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/beer/ general Anonymous Sat Oct 19 22:32:56 2019 No.13089622 [Reply] [Original]

What are you guys drinking tonight? Anything new? I'm been drinking one of my favorites tonight, pic related. I might go for some Oktoberfest after I'm done with this one.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 00:33:50 2019 No.13090032 File: 462 KB, 800x550, bottle_family__0000_wrought-iron-ipa-2__slide.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13089622 this is what I'm drinking

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 00:42:32 2019 No.13090057 New Belgium's voodoo ranger IPA Like every night cause I'm a hopeless alcoholic who needs high percentage beer to fall asleep.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 00:44:04 2019 No.13090060 >>13089622 Golden monkey is my go-to beer. Sour ain't bad either

Anonymous Sun Oct 20 01:01:39 2019 No.13090114

>>13090060
I tried Golden but wasn't super fond of it. I like sours, so Sour Monkey was obviously a good one for me. Victory's pilsner is okay.
>>13090032
>>13090057
I've had a few IPAs, including some from local craft brewers, and I have yet to really get into them. Any in particular to recommend? I've heard Bell's IPA is pretty good, and obviously New Belgium can make a good beer. I just kinda feel like once I get a few IPAs that I like, I can really get into them. Right now it just feels like adding some unnecessary bitterness.
Right now I am drinking pic related. It's pretty good. These guys tend to make smooth beers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 01:02:29 2019 No.13090117 >>13090114 bell's is good, so is Sweetwater's grassmonkey IPA

Anonymous Sun Oct 20 01:09:10 2019 No.13090132

>>13090117
And when you say that, it's still good bottled, right? Tap is usually better, but it's still good bottled, right? I just really want to give it a fair go.
Now that I think about it though, I only liked some stouts after drinking a few of them. Maybe next time I go to the grocer, I'll get some Bell's IPA. Is Founder's a bit better here? They tend to have some pretty good stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 01:19:34 2019 No.13090168 File: 362 KB, 426x480, original.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13090132 I misspoke, grassmonkey isn't an IPA but it's still really good...and it's only in a can Bell's is almost always in a glass bottle

Anonymous Sun Oct 20 01:41:09 2019 No.13090221
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I've had about $600 worth of old beer from my work over the summer working at a liquor store previously bought out. The old owners got this beer on credit but never did anything with it so it was either "throw it all away or give it all away". And seeing as I'm the in-house beer guy at work? Yep.

Here's an .mspaint of what I've been sipping on since this semester started. This accounts for about half of what I got to take home sice mid-Summer break and have drank (really the majority). A lot of the other beer was some old brewery shit - some of which came from breweries that weren't even around anymore, other of which I can't even bother remembering. I've got one bottle of the Brett and Noir, and just one can of the Dream, Molotov Lite, and Lowlife left.
>most of these are 22oz. bombers and pint cans.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 01:42:30 2019 No.13090226 >>13090168 Alright. I've had a few people recommend it, so next time I am at the store, I will get it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 01:44:53 2019 No.13090238 File: 36 KB, 332x355, 71ot0ZlH7cL._SY355_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13090226 here's another good one

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 01:47:59 2019 No.13090247 File: 384 KB, 1250x1199, Brooklyn-Black-Chocolate-Stout.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bought a 6 of this today. Pretty good, not superb but I'll give it a B+

Anonymous Sun Oct 20 02:11:08 2019 No.13090314
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>>13090238
>>13090168
>recommending mainstream beer that every entry-level 'craft' beer drinker has had and would never truly recommend to someone truly serious about drinking good, new beers
>>13090226
please, just try one or two bro- Bell's is known for their darker beers and seasonal beers - not their year-rounds.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 02:14:25 2019 No.13090333 File: 8 KB, 224x224, download.jpeg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Drinking this. It's way too easy to drink.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 02:15:05 2019 No.13090334 >>13090314 shutup nigger

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>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 02:29:26 2019 No.13090371 bud light coors light

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 02:33:12 2019 No.13090383 File: 463 KB, 3000x2000, blakes_black_phillip_blog_promo.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13089622 looked edgy so I bought it, not bad

Anonymous Sun Oct 20 02:34:19 2019 No.13090389
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I tried pick related yesterday and it was a bit disappointing but still nice.

