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Having refined sugar every day is significantly worse than excessive caffeine or drinking alcohol every day.

Change my mind

>> No.13393822

Nah you right

>> No.13393824

>>13393792
Idk lol

>> No.13393877

>>13393792
I do all of these things.

>> No.13393920

>>13393792
I don't know about "significantly," especially compared to alcohol, but, yeah you're not wrong.

>> No.13394376

>>13393920
I do all of these and kratom

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>>13393792
That is correct. That why I only use Splenda © in excess. It makes your intestines glow!

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>>13393792
Im with you M8 it will kill you

>> No.13394839

Prove it first.

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>>13393792
stop focusing on super specific bullshit, having a lot of sugar is bad for you if you don't exercise enough, it doesn't matter if it is refined or "natural"

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>>13394824
How does sugar cause diabetes or weight gain?

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>> No.13394876

>>13394852
>How does sugar cause diabetes or weight gain?
it doesn't. fat does.

>> No.13394884

I stopped eating candy and sugar and still feel like shit

>> No.13394886

>>13394876
Retard.

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>> No.13394891

>>13394884
>I stopped eating candy and sugar and still feel like shit
stop eating dairy. it's clogging your lungs with mucus so they don't work efficiently, making you feel lethargic all the time.

>> No.13394901

>>13394851
These are boomer tier. Too much refined sugar is bad, but these little "infographics" are shit. Go back to normiebook with this.

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>> No.13394913

>>13394908
just stop it you troll.
the body needs sugar, without it we die, it's like oxygen.

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>> No.13394921

>>13394915
why do you reply to all of your previous posts in every folllowing post?

>> No.13394922

>>13393792
NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

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>> No.13394938

>>13394928
eh I do not eat fruit, it is fully of sugar and sugar rots the teeth!

When I say sugar, I mean glucose, the sugar that comes from starch. i do not eat much fructose.

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So I can post faster without the cool down

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>> No.13394970

>>13394960
>Alfredo Darrington Bowman (26 November 1933 – 6 August 2016),[2] better known as Dr. Sebi, (/seJbiː/)[6] was a Honduran herbalist and self-proclaimed healer who identified as African.[2] Bowman claimed to cure all disease with herbs and a vegan diet based on various pseudoscientific claims, and denied that HIV caused AIDS. He set up a treatment center in Honduras, then moved his practice to New York City and Los Angeles. Numerous entertainment and acting celebrities were among his clients, including Michael Jackson.
bruh

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>> No.13394994

>>13394970
HIV literally doesn't cause AIDS

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>> No.13394997

>>13393792
Worse how?

t. has totally replaced water with Coca Cola for the past 15 years. I'm not overweight or unhealthy.

>> No.13395000

>>13393792
is it possible that if you have things in moderation they just aren't bad for you at all?

>> No.13395011

>>13393792
That's why I eat only whole plant foods and get all the yum yum boi tums to myself :3

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>>13394874
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>> No.13395025

>>13393792
>Change my mind
make me

>> No.13395027 [DELETED] 

>>13395000

but sugar in moderation is still almost none at all

>> No.13395030

>>13395011
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>>13394970

what are you trying to say.

>> No.13395036

>>13395027
Then you're a weakling and you should not reproduce

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>> No.13395045

>>13395030
based and doesn't need pills

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>> No.13395121

What worse cigarettes or refined sugar?

>> No.13395235

>>13393792
>haha MY addiction is better than yours
whatever you gotta tell yourself, man.

>> No.13395484

I haven't drank coffee or alcohol or taken any sugar in a month and I feel exactly the same as I did when I pretty much abused coffee and sugar. Still not a bad thing since sweetened coffee didn't seem to have any beneficial effect on me other than giving me random hunger pangs and shits.

>> No.13395492

>alcohol and caffeine addiction isn't as bad

I wonder who could be behind this post...

>> No.13395714

>>13394939
>So I can post faster without the cool down
what

>> No.13395752

>>13394913
The only "essential" macros are fat and protein.

