/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.13442205]

Why the FUCK are soybeans used in so many food and beverage products?

>tfw there’s even soy in my jarred pasta sauce from Trader Joe’s

[Anonymous No.13442215]

The US grows a lot of soy , number one producer in the world and it is subsidized by the government

[Anonymous No.13442217]

>>13442205
its so cheap it would cost more to use nothing instead of soy

[Anonymous No.13442884]

>>13442205
Farm subsidies means tax dollars get used for pesticide-ready crops so the pesticide companies can sell the plants and pesticides to the farmers for the subsidy bucks. The companies are the ones who lobbied for the subsidies for the farmers.

[Anonymous No.13442889]

>>13442217
kek.....its true though

[Anonymous No.13442899]

>>13442205
It's part of the global effort to emasculate western males.

[Anonymous No.13442909]

>>13442205
There isn't. You'd probably actually know this if /pol/ wasn't your brain filter.

[Anonymous No.13442912]

>>13442205
>Why the FUCK are soybeans used in so many food and beverage products?

>>tfw there’s even soy in my jarred pasta sauce from Trader Joe’s

[Anonymous No.13442920]

>>13442909
even if it's pure coincidence, it's still not good

[Anonymous No.13442924]

>>13442205
Soy and corn are the cheapest and (thanks to genetic engineering) easiest to grow in soil saturated in Glyphosate. Since soy and corn have complimentary amino acids, when eaten within a few hours of one another, can be used to produce whole chain protein. It's basically just soylent yellow.

"Soylent Corporation first introduced Soylent Yellow in 1999, and the break through protein cake has been a family favorite ever since. Combining the taste sensation of real seafood flavors with the latest in dietary science, Soylent Yellow is the only food you’ll ever need!"

And there you have it, just another step towards totalitarian control over your every decision.

[Anonymous No.13442932]

>>13442920
There is no coincidence. I dont see any soy in fruits, vegetables, oats, bread, dairy, eggs, etc.

You're already eating like shit if you have to make sure if your food has soy additives. Its in junk food like chips and cookies. And its there because its dirt cheap

[Anonymous No.13442933]

>>13442920
>it's still not good

Explain why

[Anonymous No.13442969]

>>13442924
"Soylent Corporation first introduced Soylent Yellow in 1999, and the break through protein cake has been a family favorite ever since. Combining the taste sensation of real seafood flavors with the latest in dietary science, Soylent Yellow is the only food you’ll ever need!"

[Anonymous No.13444261]

>>13442205
>Why the FUCK are soybeans used in so many food and beverage products?
I feel the same way.
I see shit in the grocery store that I can't imagine why in the world they felt the need to add soy to it.

[Anonymous No.13444275]

>>13442205
it's cheap vegetable protein

[Anonymous No.13444357]

>>13442205
do you know that usa grows more soybean than china. literally more than 10x.

[Anonymous No.13444366]

>>13442205
>soy in pasta sauce

thats nothing

[Anonymous No.13444383]

>>13442924
You sure the hysterical mindset of finding food able to grow in exponentially higher amounts and contains high amounts of protein (for a plant) is primarily for controlling your decision in food or to meet the demands of an ever continuously overpopulated earth with unsustainable dietary requirements?

[Anonymous No.13444422]

>literally complaining about having vegetable content in your foods

You fucking fat fucks

[Anonymous No.13444428]

>>13444366
more concerned about the sugar than soy desu

[Anonymous No.13444441]

>>13444366
Ingredients are listed by weight, so since there's less soy protein concentrate than there is soy oil, I'm guessing that it's probably some flavor enhancer made from hydrolyzed soy protein rather than trying to skimp on the amount of meat.

[Anonymous No.13444442]

>>13444422
beans/legumes are more like grains than vegetables

[Anonymous No.13444451]

>>13444442
Yeah and you don't eat enough of either

[Anonymous No.13444457]

>>13444441
>>13444428

you can see the chunks of textured soy protein

[Anonymous No.13444460]

>>13444457
Oh god, that explains the macros then.

[Anonymous No.13444466]

>>13442920

[Anonymous No.13444472]

>>13444366
>soya
>soy
Why do they do this?

[Anonymous No.13444474]

>>13444366
throw it out
you don't need all that estrogen in your life

[Anonymous No.13444479]

>>13442924
>saturated in Glyphosate
Glyphosate is quickly degraded in the soil.