It's the third beer of this style I've had after Nightmare On Brett and Mariner Lost at sea of Nogne O and the Norwegian one is the one I preferred. I'd like to see more of it but it's pretty rare

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 04:30:40 2019 No.13090625 >>13090389 Bruery is very hit and miss. Some of their stuff, such as oude tart, is awesome. Then other bottlings are just way too much booze, perhaps even infection issues, meh....

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 04:38:27 2019 No.13090639 >>13090625 It's my first beer of them, I'll try the oude tart if I see it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 05:08:52 2019 No.13090698 >>13090383 is it good? Is it as good as the movie?

Anonymous Sun Oct 20 05:17:17 2019 No.13090716
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>>13089622
I'm about to enjoy one of these after my Travis Bickle run last night... I'd prefer just about anything by Unibroue or Dieu du Ciel, but this will certainly do after a cold, shitty night.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 05:43:51 2019 No.13090770 >>13089622 I like Sour Monkey. Golden Monkey is good too. I really wanted to try White Monkey but its expensive and was bomber only.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 12:10:47 2019 No.13091863 File: 232 KB, 1280x1280, New Glarus Berliner Apfel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13089622

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 12:12:58 2019 No.13091869 File: 64 KB, 640x480, New Glarus Spotted Cow Grand Cru.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13091863 got a 4 pack of that and of this

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 17:05:37 2019 No.13093191 >>13090770 It's good stuff. >>13091863 A fellow Wisconsinite. Cool. Haven't had a chance to pick this up yet. How good is it? >>13091869 And is this really worth it or nah? I like New Glarus generally, but Spotted Cow is overrated.

Anonymous Sun Oct 20 17:25:53 2019 No.13093264

>>13093191
The Berliner Apfel is great, pretty light but flavorful, not as sour as some of their other spontaneously soured fruit beers

The Spotted Cow Grand Cru is also really good, especially if you like saisons, much more flavor than the regular spotted cow, its basically double spotted cow

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 17:29:39 2019 No.13093288 >>13089622 Sebago Brewing Company, Frye's Leap IPA

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 18:40:34 2019 No.13093589 >>13089622 Founder's Underground Mountain

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>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 22:23:07 2019 No.13094678 >>13089622 How do I make good beer/mead with a high APV, or how do I buy bulk beer with a high APV. Please dont say kegs because there are none around me and I dont have the money.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 22:32:50 2019 No.13094713 >>13094678 What do you mean by bulk beer but not kegs? What other bulk format is there? Making high ABV beer is just like making any other beer, it just requires more malt to start with, and a bit more time to ferment

Anonymous Sun Oct 20 22:40:47 2019 No.13094745
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These

>>13090168
Two Hearted is my favorite mainstream IPA (or APA I guess). Oarsman and Oberon are my favorite Bell's, though.

>>13091863
>>13091869
Wisconsin represent. I've only had Two Women and Spotted Cow, the former of which was disappointing and the latter good but overrated.

>>	Anonymous Sun Oct 20 22:52:30 2019 No.13094796 Hop Valley Alpha Centauri. Not my favorite, but it's what the store had.

Anonymous Sun Oct 20 23:11:35 2019 No.13094870

>>13094621
Even not trying to shit on IPAs, this is a bit sad. Come on, how about some variety.
>>13094745
I honestly like Two Women better iirc, though I honestly don't drink New Glarus too much outside of their fruity beers. I should probably grab some more of their beers again soon.
How do you feel about Lakefront Brewery and MKE?

Anonymous Sun Oct 20 23:47:23 2019 No.13095030

>>13094870
Lakefront is cool, all of their classic stuff is solid, their IPAs are good but nothing special. The brewery itself is a really cool venue. Their Black Friday special release stuff is excellent, glad to see they are expanding that this year.