>> No.13395772

>>13395752
Ah a ketofag thread

Makes sense

>> No.13395785

>>13394852
It makes your pancreas overwork and break because it has to produce too much insulin.

>> No.13395796

>sugar is more addictive than cocaine image
How many people actually believe this?

>> No.13395947

>>13395772
>[Non-sequitur].

>> No.13396031

It's not sugar

>> No.13396043

>>13395785
>It makes your pancreas overwork and break because it has to produce too much insulin.
not true. a high fat + high carb diet makes the body overproduce insulin to deal with the carbs.

Since the body needs sugar and loves glucose, the easiest solution to this problem is to not eat fat. Keto-tards came up the the brain dead idea that they should not eat glucose, instead, and put themselves in a dangerous ketosis state.

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13396050

Sugar is the main reason why your american blacks are all so fucking disgustingly fat, diabetic, and diseased.

>> No.13396056

>>13396050
uuh no. fat is the main reason we're all disgustingly fat.
We Americans eat cheese, fried foods, fatty meats, cakes, cookies, and ice cream regularly. All these foods are absolutely loaded with fat.

>> No.13396092

>>13394939
This is patently untrue, grapefruits interact with statins and steroidal medications. There's nothing magic about sour sugary pulp

>> No.13396295

>>13396043
>a high fat + high carb diet makes the body overproduce insulin to deal with the carbs.
Source?
>>13396056
>fat is the main reason we're all disgustingly fat.
Source?

>> No.13396338

>>13396050
True, same reason whites and hispanics are too. US asians are the only ones with reasonable obesity levels.

>> No.13396362

>>13396338
Except that what makes you fat is eating at a caloric surplus and sugar isn't the cause of diabetes.

>> No.13396577

>>13396295
>source
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=fRZduVxlP_U&feature=emb_logo

>> No.13396586

>>13393792
You are right.

Though, some alcohols contain way more sugar than others so depending on what you are drinking, you are still drinking a ton of sugar.

>> No.13397189

Fuck off with your Facebook images. I know sugar is bad for you but at least post some nice peer reviewed medical studies on the matter to convince people.

>> No.13397292

>>13396577
I meant a link to a peer-reviewed scientific study.

>> No.13397455

>>13397292
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12784183

>> No.13397463

>>13397292
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15929861

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>> No.13399244

there is nothing wrong with refined sugar

it's a scapegoat for the real toxins in the food supply

>> No.13400452

>>13399224
refined oils are much more deadly than refined sugar. refined oils coat food in the stomach and slow down digestion and satiety signals, which causes humans to over eat and get diabetes.

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>>13393792
>"Hey, sugar is A-okay," - American Heart Association

>> No.13400677

>>13400664
table sugar is sucrose which is 50/50 glucose/fructose.
fructose is the unhealthy sugar.
glucose is the healthy sugar.
you can eat as much glucose as you can bear, as long as you don't eat it with fat.
starch is mostly glucose.

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>>13400677
>fructose is the unhealthy sugar.
>glucose is the healthy sugar.

>> No.13400704

>>13399244
What are the real toxins?

>> No.13400952

>>13397455
>>13397463
Where does it say that anything about fat being the main reason people are obese? I can only see the abstract in each link btw.

>> No.13401081

>>13400664
>American Heart Association recommends daily refined sugar.
Nice.

>> No.13401120

>>13393792
Excessive alcohol will kill you faster.