[Anonymous No.13444490]

>>13444479
>t. Monsanto rep

[Anonymous No.13444497]

>>13444479
yeah all those farmers got cancer from not wearing enough sunscreen

[Anonymous No.13444508]

>>13444451
i eat almost a full pound of green veg just with dinner every day, you don't know me bitch

[Anonymous No.13444533]

>>13444466
Why is it that whenever someone says eggs are good, people start screaming about the studies being funded by the egg industry and biased but when it comes to soy the studies are always presented as 100% trustworthy? Would no one benefit from dispelling the biggest fear about a hugely profitable crop?

[Anonymous No.13444537]

>>13442205
capitalism
>BUT MUH SOYBOY COMMUNISTS
t. faggot who eats government soy fast food and doesnt even realize it
maga amirite bros?

[Anonymous No.13444539]

>>13444533
people criticize loma linda studies a lot because the university is run by a religious group that promotes vegetarianism. anyway, it makes sense for people to look at the benefits of what they like, you just need to also look at studies by opponents to see which one is most valid to get the full picture.

[Anonymous No.13444541]

>>13444537
MAGAtards are unironically some of the dumbest people on earth, only ahead of the mentally disabled and uneducated in third world countries in intellect.

[Anonymous No.13444546]

>>13444541
>only ahead of the mentally disabled and uneducated in third world countries in intellect.
That's what you think

[Anonymous No.13444547]

>>13444546
Nope, it’s a fact.

[Anonymous No.13444548]

>>13444537
Yup.

[Anonymous No.13444555]

>>13444548
>it's basically a caffeine pill
i see this happening a lot, they try to mask that it's just a caffeine pill by saying it's yerba mate powder, or green coffee extract, or whatever. not that caffeine is entirely bad but tricking people into taking more of it is questionable.

[Anonymous No.13445096]

>>13444497
What do you mean "all those farmers"? The prosecutors were representing some school groundskeeper in that case. The case also banned the use of FDA toxicology reports after 1995 as evidence and was tried in a state court in the Bay (San Francisco) area

[Anonymous No.13445103]

WE LOVE OUR FARMERS, FOLKS

[Anonymous No.13445140]

>>13444533
Do you have ANY solid evidence supporting your claim that soy consumption affects hormone levels in men?

[Anonymous No.13445152]

>>13444357
Why does paraguay have an extra section?

[Anonymous No.13445159]

>>13444466
>American Researchers

[Anonymous No.13445167]

>>13442205
Because you are an American, it is your duty to eat soybeans and corn whilst singing the Star-Spangled Banner in between bites. After that you must die for country in a foreign land.

[Anonymous No.13445416]

>>13442969
>>13444383
>the hysterical mindset
For everyone who doesn't know, I was quoting a very old dystopia movie, Soylent Green, in which the predecessor product, soylent yellow was made of vegetable protein. Hence the quotes. My post was sardonic, though I still find the parallels interesting.

[Anonymous No.13445421]

>>13444366
>eat processed food
>it contains ingredients common in processed foods
OH NO BROS HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN

[John "Big Cuck" Carmack(...) No.13445430]

This is why we need to start eating more raw garlic and onion!!!

[Anonymous No.13445462]

>>13442205
Mostly functionality. Making processed isn't easy, soy is part of what makes it work. Other plant and animal proteins can perform the same functions, but not as cheaply.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1541-4337.2007.00025.x#t7

[Anonymous No.13445690]

>>13442215
Don't lie, Brazil is #1 producer of Soy.

[Anonymous No.13445779]

>>13444533
why is it that everyone is constantly complaining about corn being in everything but if you're concerned about soy you're an infowars watching conspiracy theorist?

[Anonymous No.13445802]

>>13445779
Corn was the same way a few years back. Pretty much all mass-produced food is just garbage, the only way to escape it is to make everything fresh from homegrown fruits and veggies. But most people are lazy fucks that would rather complain than do anything about it.

[Anonymous No.13445812]

>>13442205
Mostly government subsidies, but to a lesser extent tranny and vegan cultures have a pretty big hard on for it.

[Anonymous No.13445828]

>>13445421
>processed food
its just canned tuna in oil.

[Anonymous No.13445848]

>>13445152
All the soybeans were killed in the war.

[Anonymous No.13445853]

>>13445812
Yeah all those thousands of vegans and trannies worldwide have such a massive economic capital

[Anonymous No.13445855]

>>13445828
>retard doesn't understand that processed food is processed

[Anonymous No.13445862]

>>13445855
>hurrr is normal for soy to be like, everywhere

why would you expect soy in "canned tuna"?
next you're going to tell me its normal to find soy in soda because its "processed"

[Anonymous No.13445870]

>>13442884
comfy

[Anonymous No.13445904]

>>13445853
gaslight harder faggot

[Anonymous No.13445906]

>>13445862
You can get oil from soy. Vegetable oil tends to primarily contain soy oil.

