. I know lots of people who are omnivores and they still refuse to eat. A eating disorder is defined by not eating in general, not what food you consume

>> No.13591229

>>13590655
Soy isn't filtered here. Nigger.

>> No.13591248

>people who don't eat a balanced diet suffer deficencies

Thanks for the brilliant newsflash, meatfag.

>> No.13591277

>bbc

>> No.13591280

>>13590637
>>>/fit/

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>>13591149
>not even vegans defend using veganism to restrict

Veganism is by definition a restrict diet. Can vegans even say anything that makes sense?

And btw pro-Ana means Veganism as well. Not that anyone here gives a fuck. Please starve yourself if that's what you want to do.

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>links to some editorialized website instead of quoting the research
Speaks volumes

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>>13591248
Vegans suffer deficiencies, but they don't consider that a negative. They willingly suffer, for their vegan cult and for the animals. Why the rancor against normal non-sado-masochism lifestyle people, that's what I don't get.

>REEEEEE PEOPLE DON'T EAT WHAT I TELL THEM TO EAT!
>REEEEEEE!

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>>13591289
Did they also poll all the vegan children who died in infancy? Fucking geniuses.

>> No.13591339

>>13591296
>vegans willingly suffer for their lifestyle:)
>YEESSS I love bdsm and being treated like a toy to abuse by all my partners and also I love being restrained to a bed until all my legs drain of blood. I love abuse play in relationships

>> No.13591347

>>13591283
>pro-Ana means Veganism
no it doesn't you fucking retard. veganism is promoted by pro ana people a decent amount, but that's just to have an excuse to turn down most food your family and friends eat.
veganism is not pro ana, and a good vegan diet is so fucking far from anorexia

>> No.13591360

>>13591339
>>YEESSS I love bdsm and being treated like a toy to abuse by all my partners and also I love being restrained to a bed until all my legs drain of blood. I love abuse play in relationships

Perfect description of vegans. Sickest fucks on flat Earth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoRUSVaNRT8

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>>13591347
Dr dray- 600,000 adoring subscribers
FREELEE- 780,000 adoring subscribers

Both are frightening skeletons. 78% of vegans are female. The subscribers of these two walking skeletons, and others, shows that Veganism is a anorexia cult, ie: pro-Ana. How do you even know what that means lol?

>> No.13591397

what do you blokes mean by ana ? its a female name afaik

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>>13591072
>can't make it as vegan YouTuber
>needs money for permanent vacation
>Oh ex vegans are getting views
>goes ex vegan
>gets another month out of Thailand from views
>now back to slavshit country and broke
>mfw lmao at bobby's life

>> No.13591404

>>13591360
I was mocking omnivores with that. Not vegans. BDSM is accepted but eating only plants is too drastic

>> No.13591409

>>13591397
pro-Ana means pro anorexia lifestyle. They have their own subreddits and everything. And they're all vegan for starters. Finding out about pro-Ana exposes the truth we have already known-- that Veganism is just a anorexia cult for white females

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsKMN6TmawA

>> No.13591415

>>13591371
wow anorexics flocking to videos about food, restricting, and skeletons. sounds like veganism to me

>veganism is an anorexia cult
no, anorexics will just watch anything that reinforce their rules and can give them new ones. there are right and wrong ways of doing veganism, and anorexics love the wrong way because you can eat larger portions and lose weight, and have an excuse to turn down "bad" foods

>How do you even know what that means
I'm pretty sure any of the 4 people that didn't know what pro-ana means could put the pieces together

>> No.13591425

>>13591402
>Wow he's not bill gates haha what a fucking loser!

Ironic thing is, a lot of vegans have super--rich elite parents, easy trust fund lives, yet they choose to be vegan "stars" even adopting the grunge travelling vegabond lifestyle like fit shortie eats and plantriotic? Vegans are weird I'll give them that.

>Look at my vegan journey Pham!!
>(It's on a fucking private jet but we won't mention that lol)

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>>13591415
>wow anorexics flocking to videos about food, restricting, and skeletons. sounds like veganism to me

Correct. I feel like we're really getting somewhere here.

>> No.13591452

>>13591430
you could literally go to any food video and find a disproportionate amount of anorexics. Any cooking video or mukbang video or especially "what i eat in a day" is going to have a lot of anorexics.
Not eating animal products by choice for your health/the environment/ethics and not eating animal products because you're deathly afraid of dairy, eggs, and food cooked by someone else

>> No.13591522

>>13591409
>and they're all vegan
some are. most aren't. any kind of bouillon is a popular ana food. same with egg whites, reduced fat cheese, deli slices, small chocolates, etc.
it's not about the animals, its about the calories. and its usually easier to eat less calories by cutting out most animal products

>> No.13591535

what about the sportsmen that are paid to say they re vegan ?

>> No.13591591

>>13591535
Nothing but paid for shills.

>Mr athlete your career is over, how would you like to appear in a film and boost your popularity? I can mention your name to Mr Cameron??

Whose going to say no?

>> No.13591615

>>13591535
What about the fairies that are going to trickle down wealth from the 1%?

>> No.13591631

>>13591591
If veganism doesn't work, why do other people feel threatened by it? It's like a divorcee claiming all marriages fail and demanding a married couple divorce. Cognitive dissonance. If it doesnt work why spend time debunking it?

>> No.13591637

>be vegan
>refuse to eat honey because muh bees
>eat almonds
incredible

>> No.13591666

>>13590928
those are great fucking abs ngl

>> No.13591675

>>13591360
>being slightly kinky makes you the sickest fucks on earth
Jesus christ man it isnt 1950

>> No.13591676

>>13590928
freelee looks way healthier than most fatass omnivores. i dont see the problem

>> No.13591694

>>13590928
Sunken eyes. A huge sign that the body is cannibalizing itself for resources.

>> No.13591774

Why do vegans smell so bad? Do they also not believe in showering? Every vegan I met in college was the kind of person you could smell as soon as they entered the room.

>> No.13591822

>>13591774
Did they play smash?

>> No.13591831

>>13591003
does he understand how dogs are made?

>> No.13591832

My question is: why are the BBC doing anti-vegan articles? I thought veganism was one of their pet liberal globo-homo agendas?

