Vegan influencer eats meat for 30 days she's healthier than she's 'felt in years'

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Vegan influencer eats meat for 30 days she's healthier than she's 'felt in years' Anonymous Sun Dec 8 22:54:23 2019 No.13339945 [Reply] [Original]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5FxTpkiVMI

Well, that’s a big change.

A formerly vegan influencer revealed to her fans that she spent 30 days eating nothing but meat and animal products. She also revealed that the new diet had some surprisingly positive effects on her health.

Alyse Parker, who has over 200K Instagram followers and over 700K Youtube subscribers, explained her decision on Instagram. In a post, she revealed that she decided to try the Carnivore Diet after hearing about all of the health benefits from friends who switched from being vegan to eating only meat and animal products.

Parker explained, “I had my own fair share of health struggles and eventually reached a breaking point where I was willing to try anything to function properly again.”

People on the Carnivore Diet only allow themselves to eat meat and animal products, like eggs and dairy.

“I swallowed my pride and decided I’d give it a shot,” she continued. “Full-on carnivore. I woke up the next morning feeling more mentally clear, focused, wholesome, and healthy than I had felt in years.”

On Youtube, where she elaborated on her experience, many of her fans reacted negatively, with one simply commenting, “This is so disappointing.”

Another commenter wrote, “If you had to kill every animal you ate in this video... We all know you would go back to vegan immediately. I've also been vegan for 4.5 years now, no meat for 6. I've never been this healthy in my life, and I have the blood work to prove it.”

Another user added, “You should see a doctor after and show us those results rather than you on a scale and your abs. This probably isn’t helping your eating disorder.”

https://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/vegan-influencer-carnivore-healthier?ICID=ref_fark

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 22:58:35 2019 No.13339961 Looks like this whooer will be looking for new work

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 22:59:13 2019 No.13339965

I mean that last commenter is correct as she probably does have a eating disorder, besides going full carnivore or full vegan have both been shown to have their fair share of problems over long periods of time. The best diets are Mediterranean and whole foods which have the same heart health benefits of veganism while also allowing the eating of meat which provides more essential amino acids and good fats.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 23:00:15 2019 No.13339970 Nutcase with eating disorder jumps from one extreme diet to another, more at 11

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 23:03:27 2019 No.13339981 Meanwhile she has yet to have a bm

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 23:07:06 2019 No.13339989 >attention whore youtuber follows extreme diet after retarded variation of veganism, uses it for attention because it's a popular attention whoring technique on youtube currently Wow nice anecdote OP

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 23:07:31 2019 No.13339990 File: 285 KB, 902x902, 1530040926049.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13339945 Literally just be a Christian lol. It's not that hard

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 23:09:27 2019 No.13340001 >>13339970 This. Fucking women.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 23:10:28 2019 No.13340005 >>13339945 10/10 would bang that flip flopping roastie

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 23:15:59 2019 No.13340034

She took a financial hit after getting called out as a fraud after her "why i'm not vegan anymore" video, so she planned and pulled this stunt for the sake of publicity and unfortunately it's working. Even my mom sent me the same story from a different news source. Facebook mom OP spamming /ck/, the absolute state of antivegans.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 23:20:15 2019 No.13340056 >>13340034 Your mom just loves you and does not want you to be a little faggot

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 23:26:41 2019 No.13340093 >>13340034 Yep, your mom just loves you and does not want you to be a little faggot

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 23:32:05 2019 No.13340121
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>>13340034
Hey anon, mom here, just stopping in to check on you and see the place where you seem to spend so much time.
No judgement either way, just want you to be happy and not a little faggot....

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 23:47:41 2019 No.13340169 File: 244 KB, 904x573, hola.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'd fuck the shit outta her. Olivia Budgen needs to do the same as this gal.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 23:55:42 2019 No.13340195 i refuse to believe people like this exist how do you win all of it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 23:56:29 2019 No.13340197 >>13340001 >all vegans are women based retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 00:14:19 2019 No.13340243 >>13339945 this fucking backstabbing WHORE deserves a slow death like the animals she ruthlessly consumes

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 00:14:43 2019 No.13340246 >>13340197 Most are, yes.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 00:21:00 2019 No.13340257

It's a bit silly to go full swing one way or the other. Whatever happened to a healthy balanced diet? Can you only be either a vegan or a carnivore now? Have people gone that fucking retarded and entrenched in their opinions they can only see in black and white?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 00:41:35 2019 No.13340308 >>13339945 the carnivore diet is no more healthy than the atkins or paleo. because your cutting out the wrong things. not just certain vegetables but other fruits too

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 00:52:37 2019 No.13340348

>>13339945
>On Youtube, where she elaborated on her experience, many of her fans reacted negatively, with one simply commenting, “This is so disappointing.”
>Another commenter wrote, “If you had to kill every animal you ate in this video... We all know you would go back to vegan immediately. I've also been vegan for 4.5 years now, no meat for 6. I've never been this healthy in my life, and I have the blood work to prove it.”
>Another user added, “You should see a doctor after and show us those results rather than you on a scale and your abs. This probably isn’t helping your eating disorder.”
Vegans are kinda mean yeh?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 02:09:23 2019 No.13340590 >>13339945 Good for her. Still baffled at how sectarian and 'crab in the bucket' like the vegan community is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 02:15:24 2019 No.13340608 File: 105 KB, 1080x376, Screenshot_20191209-151457_YouTube.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] .

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 02:18:32 2019 No.13340612 >>13340169 Yooooo scoped this Olivia, good call anon

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 03:04:27 2019 No.13340724 >>13340348 Herbivores in general tend to be dicks

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 03:10:45 2019 No.13340739

It's a good thing I don't care for e celebs and can think for myself. To think there aren't people out there taking advantage of the hype that surrounds veganism is foolish, especially the hype surrounding it 4~ years ago. People will do whatever it takes to become popular, and following a popular diet is a way some people do it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 03:27:25 2019 No.13340774

>>13339945
>dietary extremist tries other extreme diet and tell everyone they're healthier than ever
>it's also a woman
Incredible. I wish there was a diet featuring neither meat nor vegetables so I could distance myself as far as possible from this retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 03:32:49 2019 No.13340785 File: 19 KB, 345x194, 1488490570832.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13339945 >Vegan >Had prior diet including meat and other animal products

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 03:37:06 2019 No.13340792 >>13340785 >expecting 12 year old /pol/dditors to understand how the world actually works outside of their propaganda bubble

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 03:37:47 2019 No.13340794 dumb. it's not like you have a day of vegetables only and suddenly feel better or worse, and it's not like you would feel instantly better or worse by introducing meat. placebo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 04:11:06 2019 No.13340871 >>13340794 she did it for a month retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 04:12:45 2019 No.13340873 File: 29 KB, 657x527, 48451568974.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >another vegan thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 04:18:13 2019 No.13340883 >>13339945 i'd fuck her asshole so hard

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 04:20:06 2019 No.13340887 >>13340197 Vegan (((men))) all have the T levels of 4yo boys. They're failed men at best

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 04:27:52 2019 No.13340911
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>>13340887
Vegan men have higher testosterone
https://medium.com/@ARespectfulLife/vegan-men-have-13-higher-testosterone-levels-d9b940b8db0
>It is true that vegan men have 13% HIGHER testosterone levels than meat eaters and 8% higher than vegetarian men.

Also as seen by Shawn Baker, the carnivore-diet advocate, carnivore dieters actually have hifher estrogen than young girls going through puberty (highest circulating estrogen throughout any point in womens' lives) and the testosterone of a 9 year old. Pic related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 04:33:28 2019 No.13340927 >>13340911 Well damn I had no idea. Thanks for BTFO my ignorant claim so politely

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 04:35:04 2019 No.13340932 >>13339970 this, the whole thread is literal spam

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 04:41:18 2019 No.13340948 >>13340932 Mods are busy jerking off to Fast Food Threads™ to notice

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 04:50:26 2019 No.13340965
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>>13340911
>>13340927
Wrong.
>https://medium.com/@ARespectfulLife/vegan-men-have-13-higher-testosterone-levels-d9b940b8db0
>It is possible that the study above is somewhat inconclusive due to the mean age of the men in the study, although they indicate that all levels were adjusted for age. The vegan group was 10 years younger. They also had a lower alcohol consumption.
>The vegan group was 10 years younger. They also had a lower alcohol consumption.
>The vegan group was 10 years younger. They also had a lower alcohol consumption.
Literal fake news
>Shawn Baker
Uses steroids and was off cycle when getting his hormones checked so ofc they were crashing.
Literal fake news: The return

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 04:51:28 2019 No.13340968 >>13339945 >"influencer" Stopped reading there.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 04:53:31 2019 No.13340974 >>13340911 Fake study by vegan adovcates

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 05:40:15 2019 No.13341057
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>>13340965
>dude trust me, not a large meta-analysis
>>13340974
>dude trust me
Check out this vegan hotty though. Why are vegan girls always so beautiful?
Whenever I go to a vegetarian restaurant there's always zero fatties, yet I go anywhere else and 90% of women are gigantic or genetically retarded.
Rly mks u thk

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:00:44 2019 No.13341084

>>13340257

Under rated post. The path of true enlightenment is to reject the mass produced shit that you see in the supermarket and grow your own veggies and kill/butcher your own meat.