[Anonymous No.13445910]

>>13442205
Didn't read thread, I'll leave it open while I shit shower and shave and reply to any queries.

Google Soy Symposium, a global initiative to push soy into the center of human food consumption world wide. Soy, like Canola oil, is essentially fabricated toxic carcinogen shit nobody should be eating, made only via GMO. Go watch how these oils are made and then compare them to olive or nut oils.

Soy does a lot of things for a lot of foods, stuff that more expensive crops used to do. Trader joe has stopped caring about you as well as themselves and their product, that is why they cut costs by using soy oils. Good food from people who care about you dont do this.

[Anonymous No.13445986]

>>13445862
>how'd you expect commodities in food?
>normal canned tuna
Please explain what normal means, generally factory made foods will include the cheapest possible ingredients when you decide to pay the lowest possible price for them fucktard.
And yes you will probably find soy in certain sodas too depending on their formulations.

[Anonymous No.13446005]

>>13445986
there was no soy chunks in canned tuna 20,30 years ago

shits fucked

[Anonymous No.13446011]

>>13445910
Buckle up, guys, looks like the soymaster has arrived. This thread is in for a wild ride.

[Anonymous No.13446087]

>>13444466
eat the soy goyim

[Anonymous No.13446108]

>>13444537
>>13444541
>>13444547
samefag

[Anonymous No.13446404]

>>13446005
Yeah and people used to rub sticks together to make fire too

[Anonymous No.13447109]

>>13445828
>tuna, sugar, chili, spices, seasonings and bayleaf
>just canned tuna in oil
NO BROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

[Anonymous No.13447121]

>>13445910
>Soy, like Canola oil, is essentially fabricated toxic carcinogen shit nobody should be eating, made only via GMO.
>Soybeans were a crucial crop in East Asia long before written records began.[67] There is evidence for soybean domestication between 7000 and 6600 BC in China, between 5000 and 3000 BC in Japan and 1000 BC in Korea.[68] Prior to fermented products such as fermented black soybeans (douchi), jiang (Chinese miso), soy sauce, tempeh, nattō, and miso, soy was considered sacred for its beneficial effects in crop rotation, and it was eaten by itself, and as bean curd and soy milk.

[Anonymous No.13447126]

>>13446404
>dude its just like...

not an argument

[Anonymous No.13447249]

>>13447126
Shut up and eat your bugs, goy!

[Anonymous No.13447326]

>>13442205
Ok I give up. Where's the black man's face?

[Anonymous No.13447377]

>>13442899
Huh?

[Anonymous No.13447395]

>>13442205
Soy milk isn't that bad but tofu no matter what form is disgusting.

[Anonymous No.13448133]

Black/pinto beans are a better phytoestrogen food anyway, they're based

[Anonymous No.13448141]

>>13442205
They're a cheap, useful texturing/thickening agent.

[Anonymous No.13448176]

On a related note is corn syrup really any "worse" for you than muh real cane sugar? They're both pure empty calories.

[Anonymous No.13448393]

>>13444466
Nobody claimed it lowered testosterone, they claimed it mimicked estrogen. Soy industry answered the wrong question.

[Anonymous No.13448396]

>>13445855
There is no consistent definition of "processed food".

[Anonymous No.13448407]

>>13448393
>they claimed it mimicked estrogen.
Yes which it literally says has no negative effects.

[Anonymous No.13448413]

>>13448407
Not in the summary posted here.

[Anonymous No.13448425]

>>13444444

[Anonymous No.13448438]

>>13448413
So what other negative effects does it have then aside from the ones proven to not exist?

[Anonymous No.13448449]

>>13448438
Nobody proved anything. People answered an unrelated question and claimed it was relevant. This is the kind of behavior you get from politicians. It's either incompetent or malicious.

[Anonymous No.13448508]

/pol/ here

It is white genocide orchestrated by George Soros and Killary from a «pizza» parlor in Washington dc. The libtards want to turn every man into trannies. They think being a white male is racist.

[Anonymous No.13448511]

>>13448449
It does seem kind of disingenuous to publish a negative result on testosterone when the relevant concern is with estrogen, and I agree it seems malicious when you read between the lines.

My progenitors surely ate a fuckton of soy in their lifetimes though, much more so than I do, so I'm personally not too worried about it for my own sake.