MKE is meh, none of their stuff really impressed me, they have always seemed a bit behind the curve and basically all of the newer breweries in the city are better
I would rank Milwaukee Area breweries as
1. Eagle Park
2. 1840
3. Vennture
4. Third Space
5. Good City
5. Black Husky
6. Hacienda
7. Raised Grain
8. Explorium
9. Fermentorium
10. Company Brewing
11. Lakefront
12. Component
13. Gathering Place
14. Sahale
15. Bavarian Bierhaus
16. Urban Harvest
17. Mobcraft
18. City Lights
19. Sprecher
20. Enlightened
21. Broken Bat
22. MKE
23. Water Street
24. Miller I guess counts

(haven't tried Stock House, Big Head, Westallion, Rebellion so didn't include those, probably forgetting some things too)

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 00:03:29 2019 No.13095092 >>13094745 Based Hammschad

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>OMG ALCOHOL!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 00:42:48 2019 No.13095242 >>13094713 >What do you mean by bulk beer but not kegs? Like the tall boy cans you see for a dollar.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 00:43:24 2019 No.13095245 >>13095135 Holy shit retard, fuck off. What's it like to be a nigger faggot?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 00:47:04 2019 No.13095257 File: 32 KB, 480x480, 1565629002063.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13095245 >Holy shit retard, fuck off. What's it like to be a nigger faggot?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 00:48:13 2019 No.13095258 >13095135 OMG insecurity!

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 00:48:53 2019 No.13095261 >>13095258 Missed an arrow there, slowfren

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 00:53:55 2019 No.13095285 File: 10 KB, 251x242, 156542369872.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >13095261 oh no no no no

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 01:09:24 2019 No.13095326 >>13095257 So you're just gonna repeat me like a child. And then call me a virgin? Really busting out the big boy insults are we. Go be a faggot on reddit

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 01:09:55 2019 No.13095330 >>13095285 Click on the numbers, new faggot.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 01:16:35 2019 No.13095362 >>13094870 I would love some variety too, someone showed me this awesome brewery they were excited about: all IPAs and desert stouts. I like IPAs and stouts, but I would kill for a nice dunkel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 01:24:08 2019 No.13095405 >13095330 >13095261 He's not giving easy (You)s

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 01:27:52 2019 No.13095422 >>13095326 Absolutely seething. Alcoholics take the cheapest bait

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 02:21:26 2019 No.13095563 >>13090383 Fuck i tried that last year and almost forgot about it. Everything Blake's makes is delicious

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 02:30:34 2019 No.13095582 >>13090625 Used to love them, especially oude tart w/ cherries. Hit or miss is really the only way to describe them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 03:29:26 2019 No.13095736 @13095330 >he still doesn't get it ohnononoNONONO

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 04:47:00 2019 No.13095875 File: 143 KB, 752x649, Anchor-Christmas-Ale-6-pack-BeerPulse.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My GF and I polished off a 6 pack and talked about the New World Order

Anonymous Mon Oct 21 06:47:59 2019 No.13096108

>>13094678

A good high abv mead is different from a high abv beer.

Good high abv mead is all about the yeast and keeping it healthy with the right nutrient additions. I turned around a 1200+ sg blackberry melomel in 2 months with good nutrient additions and oxygen additions.

Traditional mead will take about 9 months to age and drop clear. Not really worth it if you make it sweet either.

All in all, you need a super healthy and happy fermentation which is all about the nutrition of the yeast.

Beer, it is slightly different because you have to make the wort that high in the first place. You should should shoot for an og of about 1120-1140 and then use a yeast that will ferment down to 1020 - 1040. Obviously you will need a lot of ibus, roast character, or acidity to keep a beer like that drinkable and not be a syrupy mess.

If you are on the /ck/ beer discord then I could probably talk to you more about this.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 11:54:22 2019 No.13097100 Bump

Anonymous Mon Oct 21 12:26:19 2019 No.13097214
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Went up north and tried this stuff. The reviews are mediocre, but I honestly thought this was a nice callback ipa. High abv, piney, well balanced. Got through 4 of them in a night and watched the yankees lose. Went to bed feelin solid

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 12:32:15 2019 No.13097240 File: 218 KB, 1010x500, guin.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >beer thread filled with colorful zoomer trash

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 12:36:21 2019 No.13097258 File: 111 KB, 840x970, 1568077490516.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13097240 >posting Guinness's worst beer while criticizing others beer choice

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 12:51:07 2019 No.13097319 File: 275 KB, 1500x1500, 2019_pog_overview.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Had a pint of this at Jungle Jim's last weekend. It was amazing. Not usually a fan of the more fruity sours. Still, Sea Quench Ale is probably my GOAT beer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 12:54:20 2019 No.13097330 File: 105 KB, 920x710, yikes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13097240 >posting fucking guinness in a beer thread as though he has taste

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 12:56:57 2019 No.13097338 File: 77 KB, 645x729, 1559940127208.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13095135 >goes into beer thread >"OMG ALCOHOL!"