Or at the very least buying local produce.

It would be very interesting to see exactly what the billionaires of the world are eating. Someone like Tom Cruise is on some Voodoo type shit to look as young as he does (obviously plastic surgery comes into it, but diet would be a big part of it too)

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:04:18 2019 No.13341090
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https://www.cnet.com/news/zuckerberg-takes-to-killing-chickens-and-pigs/

>In what is reportedly his personal challenge of the year, the Facebook CEO has taken to eating meat only from animals he personally kills.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:08:55 2019 No.13341096

>>13339945
>Another commenter wrote, “If you had to kill every animal you ate in this video... We all know you would go back to vegan immediately. I've also been vegan for 4.5 years now, no meat for 6. I've never been this healthy in my life, and I have the blood work to prove it.”

So-called. These "healthy and robust" vegans ~fucking never~ have videos or profile pictures of themselves. And as far as killing animals, vegans should kill their own rabbits snakes mice and deer which die horrible deaths for their bread, broccoli and kale smoothies....

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovGHKr-NoqQ

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:10:22 2019 No.13341098 >>13339945 I AM SHOCKED AND APPALLED! No wait, I'm not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:10:45 2019 No.13341101 >>13341090 >Zuckerberg tendies not sure how to feel about this

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:12:57 2019 No.13341102 File: 129 KB, 874x574, 1567023109972.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13340197 78% of sickly vegans are women. (Most of them rabid radfems)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:13:59 2019 No.13341104 >>13340243 What do you deserve for the animals you kill for your supper? https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:14:11 2019 No.13341105 I call bullshit Not because I give a shit about vegan or all near diets but there is no way your body can handle that much meat after a long period of being vegan

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:14:57 2019 No.13341106

>>13341084
>It would be very interesting to see exactly what the billionaires of the world are eating. Someone like Tom Cruise is on some Voodoo type shit to look as young as he does (obviously plastic surgery comes into it, but diet would be a big part of it too)
It's not unheard of that they are on hormone replacement, hGH, supplements that can include plasma, tons of spirulina and other shakes, good handful of capsules of supplements of every type. Dermatologist on speed dial poking needles through the skin to stimulate collagen regen in the layer below. Guzzling water....cycling through crash diets that drop inflammation for press circuits.
...but don't forget genes. Celebrities get away with what you see by having really good looking parents and grandparents. It's longevity and care in their family background. Veganism is a move that creates good publicity in a world that it matters. It's also lower in cals when you only eat caloric restricted all the time, you might jones for a bowl of sprouts, greens and dressing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:16:19 2019 No.13341109 >>13340243 Well, I gotta say you managed to nail the cult mindset of veganism pretty well with your post at least.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:20:51 2019 No.13341117
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>>13341057
Veganism (whole food Veganism) does keep you thin because it's a fasting mimicking diet.

The hot young vegan chicks are like having some thots in their first six months at aushwitz--. They're going to be slim, but after a few years ... five six seven years plus it's not going to work out...

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:26:07 2019 No.13341128
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>>13341057
>beautiful
Lack of collagen in her face makes her look older than she probably is.
Most vegan girls look malnourished and bony, often to the point of losing their period.
Women simply aren't meant to cut off animal products, they need the fat way more than men do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIskI6jf_mk

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:26:51 2019 No.13341129
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>>13341117
Weird how they, vegans, live 8.3 years longer on average though.
What's especially weird is how toothless the carnivore spams threads using anecdotes and about 3 or 4 examples from youtube, namely from a balding pedophile's channel, while claiming them to be evidence of veganism causing bodily harm. It's almost as if he's retarded and hadn't the single-most clue on the subject.
But then again he's a low testosterone, low iq, flat earth believing carnivore-dieter as seen above.
A shame that such exist. I can't imagine being the bliss of being retarded though. The less you know I guess.
Pic related
>the toothless carnivore

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:30:54 2019 No.13341135 >>13341057 Looks like my sister who used to be vegan. Bony, pale skin, frail. She has since ditched the shtick and looks much better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:38:40 2019 No.13341147 >>13340034 Can confirm, your mom doesnt want you to be a little bitch.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 06:43:07 2019 No.13341155 >>13341117 This image is from Auschwitz. 6 billion healthy "people" were rounded up and forced into veganism Never forget

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 07:15:12 2019 No.13341200
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>>13341129
>Weird how they, vegans, live 8.3 years longer on average though.

Except they don't, and you just made that up (or you believed some fake ass vegan propaganda)

Even a vegan "longevity expert" maxed out at 75.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 07:17:40 2019 No.13341207 File: 286 KB, 663x951, 1562973664497.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13341129 >Empty ad-hom >Empty ad-hom Just summed up "vegan science." >VEGANS LIVE 8.7 YEARS LONGER REEEEEE (IRL another vegan infant drops dead)

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 07:20:49 2019 No.13341211

I dont understand dieting. Eating healthy means eating balanced, as in, every food group. Why eat only vegan or only meats? None of it makes sense. Eating all food groups is what makes the most sense, there is no reason, unless its specifically doctorially determined for you to not eat something, to not eat everything.

I just dont get it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 08:03:23 2019 No.13341284 >>13341057 >>dude trust me, not a large meta-analysis ?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 08:08:47 2019 No.13341289 File: 261 KB, 1615x1600, 1500211615014.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is the point of pretending to be vegan on /ck/. Seriously you guys need to find a hobby.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 08:08:50 2019 No.13341290 >>13341102 and 21 percent are little faggots

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 08:14:54 2019 No.13341304 >>13340197 Mmmmm blants

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 08:49:02 2019 No.13341385 >>13340608 >i thought vegans care about the animals lol child, so naive

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 08:50:47 2019 No.13341390 File: 170 KB, 602x339, 1547331711457.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13341057 That's not sexy, this is whatmsexy vegan women look like

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 08:52:07 2019 No.13341394 >>13341390 People can hear her bones grinding against eachother from several yards away Like a vegan mating call.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 08:55:11 2019 No.13341407

>>13341211
>every food group
What food groups are you referring to? The marketing based food groups with lobbying groups behind then (dairy, grains, meat, fruit, vegetables)? Or the food groups your body actually cares about (carbohydrates, amino acids, fatty acids, fiber)?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 08:56:35 2019 No.13341413 >>13341394 Imagine fucking her and feeling your dick rubbing against her spine from the inside. So goddamed erotic. Damn vegans so fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 08:57:19 2019 No.13341415 >>13340034 Why do you believe P3TA over your own mom that loves you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 08:58:44 2019 No.13341419 >>13341090 >I hear that human's enjoy chicken so here is me enjoying chicken. >No Mark, no! We cook the chicken before you pretend to eat it!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 08:59:29 2019 No.13341424 >>13339945 Hue, vegans btfo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 08:59:48 2019 No.13341425 >>13341390 fuck off phoneposter the adults are talking. also that thing is clearly a photoshopped auschwitz survivor. you can tell from the pixels and jew nose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 09:05:24 2019 No.13341441 >>13340034 KWAB

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 10:17:10 2019 No.13341598
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>Experts, dietary and medical organisations, scientific consensus: "A well-planned vegan diet can absolutely be healthy at all stages of life, and may even have many advantages for health and the environment!"
>Meatheads: *yawn!* "Fake news!"
>Some instatoth roastie: "Like, I just ate meat for a while and I totally just like FELT better, like I had more energy and stuff, like I didn't go to a doctor and get blood work done to confirm health improvement or anything, I just felt it!"
>Meatheads: "HOLY SHIT! Share this with everyone, 1 billion views on youtube, vegans BTFO'd by SCIENCE and LOGIC! *shoves bacon down throat*
It's all so tiresome.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 10:23:01 2019 No.13341612
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>>13339945
isn't that pretty typical though? most vegans are women, who change their fashion every menstrual cycle. veganism is just another fashion choice to try and get other women to look at them, this thot simply put on a carnivore diet to get men to look at her. she probably flipped a coin to decide what to change this month, the coin could have come up tails and she'd be crowing about buddhism or some shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 10:23:06 2019 No.13341613 File: 1.70 MB, 3840x2160, D6CFF01D-C9C7-485A-B6E8-21133EDDA601.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13339945 I’d let her eat my meat if you grasp the subtext

