Veganism

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Veganism Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:24:44 2019 No.13435992 [Reply] [Original]

Why aren't you vegan?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:26:25 2019 No.13435997 >>13435992 because I am not a homosexual.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:26:38 2019 No.13435999 veganism is for gayfers

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:28:19 2019 No.13436006 I am, except copious amounts of semen

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:28:45 2019 No.13436009 >>13435992 I am a vegan, what the hell are you even talking about?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:30:40 2019 No.13436019 >>13435992 Because I love vegetables AND meat. Also because I'm not a virtue-signaling faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:31:06 2019 No.13436021 Other than inconvenience, whats in for me? Feels like a regular diet is the most practical, which is the best thing, I dont want to have to look up for alternatives to get all necessary nutrients, when i can easily do it having a balanced normal diet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:32:09 2019 No.13436027 >>13435997 Your lack of female sex contact begs to differ >>13435999 A prime candidate you are then

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:32:47 2019 No.13436034 >>13436027 >Your lack of female sex contact begs to differ I'm afraid I've been having carnal relations with your mother every night for the past 17 years... Son.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:32:56 2019 No.13436035 File: 150 KB, 363x336, lmao.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] because i get so much fucking pleasure out of eating meat

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:34:34 2019 No.13436043 >>13436019 >LOL I DONT VIRTUE SIGNAL IM A REAL MAN NOW Cool virtue signal >>13436021 What is unbalanced and abnormal about veganism? Its practical in all stages of life

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:35:52 2019 No.13436046 >>13436019 this

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:36:45 2019 No.13436052

>>13436043
>What is unbalanced and abnormal about veganism? Its practical in all stages of life
unironically, every IRL vegan I've ever seen looks 10-20 years older than they actually are. You try to tell me cutting out an entire food group is healthy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:38:44 2019 No.13436063 >>13436052 It's perfectly healthy. I can't control what anecdotes you experience. Every essential nutrient is practically obtainable

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:39:00 2019 No.13436066 what's wrong with dairy and eggs stupid vegans

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:42:12 2019 No.13436085 >>13436052 >You try to tell me cutting out an entire food group is healthy. So is not eating bugs unhealthy?

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:43:48 2019 No.13436093
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>>13436085
bugs are not a human food group, you fucking retard. I hope you enjoy being paralyzed for life on your next fall due to your fragile old man bones basically being made of glass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:44:56 2019 No.13436098 File: 177 KB, 853x565, Screen Shot 2019-12-30 at 17.44.32.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13435992 >Why aren't you vegan?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:45:53 2019 No.13436104 >>13436027 >n-no u Female-tier levels of banter.

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:46:21 2019 No.13436106

>>13436066
Ethically, environmentally, medically: Bad. Dairy industry artificially inseminates cows against their will. Steals their calves for veal, treats the cows horribly. Kills the cows years ahead of their natural lifespan when they no longer can produce milk at the unsustainable rates they're forced to. Filled with saturated fats and hormones that contribute to heart disease and cancer. Eggs more or less the same story, male chicks taken and grinded up, hens killed when they cant lay enough eggs. All environmentally bad considering the resources and emissions from their use.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:47:16 2019 No.13436114 >>13435992 because i have a penis and i like genetic women

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:48:21 2019 No.13436116

>>13436093
They are, little children like you are just too picky to eat them. Its historically been one of the most primary nutritious foods for early man and millions still eat them as a snack or for sustenance

>>13436098
Breathing is also a woman's lifestyle. It seems you have been doing a lot of that through your mouth

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:49:30 2019 No.13436124 >>13436104 >y-youre g-gay (x2!) Closeted virgin evels of cope

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:49:42 2019 No.13436126 >>13436093 >nooooo you can’t deviate from the food pyramid!!! I hope you’ll be able to see how silly you are one day

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:51:15 2019 No.13436134 File: 114 KB, 474x494, 1577674053275.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13436124 I didn't call anyone gay, femoid. Post tits.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:52:17 2019 No.13436138 I don't want to be a vegan and there is nothing you can do about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:53:30 2019 No.13436142 >>13436116 Post tits.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:53:57 2019 No.13436145 >>13436114 >i have a penis None visible to the human eye, anyways. >i like genetic women Then why aren't you having sex with them?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:55:12 2019 No.13436152 >>13436134 >>13435997 Alternative facts again eh? Seems like you ran out of virgin banter.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:55:43 2019 No.13436154 >>13436145 >>13436152 Post tits.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:56:31 2019 No.13436160 >>13436142 I will. Just lift your shirt up and send me a picture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:57:16 2019 No.13436165 >>13436160 Post tits, femoid.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:58:33 2019 No.13436175 >>13436154 Lift your shirt up and send me a picture.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 15:59:35 2019 No.13436179 >>13436165 I will. I just need you to lift your shirt up. Preferably moving your 4 chins out of the way, then send me a picture of that. And I will post it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:01:42 2019 No.13436190 >>13436179 Are you ok, tumblrina? You went from tumblr-tier "banter" to just not making sense.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:02:19 2019 No.13436194 >>13435992 because i enjoy wearing leather boots.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:02:34 2019 No.13436197 File: 54 KB, 1019x426, 1559680342752.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] As usual, vegan envy is actually just penis and sex envy. Because carnist incels are low T, low IQ, betas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:03:47 2019 No.13436205 >>13436190 Is this that really the best you could comeback with? You must be getting very emotional, that was very easy to comprehend.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:04:48 2019 No.13436213 >>13436194 Wear pleather then.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:04:48 2019 No.13436214 >>13436205 Males don't have tits, tumblrina.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:04:55 2019 No.13436217 >>13436106 Imagine a lion or wolf or even a regular cat caring about any of this stupid shit in relation to its prey, this is stupid suicidal brainwashing and I just know you look like a typical soyboi cuck

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:06:00 2019 No.13436222 File: 253 KB, 1300x956, powerofveganism.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13436197 Most people in vegan rallies are overweight women. Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:07:25 2019 No.13436227 File: 38 KB, 600x600, 1532986103909.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >mfw my diet is almost entirely vegetables but I still eat meat and animal products every few days

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:09:01 2019 No.13436241 File: 80 KB, 736x477, peta.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Damn, vegans are truly Chads. All those ripped people at the gym must be vegans.

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:10:42 2019 No.13436253

>>13435992
Because I'm a HUMAN BEING, which means I'm an omnivore.
The vegan diet cannot supply the basic nourishment the human body demands.
You might be able to survive on it with the use of supplements, but you won't be healthy.

Also, the vegan diet is bad for the environment as most of the plants have to be shipped form around the world.
And many animals, like snakes, rodent, and bunny rabbits are KILLED in the process of growing vegetables.
All vegans have the blood of animals on their hands.

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:10:43 2019 No.13436254

>>13436214
No, but they develop tit looking breasts from gyno, like you do.

>>13436217
Oh you're a kitty cat now? I suggest you lick your nuts one last time, neuter them since they're not going to good use anyways, then put a muzzle on because that's the dumbest fucking comparison I've ever heard.

>>13436222
I see one overweight woman

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:11:05 2019 No.13436257 Lots of meatfags in here spinning alternative facts. Ever heard of heart disease, stroke, and cancer? All come from meat sources and none from veggies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:12:28 2019 No.13436261 >>13435992 Because I am an omnivore. Why would someone go against their own body by limiting their nourishment options?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:12:37 2019 No.13436263 File: 211 KB, 960x640, rally-3337294_960_720.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Damn, look at these high T athletes. How can we compete, carnist bros?

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:13:48 2019 No.13436268
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>>13436253
You can be vegan as a human being just fine. What nourishment is not met by veganism?
>You might be able to survive on it with the use of supplements, but you won't be healthy
Cool story
>Also, the vegan diet is bad for the environment as most of the plants have to be shipped form around the world.
This is different from the food supply in general how? The pollution, land use, efficiency, and carbon emissions on a vegan diet are the most sustainable of any diet in the world
>And many animals, like snakes, rodent, and bunny rabbits are KILLED in the process of growing vegetables.
Significantly less than any other

So what's your excuse again?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:14:16 2019 No.13436270 >>13436254 YASSS QUEEN SLAY those catty "n-no u" quips are surely btfoing the carnist patriarchy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:14:52 2019 No.13436276 >>13436116 >Breathing is also a woman's lifestyle. If you aren't able to distinguish a necessary body function from a chosen lifestyle, no wonder you're stupid enough to become a vegan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:14:58 2019 No.13436277 >>13436261 How are you going against your own body? You can survive and thrive on veganism Do you drink your piss and eat your shit too as not to limit your nourishment options?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:23:21 2019 No.13436307 >>13436270 Great virgin banter again. Lift yourself shirt up, sugartits >>13436276 You didnt make the distinction to begin with. Why aren't you abandoning the womanly lifestyle of bitching about absolutely nothing?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:23:23 2019 No.13436308 >>13436268 Serious question: Why are you forcing yourself to eat an unnatural diet? Do you think its healthy? (its not) Do you "do it for the animals"? Why? I'm genuinely curious.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:23:50 2019 No.13436311 >>13435992 Because I like being omnivore. Why aren't you omnivore? (Well... I guess biologically you ARE an omnivore. That's not what I'm asking.)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:27:22 2019 No.13436325 >>13436308 What makes it unnatural and why does that even matter? >its not Why not? >do it for the animals Yes, every animal including you. >>13436311 Biologically we resemble frugivorous chimps. We're more than capable of being herbivorous though

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:27:56 2019 No.13436329 File: 273 KB, 1300x956, powerofveganism2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13436307 Why are femoids so bad at banter?