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 12:57:56 2019 No.13097345 @13095135 Cribge

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 12:58:44 2019 No.13097351 >>13097258 is that you in the image

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 14:08:31 2019 No.13097608 >>13097351 No its ur dad

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 14:41:44 2019 No.13097767 File: 15 KB, 262x192, images (4).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone have some good märzen or other Oktoberfest type beer they would want to recommend?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 14:44:22 2019 No.13097782 File: 194 KB, 1440x1440, 1569492818606.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] itt

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 15:07:36 2019 No.13097863 What's a good bear to get into? I've tried all the "popular" name brands and they all taste like piss.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 15:36:19 2019 No.13097973 >>13097863 >popular brands Like what? Where they ales or lagers?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 15:36:38 2019 No.13097976 >>13097863 guinness

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 15:38:47 2019 No.13097984 File: 268 KB, 800x800, 1558487240928.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13097976

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 15:42:36 2019 No.13098005 File: 79 KB, 604x800, 1556627903634.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13097984 drink this and fuck off kid

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 15:46:28 2019 No.13098030 >>13098005 Are you trolling or do you honestly believe that recommending Guinness and thinking that represents a mature, informed palate and any sort of awareness of current beer makes you more of an adult than people who are actually into beer?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 15:47:30 2019 No.13098038 >>13097973 >>13097976 I've tried Guinness, bud light, budweisser, coor's light, Tecate, PBR, Corona, Miller light, heineken, etc etc they all taste like piss or shitty flint water

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 15:47:51 2019 No.13098042 >>13097976 meme drink. I'm guessing you just turned 21

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 15:49:43 2019 No.13098048 File: 55 KB, 650x650, 02219_149.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13089622 This stuff tastes like glue. Disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 15:49:54 2019 No.13098049 File: 139 KB, 640x640, 76926329-A126-4C7A-AC08-761D6AF3F206.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >be me >mainly like bitter stouts >can’t stand most light beer >sip on pic related and fall in love Call me a faggot I don’t care, it’s great.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 15:59:18 2019 No.13098094 File: 31 KB, 720x539, 1567448672379.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13098042 >>13098030 >delicious stout BAD!! >colorful stickers GOOD!!! children you shouldn't be drinking yet

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 16:00:31 2019 No.13098100 >>13098094 Yawn. This is just lazy, come up with something better

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 16:02:04 2019 No.13098109 >>13090057 definitely one of the best 'bang for your buck' high alcohol beers that don't project "I'M AN ALCOHOLIC" like buying cheap liquor that being said, you need to cut that shit out you'll feel a hell of a lot better if you stop drinking so much

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 16:02:12 2019 No.13098112 File: 97 KB, 420x561, alesmith-speedway-stout.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13098094 >delicious stout BAD!! Whom are you quoting?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 16:03:00 2019 No.13098119 >>13098100 this thread is filled with faggy craft beer that nobody besides 500 people in that small shitty redneck part of the USA drink. Are you stupid?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 16:04:00 2019 No.13098121 >>13098112 Fuck me I need this beer again

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 16:06:03 2019 No.13098131 >>13098094 Guinness is like the bud lite of stouts in my opinion. I've never been as disappointed as I was when I first tried it on draft. It tastes like vaguely stout flavored air. No body whatsoever. Extra stout is okay though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 16:07:00 2019 No.13098134 >>13098121 I've had 4 or 5 of the different variations and would highly recommend the Vietnamese coffee one - if you can find it. The absurdity of someone trying to recommend Guinness in 2019 is almost sad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 16:10:07 2019 No.13098146 >>13098119 What does that have to do with the post you quoted? Seethe harder bitch nigga lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 16:14:55 2019 No.13098175 >>13098146 please stop cursing you're too young

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 17:10:43 2019 No.13098458 >>13098134 Going to need to try that, thanks for the rec. honestly didn’t know there were variations

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 19:21:45 2019 No.13098967 File: 278 KB, 1200x1600, siberian-night.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Looking for stout recs. Pic related is my favorite, but I'm not picky at all