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 10:24:32 2019 No.13341618 >>13339945 >go from one extreme to another extreme Jesus Christ.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 10:25:13 2019 No.13341619 >>13341289 its a diversion from logposting on /b/

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 10:26:24 2019 No.13341627

>>13340965
Do you not understand what "adjusted for age" means? Studies controll for drinking, smoking, age, etc. all the time. See also: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2374537/pdf/83-6691152a.pdf

(though note that this study found that higher T in vegans was offset by higher sex hormone binding globulin)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 10:31:37 2019 No.13341637 >>13341618 >woman why are you surprised? her next period she'll cut her hair.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 10:36:05 2019 No.13341647 >>13340965 >he's so desperate to actually think lifestyle factors arent accounted and controlled for Kek >muh roids So Shawn Baker needs steroids to function despite his glowingly healthy diet? Damn

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 10:38:06 2019 No.13341650 File: 25 KB, 516x485, 1574626832569.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13339945 >BUTCHERBOX GUYS ORGANIC!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 10:42:00 2019 No.13341657 >>13341612 kek it's funny because it's true

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 11:13:24 2019 No.13341759

>>13341627
I do you cleraly do not. Also that study is garbage as are most of the ones being posted. It just classifys people as "meat eaters". That doesnt mean theyre eating a healthy diet they could be eating mcdonalds daily.
>>13341647
>Kek
They arent.
>So Shawn Baker needs steroids to function despite his glowingly healthy diet? Damn
This statement does not even make sense. No one "needs" them he takes them because he chooses to.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 11:21:07 2019 No.13341791 File: 216 KB, 353x431, 1572641812674.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13341759 >its not meat's fault that he chooses to compensate for his low t caused by his carnist diet

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 11:24:29 2019 No.13341802 i eat meat and I feel no energy

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 11:27:47 2019 No.13341820 >>13339945 >vegan makes up an excuse to eat meat >"i-it's for science" Just eat your fucking burger. You don't have to make excuses. Normal people got your back.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 11:33:47 2019 No.13341841
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>>13341759
>They arent
Kekking even harder
>This statement does not even make sense. No one "needs" them he takes them because he chooses to.
He chose too because he'd be the cryptkeeper without them, retard

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 11:33:48 2019 No.13341842

>>13339965
This. I'm lucky enough to have a small farm where I can grow a variety of crops each season. I also have a coop and barn for eggs and milk. I even have learned to make my own cheese. I raise pigs, but not for meat as I've trained them to dig for truffles. In my spare time I fish a lot and enjoy the bounty of sea as well as the nearby rivers and lakes. I've learned to cook with the fruits of my labor, either from watching cooking shows or from recipes from friends. I'm healthy and have a beautiful blonde wife. Life is good. However...
I think I too may have an eating disorder. I can't remember the last time I are where I wasn't in a dangerous cavern. I should probably talk to doc Harvey about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 11:35:00 2019 No.13341848 >>13339965 There are no amino acids or "good fats" you cant get from veganism

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 11:35:02 2019 No.13341849

>>13339945
Most diet changes are just placebo. On an all meat diet you are guaranteed to spike your bad cholesterol and raise your risk of heart disease due to increased consumption of saturated fats and increased blood pressure. Vegan diet, while also placebo, at least lowers cholesterol and blood pressure, while usually also reducing weight because of the caloric density differences in the two food sets we are comparing.

These Instagram foodies all have latent eating disorders. Just eat healthy folks. That means eating a lot of veg and a tiny bit of meat for protein, only when you are physically active.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 12:00:48 2019 No.13341946

>>13341791
Doesnt make sense
>>13341841
>He chose too because he'd be the cryptkeeper without them, retard
Retard you dont understand how steroids work. They crash your natural production when you come off of them if you dont PCT. This is getting away with using steroids 101, you use them uo until your test, come off and your levels are low appearing not only that youre not on steroids but oh golly gee im actually lower than normal wow it must really be thx to my hardwork oh and btw buy my supplements guys. 99% of fitness youtubers do what I just described. You dont actually know what youre talking about humble yourself and stop.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 12:03:00 2019 No.13341955
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>>13341946
I never said anything about how steroids work you fat fucking retard. You're just strawmanning because your dad simulator is a low T cuck like you and would look as fugly as you without his gear. Cope harder

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 12:06:30 2019 No.13341969 >>13341613 I came here just for this and it took this long?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 12:07:05 2019 No.13341971 >>13341946 >uhhhrr whaat??! God just stop posting, dumbass. You're embarrassing yourself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 12:33:44 2019 No.13342078 >>13341955 >low test >high risk of cardiovascular event >pre-diabetic What was it you were hoping to accomplish by posting this Shawn?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 12:43:39 2019 No.13342119 >>13341848 There are if you define cholestrol as a "good" for you, which carnietards are more than happy to do. >>13341955 >dad simulator You didn't have to fucking kill him, dude...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 12:45:11 2019 No.13342127 >>13342078 But anon, cholestrol is good for you & his testosterone is more "efficient" because meat is magical, and diabetes is a made-up disease just like the HAES tumblrinas say! So these are actually GOOD values!!

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 12:49:52 2019 No.13342143

>>13341955
Wtf are you talking about you are saying how they work. By posting that info you are commenting on how they affect his body how do you not get that?
>cope
No one is coping im explaining to you why his tests come back low
>>13342119
>>dad simulator
what does this mean dick rider?
>>13341971
Keep samefagging up the thread faggot nigger

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 12:56:41 2019 No.13342166

>>13342143
And the other anon is explaining to you that yes, his T is low because he's off cycle, but he probably takes roids BECAUSE he's low T to begin with and can't build muscles without it, which is why his physique and lifts aren't roid-level despite the juice and totally achievable natty. Also, him juicing doesn't explain his other godawful values. The man is sick and fucking dying because he's an insecure beta trying to "btfo vegans epic style" with his cringy meat-only diet which he thinks makes him tough and manly.

>dad simulator
It means you don't have an actual father figure to look up to in real life so you find faux-masculine e-celebs to look up to as ideal of masculinity instead, and cling to them like a drowning man to flotsam. Therefore it hurts your feefees when they are revealed as low test cucks whilst the supposedly effeminate vegans you shit on have high T. Loser.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 13:02:04 2019 No.13342186

>>13342166
>but he probably takes roids BECAUSE he's low T to begin with
speculation
>lifts aren't roid-level despite the juice and totally achievable natty
hes old dude
>him juicing doesn't explain his other godawful values
it might, you dont know that it doesnt
>find faux-masculine e-celebs to look up to as ideal of masculinity instead
Complete 100% projection. I dont like or worhsip shawn baker in fact I think hes a faggot im simply saying you can not use him as an example to prove your point cause hes a gear head. Me pointing that out doesnt equate to any of the rubbish you just said you faggot nigger.
>effeminate vegans you shit on
Except ive done literally none of that you retarded nigger

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 13:11:37 2019 No.13342216 >>13342186 >you dont know that it doesnt Yes, anon, he takes special magical steroids that make him pre-diabetic, even though this is not a known side-effect of juice. >h-he's a faggot I don't worship him Aw, sweetie....