>> No.13591847

>>13591831
Dogs themselves are domesticated and can eat our food, actually most animals are omnivores and just eat whatever they fine. They have survival instincts not meat eating ones

>> No.13591870

>>13591822
Underrated post

>> No.13591873

>>13591847
dog balls are still involved

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>>13591631
Because vegans are shoving (((your diet))) down my throat, by taxes, laws and "nutritional guidelines." I don't personally give a fuck if vegans want to starve themselves to death. In fact I prefer it.

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>>13591666
Vegans do have good abs Mr Satan, but at what cost? Turkey neck and corpse eyes (not to mention teeth)

>> No.13591964

>>13591676
Of course you don't see a problem because you are pro-Ana. We are like a different species and ideally we should not even communicate (between pro-anorexia nutjobs and normal people)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsKMN6TmawA

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>>13591694
Vegan necks are also horrifying, although the vegan cultists themselves seem not to notice.

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>vegans look perfectly healthy to me
>I fail to see the problem!?

>> No.13592019

>>13590928
thriving
>looks like someone with AIDS

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>>13592019
Because vegans are pro-Ana. Leanne Ratcliff (pictured) has 780,000 passionate YouTube subscribers who gush endlessly about how "beautiful and youthful" she looks.

>> No.13592143

>>13591964
>unironically using "faces of veganism" for proof of anything
and real pro-ana isn't "don't eat animals." real pro-ana is "don't eat". real pro-ana is bullying people into eating less than 500 calories a day. its bullying people into thinking they're fat with a BMI over 15. it's competing with other anorexics to see who can restrict the most. you clearly have no fucking idea what pro-ana is, and youre just saying it a lot to convince people that the two are synonymous

>> No.13592180

>>13591968
Never really noticed before but now I can’t unsee.

>> No.13592212

>>13591637
figs shouldnt be vegan either

>> No.13592282

B12 is about the soil. Thank the companies like Monsanto for fucking everyone.

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>>13590637
vegans are literally dumber than normal people, amazing
>>13591280
exhibit A

>> No.13592301

>>13591637
Do you know what honey is? Do you know what almonds are? If yes to both that should clear up the confusion

>> No.13592306

>>13590637
40% of adults are b12 deficient. Are 40% of adults vegan?

>> No.13592384

>>13591004
That just means they'll spend more years in an old people's home unable to look after themselves and forgetting everyones names.

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>>13592143
You obviously know a lot about pro-Ana, and I literally heard about it for the first time this week.

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>>13591425
>tries to cash in on ex vegan trend
>fails miserably
>returns to slavshit country
>gets fat and hides his body
>Guys I no longer believe in Shamanism since I realised most carnivores are Christian
>now makes videos about Christianity to shill ButcherBox and some bullshit supplements
Guy is a massive liar and I can't believe people were donating money so he could go look at cows in Australia

>> No.13592444

>>13591694
I read this post in Sv3rige's voice

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>>13592306
Not really, unless you are one of 3000 people living in Framingham during 2000.

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>>13592421
Thanks for the reminder gotta send Bobby some shekels. Anyone who makes the vegans REEEEE this much deserves my support!

>> No.13592544

I drink enough beer that I'll never have to worry about b12

>> No.13592549

>>13592418
why are you spending your first week online on /ck/?

>> No.13592570

>>13592418
congrats on trying out your new vocabulary.
and yeah, im familiar with pro-ana communities. there's a pretty big one on /fa/.
im not vegan either, you're just a dumbass

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>>13592549
>>13592570
Stay vegan.

>> No.13592607

>>13592587
>im not vegan
>vegan = deficiency because some malnourished twink eats raw
thats like saying an omnivorous diet is bad because someone who only eats buttered pasta is malnourished

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>>13592607
>Veganism is great
>I'm not vegan myself

>> No.13592724

>>13592693
literally never said it was great. i said veganism isn't synonymous with anorexia or malnourishment. there are right and wrong ways to be vegan.
at this point you're just making things up

>> No.13592831

>>13592421
isnt he ripped asf ? looks like he is roiding since a long time ago

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>>13592530

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>>13593042
All that and he still looks 100x healthier than any vegan.

>> No.13593450

>>13593042
he's also super healthy and currently has a pregnant girlfriend not to mention that hes probably making good money rn he's essentially an unstoppable giga chad

>> No.13594410
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>Go vegan
>Your brain shrinks

>> No.13594411

>>13593263
Nigella is not carnivore, but i wont deny the fact that extreme veganism is super unhealthy and you shouldn't do it.

>> No.13594612

>>13594410
Brain size does not at all reflect your ability to use it. Even the relative size matters very little. Mass does not equal intelligence, even though some animation movie might convince you retards otherwise.

>> No.13594854 [DELETED] 

>>13594411
Nigella eats meat, the definition of "carnivore". And if being vegan is healthy, I don't see he there could even be such a thing as "extreme Veganism?"

Who are these "extreme Vegans?" Do they eat too much of this super-healthy food?

>> No.13594857

>>13594411
Nigella eats meat, the definition of "carnivore". And if being vegan is healthy, I don't see how there could even be such a thing as "extreme Veganism?"

Who are these "extreme Vegans?" Do they eat too much of this super-healthy food?

>> No.13595017

>>Dr Paul saladino in a debate.

One carnivore MD vs 10 big pharma industry shills.

It takes ten of ((((them))) to try to end our boy, but after it's over they have only exposed themselves as despicable sold out frauds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuaT4qohW0o

>> No.13595039

>>13592724
Not really any restrictive diet will take way source of nutrients. no matter what you restrict besides empty carbohydrates like sugar. Every vegan I know has to bend over backwards to get their nutrient and a vegetarian in my family had protein deficiency even though they eat a lot of meat substitutes.
In the end they had to get incredibly processed soy based protein powder in order to "be healthy".

>> No.13595178

>>13592418


there are tons of pro-ana videos on youtube it's not hard to find my man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l20TgcRveII

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>>13591003
this one is beyond help

>> No.13595795

>>13595039
>bend over backwards
>protien deficiency
eating oats, legumes, and peanuts gets you all the essential amino acids. protein deficiencies aren't actually a thing, and even then mushrooms, lentils, and tofu have more protein/calorie than eggs. vegan food will never have the protein macros of lean meat, but looking at how you can really only digest ~30g of protein at once, and neither of us are bodybuilders (and even then it doesn't really matter), the "but protein deficiency" argument is fucking stupid.