>> No.13401951

Sugar is sugar you retards
Eat more fibre(the reason fructose in fruits is fine, added fibre) and you'll be good

>> No.13401961

>>13396050
All food consumption except fats have decreased in the past twenty years

>> No.13401978

>>13401081
>>13400664

They don't. They recommend you don't surpass the guidelines they set out. Really isn't that difficult

>> No.13401988

>>13401951
>Sugar is sugar
Woah deep big brian thinking

>> No.13402008

>>13400677
you know that fructose and glucose are only different because fructose is the ketose sugar equivalent of glucose, and that glucose is the aldose equivalent of fructose? both are actually readily metabolized in the body, especially true in the strand form of sugar, and true for the ring form of those sugars as the body contains both hexokinase needed for breaking the glucose and the fructokinase needed for breaking fructose. although fructrokinase is only found in the liver, it does not mean that it is metabolized any differently in terms of rate or in terms of impact. unless you inject both into your bloodstream. glucose would probably be bad faster, as it would mean direct blood sugar increase (as glucose is the component being monitored here) fructose on the other hand need to be tautomerized into glucose or be metabolized and then catabolized into glucose before becoming harmful.
in short, stop saying bullshit if you dont know everything about things.

>> No.13402056

>>13401988
>tfw brianlet

>> No.13402063

>>13402008
>glucose would probably be bad faster, as it would mean direct blood sugar increase
that isn't a bad thing. are you diabetic? if not, then blood sugar going up is not a problem. the body takes care of it fine.
fructose is 'bad' because it doesn't raise blood sugar quickly like glucose, so it helps contribute to the over-consumption of calories.

>> No.13402095

>>13402063
but you see, i did say if you injected it directly into your bloodstream. generally all sugars are processed and broken by your liver before entering the bloodstream so this condition never occurs (unless you try it).

the kinder point to this is, eventually your body breaks down fructose and also glucose the same. there is no saying which one is more beneficial as both would yield the same products eventually. it is with the amount of consumption that determines the detrimental effects of a sugar rather than the form of the sugar (that is in the case of fructose and glucose specifically) although if you argue other sugars such as lactose or polysaccharide chains such as celluose, those are sugars which are not readily metabolized.

if your concern is fat accumulation from sugar fructose and glucose is also no different, also due to the aforementioned reasons.

>> No.13402099

>>13402063
The postprandial drop in blood sugar is key to satiation

>> No.13402122

>>13400677
>>13402063
another thing, starch is really just glucose, it is not mostly glucose, it IS glucose, but in a chain. also as an added fact, if starch is metabolized by the liver, it even yields more ATP than if all of those linked glucose are metabolized individually (which can mean worse implications but not necessarily in reality).

>> No.13402252

>>13402099
>>13402122
>>13402095
What do you think of this gem:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191001132712.htm

"High-fructose and high-fat diet damages liver mitochondria

High levels of fructose in the diet inhibit the liver's ability to properly metabolize fat. This effect is specific to fructose. Indeed, equally high levels of glucose in the diet actually improve the fat-burning function of the liver.

Researchers at Joslin Diabetes Center have found that high levels of fructose in the diet inhibit the liver's ability to properly metabolize fat. This effect is specific to fructose. Indeed, equally high levels of glucose in the diet actually improve the fat-burning function of the liver. This explains why high dietary fructose has more negative health impacts than glucose does, even though they have the same caloric content."

>> No.13402322

>>13400692
A retarded explanation, but not entirely incorrect

>> No.13402503

>>13400677
dishonest glucose carb devil shill kys

>> No.13402515

>>13393792
>worse than excessive caffeine
obviously

>or drinking alcohol every day.
nope, that is still worse

>> No.13402524

>>13394850
you're telling me that eating a banana is the same as just pouring out 15g of white sugar and eating it?

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>>13394824
Thanks for the Facebook memes
I shall now proceed to repost them to my Facebook mom page

>> No.13403974

>>13395796
There are studies. Going off memory but it was something like: lab rats given the choice between a sugar solution and a cocaine solution chose the sugar 8 times more often. They would even prefer the sugar solution if it meant having to travel over a a shock panel and if they were previously addicted to cocaine would quickly switch over to sugar given the option. I read the labs published results first hand a while ago.

>> No.13404528

both my parents have diabetes but i cant stop eating sugar help

>> No.13404548

>>13403974
Sounds like a Jewish tale to get you to buy cocaine. You can't full me.