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 13:13:58 2019 No.13342222 File: 285 KB, 470x470, 1572269625207.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13342119 >Not knowing there is good cholesterol and you need cholesterol to function The absolute state of vegtards

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 13:16:24 2019 No.13342232 >>13342216 >Aw, sweetie.... ok? The first time i ever heard of him was from a clip on joe rogan and then people making fun of his lab results I know nothing about him beyond that what do yo want from me?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 13:20:33 2019 No.13342250 >>13341955 based dubs also don't forget he lost his medical license for pushing his shitty lifestyle

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 13:26:55 2019 No.13342282 >>13340911 Look mom I posted this fake shit again! Not having an erection for 4 years is normal! My T levels are off the charts!!! :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 14:16:45 2019 No.13342519 >>13342232 To stop defending his shitty diet and abyssmal blood work. >>13342222 Dietary cholesterol, jackass. Your body makes what it needs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 14:52:47 2019 No.13342727 >>13342519 >To stop defending his shitty diet I never did once, show me where I did >abyssmal blood work Im EXPLAINING it, neither side of the debate should be using this jackass's bloodwork

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 15:26:26 2019 No.13342892 File: 702 KB, 1029x686, 1548735001056.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13341394 Vegan women can't mate They're sterile due to the low bf% induced by their memediet

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 15:28:46 2019 No.13342904 File: 41 KB, 960x536, 1518975634888.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13342519 >Your body makes what it needs. Man you really are retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 15:42:32 2019 No.13342920 test

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 15:43:34 2019 No.13342925 >>13342904 Yes it does you fucking braindead monkey. Do you have a liver or did your fat ass drink that away?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 15:45:26 2019 No.13342936 >>13342727 You're explaining it with completely pathetic coping bunk. Hes a low T fugly cuckold like you. >>13342143 You genuinely are fucking retarded. Get your brain checked, dumbass. You cant even keep up with two fucking sentences

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 15:47:48 2019 No.13342953 >>13339945 Good for her, just don't be like john wayne and eat steak 3 meals a day for 30 years and end up with 50+pounds of feces in your colon when you die. He could've had some broccoli or greens instead of potatoes from time to time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 15:50:27 2019 No.13342966 >>13339945 she's cute af

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 15:52:48 2019 No.13342976 >>13339965 diet I've felt best on is keto long-term might not be the best, but I have self control problems and keto works for me

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 15:54:04 2019 No.13342987 There's historical evidence of humans being healthy while eating only a meat based diet their whole lives. There has been zero evidence of any person living a healthy life while on a pure vegan diet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 15:54:34 2019 No.13342992 >>13342925 You make most of it but you still need a decent part of your cholesterol from food you mong

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:01:33 2019 No.13343036

>>13342987
>>13342987
>eating only a meat based diet
>only

what's wrong with eating meat and veggies? what is it with all these stupid health fads? early humans ate meat and fruit/vegetables/mushrooms..anything they could forage. Eating nothing but meat will wreak your intestines/colon/kidneys.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:10:35 2019 No.13343093 >vegan health benefits >carnivore diet health benefits baka, baka, BAKA maybe one day all these extreme diet idiots will figure out that to be healthy you need to eat both veggies and meat, cut out grains and sugar if you want to be extra healthy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:17:57 2019 No.13343126 File: 1.24 MB, 1121x1061, bacon-and-eggs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13343093 keto it is. thx based anon.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:29:12 2019 No.13343173

>>13340608

I love my cat more than most people but the only reason I ever stopped eating meat was because my Uni partner was a cute vegan and I wanted to sleep with her.

I’d rather eat meat and jerk off than be vegan. I could do pescatarian but full of vegans are psycho always checking thing, like those people with diseases who can’t feel pain god what a cluster fuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:31:00 2019 No.13343174 Pics of her abs?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:31:05 2019 No.13343175 >>13342992 No you don't you fucking retard. Cholesterol is not a nutrient of concern. You synthesize it from literally any lipids.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:31:08 2019 No.13343176 When did people forget humans can eat meat AND veggies?

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:31:49 2019 No.13343178

This is probably only a temporary effect of switching to from vegan to carni so quickly. Of course you would get a sudden rush of energy and mental clarity due to all the high quality fat, protein, and nutrients you were either missing or low on. There's no way you can convince me a 24/7 carnivore diet lasting more than a few months would be anything but unhealthy for you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:32:47 2019 No.13343180 >>13342987 >There's historical evidence of humans being healthy while eating only a meat based diet their whole lives. No there isnt. Ellsworth Wareham was a centenarian vegan

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:38:51 2019 No.13343205 File: 400 KB, 1080x1350, BD08F189-7743-4F00-8AF5-462458B2647C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13343174 She doesn’t have huge definition like a long distance runner but she’s certainly very attractive.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:42:22 2019 No.13343218 >>13343205 I was just thumbing thru her other pics. Good figure, cute little biceps. Looks great for a vegan

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:42:58 2019 No.13343221 >>13342936 Your autism is insane. Learn about steroids then come back

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:43:14 2019 No.13343224 >>13343205 cute 7/10

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:43:59 2019 No.13343228 >>13343218 (who eats meat)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:46:42 2019 No.13343241 >>13340308 Veggies and fruits are poisonous though

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:49:26 2019 No.13343251 >>13343218 >I was just thumbing thru her other pics link?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:50:29 2019 No.13343259 >>13343251 https://www.instagram.com/alyseparkerr/

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:50:32 2019 No.13343260 >>13343251 Just google her name. She has an Instagram.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:50:39 2019 No.13343261 >>13343251 Her insta is public. I wasn't expecting that for some reason.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:52:18 2019 No.13343267 >>13343180 There's plenty of meat eaters who lived older than him, and more over 90 that eat meat everyday.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:55:44 2019 No.13343284 >>13343260 I most certainly will not >>13343259 thanks fren >>13343261 you're dead to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:56:37 2019 No.13343287 >>13341849 >bad cholesterol

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 16:57:21 2019 No.13343290 File: 108 KB, 1200x800, Goomba.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13343176 >the eternal centrist Pick a side, you weak fag, or gtfo! It's war now, they want our meat!

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:00:35 2019 No.13343305
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>>13343180
>There's historical evidence of humans being healthy while eating only a meat based diet their whole lives.
>No there isnt.
But there's actually quite a few to be known.
Pingersugarook lived 100+ years on a carnivore diet, and has been on that diet longer than Wareham was a vegan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:03:16 2019 No.13343314 >>13343180 He became a vegan after 50

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:26:58 2019 No.13343428 >>13343314 he also ate eggs and drank milk, so more of a "vegan" than a vegan. good marketing though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:28:44 2019 No.13343441 >>13343428 I forgot that old school vegans weren't exactly vegans by today's standards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:36:02 2019 No.13343469 >>13343221 You have severe brain damage. Nobody is fucking talking about steroids except you fucking schizo faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:38:11 2019 No.13343475 >>13343314 And lived to 104 >>13343428 Misframing

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:40:19 2019 No.13343486 >>13343475 >And lived to 104 Any other "vegan" kniwn to live that long? Because there's tons of meat eaters that do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:43:08 2019 No.13343500 >>13343486 >There has been zero evidence of any person living a healthy life while on a pure vegan diet. Cool coping mechanism https://youtu.be/jIYPfjqwhFM

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:44:17 2019 No.13343509 >>13343441 >be me VEGAN >mother breastfed until I was 3 >will never be a true lifer Just waiting for my hemp to dry so I can fassen the noose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:44:41 2019 No.13343512 >>13343305 I see nothing about this person's diet

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:44:54 2019 No.13343515 >>13343500 I'm not going to click on your channel tranny. Just give me a list.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:45:57 2019 No.13343518 >>13343512 He's Eskimo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:46:48 2019 No.13343524 >>13343428 Continuing to eat eggs and milk is way more reasonable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:47:36 2019 No.13343531 >>13343518 So you have nothing

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:47:44 2019 No.13343534 >>13343524 It's not vegan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:48:38 2019 No.13343538 >>13343515 >There has been zero evidence of any person living a healthy life while on a pure vegan diet. Cool coping mechanism, virgin. Dilate your micropenis https://youtu.be/jIYPfjqwhFM

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:48:53 2019 No.13343541 >>13343531 >So you have nothing Eskimo should have given you a big hint to what his diet consistent of.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:50:11 2019 No.13343549 >>13343541 So you have NOTHING

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:50:14 2019 No.13343550 >>13343538 >the retarded vegan reposts to emphasize importance

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:51:46 2019 No.13343557 >>13343549 No, you have nothing, and that's why you had to repeat yourself as per tranny defense mechanism

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:53:27 2019 No.13343567 >>13343469 Yes you retard im trying to explain to you that he purposefully crashed his levels when he came off cycle.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:55:30 2019 No.13343580 >>13343534 sure it is

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:57:32 2019 No.13343592 >>13343550 >the whailing incel whines that coitus has evaded him again

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:58:20 2019 No.13343598 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeanne_Calment >Prayed daily >lived forever Vegans btfo

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:58:34 2019 No.13343599 >>13343557 Okay, incel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 17:59:43 2019 No.13343610 >>13343567 NOBODY cares you schizo retard. Not the point.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:01:24 2019 No.13343619 >>13343592 >>13343580 The faggots from Reddit posted proof of non vegans, but still want to claim victory. They aren't even the oldest people to have lived, and we're a small minority of supercentarians (not to mention weren't try vegans).