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:30:35 2019 No.13436343

>>13436308
>>13436268
Also, how do you think animals die in nature?

I'll tell you how. They usually die a slow and painful death from starvation, sickness or desease.
Not a fun way to go, but that is the reality of nature and our existence here on planet earth.
Now animals killed for food only have to endure a few seconds of pain before they are killed.
Thats a much better way to die than the way animals die in nature, or the way most humans die.
I would much rather die the way a chicken does on a farm than slowly waste away from cancer for 6 months.

I agree that there are practices in factory farming that are cruel, but you don't have to buy factory farmed meat.
There are now many pasture raised, organic options for meat supply. The animals in these types of farms live better lives than animals in nature.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:31:36 2019 No.13436347 >>13436329 I don't know. You'd understand a lot easier considering your breast size and emotional stability.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:31:56 2019 No.13436352 >>13436325 Biologically you are an omnivore. And that doesn't answer my question. Probably I just worded it incorrectly. Why do you adopt a herbivore lifestyle, despite being biologically omnivore?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:32:44 2019 No.13436353 >>13435992 because I'm not a homosexual

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:33:47 2019 No.13436358 File: 1.20 MB, 2000x1500, carnieswatchout.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13436347 >n-no u Wow, carnist bigots are CANCELLED,sis!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:34:25 2019 No.13436363 >>13436257 Refined sugars, ethanol, and transfats come from plants. Plants are notably more medically dangerous than any animal-based food sources.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:35:35 2019 No.13436370 >>13436363 Not every plant is meant for food, especially if heavily processed. That's why I said veggies.

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:35:56 2019 No.13436371

>>13436343
Many animals die a peaceful natural death, many die from disease, many are killed by predators. Why does that mean we should prematurely kill them? Do you believe in killing humans after 30 or letting them live their lives? Because the logical conclusion to stopping hypothetical animal suffering isn't to mass genocided them. Using them as food source only leads to their gradual habitat displacement and actual slow painful deaths, totally wholly unnecessary

> agree that there are practices in factory farming that are cruel, but you don't have to buy factory farmed meat.
There are now many pasture raised, organic options for meat supply. The animals in these types of farms live better lives than animals in nature.
So brutally killing something just because you gave it a brief "good life" is justifiable? Can I kill you for food when you reach a certain point of content?

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:38:23 2019 No.13436383

>>13436307
>You didnt make the distinction to begin with. Why aren't you abandoning the womanly lifestyle of bitching about absolutely nothing?

I see your reading comprehension is also compromised by your stupidity. You can get mad at everyone and point fingers everywhere; your idiocy is not our fault. Don't worry, kid. You'll grow up. Eventually.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:41:45 2019 No.13436394 >>13436352 We are frugivorous. And I did answer, why does it matter? Even if we presuppose we are omnivorous. Who cares when we do fine as vegans?

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:43:27 2019 No.13436404

>>13436371
I have to go now, but I will close with this:

You will begin to notice negative health consequences of your vegan diet within a couple of years of being on it.
Please understand that you don't have to be on this ridiculous diet.
It is a false and artificial "morality" that you are imposing on yourself.

When your health begins to decline, accept your humanness and go by some organic free range eggs and wild caught salmon.
Your body will thank you.

You're in a cult. You don't have to live this way.
Good luck.

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:45:47 2019 No.13436418

>>13436370
But heart disease, stroke, and cancer come from refined sugars, ethanol, and transfats. I have nothing against unrefined, heirloom fruits and vegetables crops, but your argument is really shaky. It sounds more like your argument is against commercially refined plant-based agricultural crops, but you came to the wrong conclusion in the final step because of your prejudices. Well, have a nice day.

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:46:13 2019 No.13436421

>>13436394
>We are frugivorous
Oh God, they're the worst. Literally the craziest of all vegans.
You won't last 10 years on that diet, and you are already doing permanent damage to your organs by just being on this diet for a few months.

There's a reason most vegans distance themselves from you. Sick cult.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:46:49 2019 No.13436424 >>13436394 >why does it matter? It doesn't. That's the point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:48:33 2019 No.13436432 >>13436358 Man I wish I was still a virgin so I had your level of banter >>13436363 Trans fats are in dairy as well

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:48:50 2019 No.13436435 >>13436418 Have a nice day sir.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:52:21 2019 No.13436450 File: 339 KB, 1500x998, animal-rights-march-london-uk-shutterstock-editorial-10363935h.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13436432 Carnies FEAR this!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:54:04 2019 No.13436457 >>13436435 Sorry we disagree.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:54:32 2019 No.13436462 File: 207 KB, 1284x1045, 1577537204214.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13436268 >harvesting chicken, beef and pork >vegetables, fruits and grains are animals

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:56:31 2019 No.13436469 >>13436457 It's ok. We are all in this journey together!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 16:58:27 2019 No.13436487 >>13436383 So much great virgin banter, you made no distinction and continue to womanly bitch and moan about nothing

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:00:30 2019 No.13436500

>>13436404
>You will begin to notice negative health consequences of your vegan diet within a couple of years of being on it.
Nah
>Please understand that you don't have to be on this ridiculous diet.
It is a false and artificial "morality" that you are imposing on yourself.
Cool story. Its funny that you cant even explain what any of these falsehoods are
>You're in a cult. You don't have to live this way.
Yes, thank you for the factless retarded emotional appeal telling me that I'm actually wrong and to blindly follow you. Totally not cult like

You can take your passion aggression with a tampon next time and away from here.

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:02:45 2019 No.13436508

>>13436418
They also come from trans fats in dairy, saturated fat, carcinogens, and cholesterol from all animal products

>>13436421
Thanks for another baseless emotional appeal and inability to address the main points. 10 years, thanks for the diagnosis, doc.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:05:13 2019 No.13436518 >>13436508 Can I ask you why you think fruit is the ideal human food? Why aren't vegetables? Other plants?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:07:40 2019 No.13436537 >>13436424 So you asked me why im not omnivorous and I said why does it matter and you said that's the point? Good talk

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:07:49 2019 No.13436540

>>13436052
This. I only personally know a handful of strict vegans but, without a single exception, they all have a host of health issues; autoimmune disorders, thin, brittle hair, wrinkly skin, sunken in eyes and dental issues, mood disorders, etc. I would be willing to chalk it up to coincidence if it weren't every single case

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:07:57 2019 No.13436542 >>13436043 >it’s practical in all stages of life >meanwhile parents are going to prison for abusing their young children, simply for forcing them into a vegan diet Sounds legit, guess veganism is based now

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:08:22 2019 No.13436544 >>13436487 >>13436500 >larp as a man Femoid please

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:08:58 2019 No.13436548 >>13436085 There’s probably a select group of bugs that are genuinely superfoods when inspected closely but all of the ones that people want to use are basically garbage I wouldn’t feed to a fucking gecko

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:10:03 2019 No.13436554 >>13436462 You should probably try reading what the graph actually says, that would help immensely.

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:12:02 2019 No.13436564

>>13436106
Bro why the fuck am I supposed to care about the insemination of cows, most animals except for humans just rape each other by default, humans and dolphins are the only exception that only commit rape sometimes.
>caring about chickens laying eggs
They literally do this 24/7 it’s not like people are holding guns up to their heads and driving a chisel into their beaks, in fact the less stressed they are they tend to produce better

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:12:58 2019 No.13436566

>>13436518
I didnt say it was.

>>13436542
Yes, a diet of apple juice and almond milk. It doesn't mean a vegan diet is unhealthy, it means that stupid diet is unhealthy. No different from giving a child only cheese and bone broth

>>13436544
Man you're really triggered, is there a dev who can fix your NPC.virgin.txt script?

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:14:24 2019 No.13436574

>>13436564
So you're fine with subsidizing the rape of humans as well? I guess you wouldn't mind being subjected to non consensual sex then.