>> No.13404552

>>13396056
fat will fill you up a lot faster than sugar. sugar is the main culprit

>> No.13404601

>>13404528
Cut it out cold turkey and completely. I am talking right down to reading the label on literally everything and passing anything with "sugar" or any of its pseudonyms in the ingredients.

You don't have to cut it out completely forever but this will tell you just how addicted you are to sugar, and better inform you as to just how many products use sugar and how much of it. That can help you make more informed decisions going forward

I cut out all refined sugar every lent and I lose scads of weight and generally just feel a ton more energetic by the end of it. But it's too difficult to be that hard-earned about it year round. That shit is I n everything.

>> No.13405232

>>13404552
>fat will fill you up a lot faster than sugar
you are just wrong man. that's impossible anyway.
fat has 9 cal per gram, sugar 4 cal per gram.

>> No.13405236

>>13404601
is keto like anorexia? I'm starting to think it is an eating disorder after reading posts like this.

>> No.13405717

>>13405236
Who is talking about keto here? I'm saying cut out REFINED or ADDED sugar.

>> No.13405723

>>13405236
rent free

>> No.13405730

>>13405717
>Who is talking about keto here? I'm saying cut out REFINED or ADDED sugar.
All food eaten is REFINED by the body into fats, proteins and sugars, nitwit. It doesn't matter if it is refined beforehand or not.

>> No.13405748

>>13393792
>anti sugar tards
Stop being fat : )

>> No.13405764

>>13405730
>All food eaten is REFINED by the body into fats, proteins and sugars
Imagine trying this hard to save face lmao

>> No.13405827

>>13405748
Sugar has been associated with harmful effects even adjusting for body weight.

>> No.13405867

>>13405748
Ever heard of diabetes? It has to do with sugar intake not calorie intake.

>> No.13405983

>>13405867
Source?

>> No.13405996

>>13395023
Can I be totally honest? I saw this, thought it was bs, and double checked it. Now I'm unironically kinda grossed out by coke

>> No.13405997

>>13404528

Advice I got from my gf's mom eho was heavily diabetic: cut out complex carbs like whole wheats. For the normal person they're healthier but they'll fuck up a diabetic worse than sugar or simple carbs.

>> No.13406003

>>13405983

Hope your shitposting and not retarded, diabetes is literally a lack of insulin to process carbohydrates properly

>> No.13406031

>>13406003
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.diabetes.org.uk/guide-to-diabetes/enjoy-food/eating-with-diabetes/diabetes-food-myths/myth-sugar-causes-diabetes%3famp
>With Type 2 diabetes, though we know sugar doesn’t directly cause Type 2 diabetes, you are more likely to get it if you are overweight. You gain weight when you take in more calories than your body needs, and sugary foods and drinks contain a lot of calories.

>So you can see if too much sugar is making you put on weight, then you are increasing your risk of getting Type 2 diabetes. But Type 2 diabetes is complex, and sugar is unlikely to be the only reason the condition develops.

>We also know that sugar sweetened drinks, like canned soft drinks, are associated with an increased risk of Type 2 diabetes and this is not necessarily linked to their effect on body weight.

Again, post a source, fat retard.

>> No.13406069

>>13406003
>>13405867
>Ever heard of diabetes? It has to do with sugar intake not calorie intake.
insulin resistance develops if one has a high fat + high carb diet. if you just eat a ton of glucose, like starch, you will not develop insulin resistance. You can also eat no carbs, and go into ketosis, but that is not healthy at all, and you will develop heart disease.
My meals are entirely starch and I do not have diabetes. The body loves glucose, and deals with it very efficiently, as long as there isn't much fat in the meal, and you're not obese - fat in muscles also causes insulin resistance.

>> No.13406115

>>13406069
>You can also eat no carbs, and go into ketosis, but that is not healthy at all, and you will develop heart disease.

>ketosis is not healthy at all

oh you

>> No.13406202

>>13406115
Proof that ketosis is healthy?

>> No.13406267

>>13406115

Ketosis is quite literally not healthy. Healthier than being a 250lb lardo fat fuck, but worse than eating a healthy diet.