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[Anonymous No.13467602]

How come there is not a big ramen chain out there? instant ramen is one of the most popular foods, so I'm sure there would be demand for something less instant.

[Anonymous No.13467648]

>>13467602
Open one and find out, Mr. Restaurant Genius. Report back in a year.

[Anonymous No.13467657]

>>13467602
Hakata Ikkousha has 70 stores worldwide, there's probably some other chains out there I'm not aware of

I'm guessing the reason why ramen in general isn't popular around the states or world or whatever is exactly because we've come to associate ramen with dollar store instant noodles. So opening a ramen restaurant in the midwest people would be like RAWMIN? AIN'T THEM THE DOLLAR TREE NOODLES THAT DONE COME IN A CUP? WHY IN THE GOD DAMN WOULD I WANT TO GO TO A RISTRANT AND PAY GOOD MONEY FOR INSTANT NOODLES??

[Anonymous No.13467661]

I've seen a couple local chains, at least. They're all good, too. They have the real pork broth simmered for half a day. I'm glad the real ramen is catching on. Ramen in restaurants used to be shit. It was barely above instant ramen quality.

[Anonymous No.13467697]

>>13467602

Instant ramen is better than fresh ramen

[Anonymous No.13467733]

>>13467657
>RAWMIN? AIN'T THEM THE DOLLAR TREE NOODLES THAT DONE COME IN A CUP
This is like the least midwestern accent I have ever seen typed

Quick tip, never use "aw" sounds if you are imitating a midwesterner, always use "ah"

Also I live in the midwest and can walk to like 5 ramen places, the problem is boomers, not regions. Most boomer neighborhoods have none, most millennial neighborhoods have plenty regardless of where you are

[Anonymous No.13467751]

>>13467602
>ramen oh so tasty mmmmmMmMm just for you 15 dorra pree gaijin, yes numba wan soup TWO MEAT ITEM ONRY pree...
*begins traditional chinese war dance*
>ooOooOh ramen numba wan jewrel of de orient in a bowerrrl
*bows deeply and sheathes katana*
>pree pree u won ramen step inside fifteen dorra u pay now pree
*strokes fu man chu and smashes a gong*

[Anonymous No.13467767]

I don't even know how regular japanese restaurants stay open in the suburban US
I can't imagine that cutting down your menu to one specific type of dish would help anything, even sushi bars have to serve some other japanese foods if they want a range of customers

[Anonymous No.13467776]

Ramen is the gook's attempt at spaghetti baulognessi

[Anonymous No.13467784]

>>13467602
>instant ramen is one of the most popular foods
Not all of us live in chinkworld

[Anonymous No.13467792]

>>13467767
whats really surprising is the fairly common sushi or hibachi places across the US didn't branch to include ramen too more often before independent ramen places started getting popular

[Anonymous No.13467796]

>>13467784
its been a college kid staple for generations, everyone is at least familiar with it

[Anonymous No.13467800]

This is just proof that the market has spoken. There aren't ramen chains around because there isn't a market for them. There's a market for McDonald's, Taco Bell, Chick-fil-A but not that garbage. Proving ramen is garbage.

[Anonymous No.13467803]

>>13467733
>Quick tip, never use "aw" sounds if you are imitating a midwesterner, always use "ah"
But that's how people pronounce "ramen" in English. Doesn't matter if you're from Boston or Fargo or Westchestchestershireton.

Like how "wasabi" is "wuhsawbeeee"

[Anonymous No.13467841]

>>13467803
just saying, midwesterners love "ah" sounds and do not like "au " or "aw" sounds

But really midwestern is the base US accent so it'll never be easy to type it out in a way that looks different yet accurate (if you want distinct phonology you have to go upper midwestern) unless you stick to vocabulary, but even then you should go with phrases like "cripes" or "aw jeez", your phrasing sounded southern if anything, which is basically the opposite of midwestern speak. Your whole thing in no way invokes midwestern speech

[Anonymous No.13468608]

>>13467733
awtism

[Anonymous No.13468615]

>>13467841
you're wrong flyover scum, the base US accent is a standard breadbasket east coast (noninflected NJ/NY, pennsylvania, maryland, delaware)

[Anonymous No.13468621]

Soup isn't fast food

[Anonymous No.13468636]

>>13467697
You're a fool.

[Anonymous No.13468656]

ramen isn't as easy to get right as you might think, and there is significant prep work on the back end. And mediocre ramen is truly awful. There's a chain in NYC that's trying and it's not really working as far as I've seen. Place is a mess Overall it doesn't scale well because it's kind of a specialized skill in a funny way, and average Americans might be put off by 18 dollar bowls of broth and noodles (a fair price)
t. former noodle cook

[Anonymous No.13468676]

>>13468615
No, Iowa is the most neutral accent

The midatlantic accent isn't particularly strong but its not the same thing

[Anonymous No.13468677]

>>13468608
if you wanted to say it more upper midwesterny you would say "ahtism"

[Anonymous No.13468704]

>>13467602
Ramen is hard to get right.
We had a Ramen-ya open up locally.
I went and ordered Shio Ramen, pretty basic.
It was barely above instant quality.
The broth wasn't particularly rich in flavor, the noodles limp. Even the egg was overdone.
I looked in the back, and it was all white guys cooking. Weeaboos do not make particularly good Japanese cooks.