>They literally do this 24/7 it’s not like people are holding guns up to their heads and driving a chisel into their beaks, in fact the less stressed they are they tend to produce better
I dont think you actually read what I typed because that was a non sequitur

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:15:52 2019 No.13436582 >>13436371 Animals are animals, not little people in fursuits like you delusional clowns think they are. Wake up to yourself, you virtue signalling fuckwit

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:20:06 2019 No.13436605

>>13436106
The only real bad in that is the hormone manipulation and overuse of antibiotics. All animals live by consuming other life. Eating plants to avoid the discomfort of blood, organs, and preparation that comes with meat is simple cowardice. No matter what you do you survive off of death. The death of millions of organisms fuels your body, you can confront that and make peace with it, or pretend that it's possible to live without harming other life forms.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:21:55 2019 No.13436615 >>13436582 >DURRRRR I KILL ANIMALS IM A REAL TOUGH VIRGIN Cool virtue signaling. Where did I ever say they were people in suits? Why does that matter? You're free to actually argue the point instead of ad hom and strawmanning

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:26:45 2019 No.13436640

>>13436605
Heart disease, cancer, and environmental destructive are just lovely though, eh?
>animals live by consuming other life
Like plants
>The death of millions of organisms fuels your body, you can confront that and make peace with it, or pretend that it's possible to live without harming other life forms.
So why do you choose to deliberately maximize it instead of taking the clearly more sustainable approach? Can I kill you? Thats just life bro.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:31:47 2019 No.13436670 >>13436500 Based and pwned

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 17:34:55 2019 No.13436687 File: 68 KB, 1024x553, 1542552379392.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anger towards vegans is sex envy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:47:37 2019 No.13436959 >>13435992 Because I enjoying paying for animals to be tortured and stabbed so I can eat them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:52:06 2019 No.13436970 >>13436106 And some people have to live on council estates.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 18:52:51 2019 No.13436973 File: 14 KB, 201x209, 1532799433490.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13436687 >posts durianrider a known rapist

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:06:31 2019 No.13437054 >>13436959 Good to know. Would you like the favor returned?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:11:20 2019 No.13437074 >>13437054 You can eat my ass for free anon. Might get your daily b12

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:15:04 2019 No.13437093 >>13437074 /ck/ is truly the best board

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:23:45 2019 No.13437131 >>13436537 Are you really that dense, or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? I'm done with you, kid. You are way above your head in this conversation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:26:13 2019 No.13437142 >>13436487 You either don't understand English, or you are just throwing a fit over getting outsmarted. No wonder you're dumb, your diet is lacking.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:27:33 2019 No.13437154 >>13436487 >being that dumb learn to read, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:44:48 2019 No.13437228 >>13437074 yes if you are a decent woman

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:52:01 2019 No.13437255

>>13437131
Yeah another fantastic intelligible point. How do I regain my virginity so I can be like you?

>>13437142
>>13437154

You just said you were done, and now you're back to further display your retardation? Okay, incel. Again. Point out where you made the distinction or accept your original premise was as dumb as the mother that decided not to abort you and that you're now moving the goalposts

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:57:10 2019 No.13437276 File: 338 KB, 2048x1501, 1576278277431[2].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >brother's gf is ''''vegan''''' >still eats eggs and fish What is this tomfoolery

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 19:58:25 2019 No.13437280 >>13437276 that woulda be ovopescetarian

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 20:51:03 2019 No.13437517 >>13436462 Retard, it compares total deaths in different food categories. Chickens are fed corn, so death from corn harvest is included too. Did you even read the graph?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 20:52:38 2019 No.13437528 >>13436959 Ouch! Cut myself on the EDGE of that post!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 20:53:43 2019 No.13437534 >>13435992 The sheer boredom that the menu affords.

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 20:57:59 2019 No.13437556

>>13435992
Because you're cutting out the major macronutrient responsible for hormone production which you can pretty much only get from the cholesterol and saturated fats from animal products. The average person would need to use an impossible amount of supplementation just to stay healthy long term and not suffer the long term side effects of cutting out fat. The average person does not have the time or money to be that meticulous just to stay in decent health when they could easily get it by just eating like a normal human is supposed to. Furthermore your average vegan seems blind to the reality that without vitamin b12, proper fat intake, and complete animal proteins you will suffer long term negative side effects.

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:11:19 2019 No.13437619

>>13437556
You can get fat and more specifically saturated fat, extremely easily on a vegan diet. This isnt even remotely debatable. You do not need dietary cholesterol for cholesterol synthesis. And there is nothing special about animal products in this regard. This isnt remotely a nutrient of concern unless youre deliberately avoiding it
>average person would need to use an impossible amount of supplementation just to stay healthy long term and not suffer the long term side effects of cutting out fat
Uh yeah, you're not cutting out fat. I don't think you know what veganism is and are probably fixated on Raw Till 4 nutbins

>The average person does not have the time or money to be that meticulous just to stay in decent health when they could easily get it by just eating like a normal human is supposed
People dont have time or money for rice, beans, oats, sprouts, cabbage, and potatoes? Okay...

>Furthermore your average vegan seems blind to the reality that without vitamin b12, proper fat intake, and complete animal proteins you will suffer long term negative side effects.
You can supplement B12 like most livestock do. And theres no drawbacks to normal dosage
>proper fat intake
Lol do you actually know what fucking foods are plants? Like do you think vegans are only eating rabbits and twigs?
>complete animal proteins
There is no such essential nutrient as "complete animal proteins", this is not a thing because literally eating more than two different foods will give you a complete protein intake which is a complete non issue anywhere outside starvation ridden areas

I think youre pretty blind to anything that isn't your thumb in your asshole because this is as elementary and uninformed as it gets

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:18:05 2019 No.13437650 >>13436134 "Who hurt you?" works though. I've seen countless people on here get triggered by it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:26:27 2019 No.13437682 >>13435992 because i like food and dont want to limit my palate

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:37:13 2019 No.13437725 >>13435992 Because my brain needs fat and I'm not chugging linseed oil to get it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:39:20 2019 No.13437736 >>13437280 Nobody gives a fuck what you call it, you fucking gender-fluid trans-male Thomas the tank engine nigger

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:40:56 2019 No.13437740 >>13437619 >you can supplement B12 Ah, the heart of every vegans retardation, instead of having cows and fields, let’s just build a fucking factory and harvest limited natural resources.

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:46:49 2019 No.13437768
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>>13437740
Yeah lets waste a shit ton of land and destroy the environment and our health for one fucking nutrient that we supplement the animals with anyways!!! Totally radical bro!!
>harvest limited natural resources
What? The limited natural resource of bacteria cultures? Do you have any idea what you're talking about you pretentious retard?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 21:49:17 2019 No.13437778 >>13437725 Okay, then literally eat any seeds, nuts, avocado, coconut, or use their non linseed oil derivatives?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 22:01:27 2019 No.13437839 File: 530 KB, 1632x1224, vegandumbass.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13437768 >conveniently misinterprets anon and argues on it >thinks they're the pretentious retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 22:17:06 2019 No.13437902 >>13436574 >all this retardation eat your meat kids!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 23:07:43 2019 No.13438116 >>13436254 Cat? I'm a kitty cat! and i DANCE DANCE DANCE and i DANCE DANCE DANCE

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 23:12:20 2019 No.13438137
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NATURAL VEGAN B12:

markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/parabel-announces-natural-plant-source-of-vitamin-b12-in-water-lentils-and-lentein-plant-protein-1028697181
>Independent third-party laboratory testing has confirmed that Parabel's water lentil crop and the ingredient LENTEIN® plant protein contain the natural bioactive forms of Vitamin B12 adenosylcobalamin, methycobalamin, and hydroxocobalamin. The water lentil, or duckweed as it is commonly called, was shown to contain approximately 750 % of the US recommended daily value of the bioactive forms of Vitamin B12 (per 100 grams of dry plant).