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:04:12 2019 No.13343646 >>13343599 >muh incel Why is this the go to insult from lefties? Are they not aware that heteros actually have sex?

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:06:24 2019 No.13343658
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>>13343646
Basically all lefty insults are rooted in projection, so in this case it's because "male" feminists either struggle dramatically to get laid or can't get laid at all so they try to turn themselves into the gf they could never have.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:08:26 2019 No.13343677

>>13343175
Like I said bro, they NEED to believe it's good for you and you need it because all the evidence clearly shows vegan -> good cholesterol levels and meat -> bad cholesterol levels. You either declare all science a kike conspiracy or just the part that says we make all the cholesterol we need. Add the fact that cholesterol is a precursor to testosterone and you'll have brainlets jumping to conclusions that meat=manly because why not biochem is for nerds anyway.

>>13343036
>>13343176
Question is, do you NEED to eat meat? Because if not, how do you justify doing so given the evident problems is causes? Most people either deny those problems and invent bullshit pseudo-science or have the meat-industry deliever it to them. Or they invent some contrived semi-philosophical reason by which they justify meat-eating that JUST BY PURE COINCIDENCE happens to align PERFECTLY with the cultural and social norms surrounding meat-eating and animals in the particular place in space and time where they live.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:10:04 2019 No.13343690 >>13343677 >NEED SHALL NOT INFRINGE

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:10:35 2019 No.13343692 >>13343567 Did he purposfully make himself prediabetic and in risk of heart failure too?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:13:11 2019 No.13343705 >>13343677 >do you NEED to eat meat? yes you do, you need a balance in the food you eat just like everything else in life. life revolves around balance and moderation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:15:36 2019 No.13343716 >>13343610 >Not the point Except it is faggot >>13343692 No, that isnt MY point. Listen im not defending him at all I think hes a faggot im simply saying what youre saying isnt valid in HIS specific case. Choose another case thats all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:15:56 2019 No.13343717 >>13339945 >“If you had to kill every animal you ate in this video... Yeah and if I had to assemble my own smartphone I'd still be using a landline. No shit Sherlock

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:16:37 2019 No.13343719

>>13343705
What a bullshit fucking low-effort excuse. "M-muh BALANCE of murder, rape and environmental destruction! B-balance means it's good, r-right?". There is no reason to presume you need meat, based on current scientific consensus as has been shown again and again, meaning you chose to eat it for pleasure, meaning you must take responsibility for the consequences and blame you chose to share in.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:19:06 2019 No.13343732 File: 993 KB, 1280x960, 0743227890.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I could kill a single animal, and get all the nutrition I need to keep me healthy, but I can't find a single plant that would do the same.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:19:07 2019 No.13343733

meat IS murder
that's basically a fact

but that's fine
almost everything is murder
you cant make a single action without directly or indirectly causing suffering to another organism. so all actions are morally unjustifiable. so theres little difference between them.
eat your steak killer, and make mine medium

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:19:08 2019 No.13343734 >>13343719 >i'm a veg shill

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:20:36 2019 No.13343743 >>13343719 I don't really eat too much red meat but you sound like a fucking hippie, get a job you stupid hippie.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:22:57 2019 No.13343755

>>13343716
So your point is his T crashed because he went off cycle? Cool, because then I agree.

IN ADDITION to that, I also BELIEVE he is juicing to begin with because he's pretty low T and can't build muscle otherwise (also no carbs lol) as evidenced by his lackluster physique and strenghts inspite of roids. IN ADDITION TO THAT I also think his low T was the least concerning part of the blood-work, and that we should focus on the heart issues and diabetes, which are not something his roid abuse can explain away and are likely to be direct results of his diet.

>>13343732
So eat several plants then you fucking idiot. Why the arbitrary "hurr durr gonna be one lel 1!" restriction? Pointless. You have good taste in catgirls though so you're alright.

>>13343734
>>13343743
Seething butthurt carniecuck cope is not arguments.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:23:07 2019 No.13343756 >>13343646 You dont, virgin, not consensually anyways

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:24:03 2019 No.13343762

>>13343719

You’re right I don’t need to eat meat. I want to fucking eat meat. I want to toss a chicken breast into a slow cooker and have a delicious shredded chicken sandwich or make a curry or seafood risotto.

I’m not taking responsibility for shit. I don’t care if there are incidents of mistreatment. I’m not sorry if this makes me an asshole because I want the convenience of grabbing delicious animals at the store to enjoy all week.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:24:18 2019 No.13343763 >>13343716 Except it isn't. Nobody gives a shit about your strawmanning. Quit fucking whiteknighting your dad simulator >>13343677 They dont care to discuss. Only to affirm their own biases

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:25:25 2019 No.13343768

>>13343755
>So your point is his T crashed because he went off cycle? Cool, because then I agree.
YES
>etc
I dont disagree with any of that
>>13343763
>Except it isn't. Nobody gives a shit about your strawmanning. Quit fucking whiteknighting your dad simulator
Again none of this si true or applies to me you projecting faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:25:49 2019 No.13343770 >>13343768 Except it is

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:26:02 2019 No.13343773 >>13343755 people like you are why people don't want to be vegan, dude.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:26:44 2019 No.13343777

>>13343755
>So eat several plants then you fucking idiot. Why the arbitrary "hurr durr gonna be one lel 1!" restriction? Pointless. You have good taste in catgirls though so you're alright.
Give me a list of plants to replace everything I could get from eating a single animal without having to use supplements.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:27:12 2019 No.13343779 File: 359 KB, 500x500, 1392089716254.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What would happen to your body if you only ate meat once a week?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:28:02 2019 No.13343782 >>13343773 >i dont like him, therefore point is invalid Veganism would serve to not have retards like you. Thanks for not trying it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:28:34 2019 No.13343785 >>13343779 I would be grumpy from lack of chicken thighs.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:29:13 2019 No.13343789 >>13343777 Potatoes and fortified cereal if you want to be minimalist. Youre not subsiding off a single animal anyways. Whats the problem with supplements?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:29:35 2019 No.13343790 >>13343756 >You dont, virgin, not consensually anyways >You're a v-virgin, uh I mean a r-rapist Show me your nose.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:30:03 2019 No.13343791 File: 56 KB, 564x777, bc79c560bac6ec53a3338e665f5e6b01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13343785 what about milf thighs?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:30:39 2019 No.13343796 >>13343789 >Whats the problem with supplements? I'm trying to see if it's sustainable off grid, or naturally.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:31:50 2019 No.13343804 >>13343790 Id rather not excite and egg you on for another spree, incy. You can post your tits and microclitdick though. I need a good hearty laugh

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:33:21 2019 No.13343810 >>13343789 Potatoes and no meat turned the irish into retards.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:33:45 2019 No.13343812 >>13343789 >Youre not subsiding off a single animal anyways I could eat only rabbit (farmed) for the rest of my life, and be healthy, or (wild hare with an secondary source for fat).

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:34:54 2019 No.13343821 >>13343804 Did I hit a sore spot?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:35:26 2019 No.13343823 >>13343796 Nature died

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:35:27 2019 No.13343824 >>13339945 vegan is a religion not a diet.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:35:57 2019 No.13343827 >>13343804 She didn't win btw.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:35:57 2019 No.13343828 File: 29 KB, 800x595, 9732130E-AE77-4937-A6F1-3F3884E70B8A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13343791 Only if it’s late 90’s era Dana Scully.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:37:00 2019 No.13343834 File: 1.63 MB, 245x335, 1458945045532.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13343828 what about 2010s bust milf scully?

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:37:14 2019 No.13343837

>>13343762
>I want to do whatever I want because I feel like it and it's all about me and you can't stop me and I won't take any responsibility! I don't care!
You're a child, or an edgy teen at best.

>>13343768
Cool then what's the issue?

>>13343773
No. You don't want to be vegan because you don't want to. You then use the passion of activists against them and say they're scared you off but that's horseshit. I think anti-drug activists can be really fucking annoying sometimes, but guess what? I don't do drugs! Because I base my decision of what the science says is best for my health and don't do the opposite of whatever someone annoying says just because.