>but what about B12???
most people are B12 deficient anyways, a lot of vegan foods are fortified with B12 (just like a lot of non-vegan food), and if that's not good enough you can take a multi-vitamin.

eating basic nutritious food isn't bending over backwards, if you eat enough calories and dont do some stupid fruitarian bullshit, vegans have no problem meeting their nutritional needs

>also falling for the "soy bad" meme

>> No.13595814

>>13595204
why do you care tho

>> No.13595827

>>13593042
the least relevant anti-vegan considering he's completely retarded and doesn't actually know why the diet he's on works

>> No.13595857

>>13595017
after the opioid epidemic, I am still shocked that any sane human trusts doctors or the medical industry, it's like putting weapons manufactures in charge of peace negotiations

>> No.13595875

>>13595017
>implyong rat face isn't also a shill for the shitty american factory farmed meat industry

>> No.13595880

>>13595875
implying*

>> No.13595939

>>13595795
Most b12 supplements are not vegan, the ones that are are incredibly expensive and less effective than non vegan options like freeze dried liver.

>> No.13595989

>>13595939
> Industrial production of B12 is achieved through fermentation of selected microorganisms.
says wiki

>> No.13596011

>>13595939
oh good, i take it you and every non-vegan is eating freeze dried liver then.
>>13595989
and this

keep making shit up.

>> No.13596019

>>13590658
>cherry pick images and use dudebro science
Every single anti vegan thread.

>> No.13596069

>>13591430
How can he be sip skinny and fat at the same time.
Dude looks like he doesn't even have the strength to Jack himself off

>> No.13596118

>>13592301
>be vegan
>eat anything from a farm
>doesn’t realize you’re serving a millennia old system where farmers are constantly placed at the bottom of the economic ladder and sacrificed to produce food for the rest of us therefore making farming the exploitation of an animal

>> No.13596540

>>13596118
Farmers are gay. Fuck farmers

>> No.13596572

>>13596011
You absolute retard. B12 is naturally present in beef. If you want a CONCENTRATED DOSE you eat liver you dumb fuck.
Also the one making shit up is you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12
You know that fermentation involves tiny beings getting killed so you can eat right?
Holy shit are all vegan this dishonest?

>> No.13596638

>>13596572
>veganism is not consuming organisms
guess what dumbass, animals can't make their food. animals need to eat other organic material to live. Don't pretend like eating bacteria or bacteria products is the same as eating animals or animal products. Plants and fungi are living organisms just like bacteria, but it I'm sure even a brainlet like you can figure out that those aren't the same as eating animal products.
and literally nobody said b12 wasn't present in animal products. of course its availabile in (mostly herbivorous) animals because their diet has b12 from the plants they eat. but supplements aren't made from ground beef you fucking idiot

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I'm 8 months into carnivore, everything is great except I have knee pain when sitting (inflammation?). It's worse when I sit all day in the same position... but still, it feels worse than it should. Sometimes I need ibuprofen. I think it might be oxalate dumping. Very tentatively, if I consume oxalates it seems to diminish for a bit. Either that or its a shitty omega 3/6 ratio, because chicken, eggs and butter is almost all I eat. But there's conflicting info as to whether the 3/6 ratio matters.

>> No.13597045

>>13591004
is that why vegans are much more likely to have a stroke?
>>13596977
you are mentally ill, stop eating like a retard

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>>13596069
He actually went (raw bliss) went to a massage parlor in Malaysia and came out crying because...

>She touched my peepee.

These fucking vegans you just can't make this shit up.

>> No.13597192

>>13597099
Why can't anyone in this thread decide if veganism is starvation or not. Photo of a fat woman.

Make up your mind or stay silent

>> No.13597474

>>13591296
>Vegans suffer deficiencies

No they don't. I know, I'm one of them, I get plenty B12 via Marmite.
Meatfags, when will they learn?

>> No.13597506

>>13597192
Nobody said it was literal starvation you briandead moron you are likely nutrient deprived which leads to malnutrition and makes you look like you are starving AND/OR you overeat while your body tries to gain the nutrient you choose to ignore by restricting your diet.

>> No.13597534

>>13597506
it was being called synonymous with anorexia
and malnourishment doesn't make you look like you're starving. where the fuck did that come from? most obese people are malnourished because they only eat shit, and they certainly don't look like they're starving.
Jesus christ, anti-vegans are worse than vegans on this board

>> No.13597561

>>13597534
Oh it's definitely like anorexia if you also get into some of the crazy diets you fucks try to do to "detox" you body. And malnourishment without overeating absolutely makes you seem starved.

>> No.13597575

>>13590641
I've noticed this too. The type of person to be vegan is usually someone that doesn't go out and never gets invited to anything, because they are insufferable and turn every single social event into their whining.

They get fat sitting at home eating fucking pasta. Every single one.

>> No.13597612

>>13597192
God, did I say starvation? I'm not trolling I actually thought I typed something else. if veganism makes you skinny why is there fat vegans? Anti-vegans cant make up their minds if plants make you skinny or fat.

>>13597534
This. People can't decide if eating only plants makes you anorexic or gain weight

>> No.13597626

>>13590637
>he thinks
>Without question
That's just opinions, and biased ones on top of that. While in reality, vegans have higher IQ than meat eaters in general

>> No.13597665

>>13590637
Meat eaters also take vitamin b12 supplements, indirectly. Cattle is fed a lot of vitamin b12 supplements. Not much different than putting it in food?

>> No.13597679

>>13590637
>>Cofnas takes a harsher view. Though vegans can take supplements, he thinks it’s unrealistic to expect that they all will.
It's unrealistic to expect 100% of everyone will be healthy on any diet. The vast majority of people eat meat and are affected by heart disease, diabetes, dementia, various cancers, and other problems too.

>> No.13597718

>>13597045
>is that why vegans are much more likely to have a stroke?
Show me at least 2 studies where this was found

>> No.13597726

ITT: Gatis tries to subvert /ck/ into eating a bunch of raw rotten meat. Go away you dirty jew

>> No.13597931

>>13597561
if an anorexic picks up a vegan diet and does some stupid ass raw diet or cleanse and get malnourished, its because they did something stupid. if an anorexic had a tbsp of peanut butter and a hard boiled egg, nobody would say it was an omnivorous diet that caused them to be malnourished

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>>13597192
>Look vegans are obese!

You know your in a cult when this is a selling point lol.

