/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.13172872]

>use Kitchenaid mixer once or twice then it collects dust
>"I still use it during the holidays!!"
These things could be pieces of shit for all we know but very few people could actually confirm.

[Anonymous No.13172882]

I don't know why you'd buy a powered mixer unless you bake regularly.

[Anonymous No.13172906]

>>13172882
Most people receive it as a gift.

[Anonymous No.13172907]

Bumping all the threads showing how /ck/ doesn't cook

[Anonymous No.13172934]

>>13172882
I don't know why you'd waste $400 on a Kitchenaid toy when you can spend $1500 and get a 5QT Hobart N50 mixer for your kitchen.

[Anonymous No.13172942]

>>13172934
Because a mixer is not worth the down payment on a used vehicle.

[Anonymous No.13172968]

>>13172934
>400 bucks
Anyone that actually bakes regularly would probably just find these little shits used after the holiday, on sale, or on sale for black friday and get them for like half of that.

[None !2Code3TV3M No.13172969]

>>13172934
I don't know why you'd buy either when you can just get a brand new 'used' mixer from susan after she convinced her husband using the same logic as in the op post
thats what I did for my mixer, I think I got it for like 70 cad and its same model still being sold for 200+ usd nearly a decade later

mind you, it doesn't have 20-30 gimmicky optional attachments
I bet she replaced it with a kitchenaid so she could make her own flour

[Anonymous No.13172981]

>>13172872
I got one for making pizza dough. It would overheat and turn off half way through spinning. Very loud, reminded me of the "ice cream maker" things with the rock salt and ice water, just loud as fuck and half way works.

[Anonymous No.13172994]

>>13172981
>expensive as fuck
>loud as fuck and barely works
I don't understand why people rave about these things. I'm sure at one point in the past these were great but like all things got worse over time.

[Anonymous No.13173001]

>>13172969
The extra attachments are ridiculous. Who at home would regularly make fresh pasta or make foods requiring freshly ground meat? I can see it being a decent peeler and shredder, but you can easily use a normal peeler and grater.

[Anonymous No.13173004]

>>13172872
I use mine almost daily

[None !2Code3TV3M No.13173020]

>>13173001
I dunno about you man, but when I cook, the thing I want to do most is clean every little nook and cranny of every complex device I own
https://www.kitchenaid.ca/en_ca/countertop-appliances/stand-mixers/attachments.html

its mind boggling that the pasta roller and meat grinder attachments are the sanest ones listed here

[Anonymous No.13173032]

I have a vintage Hobart K5 from the 60's or 70's passed down from my grandma. Way better than the low end tilthead modern ones but probably worse than the professional line (it only has a 300W motor). Can definitely hear it struggle with large batches of dough but powers through everything else and I consider the drivetrain fairly bulletproof.

[Anonymous No.13173043]

>>13172994
The great model is still made, it's just harder to find because they keep renaming it.
What you're looking for is the models with lift bowls instead of the top that folds up, and DC motors instead of AC... usually they are indicated with shiny silver knobs instead of black but this goes out the window with the pretty color artisan models.

[Anonymous No.13173048]

>>13173001
fresh pasta is great and once you get it down its pretty quick. I make a lot of ravioli and pierogi and such. Just because you dont like making things from scratch doesnt mean other people dont.

[Anonymous No.13173049]

>>13173020
I don't own any of the attachments but I imagine a lot of them are near impossible to clean. Is this true or am I not seeing something?

[Anonymous No.13173053]

>>13172872
I don't like mine because the minimum volume before it can mix effectively is a bit higher than I normally need. Hand mixers are better for me. It also starts physically rocking if I try to knead dough with it.

[Anonymous No.13173064]

>>13173048
You don't need a pasta maker for filled pastas. You just need a rolling pin and a knife to cut it into rectangles. It's just as easy. Pasta makers are for shapes that are too fiddly too do by hand.

[Anonymous No.13173069]

If you're actual good at cooking then you'll have a lot of excuses to use one but if you spend your time only making processed meals from boxes and cans then it will collect dust. It's good for people who make things from scratch. I use it for mashed potatoes, pizza and bread dough, emulsion sauces, and all kinds of batters. Probably use it 3-4 times a week. They aren't shit btw. Mine was given to me by my grandmother. It's like 30-40 years old now and it's never broken down

[Anonymous No.13173080]

>>13173069
You should check that shear gears are available for your model if it's that old. You may want to stock up on a few while you can. They're designed to break to save the rest of the system from excess stress, so are likely to be the first failure you experience.

[Anonymous No.13173083]

>>13173064
the roller is just easier than using a rolling pin, and I do use the other cutters.

[Anonymous No.13173088]

>>13173080
That's a good idea, anon. Are they an easy dyi fix?

[Anonymous No.13173092]

>>13173088
Yeah, pretty easy.

