gonna go look at and possibly buy a fancy japanese knife today what sort of questions should i ask? how much should i spend? how do i know if they're trying to rip me off?

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Anonymous Sat Dec 7 10:06:43 2019 No.13331447 [Reply] [Original]

gonna go look at and possibly buy a fancy japanese knife today
what sort of questions should i ask?
how much should i spend?
how do i know if they're trying to rip me off?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 10:07:12 2019 No.13331449 >>13331447 JAPAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 10:10:35 2019 No.13331462 >>13331447 Femanon here, I loooove to travel I wish I could go to Japan too !

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 10:11:18 2019 No.13331468 OH.MY.GOD. I FREAKIN LOOOOOOOOOOOOVEE JAAAPPPPAAAANNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 10:11:49 2019 No.13331469 girugamesh

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 10:12:06 2019 No.13331470 i'm sorry i asked

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 10:12:14 2019 No.13331471 >>13331468 Remember to some soy as well.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 10:13:32 2019 No.13331476 >oWo what's this? >how much money-wuney is this? >you're not trying to rip me off knifeman-kun? >nuzzle-wuzzle

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 10:16:13 2019 No.13331489 File: 31 KB, 414x318, 1574736376742.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >NOOOOOOO not the heckin sharp blade rice boi, not my fast choppy woppy bladey wadey! NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous Sat Dec 7 10:22:23 2019 No.13331510

>>13331447
>how much should i spend?
>how do i know if they're trying to rip me off?
I guess check on eBay closed auctions first and get a feel for the cheap market and what those might look like....

As far as a "deal" or not getting ripped off, these are vanity items, not real tools. They are coming from a country where the yen and price of consumer goods are not consider affordable by other standards and there can be tariffs. In other words, they're luxury market items you buy just cause you want it. I want it, therefore I buy it. So, buy something that is pretty to look at and appeals to you Color, type of wood, amounts of pretty swirls in the blade, and if feels good in your hand. These knives need constant sharpening. Bleh.
A cheap knife doesn't have a full tang and isn't balanced by weight. What do you intend to use your knife for? slicing a sushi roll? slicing bread? filleting fish? General use for everything you intend to make because you only want 1 knife? Santoku style in that case. Or small garnishing or zesting knife. Whatever! Buy several. The price is your own budget.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 16:57:40 2019 No.13333172 >>13331447 >>how do i know if they're trying to rip me off? Google the name of the knife. If you don't get several dozen hits on KKF it's garbage

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 16:59:01 2019 No.13333180 >>13331447 make sure you get one thats folded a minimum 1000 times or its junk

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 19:15:43 2019 No.13333752 Buck 120+ or bust

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 19:17:05 2019 No.13333758 >>13331447 WOW, these must be better because it was made by a real NIPPON person, folded over 1000 times...

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 20:52:10 2019 No.13334167 Sure is assblasted wh*teoid in here. You mad that nobody want your Randall "collectors item" boomer shit anymore?

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 21:02:42 2019 No.13334199 >>13331447 If you don't already have a feel for these questions, you're not ready for this style of knife. They're significantly more delicate than the knives you're used to and you're just going to end up ruining it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 21:03:38 2019 No.13334202 >>13334199 No it's not. You're a fool.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 21:05:24 2019 No.13334211 File: 20 KB, 483x500, 41uDvc2b-bL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13331447 Just get a Opinel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC-_mYndz3M

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 21:07:35 2019 No.13334220 >>13334202 He's absolutely right. They have edges sharpened to a very steep angle, uncovered carbon edges that rust if you don't know what you're doing. Single bevels. It's something you need to know before you buy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 21:09:51 2019 No.13334229 >>13334220 Pretty much every word in this post is wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 21:13:36 2019 No.13334246 >>13334229 Fuk ur mum

Anonymous Sat Dec 7 21:16:29 2019 No.13334256

>>13334229
Do you see the polished edge on the blade in the OPs post, that's the very hard exposed carbon steel, and that will rust. I can't see the back side of that santoku but I refer you to this.

https://kamikoto.com/blogs/fundamentals/understanding-single-and-double-bevel-knives

You can look up japanese carbon steel sharpening angles compared to stainless yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 21:22:08 2019 No.13334283 >>13334256 >kamikoto Jesus h christ Go away

Anonymous Sat Dec 7 21:33:13 2019 No.13334317

>>13331447
What did you end up buying OP? Snap a pic!

You got me thinking about doing a little shopping too, just peeked at Sur La Table online, and saw some sales. I'm looking at the Bob Kramer set. Yikes only sale for $1800. I love the dark grain walnut knife block with it though. But, honestly, I don't need 1 of everything in a full replacement set, was just looking for some fun new addition. What a nice gift that would be for yourself, though.
I love my old Kai Pure Komachi knives and amazingly still sharp as shit. The resell for good money since they no longer make them. They have a colored nonstick coating, and transparent handles. The Komachi 2 is extremely inexpensive, so if you just want something japanese, but not something to take special care with, they pure 2 are also quite sharp and durable workhorses for wet and rough treatment. Slicing without food clinging is nice as well. You can get them at BBB, or even Marshall's or Costco. Their tomato knife is one of my favorite tools.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 21:57:21 2019 No.13334389 >>13333172 Unironically this. They're not immune to hype over at KKF but they're insane enough about knives that if there aren't a fair number of positive mentions over there it probably isn't worth anything.