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>>13597626
>in reality, vegans have higher IQ than meat eaters in general

>> No.13598162

>>13590637
Go cry fatties

>> No.13598165

>>13591666
abs depend on bodyfat percentage so...

>> No.13598188

>b12
>not iodine or boron or other rare earth minerals
you can be deficient in b12 for years and be fine as long as you haven't had any bodily harm. But you'll drop dead without metals vital to organ function.

Show me the last time you saw an article about iodine deficiency

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>>13597665
>All I need to do is repeat vegan talking points
>I heard a professional liar say them
>So I'll use them too!!

>> No.13599155

>>13591229
Onions
Basedboy

>> No.13599189

>>13594612
It does mean the body is cannibalizing itself in and effort to restore lost nutrients which affects cognitive function

>> No.13599374
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holy shit is this why my brain feels "cloudy" when i forget to take my B12 pills?

>> No.13599391

>>13598188

iodine is added in table salt so even if you are fucking your body with a vegan diet as along as you eat a bit of table salt you should be fine.

>> No.13599396

>>13599155
Soy
nice try false flagger

>> No.13599432

>>13599396
actually is soyboy filtered and not soy? test

>> No.13599490
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>>13597474
>B12 via Marmite
You have to know what you are actually doing to be vegan and not mess yourself up. Each meal becomes homework. It's easier to just eat a steak if you don't know or care to learn all the rules to stay healthy while being vegan.

>> No.13599491

>>13594857
Extremely paranoid of a lot of things that actually contain essential nutrients, thus refusing to eat them. Imagine someone who refuses to buy anything in the grocer because they think even the "organic" quinoa was harvested by slave labour for example
Or its just anorexia by this point

>> No.13599496

>>13596977
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/144827.php

>> No.13600100
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>>13599491
Point is- Veganism and pro-Ana overlap to a degree where they are two sides of the same coin.

>> No.13600228

>>13596977
Chicken eggs and butter?
Fuck me this is not going to work. Dump the chicken, and switch to grass fed beef which you eat rare, and organic high quality eggs and eat the yolks raw. Add raw milk in and good luck.

You have to work in some organ meats as well.

>> No.13600323

>>13599374
Yeah, you need to take b12 irrelevant If you're vegan or not.
When I started taking it I felt better

>> No.13600556

>>13599491
>>13600100
are we really back on this again?
anorexia isn't fucking veganism. you fucking idiots know nothing about either of those and just look at the overlap and generalize that to the entirety of both groups. you cant actually be that stupid.

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>>13600556
>The overlap
>Between anorexia and Veganism

Your words. I look at the overlap between anorexia and Veganism and I start to figure out this death cult.

>> No.13600798

>>13600676
you ever seen the overlap between anorexics and omnivores? crazy, an omnivorous diet must be synonymous with anorexia and cause several nutrient deficiencies. Omnivores must be a death cult.
Your complete lack of understanding of vegans and anorexics is showing, fucking idiot.

>> No.13600860

>>13590641
You're confusing vegans with vegetarians who eat a shitload of dairy

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>>13600798
>you ever seen the overlap between anorexics and omnivores? crazy, an omnivorous diet must be synonymous with anorexia and cause several nutrient deficiencies. Omnivores must be a death cult.

You are the one who just made an idiotic statement. Challenge the vegan cult and these nutjobs go straight off the rails as evidenced by your seething ad-hom.

>> No.13601079

>>13597099
Lmao source?

>> No.13601092

>>13601079
Get your cringe protection before watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pNeQf6Kmdk

>> No.13601310

>>vegan hags hair is falling out.

Is she proud of this? What's the message?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJTczi2lRbQ

>> No.13601499

>>13600997
you make stupid points by continuously comparing anorexia with veganisms and concluding that the deficiencies from one are because of the other. I'm calling you a dumbass for making the same wrong argument made half a dozen times in this thread.
I'm not calling you a fucking idiot to win the argument, I'm calling you a fucking idiot because you've proven you're incapable of thinking anything other than vegan=anorexic

>> No.13601760

>>13590637
Don't mushrooms have good amoutns of B12, or is this just because most vegans eat peanut butter all day with an occasional slice of lettuce?

>> No.13601785

>>13601760
Only trace amounts, not enough to rely on

>> No.13601795

>>13601785
Not enough to rely on... unless you become a pure fungivore.

>> No.13601815

>>13590637
>what about iron?
Available from plant sources.
>wh-what about protein?
Available from plant sources.
>buh-buh-but what about B12???
Sorry, kid. Also available from plat sources. The deficiencies are from eating the wrong balance of plants, not from not eating animal products.

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>>13601499
Don't get so excited vegan, your weak failing teeth might fly out.

>> No.13601859

>>13601815
>This is what vegans tell themselves....

IRL vegans?? Completely different story.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Wry4ppywQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxAqytqLMtY

>> No.13601864

>>13601815
What's the right balance of plants without supplements?

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>>13601815
>Eat pack of cards size steak
>Get all the iron/protein/B12 you need
or
>Eat 40 broccoli

>> No.13601982

>>13601815

Good luck with all the incidental carbs you'll be eating by jamming 2lbs of beans into your gut every day to get your protein requirements. That is if you can find time to eat between the 30 shits you'll be taking throughout the day.

>> No.13602118

>>13591409
Kys

>> No.13602270
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13602270

It's surprising how insecure people get when talking about veganism. Some facts:
> Eating innocent animals for pleasure it's morally wrong.
> You can be 100% healthy following a vegan diet.
> Most of the anti-vegan youtubers are retarded and have zero idea about nutrition.

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>>13602118
Aprèz vous.

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>>13602270
At least we didn't die in infancy like most vegan babbies. Make sure your children are 100% vegan.

>> No.13602305

>>13602270
>>13602293

>> No.13602336

>>13602303
>>13602293
There are a lot of cases of parents letting their toddlers die of malnutrition, vegan or not. Those idiots should be imprisoned for life.
You must be retarded if you think this has anything to do with veganism.
The world's largest organization of food and nutrition professionals has announced its position on plant-based diets - and deemed them 'appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes'.

>> No.13602342

>>13593042
https://youtu.be/rijld8wqtuA

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>>13602336
>The world's largest organization of food and nutrition professionals has a

The AMA??

Fucking lol is this your first time here? That "position paper" was written by three professional career vegans.