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308814616312778
>Significant amounts of vitamin B12 in plants were detected in Hippophae rhamnoides (37lg/100g dry weight), in Elymus (26lg/100g dry weight) and in Inula helenium (11lg/100 g dry weight).
>...with 6.5g dried Hippophae rhamnoides berries an individual can reach the recommended daily amount of vitamin B12
>the concentration of Hippophae rhamnoides in vitamin B12 approaches nearly 74% of vitamin B12 content of one of the richest natural sources of vitamin B12 such as pig liver
(latin names of sea-buckthorn, wheatgrass and elfdock/horse-heal; study specifically checks for bioavaliable B12 and NOT analogues)

pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/jf073213h
>The concentration of cyanocobalamin in the chlorella samples is similar to that of nutritive supplement 2, implying the suitability of chlorella as an alternative nutritive supplement to vitamin B12 of natural origin.
>The major cobalt species in nutritive supplements and chlorella samples was cyanocobalamin.
(=a form of vitamin B12 used to treat vitamin B12 deficiency)

pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/jf020345w
>The results presented here indicate that Chlorella tablets contain substantial amounts of B12 so that they may be suitable for use as a B12 source, especially in vegetarians [...]
(note: bioavailability not checked for in this study, but they did check for analogues)

>>	Sage Mon Dec 30 23:14:34 2019 No.13438152 >>13435997 /thread

Anonymous Mon Dec 30 23:29:14 2019 No.13438202

>>13437768
>the only thing required to produce B12 is bacteria
And a factory, electricity, human labor, and a shitload of chemicals that require all of the same things to isolate the B12 and the containers for the B12 supplement which are also made of chemicals

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 30 23:30:30 2019 No.13438208 >>13438137 Why aren’t we already eating those plants then?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 00:44:24 2019 No.13438436 >>13437839 I didnt misinterpret anything. You said something stupid and I corrected you. You're just grasping at straws

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 00:45:25 2019 No.13438440 >>13437902 Just about the type of response I'd expect from a retarded nonce like you. Leave the debates to the adults.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 00:49:27 2019 No.13438454

>>13438202
Cool word salad, which one of those is a limited resource that kills countless animals and irreparably destroys the habitat and environment? Again, you're just pretentious and making things up as you go, you don't have the faintest idea of what the process is, the same process btw which 55% of the market share is given to livestock already

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 00:54:51 2019 No.13438471 >>13436268 Kek every time this is posted there's at least one retard who can't read charts and thinks it says that those food items are listed as animals. Why are 4braincells posters so stupid?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 00:59:53 2019 No.13438496 There is nothing that makes me cum harder than reading the delusional meatcuck cope in these threads. I've tried many kinks in my life, but this makes me cum harder than 1000 suns. Dear God I'm so fucking close

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 02:31:12 2019 No.13438818 Because I like eating animal products, specifically my boyfriends semen.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 02:35:03 2019 No.13438828

>>13438454
>word salad
I didn’t even say a single word that the average 4th grader couldn’t understand

If you’re gonna be intellectually dishonest, do it somewhere you’re not anonymous. Anonymity ensures you can share your true opinions and debate on equal grounds. Being a slime ball faggoty nigger is for television screens and fucking slampigs at five bars.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 02:36:36 2019 No.13438832 >>13438828 Dive bars* >>13438496 There’s nothing that makes me coom harder than the fact that liberals are too indoctrinated to have kids of their own, makes me coom so hard in my wife that I think I’ll go do it again right now, faggot

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 02:37:49 2019 No.13438834 >>13435992 I'm okay with killing animals to satisfy myself. Meat eaters who don't have the stomach to kill and butcher their own animals even once are pussies.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 02:38:31 2019 No.13438836 >>13438832 you don't have a wife

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 05:19:59 2019 No.13439152

>>13438832
What does this have to do with being a meatcuck or not? I will also coom in my wife and have another kid, I'll use meatcuck tears as motivation for producing stronger sperm and offspring. My ultimate dream is that one of my decendants helps put the final meatcuck out of their misery.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 05:38:30 2019 No.13439195 Fuck those animals they are fucking tasty so I eat them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 05:43:40 2019 No.13439211 File: 29 KB, 657x527, 48451568974.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >another vegan thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:11:00 2019 No.13439287 >>13437276 that sandwich looks so fucking good

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:15:08 2019 No.13439295 >>13435992 I'm neither communist scum, nor sympathetic to the neo-marxist rationalizing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:18:19 2019 No.13439304 >>13439152 There is so much self delusion in that post that you'd make a natural tranny.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:19:22 2019 No.13439306 >>13439304 Cry more meatcuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:29:15 2019 No.13439323 ITT a bunch of butthurt people whose kids will grow up to be trannies, and there's nothing they can do about it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:30:28 2019 No.13439330 >>13439323 Whimper more meat bitch

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:37:34 2019 No.13439348 >>13439330 I mean them too.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:38:13 2019 No.13439349 >>13439348 Oh. Carry on.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:42:04 2019 No.13439356 >>13435992 I'm not a massive faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 06:47:42 2019 No.13439369 >>13439356 You are a meatcuck though, which is the same thing

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 07:08:40 2019 No.13439411 File: 200 KB, 500x863, 3-january-at-22-58-soi-went-to-the-doctor-the-58434689.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13439369 >

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 07:15:47 2019 No.13439429 File: 530 KB, 2465x1643, veganprotest.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] It's funny because the vegans desperately larping as manly itt are most likely overweight women.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 07:19:25 2019 No.13439434
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Also their use of the word "cuck" when they are leftists makes it even funnier. They actually believe larping as fit men will help shill their cult lol.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 07:25:16 2019 No.13439444 >>13436104 >>13436134 >>13436190 >>13439429 >>13439434 Imagine being this rent free

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 07:28:35 2019 No.13439455 >>13439444 >n-noo, don't call me out on my obvious LARP!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 07:30:14 2019 No.13439460 >>13438832 Anime dolls don't count anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 07:35:02 2019 No.13439475 >>13435992 I tried veganism for a whole month during summer 2018 and 2019, didn't like it tbqh.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 07:40:55 2019 No.13439497 >>13435992 Why should I?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 07:48:21 2019 No.13439520 >not being able to tell the difference between a body function from a lifestyle >>13436307 >b-b-b-b-ut you didn't make the distinction! are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 08:05:22 2019 No.13439564 >>13439411 Yes excellent point anon. Would you mind stating the properties of meat that cause a low sperm count to recover?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 08:17:16 2019 No.13439599 File: 1.84 MB, 1944x2592, Ursus_thibetanus_3_(Wroclaw_zoo).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >another vegan thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 08:20:27 2019 No.13439609 >>13436197 >carnist >low T Nearly all trustworthy study say the exact opposite. Stupid lier

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 08:21:29 2019 No.13439614 >>13436277 You can, yeah, but it's not healthy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 08:22:46 2019 No.13439618 >>13435992 MY topic asking if veganism was evidence of low-self esteem was deleted and I was banned for 3 days. This topic gets to stay...

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 08:23:29 2019 No.13439621 >>13439618 /ck/ is just a vegan propaganda board nowadays tbqh

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 09:17:52 2019 No.13439823 >>13439614 >you can survive and thrive but its not healthy

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 09:18:54 2019 No.13439828 >>13439520 You obviously couldn't tell the distinction since you didn't make one to begin with, you're backtracking since your retarded premise got BTFO

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 09:21:19 2019 No.13439839 >>13438828 I didnt say you did, it was just a bunch of words that didn't have any syntax whatsoever Thanks for the intellectual honesty of ignoring the actual point because you can't refute it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 09:28:16 2019 No.13439864 File: 13 KB, 867x73, notthatguybut.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13439828 He's right. You can't even grasp how much of a retarded you are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 09:34:53 2019 No.13439896 >>13435997 Don't pin veganism on us gays.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 09:45:01 2019 No.13439938 >>13439823 >surviving = healthy u dun goofd

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 10:22:46 2019 No.13440074 >>13439864 How much of a retarded I am? Nice one, dumbass. Not my job to understand your indecipherable sperg speak and make your argument for you, for you to then backtrack on what you meant you waffling retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 10:25:15 2019 No.13440087 >>13439938 Do you know what the word, "thrive", means, dumbass? Or are you just conveniently ignoring that because it'd mean you'd have to argue why veganism is unhealthy which you obviously don't have a clue about

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 10:28:50 2019 No.13440096 >>13435992 Because I'm heterosexual and have an actual education in biological sciences.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 10:32:02 2019 No.13440111

>>13435992
because i like meat too much and it's too difficult for me to give up. the ideals are admirable though of course. i think vegetarian/veganism will become more popular when there's a large variety of plant-based proteins that are indistinguishable from the real thing. i'd try it anyway

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 10:34:35 2019 No.13440126 >>13440074 Whatever you say, kid. You're really smart. Happy now?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 10:39:32 2019 No.13440146 >>13440126 No. I'd rather you not make vague retarded statements to justify an even dumber point, that I'm supposed to piece together for you, only for you to backtrack on it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 10:40:51 2019 No.13440150 >>13440096 Your lack of sex life says otherwise >actual education in biological sciences. So in other words you took a biology class for your geography major requirement. I'm impressed.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 10:50:58 2019 No.13440181

>>13438208
I am. I live in Sweden, sea-buckthorn is greatly valued here.

>>13438471
They're not stupid, they're just not reading it. They take a quick glance and then rush to shitpost.