[Anonymous No.13173097]

>>13173020
>https://www.kitchenaid.ca/en_ca/countertop-appliances/stand-mixers/attachments.html
I didn't even know half of those attachments existed. Some look neat like the vegetable sheet cutter and spiralizer. The ice cream and heating bowl could be fun attachments. I can't imagine the juicers being better than a standalone one. The grain grinder is where it lost me. I know there are people out there who really would do it but it still seems extravagant.

[Anonymous No.13173107]

>on Kitchenaid site: $600+
>everywhere else: $100-$400 new

What's the catch?

[Anonymous No.13173108]

>>13173001
Have you ever had true fresh pasta? Absolutely worth the work. And as far as the meat grinder goes, I hunt and grind my own venison. Plus when I make burgers, meatballs, or meatloaf I always use combinations of meat that I grind together. Usually with fat and trimmings from when I dry age steaks. To each their own though. Its definitely overkill for some people.

[Anonymous No.13173115]

>>13173108
How difficult is it to clean the attachments like the grinder?

[Anonymous No.13173124]

>>13173001
I make pasta at home once every week or two. When I make burgers I grind the meat. Why are you so lazy and dispassionate

[Anonymous No.13173126]

>>13173115
Oh it can be a bitch and a half. Still worth it

[Anonymous No.13173132]

>>13173126
That's what I'm afraid of. For me, it's more about how much work I have to put into cleanup than actually making the food itself.

[Anonymous No.13173181]

>metal grain grinder

Where the fuck would someone find wheat other than actually going to a farm?

[Anonymous No.13173189]

>>13173181
there are many more grains besides wheat

[None !2Code3TV3M No.13173197]

>>13173049
i'm pretty sure you need to break most of them down into little parts just to dry them so they don't rust
but that goes for all sorts of meat grinders, not just electric attachments. The crank ones I have are a real bitch, only industrial ones are designed worth a damn, they have blades that can be taken out individually

>>13173048
it doesnt even do the rolling for you like a sheet extruder does, you still need to use a rolling pin

>>13173097
>>13173181
specialty flours are a good use case for it
grinding your own grain isn't the worst thing, if you stick to doing it
don't need to wash the attachment each time you use it as long as you're not doing a greasy nut flour or something
personally I don't have much desire to do it, but if happen to go through a lot of corn meal, it becomes a real option
dried corn whether meant for animal feed or simply popcorn is cheaper than corn flour by weight
a 50lb bag is like 40 bucks

[Anonymous No.13173201]

>>13173181
you can find wheat berries in health food stores

yes, the grains are called berries idk why either

[Anonymous No.13173211]

>>13173181
I'm not in America, but from what I've heard if you're in America it's probably at Whole Foods. If not, look for one of those places that specialise in selling bulk whole grains out of plastic containers. Quite a few have arisen in Australia over the past five years, and we're usually behind the ball on this kind of trend.

[Anonymous No.13173708]

>>13173107
Manufacturers don't have enough staff to be fucked selling to individuals so they're letting you know. Get fucked, buy from a retailer. If you do call there are ways to trick/annoy them enough to get it cheap.

[Anonymous No.13173710]

>>13173108
I want to be your friend. I imagine you gift some of these things to friends

[Anonymous No.13173728]

>>13173710
Absolutely. I always end up with more venison than I can freeze and I have a big bbq at my house for family and whoever else wants to come about once a month

[Anonymous No.13174199]

>>13173708
>getting lower prices
explain

[Anonymous No.13174811]

>>13172872
I'm thinking of getting one. I make bread every other weekend and I'd like to get a grinder attachment so I can make my own sausage. I think it'd be wortth it.

[Anonymous No.13174837]

>>13172872
They’re great. I use mine several times a week

Make sure to get the pro model and not the artisan

[Anonymous No.13175077]

>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
YOU CAN'T USE A KITCHEN APPLIANCE MORE THAN ONCE A MONTH. HOW DARE YOU COOK AND ACTUALLY HAVE A NEED FOR ONE OF THESE.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO COOKING IS FOR LOSERS

[Anonymous No.13175475]

i got the 8qt commercial mixer because i bake so much.

>>13173107
are you sure the cheap ones aren't previously owned?

[Anonymous No.13176783]

>>13172872
I'm also curious as to how good they are. I actually used my mums to make hot cross buns, it was struggling pretty hard by the end of the session.

[Anonymous No.13176796]

>>13176783
You’re only supposed to knead dough on speed setting 2. Going higher can fuck it up

[Anonymous No.13176811]

>My kitchenaid/hobart/""pro mixer"" can't stand up to tough dough

I don't understand why you'd spend the money on a kid's toy when you get a Grizzly G0704, chuck up your whisk or beaters, and put a spindexer under your bowl.