>But -buuut these three vegans said it's healthy!!
>Dies

>> No.13602354

>>13602345
God you are retarded.

>> No.13602369

This thread is so messy and unstable. People cant decide if vegans are obsese or skinny

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>>but .. but the WHO said meat is a class 2 carcinogen!!
>>Eating bacon is like smoking two packs a day!!!
>>REEEEEEE
>>Literally dies.

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>>13602354
Scream it in the forest nutjob.

>> No.13602377

Why do you care so much if someone is a vegan?

Nobody is forcing you to become a vegan. At most they will try to convince you that killing animals is evil, and you shouldn't do it, but you just treat them like jehova's witnesses and command your dog to attack them, then they'll leave you alone.

>> No.13602378

>>13601092
Jesus this is sad

Veganism confirmed low test

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>>13602369
Both. "Healthy" food vegans are sickly skeletons, because kale smoothies and raw cabbage can barely keep a human alive. Junk food vegans can easily reach obesity considering the gobs of ultra-processed artificial chemical food they eat. (For a short time before their death)

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>>13602377
>Why do you care so much if someone is a vegan?

Because government is giving them legal protection (power) as a religion .....and taxes and bans on meat are coming. I prefer the vegans all die of malnourishment before they get the chance to force me into their starvation cult with them.

Die for your cult vegans, so I can stay healthy.

>> No.13602407

>>13602395
>and taxes and bans on meat are coming
In America? You're off your rocker. We are SO far in the opposite direction it's ridiculous. But I do loves me some gubmint-subsidized animal protein.

>> No.13602421

>>13602395
Muslims also have legal protection as a religion, so what

>> No.13602496

>>13591452
Yes, it is an extreme fad diet, it attracts some extremely dysfunctional individuals.

>> No.13602508

>>13596572
Sardines are an easy way to get B12, since you're basically eating the whole spine and all that nervous tissue.

>> No.13602551

>>13602407
US government does not subsidize the meat industry. Corn yes. Non-whites yes. And the vegan agenda shows itself in "food pyramid guidelines" where vegans take over all these agencies like the ADA, and presto-- every school is serving vegan food etc etc etc Veganism is gaining.
>>13602421
Now in England, land of cuckoldry, if someone disagrees with a protected, empowered special class "vegan" he's probably looking at jailtime if the precious vegan is upset.

So I might go to jail for a few years, no big deal right?

>> No.13602620

>>13602551
Seek help before you end up going berserker, loony.

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>>13602620
Nice projection cupcake.

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It's been a couple weeks since a retard vegan has died young. Next one pls step up.

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>>13593042
meet sverige

- more based than u
- Based
- bretty based
- rly based
- u wish u were this based
- B A S E D
- fuck you

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13603409

>>13594612
hah keep telling yourself that smolbrain

>> No.13603432

>>13591129
>getting vitamin D from animals
Just go outside, lmfao
>vitamin A is never found in plants
Okay, what retard made this pic. I'm not even a vegan, but some dumbass made that.

>> No.13604142

>indirectly correlated
>indirectly
>correlated
Nice science :D
Also every non-retarded vegan knows about B12.

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>>13604142
Cute, but there is no such thing as a non-retarded vegan.

>> No.13604424

>>13593042
Based

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>>13604424
Sv3rige is a pretty amazing person.

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>>13602293
I thought fruit and vegetables was proven to be the healthiest foods by far?

>Infant dies.

>> No.13604956

>>13590641
sugar comes from plants so it's okay!

I met a chunky vegetarian (sounds like a canned soup) who kept a whole drawer full of snickers. turns out beans and rice are nice but not when you add a milk chocolate chaser.

>> No.13605277

>>13590641
Every vegan I've ever met either smokes or takes drugs. None of them avoid alcohol either.

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>>13599490
>You have to know what you are actually doing

>Open jar
>spread marmite on toast
>???

If this is too complex for the average meatfag, then consuming the rotting flesh of decaying carcasses is obviously more detrimental to mental functions than I previously thought.

>> No.13605512

>>13605393
>marmite is bioavailable b12
yes i guess vegans brains are truly rotten but then again you are a reddit spacing midwit

>> No.13605586

>>13605512
Sounds like you're bullshitting, never heard of that before. Not that marmite isn't disgusting.

>> No.13606068

Brapppp

>> No.13606410

>>13590637
>>Later in life
How late are we talking?

>> No.13606831

>>13606410
Tomorrow

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>>13590637
Well I guess it's a good thing I eat both meat and vegetables and don't fall for fad diets isn't it?

>> No.13607186

>>13593042
lmao how'd he get away with stabbing 4 people? tell me the simple trick they don't want me to know

>> No.13607224

>>13607186
The authorities saw his plans (destroying Veganism) they instantly let him go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Wry4ppywQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxAqytqLMtY

>> No.13607272
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>>13607224
This guys jaw looks worse than mine did when I was eating through a feeding tube for a year. WTF

VeganGains looks pretty big. WTF are these niggas doing wrong? Shouldn't be that skinny

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>>13607224
>tfw boyfriend has low T.
lmfao

>> No.13607351

I'm a vegan and I browse /ck/ so yeah, it's likely to be true.

>> No.13607359

>>13607272
>VeganGains looks pretty big

he roids hard and is puffy and inflammed

>> No.13607364

>>13591003
I don't plan on ever having a kid but I just do the normal thing and use protection.
Granted, I'm a virgin, but still.

>> No.13607378

>>13602345
>altitude sickness
>tries to blame it on veganism
god you're fucking retarded

>> No.13607396

>>13607351
lol post teeth you sickly fuck

>> No.13607452

>>13602345
>no carnists ever died climbing everest
Good goy! Keep eating meat, thx!

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>>13607291
That dude is a true vegan cultist. Before he met his wife he was a firm "I don't ever want children because they harm the Earth" vasectomy cuck.

Then he married a radfem vegan slag who felt the same way, THEN SHE GOT OLD AND WANTED A BABY..... ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN YOUR BF IS A CASTRATO LOL.

(Not even kidding he's a vasectomy)

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13607471

B12 is in many more things than just meat. Many common vegan foods have added B12. There are B12 supplement pills in vegetable caps.

>> No.13607476

>>13591964
IT'S TERRY A. FUCKING DAVIS

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>>13607378
>The vegan tears start to flow....

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>>13607452
>Keep eating meat, thx!