>>13438496
You should try actually cucking a bacon-guzzling numale! Be the VEGAN BVLL.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 10:54:30 2019 No.13440194

>>13439564
A study showed that vegan diets increase load volume, while the number of swimmers still stays the same. Since fertility tests look at concentration of sperm, it may look in some tests as if vegans are less fertile, but it's the load size: it can be as much as 50% bigger.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:03:28 2019 No.13440238

>>13440096
>actual education in biological sciences
Funny how my biology textbook here recommends eating lower on the trophic chain, i.e. more plant-based, as a way of reducing environmental harm.

>"...our individual consumption of energy, material resources, and food that is produced at higher trophic levels must be reduced. The earth cannot sustain resource and energy use at the level now enjoyed by affluent citizens of developed countries [...] Energy use efficiency can be increased and superfluous consumption reduced without impairing comfort or enjoyment of life. Each individual human can reduce her
or his impact by eating lower on the food chain (reducing meat consumption, for example)..."
>- Robert E. Ricklefs, Economy of Nature, 6th edition, Chapter 26, p.546-547

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:06:31 2019 No.13440252

>>13440150
>>13440238
Reminder that being an undergrad taking a few science classes or reading articles you don't understand doesn't make you knowledgeable in the subject. Only one person here has a doctorate and does primary biomedical research, and it's not you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:10:32 2019 No.13440272 >>13436973 >Posts pic of a man Seethe more femoid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:11:21 2019 No.13440274 >>13440146 Keep blaming others of your lack of reading comprehension, kid. You're doing a great job, everyone is proud of you.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:11:37 2019 No.13440275

>>13440252
How come there are people doing biomedical research or having MDs that are vegan? Clearly other professionals come to different conclusions. If 100% of all people with any biology or medical background said veganism was unhealthy and should be avoided, I'd listed. Mostly they say the opposite, though. Almost like you're using your knowledge to justify what you want to believe anyway.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:15:56 2019 No.13440293 >>13440252 Reminder you just shifted from education to full blown doctorate awarded researcher whilst still making absolutely no point whatsoever

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:17:13 2019 No.13440299 >>13440274 Keep coping that you're too retarded to make a salient point without hilariously waffling while others apparently need to make it for you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:22:14 2019 No.13440320 >>13440299 Don't worry kid, you'll learn enough English someday to sound as smart as you think you do. Keep studying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:24:11 2019 No.13440331 >>13440320 Its okay. One day even mommy will stop tying your shoes for you too. Its part of taking responsibility for your own stupidity.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:25:10 2019 No.13440338

>>13440275
>How come there are people doing biomedical research or having MDs that are vegan?
How come an overwhelming majority aren't? What's the big breakthrough by a vegan scientist? Who was the last vegan Nobel laureate?

>If 100% of all people with any biology or medical background said veganism was unhealthy and should be avoided, I'd listed. Mostly they say the opposite, though.
This is so stupid I have to believe you're trolling.

>>13440293
>actually thinking being an undergrad means you're educated on a subject
Thanks for the laugh. Show me the last high impact paper an undergrad published in the field of biomedical science.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:27:44 2019 No.13440353 >>13440338 I didnt say so, youre obviously majoring in brain damage if you think otherwise. Are you going to make an actual point or just larp about your Devry degree?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:28:05 2019 No.13440356 >>13440331 I don't even know which one is the vegan. >>13440146 But this one's a faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:32:35 2019 No.13440373 >>13440353 >Are you going to make an actual point I pointed out that your woefully unqualified to interpret the validity or meaning of scientific findings.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:32:50 2019 No.13440375 >>13435992 Meat and cheese taste good, the alternatives taste like shit.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:34:51 2019 No.13440383

>>13440356
Okay, incel. Just remember, bunny ears.

>>13440373
Nobody said anything about scientific findings so youre just strawmanning and appealing to your own nonexistent authority. Thanks for the crybaby aside though, really critically thought out.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:36:17 2019 No.13440388

>>13440087
obviously i'm jsut refering to surviving you absoolute moron. U can't thrive on veganism.
Just look at the healthiest and longest living people on earth, the ones in the bluie zone's. They are not vegans, they are OMNIVORES. Nobody can "thrive" on veganism. YOu can survive, yes. There isn't a single culture purely vegan, that is considered to be one of the healthiest and long living.

SO shut the fuck up you absolute lying moron.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:37:12 2019 No.13440395 >>13440383 >Nobody said anything about scientific findings Except for the mentally retarded person who quoted a science textbook. Try again.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:38:52 2019 No.13440407 >>13440087 You vegans don't have a single statistics that backs up your claims that a herbivorious diet is the healthiest or even of one the healthiest. It's simply not. All statistics are against you. I don't understand why you people are lying.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:43:03 2019 No.13440421 >>13435997 Please explain

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:43:12 2019 No.13440422

>>13440388
I dont care, i wasn't and put AND thriving you retard. Which again proves you can't actually argue the point
>people on earth, the ones in the bluie zone's
Even presupposing a certain omnivorous diet could be the healthiest, that has no bearing on veganism being healthy or not
>There isn't a single culture purely vegan,
Theres barely anyone thats vegan, that's not an argument on its health outcomes

You're a complete fucking retard.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:45:40 2019 No.13440427

>>13440395
Thats not a scientific finding, its a quote from an actual biological source that refutes your own retarded appeal to your nonexistent authority you retard

Are you going to make an actual point or just sit and cry about how no one respects your Devry doctorate?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:46:49 2019 No.13440431 >>13440407 I didnt even claim it was the healthiest, I said thrive. Quit strawmanning. Are you going to show statistics on why it's unhealthy or just cower behind "b-burden of proof!!"

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:49:18 2019 No.13440443 >>13440427 >scientific textbooks aren't written based on scientific findings and don't cite studies This is why nothing you say on the topic holds even a modicum of weight.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:54:37 2019 No.13440466

>>13440443
Its literally a quote from a textbook, now you're just speculating and missing the point that such conjecture literally refutes your own you fucking failed abortion. This is why people don't take your Devry doctorate seriously. Because you're fucking stupid.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 11:56:59 2019 No.13440476 >>13440466 >Devry Stop shilling your alma mater. No one's impressed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 12:02:01 2019 No.13440499 >>13435992 https://youtu.be/MxAqytqLMtY ^ because of this

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 12:05:45 2019 No.13440504

>>13440422
>Even presupposing a certain omnivorous diet could be the healthiest, that has no bearing on veganism being healthy or no
>Theres barely anyone thats vegan, that's not an argument on its health outcomes
Fucking kek. Vegans are utterly delusional.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 12:07:45 2019 No.13440514 >>13440476 Okay, Dr. Faggot. Just make sure you sit and cry about your virginity and black people as long as you're staying here poutine

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 12:08:47 2019 No.13440517 >>13440504 Yes. You can read. Shit that literally has nothing to do with health outcomes has nothing to do with health outcomes. Wanna picture?

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 12:26:15 2019 No.13440578

>>13440504
>Pancake bad because waffle taste good
>Everyone eat waffle. Pancake therefore bad!

Literally your kindergarten logic. If there was no omnivorous culture would YOU conclude its unhealthy? You're also suggesting millions of perfectly healthy vegans scattered across the globe wouldnt matter in a health outcome context because they're not in a shared culture. What an astoundingly stupid argument

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 12:33:01 2019 No.13440597 >>13440499 I can also show you many unhealthy meat eaters? Not sure the point of these videos.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 12:36:11 2019 No.13440610 File: 123 KB, 400x243, banshee-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13440578 Why try arguing with a carnist? It's like going on F(au)x News as a moderate and have lunatics screaming at you from 4 sides.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 13:16:56 2019 No.13440776 >>13439896 pedophilia too much for you faggots?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 13:17:05 2019 No.13440777 >>13440597 I bet you can, but, rather, show me examples of fertile, strong, healthy vegans (who don't use steroids nor have a kitchen that looks like a meth-lab).

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 14:26:43 2019 No.13441060 Im unironically vegan and have been for 10+ years. Love it

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 15:45:49 2019 No.13441408 >>13435992 I am not mentally ill

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 15:48:01 2019 No.13441414 >>13441408 Debatable

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 15:49:02 2019 No.13441423 >>13441414 Debate it right now

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 15:53:18 2019 No.13441431 >>13435997 Came here to say this,

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 15:55:10 2019 No.13441436 >>13435992 Don't wanna.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 15:55:36 2019 No.13441438

>>13439839
So you’re telling me that it’s word salad to say literally this:
In order to create B12 supplements you must build a factory, and continue to operate that factory, which costs the sum of all of the natural resources to run that factory and all of the supplementary factories also required to run that factory?