[Anonymous No.13176812]

>Doing a lot of baking
>Tell mom I'm saving up for a 8 qt kitchenaid
>Christmas comes around
>"Look Anon! It's the mixer you said you wanted!"
>It's the dinky 3 qt mixer

[Anonymous No.13176890]

>>13172872
Professional chef here. These are worth their weight in gold.

[Anonymous No.13177553]

>>13175475
I wouldn't have said new if they weren't. If you look around, there are places that are selling them for far less than KitchenAid themselves. Walmart has them for decent prices if you wait.

[Anonymous No.13177690]

>>13177553
I got a refurbished artisan on eBay for like 180 ish with free shipping.

[Anonymous No.13178133]

>>13176812
you don't deserve your mother
goddamn ungrateful little shit

[Anonymous No.13178146]

>>13178133
Having to settle for an inferior piece of equipment because somebody generously gifted you something worse than what you were going to get yourself is the worst feeling. You can't act ungrateful and replace it, but you will always be dissatisfied.

[Anonymous No.13178320]

>>13176890
>time to clean the fucker
>carry it into the dish room
>heavy as fuck
>oh, there's a sticker on the underside
>"don't run for more than 5 min continuously"
>mfw we run it for hours continuously making mayo

[Anonymous No.13178468]

I use one daily for at work
only cake mix and cookie dough really
works pretty well

[Anonymous No.13178478]

>>13172906
>>13172882

Just got one as a wedding gift.

[Anonymous No.13178489]

>>13178320
but you don't really run it continously, do you, you fucking retard, you stop it every so often to empty it and restart the mayo mix. Fucking moron

[Anonymous No.13178519]

>>13178320
Mayonnaise people are so disgusting.

[Anonymous No.13178722]

>>13172872
I use mine like 2 times a week, OP. Maybe you should make another fast food thread instead?

[Anonymous No.13178788]

>>13178146
>Hey Mom, that was a great gift! But I needed a larger model to accommodate what I want to do with it. If you could get me the receipt I'll go and swap it for the larger one, I just dont want to have two of the same appliance!
There, now you can take your passive aggressive bullshit and go fuck yourself with it you piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.13178838]

>>13172872
I use a Kenwood Kmix almost daily for bread. Luv it! simple as

[Anonymous No.13178851]

I'd use mine more but there's always someone sleeping or taking a nap
Shit's loud as fuck so I'm often just making stuff by hand

[Anonymous No.13178881]

>>13176811
BRB setting up my cnc mill at work to make bread.

[Anonymous No.13178882]

>implying i don't use mine every week

[Anonymous No.13179058]

>>13176811
The belts and gears will break on that cheap Chinese piece of crap before you can even mix a loaf of bread.
For years of reliable service stick with haas. Years of reliable service, first class internals, and a fully integrated splash guard.

[Anonymous No.13180483]

>>13173032
One advantage with the older machines is that the gears have been rubbing against each other for years,
The rubbing polishes the gear surfaces, and causes the gears to mate better, lowering friction
And making the older mixers smoother and quieter.
And increasing the drive efficiency.
Technically, you could puchase a new mixer and use lapping compound to lap the gears together, but it would be a pain to do.

[Anonymous No.13180500]

My Artisan was $220 and I don't regret purchasing it. They work great for shredding meat.

[Anonymous No.13180507]

>>13172872
I use mine all the time. Bake more cakes and cookies man

[Anonymous No.13180516]

>>13173107
Manufacters usually have a set “suggested retail” price.
Stores then discount from the “suggested retail” price so it looks like the customer is gettinf a discount on the item.
Most major chains are pretty similar in price nowadays, but the stores want to show a discount of the fake “normal retail” price.
If the manufacturer sells the item at the regular street price on their website, it undermines the “suggested retail” price.
Basically, manufacturers websites should only be used to purchase accessories and attachments stores don’t want to bother stocking.

[Anonymous No.13180537]

I'm looking for a very large (~20qt) mixer that I can put on my counter (so no floor standing), any ideas where I can find one?

[Anonymous No.13180884]

>>13180537
Either shorten your countertop or remove your cabinetry, you're not going to find a commercial size mixer that will fit on a regular domestic countertop

[Anonymous No.13180934]

>>13180884
>he thinks 20qt is commercial size
Step up your cooking game. There are countertop 20qt mixers, I'm looking for good ones.

[Anonymous No.13180944]

>>13180934
The good ones are commercial.

[Anonymous No.13181145]

>>13172872
>use Kitchenaid mixer once or twice then it collects dust
I wonder if there's a rental market for such things?

[Anonymous No.13181880]

>>13172872
Can confirm, these are based. Use mine weekly

[Anonymous No.13181919]

>>13172872
these bad boys are on sale for 230 at target

[Anonymous No.13182052]

>>13178838
The Kenwood Kitchen Kmixer.
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[Anonymous No.13182235]

Step aside pussies 60qt comin thru