I will, thanks. What's a "carnist?"

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>>13602345
>>13607378
>>13607479
>>13607487
My favorite Everest documentary. Fucking hilarious they got pissy at the guy with no legs. LMAO gimmie a break. Anyone who climbs that shit should know the risk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za1Wsg7LKj4

>> No.13607559

>>13593042
>>13593263
>>13593450
>>13603399
>>13604424
>>13604532
Thread discarded. I hope you never see again, retard sun gazers.

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>>13607559
>I hope you never see again, retard sun gazers.

"I hope you never see again." Veganism is already damaging this poor person's mind.

>> No.13608951

>>13607504
For the smartest Ape we sure are retarded.

>> No.13609793

>>13607224
Whites just age poorly
I'm not sure if veganism exacerbate it or not

>> No.13610030

>>13605512
>reddit spacing

Thank you for cinfirming that you are, indeed, someone who has never visited 4chan prior to 2017.

>> No.13610070

Vegans are literally using Protestant terms to rationalize their behavior. "Thriving" is a common goal in Christian rhetoric. All the more to realize that veganism is trying to be a fill in for these people lack of God in their hearts.

>> No.13610385

>>13607611
> Veganism is already damaging this poor person's mind.

You didn't understand what they said but are talking about minds lol

>> No.13610393

>>13610070
stop eating jesus

>> No.13610405

>>13610070
I'm a vegan and a Christian. Not a larp. Have any more theories?

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>>13610405
Eat whatever you want, but if you promote Veganism you are doing the devil's work.

>> No.13610806

>>13596019
link a fat vegan then

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>>13610806
There are a couple obese vegans on YouTube. Imagine eating tons of chips and junk food and mock meat products. Easily can achieve obesity on a processed vegan diet.

Edyn Jack's

>> No.13611340

>>13610440
I don't promote anything. My stomach can't handle the digestion of meat. I'm vegan out of necessity.

>> No.13611373

>>13611340
Of course I have no complaint if that's the case.

Did you try grass fed beef, cooked rare? Easiest thing in the world to digest.

>> No.13611786

>>13611340
>My stomach can't handle the digestion of meat.
You have an incredibly unhealthy gut biome. Stop drinking alcohol, eat lots of fermented foods and take high quality microbial supplements, preferably the refrigerated ones from health food stores. Your body is sick and you will die young if you don't fix your issues.

>> No.13611802

>>13611786
>>My stomach can't handle the digestion of meat.
Also increase your intake of vegetables and whole grains rich in dietary fiber. Start taking a decent quality multivitamin, and get some exercise. Slowly add more fat to your diet until your body can handle it again. Then start eating small quantities of lean meat like chicken.

>> No.13611838

>>13590637
I've never worked with any physician who was vegan who wasn't pakistani or indian. Every doctor knows the vegan mother has a low birthweight baby. Little shits that get neonatal care.
People with well educated scientifically speaking, have enough brains and education to only try extreme this or that when they get cancer, have a heart attack, or get an auto-immune disorder. It''s about controlling pain or symptoms like flare-ups. They don't fad diet, just omnivore it up with as much variety as possible, from sprouts to living superfoods, to lots of fresh fish, to acidulated water, and lots of supplements, but ehh, not vegan. They might take prescriptions to control hunger/cravings like SSRIs, drink a ton of tea and bottled waters, and enjoy red meat less frequently that other choices.

All recommendations and societies that promote healthy this or that are careful to use a double negative when advocating veganism such that they don't outright promote it. That's for a reason, they don't want to get sued. As far as we know, it can't hurt. It can be done by some people quite correctly.
>>13591415
>there are right and wrong ways of doing veganism, and anorexics love the wrong way because you can eat larger portions and lose weight, and have an excuse to turn down "bad" foods
They have very recently given a DSM disorder name to picky eaters.ARFID Its all one and the same. Anorexics control the one thing they can control, their food and diet and damn anyone who cares about them. It's a personality disorder. This is it. It's all they can do. The brain is damaged. It's not getting better. It's the same thing with picky eaters...they don't honestly just snap out of it or grow out of it. There is something going on in the brain. Obsession

>>13591774
>Why do vegans smell so bad?
"Anti-perspirant is toxic". Cumin/curry coming out of the pores. Also, depressive people avoid showering.

>> No.13612094

>>13611838
absolutely based post
fuck vegans

>> No.13612436

>>13611838
literally every person here comparing eating disorders with Veganism know nothing about either

>> No.13612514

>>13612436
Veganism is an eating disorder. It just involves more elaborate mental gymnastics.

>> No.13612616

>>13612514
>eat enough calories
>get good micros and macros
>eat high calorie foods
>literally only avoid only animal food because its not necessary
>still can have desserts and junk food
>no rigid eating structure
>no intense food anxiety
>literally only about not eating animal products

if an omnivore decided to not eat almonds because of how much water they use, nobody would call it an eating disorder, but youre a fucking idiot so idk if you can understand the differences

>> No.13612685

>>13612616
Imagine writing all this to justify your eating disorder.

>> No.13612689

>>13612685
>vegans have to do so much mental gymnastics to justify eating the way they do!
>displays olympic level mental gymnastics to think veganism is an eating disorder

>> No.13612758

>>13591003
>forcing a vegan diet on a carnivore animal

>> No.13612776

>>13591409
>They have their own subreddits
they're on 4chan(nel) too
>>>/fa/14975142

>> No.13612832

>>13590637
B12- nutritional yeast

>> No.13612878

>>13607364
That's the best protection.

>> No.13612885

>>13607458
You sound like a middle aged woman with a celebrity gossip magazine. Forget about these people. They're nobody.

>> No.13613001

>>13612689
>Restricted diet not based on any personal health issues (ex post facto justifications excluded)
>Not an eating disorder

>> No.13613049

Veganism is at it's core a fucking stupid idea. For one thing, the world doesn't have the proper land distribution to be able to grow enough plants to sustain 8 billion people on plants alone. If we did switch over to an all plant diet as a species, we would have to up our food exports tremendously which would contribute more to pollution, thus defeating the purpose of negating meat plant pollution. Also, the ideas vegans try to fight are intrinsic to american capitalist ideals. They make tons more meat than they will ever sell to keep supply high and demands suppressed to make sure meat costs are affordable. Getting rid of the meat industry wouldn't make those practices go away, they would just be delegated to other industries like soy, wheat, and corn. But you also don't see most of these vegans living off grid and forgoing Apple products or Amazon overnight shipping. Furthermore, vegetable diets don't not hurt animals. Millions of animals are killed or dehomed for farming. And lastly, vegans have 0 concept of how farming works. They all watched forks over knives or some other cherry picked documentary about some really bad farms that supply to really shitty chains and said "here's your precious meat industry!" The reality is that most farmed animals are treated exceptionally well because they have to be in order to produce a quality product. The only people eating the low end products are people forced to shop at places like Walmart or dollar general. While that is an issue, it's not nearly as bad an issue as these documentaries paint it to be, and we're moving away from bad farming practices every single day.