Because that’s literally what I said you fucking two-bit debater

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 15:56:12 2019 No.13441442 >>13441423 You are expending time and energy to not only read posts on 4chan but also write some.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 15:57:08 2019 No.13441449

>>13441423
Recent research has shown that empirical evidence for globalization of corporate innovation is very limited and as a corollary the market for technologies is shrinking. As a world leader, it's important for America to provide systematic research grants for our scientists. I believe strongly there will always be a need for us to have a well-articulated innovation policy with emphasis on human resource development. Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 15:58:08 2019 No.13441451 >>13441449 You’re a fucking retard >technological advance fucking explodes in the 21st century due to the free market >HAHA LETS DO PATRONAGE AGAIN, PATRONAGE WORKED GREAT IN THE MIDDLE AGES

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 15:58:40 2019 No.13441453 >>13441438 That's literally not what you said. But congratulations on again butchering basic linguistics and ignoring the actual point that it doesn't even come close to animal agriculture and isnt a limited resource, dumbass. Good fucking god

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:00:09 2019 No.13441460 >>13441431 More like came on your face lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:00:29 2019 No.13441464 >>13435997 Fpbp

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:02:08 2019 No.13441469

>>13441442
4chan is the only place on the internet where you can read all sorts of different opinions. If I was mentally ill I'd go on reddit where all the mentally ill people are and circlejerk over the same permitted opinions.
For normal people with a sane mind there is no alternative to 4chan. Even mentally ill ''people'' like you vegans are permitted to post here, meanwhile if I wanted to go on plebbit and post there about how vegans are mentally ill I'd get banned for being ''toxic.''

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:02:16 2019 No.13441470 >>13441464 Is that slang that you want to get your butt pozzed?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:03:25 2019 No.13441475 >>13441469 Now you are obsessing over reddit when nobody else even mentioned it. I win.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:03:55 2019 No.13441478

>>13441453
Animal agriculture is only unsustainable because of factory farming which is the direct result of corporatocracy bullshit that a bunch of liberals designed to destroy the free market.

Fossil fuels and electricity production are not “unlimited natural resources” and neither is any of the shit required to grow bacteria (guess what nigger, it doesn’t grow in a vacuum).
Also, unless we are just going to drink the bacteria, then you still have to ISOLATE the vitamins. I know you’ve never taken a chemistry class you 14 year old little cunt, but isolating chemicals isn’t as simply as putting vinegar and baking soda up your ass and shaking it.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:05:13 2019 No.13441482

>>13441475
The funniest thing about these threads is that no matter how hard you vegans cope and no matter how much you tell everyone you’re smarter, you’re still always losing IRL at the end of the day because normal people don’t give a shit about you. It’s just fun to shitpost on this shithole website.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:06:22 2019 No.13441485

>>13441475
It's an example, you cheese brain vegan. You can replace reddit with facebook and whatever other sites you freaks use, the point remains the same. The only reason I use reddit as an example instead of facebook is because I think reddit is relevant now when facebook is dying. I don't know what other sites you freaks use. 9gag? Tumlbr?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:08:48 2019 No.13441489 >>13441485 Based older-than-newfag >tfw nobody calls out tumblr anymore It’s because they’re all here lad, we kept raiding them, and just like all the others they couldn’t stop coming back

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:13:54 2019 No.13441499

>>13435992
Because I have above average testosterone and suffering is inherent to existence.
Also, hunting your own meat is far more humane than being a vegan. Getting the same amount of protein as a single deer provides from farmed soy involves the death hundreds, if not thousands, of mammals. Then you add the deaths of millions of bugs, dozens of fish, and dozens of birds caused by pesticide use.
Vegans are essentially braindead when you think about it logically. Especially when you consider that human brain growth exploded when we started regularly cooking and consuming meat. It was about 90% of the homo genus diet when we developed language.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:14:22 2019 No.13441503
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>>13441478
Yeah no, non factory farming is extremely inefficient, takes up swarths more of land, and still has all the lovely pollution
>direct result of corporatocracy bullshit that a bunch of liberals designed to destroy the free market.
Yeah ok
>Fossil fuels and electricity production are not “unlimited natural resources
Electricity is, and you can make factory work without fossil fuels and it is again a fraction compared to animal agriculture which also contributes to habitats destruction aka the lead cause of species extinction. Aka unsustainable and non renewable
>neither is any of the shit required to grow bacteria
Lol you dont even know what it is, bacteria cultures can be produced en masse in your fucking kitchen, any other chemicals like potassium cyanide are readily and easily available. You're just throwing shit at the wall hoping one your abysmal points stick

>know you’ve never taken a chemistry class you 14 year old little cunt, but isolating chemicals isn’t as simply as putting vinegar and baking soda up your ass and shaking it.
Lol you are ranting about nothing you pretentious shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:15:53 2019 No.13441508 >>13437650 I never even see it get any (you)s. The person that utters it seems to be instantly dismissed out of hand.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:17:55 2019 No.13441516 >>13439434 I mean, everyone knows the left can't meme by now. Even they themselves know this to be true. They just ape right wing memes. Which is fitting, because projection is all they know.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:18:45 2019 No.13441519

>>13441489
I don't really care where these mentally ill people come from, it's just extremely frustrating that there are ''people'' who just don't get anything, who just shit everything up.
A normal person should be able to take a neutral stance on diet and just try to figure out whether or not meat/veggies are good for you, and what your diet should look like. These mentally ill freaks can't do that, they immediately take an ideological stance and their cult is 100% correct, anything that opposes their cult is 100% incorrect. You can't just realize that we are omnivores and we need a diverse diet, and if you care so much about animals you can try to minimize animal suffering while still getting all the nutrients you need. This is too big brained for these ''people.''

The same goes for every other subject.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:18:51 2019 No.13441520

>>13441503
Yes anon, electricity is an unlimited natural resource, so are all the fossil fuels used to produce electricity, the chemicals used to produce photodiodes, the minerals used to build the apparatus for all of these things. Everything is unlimited except for the number of species and the amount of land we have.
Chemicals are also an unlimited resource, you don’t have to derive any of them from anywhere, and there is absolutely no chemical waste or risk of running out of these natural resources, ever.

In fact, I heard windmills just crop out of the ground like crab grass! It did not cost anyone a single thing to build the windmills, the batteries they charge, or the wires connecting all of these things. It was literally free.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:19:09 2019 No.13441521 >>13441485 Pornhub and motherless, mostly. I used to go to eightchan a lot, but that's fucked now. But that's beside the point. You are still mentally ill because you think that shadow boxing is the same thing as engaging with real world viewpoints.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:20:17 2019 No.13441523 >>13441519 I know what you mean anon, look at this guy telling me that producing B12 vitamins is literally free, meanwhile humans have been cultivating animals for 2000+ years for literally no electricity and no chemicals >>13441503

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:22:02 2019 No.13441525

>>13441503
I’m just gonna finish this right now. The only way to get B12 for “free” is drinking dirty water. If you’re so worried about being a vegan and saving the environment, figure out a way to drink dirty water without dying. Otherwise, B12 is always going to be made in a factory just like everything else, and it may seem like it’s not a big deal now, but if every single person on the entire planet was taking these supplements there would be a LOT of factories producing much worse pollution than methane.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:22:06 2019 No.13441527 >>13441521 You said I am mentally ill because I post on 4chan, now I am mentally ill because I ''think shadow boxing is the same thing as engaging in real world viewpoints'' You are mentally ill

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:22:27 2019 No.13441528
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>>13441482
I only see you coping about getting BTFO and ridiculed as a virgin every thread

>>13441499
>I have above average testosterone
Sure you do, sugartits
>suffering is a part of existence
So why maximize it? Do you mind if I enslave, torture, and eat your family? Just existence bro
>Also, hunting your own meat is far more humane than being a vegan. Getting the same amount of protein as a single deer provides from farmed soy involves the death hundreds, if not thousands, of mammals. Then you add the deaths of millions of bugs, dozens of fish, and dozens of birds caused by pesticide use.
Literally just making shit up lol >>13436268

>Vegans are essentially braindead when you think about it logically. Especially when you consider that human brain growth exploded when we started regularly cooking and consuming meat
So I guess your logical brain that has absolutely extraordinary claims with no evidence is going to somehow substantiate how eating meat fueled our glucose driven brains right? Lets even presuppose meat made us smart. What the fuck does that even matter now? You seem dumb enough to be a caveman that eats the bugs crawling over his shit, I can assure many others aren't.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:22:49 2019 No.13441531 >>13436116 bugs' nutrients can be found in meat already. why bother switching unless needed? besides, that won't be switching to vegan as bugs are anuhmals..