>>13343777
Just eat as many veggies and fruits as you can and take a b12 supplement.
>b-but it HAS to be without supplements because I arbitrarily decided that to troll you!!!
Fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:37:24 2019 No.13343839 >>13343823 What are you trying to say here?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:37:41 2019 No.13343841 >>13343834 cringe

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:39:07 2019 No.13343845 >>13343821 Oh yeah definitely. You just hit it again with that virgin wit!! Oh god!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:39:38 2019 No.13343849 File: 40 KB, 474x711, 0f2d9bdf954cbdac2ad22b6bd33e9365.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13343841 cringe this bitch!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:39:40 2019 No.13343851 >>13343837 >b-but it HAS to be without supplements because I arbitrarily decided that to troll you!!! See >>13343796 and >>13343812 You make veganism seem even more retarded desu.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:40:31 2019 No.13343857 >>13343837 >Cool then what's the issue? retards are strawmaning what im saying, see>>13343770

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:41:13 2019 No.13343861 >>13343812 The amount youd have to eat would hit a feedback loop of you just getting worse in health outcomes.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:42:22 2019 No.13343870 >>13343857 You don't know what strawman means. You're strawmanning and using a red herring about steroids when people arent saying anything contrary to their effects

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:43:41 2019 No.13343876 >>13343845 >virginity/chastity as an insult I'm not a child anon, and what you say to rape underage kids won't work on me, you mentally ill degenerate.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:44:18 2019 No.13343882 >>13343782 >i care about the animals >retarded people shouldn't be vegans though because they ruin it!!! >>13343837 i never said if i was vegan or not :^)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:45:18 2019 No.13343886 >>13343861 >The amount youd have to eat would hit a feedback loop of you just getting worse in health outcomes. Are you saying this about veggies, or the animal?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:45:45 2019 No.13343889 >>13339981 Imagine the RELEASE

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:46:33 2019 No.13343894 >>13343876 Okay, incel.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:47:05 2019 No.13343896

>>13343851
It's an arbitrary restriction. 1) You're not in a situation where you have to be off-grid. 2) You could have a stash of b12 off-grid too 3) You could eat 99% vegan and have some eggs or milk occassionally to get that b12

>>13343882
Then you're just wrong about what makes meatcucks tick.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:47:34 2019 No.13343899 >>13343882 >incels strawgrasping this hard Yikesarooni

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:49:33 2019 No.13343908 I tried veganism for six months. >constantly had to wipe shit grease from ass without having to shit >zero gains and no energy >was accused of being a tweaker by everyone

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:52:16 2019 No.13343918 >>13343908 What exactly did you eat? Average day?

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:52:38 2019 No.13343919

>>13343896
>It's an arbitrary restriction. 1) You're not in a situation where you have to be off-grid.
But I am.
>) You could have a stash of b12 off-grid too
It's an extra worry that isn't needed
>You could eat 99% vegan and have some eggs or milk occassionally to get that b12
So be not vegan?
>>13343894
>Tranny brain went into a bootloop.
This is the power of veganism.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 18:56:48 2019 No.13343933 >>13343919 >t-tranny (x3) The whailing incel cries again. You're not living off grid you fat virgin lol you should be worried about having consensual sex.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:00:42 2019 No.13343946

>>13343919
>So be not vegan?
I'm not gonna let the perfect be the enemy of the good. If you're in a situation where you legit can't get b12 supplements or it's to incovenient, you need a non-animal source because you MUST get b12. But you don't have to be an ordinary omnivore, you can do 99% plant-based and eat some eggs or milk or even bivalves in small quanitites occasionally. You would not be vegan, no, but not being able to be 100% vegan is not an excuse to not try and get as close as possible given the restrictions you face. If 99% is legit the best you can do, than do that.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:02:29 2019 No.13343952

>>13343918
Mostly kale, carrots, beets, spinach, and the usual salads. A lot of rawjuice for mornings.
I farmed my own spirulina, and sourced sea grapes.
I ate a lot as directed by a few books, and my supplements were
>Zinc
>Calcium
>Omega-3
>B-12
>Iron
>Iodine
>Vitamin d
>5htp
I had a lot of supplements basically a whole cupboard full.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:06:12 2019 No.13343959 >>13343933 >You don't have sex >Youre a rapist >You don't live off-grid >You should be worried Lel. You're, so unsuccessful in life that you cannot even imagine that others are able to get by.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:11:39 2019 No.13343980 >>13343946 What if I'm vegan, but eat raw liver for health? Is this acceptable?

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:14:01 2019 No.13343991

>>13339945
>A formerly vegan influencer revealed to her fans that she spent 30 days eating nothing but meat and animal products. She also revealed that the new diet had some surprisingly positive effects on her health.
I wonder how many vegans ecelebs are eating meat as well

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:16:55 2019 No.13344001 >>13343991 Only the ones in your warped mind fantasies corrupted by carnist cult media sites.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:16:58 2019 No.13344003 >>13343980 Only if it's human liver because humans don't count as animals to Vegans. With some fava beans and a nice Chianti, delicious.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:17:28 2019 No.13344004

>>13343952
OK, good veggie sources there. Fruit? Legumes? Beans? Where are your fat and protein sources? Did you track your calories and marcros at all?

Sounds like overkill with supplements too.

>>13343980
Is it vegan? Of course not. But "acceptable" is relative. It depends on your needs and situation. If you're in a place where you truly cannot go 100% vegan and ABSOLUTELY MUST eat raw liver? Well if you must then you must, but from an ethical perspective you would keep animal products to an absolute minimum and consume them more like a medicine than a food. I just doubt you are in this situation because I can't imagine anyone having that specific need, so I'm going to assume you are trolling.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:22:25 2019 No.13344028

>>13339965
>The best diets are Mediterranean and whole foods which have the same heart health benefits of veganism while also allowing the eating of meat which provides more essential amino acids and good fats.
You have no casual evidence for anything you have posted

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:23:35 2019 No.13344034 >>13341848 Animal forms of omega 6

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:25:36 2019 No.13344043 >>13340308 >because your cutting out the wrong things. not just certain vegetables but other fruits too >imagine thinking fruits and vegeatbales are actually healthy Moron https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5KbDq6eM4A

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:27:15 2019 No.13344052 >>13343908 Same, and +1 for constantly leaky butthole.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:28:00 2019 No.13344058

>>13344004
>from an ethical perspective you would keep animal products to an absolute minimum and consume them more like a medicine than a food.
Is this how vegan's lived before the fiat money became digital?
At least in America there are animal products in every bill minted before 2004.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:28:25 2019 No.13344062 >>13340308 You literally can get all your nutrients from an animal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:28:58 2019 No.13344066 File: 120 KB, 1064x432, read.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13340911 >Vegan men have higher testosterone Do you even know what SHBG is you fucking retard?

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:31:03 2019 No.13344075

>>13341598
>Experts, dietary and medical organisations, scientific consensus: "A well-planned vegan diet can absolutely be healthy at all stages of life, and may even have many advantages for health and the environment!"
Not really, and ad verecundiam isnt an argument
https://www.reddit.com/r/AntiVegan/comments/drw3th/all_major_health_organizations_say_vegan_diets/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=AntiVegan&utm_content=t3_e3c2om

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:31:56 2019 No.13344079

>>13344004
> I just doubt you are in this situation because I can't imagine anyone having that specific need, so I'm going to assume you are trolling.
What makes it, so unbelievable to you?
To me anons off grid life & needs are more believable than forcing yourself to be a vegan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:32:36 2019 No.13344081 >>13341841 Do you realize there are 11 known types of LDL and to this day none of which have been shown to have a casual relation with heart disease?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:34:07 2019 No.13344087 >>13344075 Carnist cope literally BTFO!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:34:23 2019 No.13344088 >>13341849 flexitarian diet is the way to go ofc

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:39:48 2019 No.13344113 >>13344081 Did you know thats a complete lie?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:40:41 2019 No.13344118 When you make fun of vegans for eating only plant based foods and not having diversity in their diet so you just eat meat and die after not getting potassium or your vitamins.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:41:04 2019 No.13344121 >>13344034 >animal forms Yeah nice try. >>13343959 >n-no!! Damn you got me, almighty rapist!!

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:42:03 2019 No.13344126

>>13344058
The definition of ethical veganism is to "exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose". So if you are in a situation where you have no choice and it isn't possible, then that's that. It's about avoiding the nirvana fallacy and doing your best. Now shitpost something about how you "have to" eat bacon and therefore bacon is vegan or whatever fucking brainfart I'll be forced to read and be done with it.