So to go back to the initial statement. Vegans have a lower IQ? Yeah, no shit.

>> No.13613069

>>13613049
I doubt most vegans put more thought into it than don't hurt the cute animals. All the other bullshit they spew is them trying to justify their decision.

>> No.13613083

>>13613049
All energy comes from the sun and it's lost as it's converted from one life form to another(plant->cow->human). If the meat we eat only ate byproducts of growing plant food then it'd be pretty efficient but as it is if people ate less meat we'd need to grow less plants.

>> No.13613087

>>13613069
Vegans out of ideology are retards. Environmental vegans are meh. Vegan for health/diet reasons are based.

>> No.13613095

>>13613087
>Vegan for health/diet reasons are based.
100% of these are ideological vegans and too embarrassed to admit it. The environmental ones are just dumb.

>> No.13613109

>>13613095
I know one vegan (out of 3) who only cares about the health aspect. It's pretty much always a mix of those factors but the ones who mostly care about the diet factor are fine. The ones who talk about the "vegan diet" instead of "veganism".

>The environmental ones are just dumb.
It is a valid point that should be respected. Too bad almost everybody like that is a massive hypocrite.

>> No.13613131

>>13613109
>It is a valid point that should be respected. Too bad almost everybody like that is a massive hypocrite.
They are all massive hypocrites, following environmental veganism to its ideological conclusions leads you to exterminationalism, eco terrorism or anarco-primitivism. Basically if you are an environmental vegan and you don't advocate for mass scale global genocide you are doing it wrong.

>> No.13613142

>>13613131
>ideological conclusions
Sounds like you're the one with some stupid ideologic believes here. You realise people don't need to go to the absolute extremes of whatever they believe in, right? Not consuming animal products does have a significant impact on your personal environmental aspect and that's good.

>> No.13613143

>>13590637
Where’s the plant-based musclemen doctors?

>> No.13613145

>>13590637
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx2YqUH7pMI

>> No.13613153

>>13613142
>aspect
Impact I mean.

It's just that vegans who argue with the environment usually still drive a car, fly in their vacation and buy products that were shipped all over the planet. Just to give 3 of the most common examples, if they also don't do these it's based. No need to go full autism.

>> No.13613172

>>13613153
Going vegan is already going full autism if you understand that your individual changes in behavior make absolutely no difference in terms of impact.

>> No.13613176

>>13613172
That's a literally retarded view there, basically nihilistic. Might as well go to the "logical conclusion" and either kill yourself or do whatever you want because your life doesn't matter in the grande sheme.

>> No.13613180

>>13613172
If everyone was able to justify things with the reasoning the world would be a far worse place.

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>>13613142
>Not consuming animal products does have a significant impact on your personal environmental impect and that's good.

In what way? You would be proud that more forests are cut down because of your food choices? Or do you hate cows and want them wiped off the flat Earth?

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>>13613145
What a (young) vegan doctor eats. Yeah he's young and only been vegan a couple years. (And there's no way to know if he's not eating meat on the sly to stay healthy)

Here's a 51 years old (vegan agenda advocate).

>> No.13613221

>>13613212
Cows will remain in India because the majority religion there worships them. There will be no need to cut down more forests because land used for livestock can provide a greater density of calories by growing plants.

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>>13590637
>>Later in life, the amount of B12 in a person’s blood has been directly correlated with their IQ. In the elderly, one study found that the brains of those with lower B12 were six times more likely to be shrinking.

ya there is a medical mystery video out there about a guy with a b12 deficiency. Does terrible things to the body. blood clots mental decline, no energy.

I take a daily vitamin every day with a small amount of peanuts to help with adsorption and I feel great. always take a daily vitamin.

I'm not a vegan but my regular diet is basically vegan because it is so convenient and cheap - mostly beans, oatmeal, potatoes, bread... I feel great now that I take a daily vitamin. No issues whatsoever.

>> No.13613224

>>13613220
What's wrong with him? The only things I see are male pattern baldness and premature sight impairment, both of which are genetic.

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>>13613143
Vegans have that "golden glow."

>> No.13613229

>>13613212
> top pic is corn most of which is used to feed animals that people eat, less corn would be needed if people ate the corn more often instead of the things that eat it
> bottom pic is mysteriously missing forests, I wonder where they went since cows don't need food or space and just grow without cutting down forests

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>>13613176
>Might as well .... do whatever you want because your life doesn't matter in the grand sheme.

Probably true, but I feel better paying a rancher to raise cows so they can have a life and enjoy the outdoors for a while. The vast grasslands are made for cows(ruminants)

I am forced to buy ethanol against my will, at gunpoint so there's nothing I can do about that, but vegans proudly happily buy vegetables products which cause and entail mass suffering in harvesting and horrific amounts of pesticides use, which is a criminal vandalism upon the Earth. Vegans don't give a fuck.

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>>13613221
You don't have to worry because cows will remain in the usual European places and Brazil, etc and other places.

>> No.13613257

>>13596019
I mean it's all they have to support their narrative, anti vegan aren't that dumb, they know that if they were to be fair and reasonable they'd get steamrolled.

>> No.13613259

>>13613176
>If i don't piss in this ocean of piss it will go away.

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>>13613224
He's stone dead at 51. Not to mention he looked 71. I hope the rest of the vegans screaming about how unhealthy meat is, follow him quickly.

>> No.13613269

>>13613247
>proudly happily buy vegetables products which cause and entail mass suffering in harvesting
What? Are you doing the "plants are sentient and feel pain" thing? If so you're retarded. Also the vegan mindset should be to buy seasonal and local products. And even if not it's miles better than buying meat/milk/etc.. It sounds more and more like you have no idea what you're talking about to be honest.