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:23:16 2019 No.13441534 >>13441523 It is pretty much free. All you really need is a petri dish and the will to lick it every day. There's no need to refine it, as much as you desperately want to believe there is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:24:55 2019 No.13441542 >>13441523 >>13441525 Why are you quoting "free"? I didnt say the process was free you giant fucking dumbass. You need to consistently argue strawman because you can't actually argue the actual points

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:25:09 2019 No.13441543

>>13441527
I did not say I am not mentally ill. I am fully aware that I am posting on 4chan myself. That is not the point. I am maintaining you are mentally ill. You are mentally ill because you post on 4chan, yes. You are mentally ill because of the reason you post on 4chan, yes.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:26:12 2019 No.13441547 >>13441520 Yeah keep strawmanning my point. It makes you seem very reasonable and totally not butthurt over getting BTFO repeatedly

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:26:43 2019 No.13441550

>>13441534
Yes that sounds perfectly reasonable and in no way dangerous. How about you try licking something every day that contains Agar and whatever other shit required to produce B12 (I’m literally too lazy to look it up, I’m a physicist not a chemist), and tell me how that looks after a week.
There’s literally 4th graders doing this experiment every year and they’re definitely smarter than you because a majority of them weren’t stupid enough to lick the Petri dish after the first time to inoculate it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:27:14 2019 No.13441552 >>13441519 >DRINK THE MILK ITS BALANCED DONT LISTEN TO THEM AND THEIR FACTS JUST DRINK IT Totally not a cult like behavior

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:30:13 2019 No.13441559

>>13441543
My reason for posting on 4chan is that you get banned from every single other site for saying inane shit that offends ''people'' like you. The only alternative to posting on 4chan is to shut up and never talk about anything outside of a small group of select friends
You are mentally ill and you do not really have a reason to post here when you could be posting somewhere else. You are projecting your mental issues to other people who have a good reason to post here.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:30:25 2019 No.13441560

>>13441550
You're a bullshitting sophist retard. You admittedly don't even know the procedure to create any form of cobalamin and just make rampant speculation its some giant factory burning lead or some shit. Still ignoring the fact 55% of the B12 market is for LIVESTOCK

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:32:05 2019 No.13441564

>>13441534
>it is pretty much free
>>13441542
>>electricity isn’t an unlimited natural resource
>electricity is
>>13441547
>strawmanning
>spent the whole first 5 posts of this discussion assaulting my grammar

Unlimited natural resources are free by definition because the supply is infinite and the demand would be relatively the same no matter what, so the price would be constant and extremely low. I.e. free.

You’re still fucking retarded because you refuse to understand the vast number of reasons why producing B12 in a factory is retarded. You’re also retarded for thinking a single person other than mentally ill fags like yourself are going to “lick” a Petri dish, Americans take supplements as pills, we don’t lick salt blocks.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:32:17 2019 No.13441566

>>13441552
Said nothing about milk, don't care if anyone drinks milk. Anyone can look up any studies done on milk to figure out if they want to risk possible calcium deficiencies and possible estrogen doses, both of which have many contradictory and inconclusive studies on.
Kill yourself.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:35:47 2019 No.13441577

>>13441564
That wasn't me about petri dishes which was AFTER you claimed I said it was free and you QUOTED me saying the PROCESS was free you enormous fucking retard.
>>13441525
Quoting free right here
>>13441523
You saying im saying the process is literally free when I never even came close to implying that
Keep shuffling. Ill await your next sub 20 IQ babble

Do you have a brain deficiency?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:37:05 2019 No.13441584 >>13441566 Yes its a mocking paraphrase, dumbass. You're still completely baselessy against actual reason and fact to ditch veganism. That is cult recruitment

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:39:01 2019 No.13441587

>>13441566
>out if they want to risk possible calcium deficiencies and possible estrogen doses, both of which have many contradictory and inconclusive studies on.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA what the fuck are you even talking about you retard? This is what happens when a smooth brained sophist just makes up shit on the spot.

>KKKKKKKILLL YOURSELF
You definitely have too much inconclusive contradicting estrogen LMAOOOO

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:39:39 2019 No.13441591

>>13441584
It's not a paraphrase, brainlet. It's a strawman. I straight up said I am opposed to cult-like behavior and want people to look at the evidence and decide things for themselves with a clear mind, and you immediately respond with a strawman about how someone is saying to just drink the milk, listen and believe, just drink it.

You're fucking sub-human trash.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:44:09 2019 No.13441609

Allergy to peanuts/tree nuts. So a lot of vegan options are out to me just because of that. Mostly protein. I also just don't really care about the other reasons people go, besides nutrition. Like, animal welfare. Sure it sucks that animals are mistreated but it doesn't directly impact me so I don't give a fuck. When it does, I will.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:46:20 2019 No.13441616

>>13441591
It is a paraphrase, and its not a strawman. Now you're just copying daddy to try and look smart. Now for the THIRD time your baseless emotional appeals are cult like. That is the point

Fourth time the charm? We'll find out
>I straight up said I am opposed to cult-like behavior and want people to look at the evidence
You said it so clearly there's no cognitive dissonance ok bub. You didn't say anything about evidence you just bitched that they need to figure it out and ignore vegans

You suck at this

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:47:40 2019 No.13441621 >>13441609 Legumes, pulses, seeds, berries, drupes, tubers, grains, cruciferous, fungi...

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:49:11 2019 No.13441626 >>13441609 It's already directly impacting your health and the environment which will affect all food sources and the cost of living. But as long as its you suffering and thats not directly me, ill try my hardest to ensure it

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 16:58:13 2019 No.13441664

>>13441528
No,I actually looked at studies to crunch the numbers. To get the same protein from soy as you would from an average sized doe involves the death of 500 field voles, let alone any other animals. And that's just from harvest; it doesn't include plowing the land and such.
>Do you mind if I enslave, torture, and eat your family?
You're welcome to try if you want your insides replaced with jacketed lead.
>with no evidence
This is accepted widely as fact:
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2008/04/eating-meat-led-to-smaller-stomachs-bigger-brains/
The resting metabolism of humans consumes twice as many calories as other primates that are (non obligate) frugivores, but good luck trying to be a ruminant, nimrod.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:09:09 2019 No.13441715

>>13441664
>>13441664
Yeah sure you did. Why even protein anyways, fatty? Why not calories? Oh wait that doesn't even matter because you're a lying retard
>And that's just from harvest; it doesn't include plowing the land and such.
Yeah that is harvest. As usual you're making shit up as you go hoping it sticks for daddy
>You're welcome to try if you want your insides replaced with jacketed lead.
Okay, fatty
>this is widely accepted as fact
By sophist retards like you. Cooking is since it increases the nutritional content and digestibility of many foods and lets us eat more glucose rich starches
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-fire-makes-us-human-72989884/

You suck, retard. Literally a sophist carnist NPC

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:10:55 2019 No.13441722 >>13441715 >gets hit with facts >responds with the churlish flinging of insults You sure showed me. And you wonder why no one takes you sociopaths seriously.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:15:18 2019 No.13441738

>>13441722
Oh is the wittle babby twiggered? Does daddy need to give you a bottle?

What facts are you even talking about? These 6 gorillion voles for soy protein you pulled out of your ass or the baseless meat brain theory I just offered a counter to? Or the part where I asked you why this even matters now and you completely avoided the question? Let me know when you're done crying and we can talk like big boys

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:15:57 2019 No.13441739 >>13441738 Put the schizoid word salad away and try again, smooth brain.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:19:17 2019 No.13441748 >>13441739 Oh look. Wittle babby bitch is trying to copy daddy again. Nice to know you're also the retard arguing how efficient pastures were and didn't even know how cobalamin was produced Let daddy know when you're done crying

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:21:52 2019 No.13441760

>>13441715
Way to link an article that doesn't help your case at all. Fruits and vegetables lose most of their beneficial properties when cooked, and never needed to be, nor were they frequently cooked in "cave man" eras. Meat digestion benefits from cooking and provides additional bioavailability.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:22:30 2019 No.13441764 >>13436329 Look at that goblin looking one, weak from lack of protein and such things we get from meat.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:22:54 2019 No.13441766 >>13441748 See: >>13441739 Also, the pasture guy wasn't me. But he's not completely wrong, either.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:23:29 2019 No.13441770 >>13441760 You didnt even read the article or my subsequent explanation. So there's no reason to even address the rest of your sophistry. Good job!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:24:32 2019 No.13441779 >>13441766 See >>13441748 Then when you're done crying. Daddy can talk to you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:24:38 2019 No.13441780 Keep going meatcucks. I'm about to coom

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:26:52 2019 No.13441789

>>13441764
Even the boomer looks pale and weak as fuck. You think these people would forage for mushrooms for protein or something, but I guess they just drink soylent and hit up GMC or CVS for b vitamins and iron and taurine full of contaminants (including the most latter amino of which they don't even seem to be aware of).