>>13344075
>ad verecundiam isnt an argument
True. If one says "X is true because Y says so and Y is an authorty!" then that would indeed be a fallacy. However it is different to relying on the consensus of many experts and organisations when one lacks expertise oneself. That is, saying that "the Earth revolves around the Sun because Neil deGrasse Tyson says so!" is a fallacy (even though it happens to be true). It is not a fallacy to say "I'm not an astronomer myself, but the consensus of all astronomers and relevant expert bodies is that the Earth revolves around the Sun, so lacking reliable evidence to the contrary and the expertise needed to refute this position, I will accept the scientific consensus as true." In this latter case, it isn't true BECAUSE the experts say it - the expert testamonials all taken together just allow me a better shot at figuring out what is true in the absence of expert knowledge of my own.

>>13344079
The "need" for raw liver specifically, which is favorite of carnivores, who like to troll vegans, makes me think it's a troll. He is free to explain his need and I will change my mind if it isn't a troll.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:43:06 2019 No.13344133 >>13344066 They have higher test and its slightly offset by shbg. Cope. >>13344075 >veganism is unhealthy bro listen to me!! >medical professionals provide evidence it is?!?! Appeal to authority!! The constant backpedaling is so fucking hilarious

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 19:44:54 2019 No.13344144

>>13344087
Imagine being so triggered by vegans you post on reddit about it as a hobby. Imagine writing that wall of fucking text just to get approval from your antivegan internet buddies, because you can't handle someone eating plants.

>>13344133
Interesting how expert opinions are valid when it's the opinion of Baker or Kay.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 20:01:32 2019 No.13344230 >>13344126 >The "need" for raw liver specifically, which is favorite of carnivores Raw liver is a favorite of anyone who wants vitamins. Most "carnivores" can't into the taste.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 20:02:55 2019 No.13344233 There's too much conflicting studies on veganism, so I'll just keep eating meat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 20:04:08 2019 No.13344237 >>13344233 Name the conflicting studies

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 20:06:40 2019 No.13344246 >>13344237 Health benefits are always conflicting, and/or inconclusive. One study will say sure veganism may help, and then another will say veganism is a bad.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 20:16:26 2019 No.13344287

>>13344233
Then the industry plan worked as intended. Fund research to say the opposite of what the consensus say to create uncertainty and doubt. It won't completely change most mind, but it'll keep people from changing since they can't be sure whom to trust. Tobacco industry did the same crap, and so did the fossil fuel industry.

>>13344246
Except the ones who say it's bad are connected to the meat, egg and/or dairy industry in 90% of the cases.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 20:18:15 2019 No.13344299 >>13344287 >Except the ones who say it's bad are connected to the meat, egg and/or dairy industry in 90% of the cases The ones who say that they're bad are usually tied in to universities.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 21:26:03 2019 No.13344609

>>13340348
They're some fucking horrible gatekeepers, too. If you're not 100% vegan, you're a piece of shit. I checked the vegan reddit a month ago or so and they were gatekeeping someone who said "If you can't go full vegan right away, then that's okay. Cut out what you can and take cheat days for the things you feel you can't live without. Every little bit helps". Or some shit like that. The gatekeeping retards told her to shut the fuck up, calling her literally retarded, etc etc. They're literally religious fanatics and view anyone who's not 100% vegan to be a heretic and not a real vegan.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 21:30:19 2019 No.13344630 >>13341135 did you fugg her?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 21:33:27 2019 No.13344642 >>13340792 abhorrent post

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 21:35:10 2019 No.13344648 >>13339945 I bet she doesn't shave and I want her to sit on my face.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 21:38:17 2019 No.13344664 >>13343719 cringe no wonder people despise you

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 21:43:57 2019 No.13344689 >>13344287 https://www.npr.org/2010/08/02/128849908/food-for-thought-meat-based-diet-made-us-smarter sorry evolution says you're an idiot,

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 22:08:10 2019 No.13344780

>>13344689
Apart from being completely disconnected from what I said, your point is meaningless. Nobody is denying meat was a necessary component of human diets in the past or claiming humans could have been vegan all along. But something having been necessary at one point in history does not mean it's still so - prove that a vegan diet is impossible to do in our time or fuck off.

>>13344664
Saying the word "cringe" doesn't disprove my point.

>>13344609
If you're not 100% vegan, you're not vegan. However, if you can't do 100% at the moment for some reason, do your best. "Neargan" is fine, and I think more people would be interested in what vegans have to say if they knew they wouldn't be policed or have to commit 100%. Begin by reducing animal products and learning to prepare plant-based meals. See how you feel. Keep going if you feel good. You're not 100% vegan but it's not like that some sort of badge of merit you HAVE to get, right?

>>13344299
Oh noes! The conspiracy is uncovered! The people telling you THE TRUTH are connected to places of learning and knowledge and to highly educated people commited to uncovering truth who mostly lack industry ties and have no incentive to lie! However shall I recover from this??

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 22:20:49 2019 No.13344820 >>13344780 The mental breakdown happens... Sorry I stay away from vegan now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 22:21:51 2019 No.13344823 >>13344689 >conjecture

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 22:26:22 2019 No.13344848 >>13344780 >you're not vegan Sure you are. Vegans eat meat al the time. Guy I work with is vegan, wont shut up about it. Ate burgers like everybody else when the group went out to red robin last week.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 22:41:31 2019 No.13344899

>>13343176
everything is partisan politics nowadays, even something as dumb as diets. Vegans recoil as they see you eat meat, Carnitards recoil when you tell them you like meat subsitute.
Reality is WHO the fuck WOULDN'T want the whole grocery store at their disposal and purposely cucks themselves to a tiny part?
Thats insanity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 22:51:28 2019 No.13344934 >>13344899 Hating meat substitutes is quite different from simply hating meat.

Anonymous Mon Dec 9 23:16:44 2019 No.13345005
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>>13344899
I literally do not give a fuck what vegans eat. It's sad to see vegans starving their children to bloated famine baby levels .. but logically I can't do anything about it, and vegan mommies insist on killing their children, a new abortion method?

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 00:21:42 2019 No.13345211 Love reading vegan threads while munching on some nice ass ribeye I got from my butcher and having a freezer full of elk and deer meat. Life is good.

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Anonymous Tue Dec 10 02:57:57 2019 No.13345676

I can get behind eating less meat.
For most people anyway, I don't even eat that much.
But why would I want to be vegan?
I have a job, I got things to do.
Besides that I'll just miss cheese, milk, yoghurt, chicken, eggs.
I just don't believe eggs are bad for you in moderation!
Besides that I don't wanna spend my time learning new recipes, special stores, counting micros,
In short why should I stock up on shelves full of pills when it's available in "normal" food.
Best I can do is organic freerange.
Convince me otherwise.
Keep in mind my spare time is limited.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:00:10 2019 No.13345680 >>13339981 as it should be for all women

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:10:13 2019 No.13345696 >>13345680 I bet you were your mother's first bm

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:16:24 2019 No.13345706 >>13340871 If you actually read the post, she claimed that after one day she woke up feeling better. Learn to read you stupid retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:20:11 2019 No.13345713 >>13341207 >Doesn't refute nearly every single post in this thread using ad homeneim against vegans. Okay retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:21:15 2019 No.13345717 >>13341598 Based

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:23:54 2019 No.13345725 >>13343267 >My grandpa smoked a pack a day, and he lived to be 100!!! Time to smoke up!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:28:31 2019 No.13345737 >>13339961 Looks like this poster is a butt-hurt vegan that took her advice. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:32:02 2019 No.13345741 >>13340005 You won't with that vegan micro-penis and soy man-boobs. Fail........

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:32:30 2019 No.13345744 >>13344028 You can literally Google studies on whole foods and Mediterranean diets you fucking mongoloid. Both diets have been shown decreased rates of atherosclerosis and heart disease. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/30817261/

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:39:09 2019 No.13345756 >>13340034 Wow, the vegan cope in this thread. And the vegan soy-boys white-knighting.... COPE BEAN-FAGS......

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:43:54 2019 No.13345763 >>13340169 Gee, you sure talk pretty big there anon. Shame you're under-age.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:44:51 2019 No.13345765 >>13341848 Plant based omegas are less bioavailable than animal based ones. But im sure you'll respond with anti-science vegan handwaving.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:45:56 2019 No.13345768 >>13339945 what's wrong with being a normal fucking human being and just eating everything with some degree of moderation. this vegan-carnivore shit is like dietary horseshoe theory.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:50:34 2019 No.13345782 >>13340883 And you came here to post that? What a fucking waste of electricity that was on your part. FFS.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:52:17 2019 No.13345786 >>13345768 Because people are weak, they can't handle just doing things in moderation. They have to go to extremes and be a cultist to stick with anything and prevent themselves from bloating like lard-filled balloons.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 03:58:07 2019 No.13345809 >>13341129 Imagine living LONGER on a diet like that? Fuck me......