[Anonymous No.13468707]

>>13467602
give it a couple decades, we got ramen restaraunts that aren't just hidden in asian neighborhoods in a lot of places now.

[Anonymous No.13468710]

>>13468656
Nigger $18 is near or even more than double ramen prices in Japan, if we exchange the currency correctly. $18 is not reasonable.

[Anonymous No.13468721]

>>13468656
>18 dollars
>(a fair price)
lmao fucking new york prices

[Anonymous No.13468727]

>>13468710
I feel like $12-16 is a normal price in the US from a non-chain sit down place. $18 sounds like a New York price maybe, but pretty high elsewhere

[Anonymous No.13468784]

>>13468727
>>13468721
>>13468710
Yes that is NYC, hello rent. Good bucatini is basically the same price.
But 12 - 15 is a stretch for most of the country still, you're telling people flavored water and noodles is comparable to ribs or a basic steak with potatoes and a side, and I don't know how that would work.

[Anonymous No.13468797]

>>13467602
I have local chains where I live and i'm in a pretty small part of Florida

[Anonymous No.13468799]

>>13468784
dude, I live in the midwest and I have absolutely no expectation of getting good ribs or steaks for less than $20

[Anonymous No.13468812]

>>13468799
Oh I didn't mean good I meant like Applebee's chain shit, that's what we're talking about right?
And the point stands, mediocre ribs are still ribs but ramen? Gross.

[Anonymous No.13468828]

>>13468812
Millennials have no interest in boomer chains with shitty American food, those aren't the competition to worry about. Almost all sit down cheap chains are dying

What they need to compete with is local asian places, or fast casual counter service places

People pay like $12-14 for a burger fries and a drink at 5 Guys, or a burrito and chips and drink at Chipotle or Qdoba. There are a ton of poke places popping up at above regular fast casual prices and seemingly doing great.
I think there is definitely a window for a fast casual ramen place

[Anonymous No.13468829]

>>13467602
>How come there is not a big ramen chain out there?

Blocks your path. Locations in: Australia, Cambodia, Canada, China, Finland, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Marianas, Mongolia, the Philippines, Singapore, South Korea, Thailand, the United States, Vietnam, Italy and Panama. Almost 600 in just China alone.

[Anonymous No.13468837]

>>13468829
I am sure he means big within the US

[Anonymous No.13468853]

I loved ramen until I went to japan
but after eating it every day for several months I don't think I ever want to eat it again

soba is what I like now

[Anonymous No.13468859]

>>13468828
Window sure but I'm not sure the price point makes it profitable. There is a lot of labor that goes into ramen, and the broth isn't cheap to make either. You don't need a solid prep team to make burgers or burritos, but with this you almost need more skill in the back than on the pick up. I've been there, I've seen it, I've sold two hundred bowls countless times. It's not something your average fry or grill cook can pick up. Good ramen is going to continue to come from small chef run joints, and all you you should honestly be greatful for that, because it doesn't get better when you go corporate and scale.

[Anonymous No.13468868]

>>13468859
oh no, I definitely do not expect such a thing to be better than what we have now, just kind of surprised it isn't yet a thing. I certainly have plenty of great local ramen places here in the upper midwest

[Anonymous No.13468929]

>>13468615
lol no not even
t. canuck

[Anonymous No.13468952]

>>13467602
I'll give you a quick rundown
people under 40 like legit ramen. They also hate chains.
Boomers think ramen is poor college student food full stop. They don't mind chains and will often seek them out because economies of scale means lower prices and uniformity means familiarity.

The market for a large chain of ramen shops isn't there or at least nobody has cracked the code

[Anonymous No.13468959]

>>13467733
that was a southerner though

[Anonymous No.13468962]

>>13468952
>wat is generation X?
Over 40 =/= boomer, dumbfuck.

[Anonymous No.13468967]

>>13468615
yeah man because we all sound like bam margera get your head out of your ass they call it ohio standard for a reason fuck off

[Anonymous No.13468986]

>>13468853
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[Anonymous No.13469009]

>>13468615
lol wtf is your malfunction delusional breadbasket boy?

[Anonymous No.13469026]

>>13467697
Stop keking you kekold

[Anonymous No.13469061]

How do you guys feel about Ichiran?

[Anonymous No.13469129]

>>13469061

overrated desu, most other ramen I had was noticeably better. Broth was ok, too many vegetables, no part of it really stood out as spectacular. I liked the little booths though.

[Anonymous No.13469139]

>>13469129
the little matcha dessert I got was my favorite part.

[Anonymous No.13469143]

>>13468710
new york. new york rent.

[Anonymous No.13469157]

>>13467602
Mongolian BBQ. We eat obsene amounts of it and put in basically as much of anything that we want. I like mine extra spicy.