>"Vegans don't give a fuck."
>talking about environmental vegans
?
Many might be hypocritical but their ideology literally is caring about the planet so what you said makes no sense at all.

>> No.13613270

>>13613229
Nit-picking and sophistry the vegans only argument. Cows can and do thrive on the sparse grasslands and near-desert environment. Your avocadoes and quinoa ONLY grow on plowed over (fertile) forestlands.

Not that you give a fuck obviously.

>> No.13613273

>>13613269
>caring about the planet
>Not living in a cob house in the woods and growing or hunting 100% of your own food
Pick one

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>>13613257
The only time a anti-vegan was even allowed on TV, in the last ten years, ((((the vegans)))) packed the panel with 12 screaming vegans to shout him down.

12 to 1 is the vegans idea of "fair and balanced."

Saladino still won the argument anyway. Next time bring a hundred vegans lol.

>> No.13613284

I see the retards woke up for a quick shitposting round before school.

>> No.13613288

>>13613269
Environmental vegans or any other vegans do not give a fuck about the animals they kill, or the Earth they destroy with pesticides.

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>> No.13613301

>>13613270
> desert ecosystems don't matter let's just use 2 billion acres of it to raise 40 cows since it produces shit amount of calories and then feed the rest corn and soy while complaining about all the corn and soy we need to grow

>> No.13613302

>>13613288
>https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659
>the-vegetarian-meal
>Australia only
>"muh pesticides"
xd

>> No.13613316

>>13613302
>Go ahead and spray poison everywhere that kills animals, the environment, has countless effects on human biology, just don't kill any cows.

>> No.13613320

>>13590637
>I listen to big black cock
Holy shit. You can't make this up.

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>>13613301
>More sophistry and half-truths.

It's a waste of time talking to a blatant liar. Just stay vegan and die Young so I can laugh at you too.

>> No.13613328

>>13613316
You're retarded if you think the problem with agriculture is foods for human consumption. What was it, 2% overall?

>> No.13613330

>>13613326
cope

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>>13613328
>>13613229
>animals steal all our food

86% of livestock feed is inedible by humans[1]. They consume mainly grass and waste-products that would otherwise become an environmental burden. Only 13% of animal feed consists of human edible grains, which makes up a third of global cereal (not total crop) production. Grain-fed cattle eat grass for the majority of their life. They provide higher quality nutrients than they consume, which is why they contribute to global food security. The FAO estimates that we need 70% more animal products to feed the world by 2050.

[1] http://www.fao.org/ag/againfo/home/en/news_archive/2017_More_Fuel_for_the_Food_Feed.html

Vegans exploit more animals than other people. The Vegan Society has an ethical stance[1] against beekeeping, but many crops[2] are pollinated by domestic honeybees. Natural pollinators don't and can't exist in large enough numbers to support modern agriculture. It's practically impossible to have a nutritionally complete vegan diet without pollination, but meat causes no bee deaths even when it's grain-fed (wind pollination). Dairy is 2000 times more[3] ethical than almond milk.

[1] https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/honey-industry
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_crop_plants_pollinated_by_bees
[3] http://www.carnivoreisvegan.com/ethics-dairy-vs-almond-milk/

>> No.13613365

>>13613363
Aaaand there's the blogposter retard, posting his bullshit copypasta. Time to /out/.

>> No.13613370

>>13613365
>gets caught lying
>"muh bullshit"

>> No.13613386

>>13613363
AAAAAAAH BUT IF IT WEREN'T FOR COWS WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GROW THESE INEDIBLE CROPS YOU FUCKWIT
not even vegan
Also ultra-intensive livestock raising, which is the standard to provide americans with CHEAP meat, is way more harmful than fucking turnips nobody in his right mind would believe otherwise

>> No.13613395

>>13613386
Vegan Propaganda. More than half of fodder crops are grown on land completely unfit for food crops. It says so in the first source.

>> No.13613398

>>13613326
>that pic
>that comment
why can't people who enjoy meat, like I do, acknowledge the fact that the cattle industry is too big, menaces the environment and basically ends up making mystery meat for poor people.

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>>13613398
>Cramming 12 lies into a one-sentence post.

Impressive, even for an experienced liar.

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>>13613506
Then again, every vegan is.

>> No.13613702

>>13613506
OMG he's eating salad, do vegans really?

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>>13613702
No, they prefer to replace the nutrients in meat by importing products from other continents where they force children to work until they die.

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>not even vegan
>have the skelly soyboy frame because i can’t find the motivation to work out for more than a week

>> No.13613859

>>13613833
That's true for everybody you know, if you own electronic equipment, a car or else you're exploiting kids somewhere. Why are you so obsessed with vegans?

>> No.13613923

reminder that IQ unironically isn't even real

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>>13613844
That's ok. That's even healthy. Just eat a healthy diet including a lot of beef and you can live a long healthy life and never get obese (diabetes, early heart disease etc)
>>13613859
Because vegans are trying to force me into their starvation cult with them with laws taxes against meat.

>This doctor isn't vegan?
>Take away his license!

That's why I'm anti-vegan.

>> No.13613984

>>13613938
>vegans are trying to force me into their starvation cult
where? have they physically threatened you?

>> No.13613998

>>13613938
Are you confusing lab grown meat with vegans who want to shut down animal farming? Because its about how we need to breed a new animal for each human. Unrelated to vegans themselves

>> No.13614055

>>13613938
>Because vegans are trying to force me into their starvation cult with them with laws taxes against meat
I'll have things that happen only in the mind of a paranoid schizophrenic for $800, Alex.

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>>13613984
>>13613998
>>13614055
>>13614055
>A healthy dose of gaslighting
>While vegans are actively working to end all meat consumption.

Just die don't worry about gaslighting me.

>> No.13614153

>>13614136
Did you even read my post? People are making lab grown meat to replace the constant breeding of animals. It has nothing to do with vegans and veganism. Vegans are normal peope who choose to eat plants. Scientists are professionals who just work at making new lab grown meat.

Hope this clears things up, since you idiots are so anti vegan that you assume all scientists are evil vegans

>> No.13614180

>>13614136
I always knew the meat shills, with their jpg folder where gravitating into /x/ territory

>> No.13614426

>>13614136
bitch probably told him something that shattered his entire reality

>> No.13614500

>>13614180
that pic is .png if you take attention