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 04:30:18 2019 No.13345860 File: 1.08 MB, 1280x800, Screenshot_20191209-215813.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13345713 >Ye olde Bangladeshi grammar and syntax poster. No offense but why do you care what white people eat in (clean) countries far away from you??

Anonymous Tue Dec 10 04:34:21 2019 No.13345866

>>13345809
They don't, they're basing that claim on an old study from the seventies, the same research group published a follow up study in 2013 stating that their study seems to only apply to seventh day Adventist vegans/vegetarians as other vegan populations showed no difference im mortality compared to meat eaters. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/1710093

An oxford study comparing vegan/ vegetarian diets to meat eating diets in the UK found no significant difference in mortality rates https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/103/1/218/4569305

An Australian study with 243000 participants showed no difference in mortality rates in vegetarians/ vegans too non- vegetarians https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Vegetarian-diet-and-all-cause-mortality%3A-Evidence-a-Mihrshahi-Ding/9b08642465afab42b351ee9ff5b22a0a87ed9520

Early vegan studies didn't control for extra variables, like exercise, smoking habits, drinking habits and the such. Newer studies do and the claims of longevity due to veganism itself are being shown to be pretty shaky and weak. https://theconversation.com/do-vegetarians-live-longer-probably-but-not-because-theyre-vegetarian-72191

Anonymous Tue Dec 10 04:34:49 2019 No.13345869
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>>13345725
>>My grandpa smoked a pack a day, and he lived to be 100!!

I've noticed the vegan imbeciles use this reverse-strawman argument many times. This is literally something nobody has ever said. Anybody able to analyze this retado-level argument technique??

>> Time to smoke up!!!

More like time to go Vegan and ruin your health. Sadly this includes your forced vegan children's health.

Anonymous Tue Dec 10 04:38:38 2019 No.13345882
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>>13345744
>You can literally Google studies on whole foods and Mediterranean diets you fucking mongoloid. Both diets have been shown decreased rates of atherosclerosis and heart disease.

Meds are meat eating omnivores like me. How in the retarded vegan mind is this an argument for the vegan diet baka gvad.

>Vegan complexion lol

Anonymous Tue Dec 10 04:42:03 2019 No.13345888

>>13345882
Are you retarded anon? I literally advocated for a balanced diet in my post >>13339965
. Then some fuckwit said there was no evidence to back my claims and now I've got your retarded ass who can't even read accusing me of advocating veganism. Kill yourself.

Anonymous Tue Dec 10 04:48:34 2019 No.13345903

Eat a restrictive diet feel great later get deficiencies feel bad. Switch to another restrictive diet feel great later get deficiencies feel bad.
What's next for her lads? The fungus diet?
Also who the fuck goes vegan for health? Isn't it a ethics thing?

Anonymous Tue Dec 10 05:04:04 2019 No.13345928
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>>13345888
>This argument again.

So you are arguing for a diet which includes meat and plants like I eat? And like Elyse eats? (She explains she's consuming coffee, during her so-called carnivore month)

Then you advise me to end my life, for consuming the same diet you do? (Meat eating omnivore)

Your obsessive rage will consume you. Leave flat Earth for sane people.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 05:06:52 2019 No.13345934 File: 176 KB, 1280x800, 1575545294901.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13345903 >Eat meat >Get deficiencies >RIP Lions. You had a good run on flat Earth Lions, but you went extinct due to the deficiencies of eating meat only.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 05:12:14 2019 No.13345942 >>13345928 You clearly cannot read

Anonymous Tue Dec 10 08:33:38 2019 No.13346451

>>13344820
>>13345466
>>13345466
Not arguments.

>>13345942
Always ignore toothless, he has mental issues and will never adress your point and has a tendency to attack omnivores who disagee with him even more than he attacks vegans. He think they'r secret vegans or betraying the carnivore cause or something, idk.

Anonymous Tue Dec 10 08:43:25 2019 No.13346485

>>13345768
>just eating everything with some degree of moderation
That's a meaningless prescription.
All diets do that. Vegan, vegetarian, carnivore, keto, mediterranean, pescatarian - all of them.
Where they differ from each other is in what food groups they moderate, and how severely they moderate them.

Anonymous Tue Dec 10 08:54:48 2019 No.13346499

>>13339945
Same thing happened to me. I was raised in a vegetarian household and was therefore vegetarian as I didn't know better. Friend slowly introduced me to meat and fish and said I should make my own mind up - I felt so much better in myself in just a matter of days of moderate meat consumption. I still eat the odd vegetarian dish but usually have some form of meat dish 6 days a week, feel so much more healthy and energetic, never looked back.

Anonymous Tue Dec 10 09:09:46 2019 No.13346521

>>13346499
Wasn't raised veg, but went veg while in high school. Ate all kinds of shit, worked in veg/vegan restaurant, etc. Slowly got more and more sluggish and hungry as years passed, would eat two whole plates of food and still be hungry, gassy all the time. Ate some chicken at Mom's house and felt super good. Went back to veg, same shit started happening, ate a jar of home canned salmon and was full for the first time in literally years. Said fuck that shit, never looked back.

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>>13346451
You don't need an argument to destroy a starvation cult. Sane individuals just laugh at you. BTW Dr Joel Khan a big vegan just admitted openly that Joe Rogan, Chris Kresser and Shawn Baker eat and promote healthy diets, and that most vegans (looks like you) eat unhealthy vegan junk food diets lol.

RIP in advance some vegans are telling the truth.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 12:07:20 2019 No.13347079 bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 12:56:09 2019 No.13347247 >>13341090 dear god, does his fuel tank require protein and starch now? I'm getting wary of the future

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 13:10:51 2019 No.13347297 >>13346485 >eating everything >absolutely not eating any meat or absolutely only eating meat i bet you thought your post sounded smart in your head you dumb faggot

Anonymous Tue Dec 10 13:16:36 2019 No.13347310

>>13339945
>all the butthurt about her changing her diet

It’s her diet, it’s her choice. 99% of people don’t even know what healthy is, and half of her viewers would probably defend obesity until it’s early death at 40. Fuck vegans and the rest of the delusional niggers

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 13:21:50 2019 No.13347326 >>13340034 Stop being a little faggot Love you btw -your mom

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 13:34:43 2019 No.13347354 >>13339945 Just lift, sis. The good feeling your getting is just one of the tricks that carnism plays on a person. You might "feel better", but you're not actually healthier. You're definitely healthier being vegan

Anonymous Tue Dec 10 15:30:56 2019 No.13347729

>>13339965
>going full carnivore.. been shown to have their fair share of problems over long periods of time

Not true at all. There is one study of 2 men kept in a medical ward for a year in this diet and they were all healthy by the end. But that's it. Definitely no evidence of the opposite.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 15:50:24 2019 No.13347788 >>13347729 but it is 100% important to be raw meat

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 17:31:52 2019 No.13348205 >>13347729 I honestly hate vegans, and i am borderline carnivore myself. But a study with N=2 is a whole bunch of malarky. up your science standards, don't stoop to the levels of vegan """science"""

Anonymous Tue Dec 10 17:46:03 2019 No.13348255

>>13343719
>"M-muh BALANCE of murder, rape and environmental destruction!
Ignorant retard or full on troll. Conventional vegetable farming kills millions of rodents and similar small animals. Your precious vegetables are products of mass murder as well. Go fuck yourself, you sanctimonious bitch.

Anonymous Tue Dec 10 18:07:36 2019 No.13348347

>>13343126
Basically, I suppose but I see no reason to avoid seasonal fruits, melons and berries, nor do I think it necessary to restrict your carbs from vegetables as long as you don't eat pumpkin for breakfast, potatoes for lunch and onion soup for dinner every day. The only things that are really bad for the body in my opinion and experience are concentrated sugars (cane sugar and syrups) and grains of any kind. I also stay away from vegetable oils, which a lot of the dumber adherents of keto tend to still use. Only cold pressed olive oil and lard or tallow.

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 18:22:39 2019 No.13348403 >>13348205 northern skimos live on exclusively raw meat

>>	Anonymous Tue Dec 10 18:25:28 2019 No.13348424 >>13348347 Why are grains bad for the body? Inflammatory?

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