>>	Anonymous Sat Dec 7 23:29:12 2019 No.13334714 File: 122 KB, 452x391, Girugamesh01[1].png_1322724423.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] my gesshin stainless showed up a few days ago and I still haven't used it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 01:36:10 2019 No.13335096 >>13334714 Do it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 02:22:56 2019 No.13335235 I love how this shithead thread got shut down before it began. Don't buy a goddamn thing until you know your shit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 02:33:30 2019 No.13335266 I'm thinking about ordering a bunka from Takeda-San to go along with my gyuto from him. Though the masakage koishi bunka looks good as well just wish it was a bit bigger for my hands

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 02:37:48 2019 No.13335277 >>13335266 Who are you preparing these meals for and are are you using these blades at all in real life? Or is this just pretend? At least Ivan Orkin realized his life. Are you just dicking around?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 02:44:33 2019 No.13335313 bought a jap knife here in jap since I needed one and honestly Id rather a shitty usual stainless knife. this shit rusts immediately if exposed to anything that contains water. at least it wasnt too expensive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 02:46:30 2019 No.13335317 >>13335277 I work for a hotel and do a LOT of vegetable prep and salad bar work. I just like the style of blades takeda does, but the masakage line looks good for the price.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 02:48:05 2019 No.13335324 >>13335266 When you know nothing about nothing, stop buying expensive shit like a stupid girl on instagram. Grow up, do the work and then make your life meaningful.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 02:49:31 2019 No.13335327 >>13335317 Get a white blade, non slip stainless and know your place. Stop fucking around. Get restaurant gear.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 02:59:29 2019 No.13335361 Meh

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 03:30:34 2019 No.13335453

>>13334256
>Do you see the polished edge on the blade in the OPs post, that's the very hard exposed carbon steel, and that will rust.
An extremely polished surface is unlikely to rust. Unless you're very retarded it likely never will if you polished it to a mirror finish. Rust will always begin in coarse grinded areas first unless protected.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 03:36:06 2019 No.13335466 >>13335324 cringe

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 03:45:30 2019 No.13335498

>>13331510
Santokus are not do everything knives, they don't even have a usable tip. You can't effectively use it to pierce things or choke up on the blade and use the tip to pare or even tourne if you want to be a fag. Santokus are knives for women and vegetables. If you must insist on being an eastern knife using badass try the kiritstuke.

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 03:54:55 2019 No.13335529

>>13335498
If anyone is interested in a phenomenal cheap knife brand check out cozzini. Made in Italy. This shit really works and holds up to the 365 days of busy ass upscale dining I work in. Victorinox and mercer are shit, don't get tricked.

https://www.cozzinibros.com/our-knives/knife-selection/
>>13335498

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 06:46:53 2019 No.13336019 >>13335324 tips fedora

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 07:14:14 2019 No.13336102
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>>13334317
i didn't go
i got annoyed after making this shitty thread and decided i'm going to go during the week and hopefully get the shop owner alone so i can stalk him a bit
i'm thinking something along the lines of pic related

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 08:43:01 2019 No.13336331 >>13335498 Get a paring knife for fine work, you twat. Chef's knives are the 1930's way of cooking. Use your head and ditch the butter churn.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 09:36:22 2019 No.13336514 >>13331447 place has baccarat Damashiro emperor knives for half price gonna by a 6 inch im pretty sure its a meme but fuck it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 09:58:40 2019 No.13336582 imagine being such a weeb you think you need a katana to cut food with lmao

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 10:06:00 2019 No.13336605

/ck/: The knife doesn't matter, literally all the same

Also /ck/: OMG you need to do a PhD on the history and culture of culinary knives plus another PhD in applied metallurgy and materials science before you're allowed to spend $150 on a kitchen tool otherwise your house will explode

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 10:07:03 2019 No.13336606 >>13336605 also /ck/: just save and buy a wustof, or rip it apart with your hands we don't fucking care

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 10:14:00 2019 No.13336627 >>13335498 my main knife is a santoku easier to aim with the point point have to have your elbow in the air just to work tip first chopping in easier and more gentle on the wrist only thing its shit for is rapid slicing and cutting herbs

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 14:29:35 2019 No.13337727

>>13331447
Don't they are garbage, bought a meme knife in Osaka and the blade chipped on a wood cutting board. Yet my 10 dollar easy sharpening Korean knife is a beast. Just go to Good will buy a few knifes that feel good and go online and buy 350 grit 800 and 1k whetstones. Practice the craft of sharpening.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 14:30:36 2019 No.13337730 >>13331462 Im am gay, I don't know if that matters. Japan is cool but go to say Sapporo, Tokyo sucks and Osaka you will hear more chinese spoken than Japanese.

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 14:30:38 2019 No.13337731 what the fuck is the matter with you people?

Anonymous Sun Dec 8 17:50:29 2019 No.13338545
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I got this off amazon on black friday

it was 65$ instead of 125$

I know I shouldnt expect good knives on amazon but it looks pretty, the weight feels good and its rather sharp so far.

Is Tuo a good brand or a meme one?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 17:57:56 2019 No.13338589 >>13338545 >it was 65$ instead of 125$ That's called "price anchoring" and you fell victim to it

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 18:03:38 2019 No.13338615 >>13338545 >Damascus steel HA! Haaaaaaaa ha ha ha!

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 18:57:40 2019 No.13338863 File: 72 KB, 1000x1000, 61lzJARo2wL._SL1000_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I love the design of these things. Anybody have one?

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 18:59:46 2019 No.13338876 File: 44 KB, 640x640, 1566897698575.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13336102 >hopefully get the shop owner alone so i can stalk him a bit

>>	Anonymous Sun Dec 8 19:01:21 2019 No.13338881 >>13338545 >damascus steel you got ripped off. You should only buy blue or white, hand forged steel when buying anything from japanese.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 9 02:25:24 2019 No.13340631 >>13338615 KEK

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