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:27:54 2019 No.13441793 >>13441770 Did you even read my post? If I missed something in the article, please spell it out for me, ya dingy sponge.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:30:25 2019 No.13441802 >>13441793 See>>13441770

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:32:57 2019 No.13441818

>>13441802
I've already said this, but
> If I missed something in the article, please spell it out for me
Please show me where the article on man discovering fire and cooking (a relative blink after becoming obligate omivores) negates my point laid out therein:
>>13441760

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:34:47 2019 No.13441826 >>13441818 You should probably read the article first, then refer to my post. Because if you actually bothered doing so, you wouldn't be asking this question. You'd be stammering to debunk the article and my claims rather than strawman a non sequitur

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:35:47 2019 No.13441832 >>13441826 I read the fucking article, you mongoloid. Do you want me to write a synopsis because you didn't? Delineate how I am wrong, or just fuck right off.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:40:31 2019 No.13441855

>>13441832
So I'm going to restate this one more time. If your dumb ass can't comprehend it, it's purely on you. This really isn't hard, buddy
You should probably read the article first, then refer to my post. Because if you ACTUALLY bothered doing so, you WOULD NOT be asking this question. You'd be stammering to DEBUNK the article and my CLAIMS rather than strawman a non sequitur

I have no interest or patience in talking with your moronic ass further if you can't delineate these concepts.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:43:03 2019 No.13441869 >>13441855 There isn't a single valid rebuttal or scientific statement in your entire excessively long post. You suck, dude. For someone that calls other sophists, you sure lack substance.

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:44:22 2019 No.13441874

>>13436257
there are plenty and I mean PLENTY of people who have eaten meat all their lives and have lived to old age. Being vegan won't make you live forever anyway.
>inb4 muh ethics
idgaf about any animals the same way the don't care about me, get the fuck off my food board.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:45:14 2019 No.13441876 >>13441869 Exactly what I expected. Enjoy another year of a peabrain

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:45:35 2019 No.13441880 >>13437650 who hurt you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:46:16 2019 No.13441884 >>13441874 So as long as I dont care, I can kill you? Is that what you're saying?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:47:19 2019 No.13441890 >>13441876 The funny thing is, despite my vices, I'll probably outlive your tryhard, anxiety ridden ass. I'll roast a piglet in your honor.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:47:42 2019 No.13441892 >>13436450 is this really a stock photo?

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:48:43 2019 No.13441896

>>13441884
lol that's not very compassionate or loving of you, besides you don't eat meat; you're just senselessly killing for no reason or just to prove a point (which is ironically pointless in the grand scheme of things). Vegan diets turn people to psychopaths confirmed.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:51:32 2019 No.13441904 >>13441890 If you want to roast a piglet you'll just turn the heat on in your room

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:52:48 2019 No.13441907 >>13441896 No, id kill you for food. Dont worry, i dont care so its okay by your standards, right? You seem to be backtracking.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 17:52:54 2019 No.13441909 >>13441904 Can't do that. The fags and thots come crawling if my ball scent gets propagated too heavily. Nuisance.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 18:01:38 2019 No.13441943 >>13441909 Virgin must smell good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 18:02:50 2019 No.13441950 >>13441616 >>13441738 >>13441748 >>13441616 What's with the "daddy" stuff? Did your dad fuck you and raise livestock or something?

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 18:03:01 2019 No.13441951

>>13441907
lol ok psycho are you that hungry that you'd be willing to eat people? When I say I don't care, I meant in a 'nothing personal' kind of way. Humans are omnivores, we need meat to function properly and not go crazy to the point where we're making death and cannibal threats to our own kind (which is what all vegans do). Would it be okay if I ate you because our diets differ? No it wouldn't.
>backtracking
okay if that's what the new term for calling someone out is.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 18:10:37 2019 No.13441973 >>13441951 You just said your standard for killing an animal was care, then care + sustenance, now care + sustenance + its icky!! What's next?

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 18:17:36 2019 No.13441997

>>13441973
yes I was going in depth with my explanation you retard I have not contradicted myself at any point plus the icky part was answering your argument to eating humans. different creatures provide different contexts. a poison frog is made of meat but you wouldn't eat it because it's poison.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 18:22:11 2019 No.13442017 >>13441997 You have. You going in depth is subsequent damage control since it changes every post. Why do different creatures provide different contexts? Why is it okay for you to kill animals?

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 18:27:38 2019 No.13442042

>>13442017
>NO YOU HAVE
my position has not changed, all I've done is answer your questions and gave counter arguments (which you have not answered, you just keep asking more questions)
>WHY DO DIFFERENT CREATURES PROVIDE DIFFERENT CONTEXTS?
Um because they do? Every animal does this. Predators don't even bother with skunks even though they're made of meat because they recognize that it won't be good for them to go after.
>WHY IS IT OKAY FOR YOU TO KILL ANIMALS?
because I'm an omnivore, I need it for sustenance. I need it for efficient vitamins and nutrition not available in plants.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 18:33:22 2019 No.13442063 >>13441577 Whatever faggot the free market is never gonna let your bullshit idea happen, and if the government decides to force us into it, it’ll be hilarious when the 22nd century hits and everybody dies of mass starvation.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 18:37:18 2019 No.13442078 >>13441470 It is now

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 18:43:17 2019 No.13442104

I like meat, basically.
Some concepts of veganism seem interesting and all, but i'm not gonna privy myself from the food that i like to prepare and eat because of it. Maybe in the future, but i doubt it, i already don't eat a lot of meat in my day to day anyway

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 18:45:10 2019 No.13442108
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>>13435992
I tried to go plant based/vegan for guts of a year

Pros
>Get more fruit and vegetables into your diet
>Better poops
>Cheaper if you don't buy mock meats
>Lower blood pressure
>Feel like you are getting more oxygen to muscles
>If an incel, can blame it on veganism
>Lack of dairy improves issues with sinuses

Cons
>Too much fibre
>Not much variety in rich protein sources e.g. lentils, beans and soy
>Extreme gas and bloating - this is suppose to go away after a few weeks but I had it for months and until I went back to meat
>If you have IBS, you may suffer a lot
>Diet has to be well planned and can run into deficiency issues
>I also suffered some minor hair loss
>Vegan versions of animal products are expensive and taste like ass
>If you wish to supplement protein powder, vegan versions are like drinking dirt with the grit texture as well
>The vocal minority of vegans are insufferable and will try to relate all aspects of life to veganism e.g. condoms are not vegan. They are generally only a vegan 1-3 years and try to call out other vegans as not being vegan
>Constantly have to check every ingredient in food products as manufacturers will hide animal products under different names
>If you complain about having digestive issues, vegans will try to diagnose you as having SIBO and want you to pay £1200 to send shit in a box to some fag in UK
>Some vegans are the Jews of diets. They will lie to goys (omnivores) to go vegan as the ends justify the means

The high fibre and beans on this diet made he suffer for months. I tried digestive enzymes and slowly introducing but nothing worked. If I didn't have these issues I probably would stay plant based

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 18:46:16 2019 No.13442114

>>13442042
You changed it multiple times and I literally questioned your counters
>Um because they d
Oh so now its just arbitrarily decided by you? As long as killing you fits my arbitrary standards its kosher?
>because I'm an omnivore, I need it for sustenance. I need it for efficient vitamins and nutrition not available in plants.
Being an omnivore doesn't preclude veganism which we do perfectly fine on. There is no nutrient other than the bacteria B12 which is supplemented to livestock, that you cannot get from plants, reasonably and efficiently

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 18:47:21 2019 No.13442119 >>13442063 Yes, because i am currently dying of starvation. I should be morbidly obese like you and die of a heart attack or cancer like the population already does

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 18:49:08 2019 No.13442124 >>13442108 Try fermenting or sprouting your beans for gas, especially fermenting. its how many people traditionally ate beans to mitigate gas. But if your gut can't handle it, it simply can't

Anonymous Tue Dec 31 19:19:58 2019 No.13442249
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If anyone wants to know more about why veganism exist please watch Earthlings and Dominion.
Anyone that considers himself a good person should stop eating innocent animals after seeing these two documentals. Specially if you have dogs/cats.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 19:34:17 2019 No.13442301 >>13442249 Anybody who considers himself a good person is deluded. The very concept of "good" is a construct that people take a convenient view of through their own lens.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 19:36:33 2019 No.13442310 >>13442301 cringe

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 31 20:23:20 2019 No.13442491 >>13442119 Well I’m just saying you can eat cows but you can’t eat a factory

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 01:53:30 2020 No.13443693 >>13440181 ta ditt liv veganäckel

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 02:09:26 2020 No.13443747 >>13442301 Wow bro are you a philosophy major or something?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jan 1 02:12:13 2020 No.13443759 >>13441460 I came here to coom on your entire life and mom bro lmao

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