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 19:41:11 2019 No.13099061 >>13098119 lol, what are you talking about? Everyone has access to craft beer, its super common and likely outsells macros for white millennial men (AKA most people here)

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>>13098112
I bought the thai one since it was for sale (still expensive though, 27 euros). not gonna drink it in less than one or two years though. speaking thai style stouts, I encourage anyone geeting their hands on pic related to get it

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>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 20:06:56 2019 No.13099196 >>13089622 84 days sober. That was my drink of choice. Why must I be such a degenerate?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 20:07:52 2019 No.13099199 >>13099196 If you're 84 days sober I'd say you're doing pretty good, bud.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 20:11:59 2019 No.13099213 >>13099199 thanks man

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 20:17:39 2019 No.13099231 >>13098038 I think most people would agree that Sierra Nevada Pale Ale is a good introduction to more flavorful beers. Try that and report back to us.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 20:20:32 2019 No.13099240 File: 31 KB, 184x600, StruisePannepotSpecialReservaBA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gonna drink me one of these when i get home from work.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 21:11:36 2019 No.13099436 op that shit is straight acid

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 21:17:09 2019 No.13099459 File: 221 KB, 1080x1080, ass.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Some of the good good

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 22:34:42 2019 No.13099780 I knock back too many beers on a saturday with the bros. Should I switch to hard seltzers to help a bit with the calories?

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 22:39:25 2019 No.13099800 >>13099780 Are you drinking imperial stouts? If you are drinking lighter beer hard seltzer doesn't have that many fewer calories

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 22:57:43 2019 No.13099878 What type of glass should I have? I've been drinking from the bottle since ever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 22:59:56 2019 No.13099887 >>13099878 I go pint glass for almost everything. I have one tulip I got for free that I use for nice stouts or just more expensive stuff in general

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 23:44:04 2019 No.13100066 File: 2.58 MB, 1897x2138, 20191021_234523.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13089622 Probably not the ghost but looking like some belgian shit.

>>	Anonymous Mon Oct 21 23:48:37 2019 No.13100092 File: 171 KB, 310x310, founders-main-image.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13089622 Man I have to say it, those Spaniards have really improved the place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 00:19:18 2019 No.13100226 File: 13 KB, 400x600, ci-guinness-foreign-extra-stout-a3f29d0d3eaf6471.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13097240 At least post the good one.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 00:20:59 2019 No.13100230 13097782 >look ma, I posted it again!

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 00:22:06 2019 No.13100236 File: 321 KB, 270x1002, CBC6572F-7A67-4F5F-94E8-E362F7480792.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I’m enjoying the high life, about 3 deep right now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 00:22:17 2019 No.13100237 >>13097863 Try Sierra Nevada Pale Ale.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 00:25:59 2019 No.13100245 >>13100237 100% this. It's been my, "you think you don't like beer?" suggestion for almost 2 decades.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 01:00:18 2019 No.13100376 >>13099240 I had a 2010 version the other day in Milan, was very nice. Shame we can't find them in Norway >>13100066 based lambic drinker

Anonymous Tue Oct 22 01:52:08 2019 No.13100534
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>>13090247
I had really high expectations for that one and it didn't live up to them. I didn't realize it was 10% though until just now. Bells makes some kick ass stouts if that's what you're in to.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 05:00:58 2019 No.13101010 >>13100226 This. The extra stout versions are the only good ones. The draft ones are too watery.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 09:03:05 2019 No.13101514 Bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 10:36:36 2019 No.13101756 File: 142 KB, 426x426, IPA11.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] this is probably the best one since IPA no 5

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 10:37:39 2019 No.13101761 File: 435 KB, 912x512, Screen-Shot-2019-10-21-at-4.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13101756 also leafgang ready for friday?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 10:40:59 2019 No.13101776 >>13097767 Pauliner is the classic. I'm biased but I also love North High Brewing's Marzen

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 11:35:12 2019 No.13101963 >>13089622 >>13090114 I drink pils prima and storm king from victory. Currently sober October but with the chill coming in I'm thinking I might get shit faced with that storm king and cook a stew November first

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 12:21:54 2019 No.13102124 File: 354 KB, 1512x1512, 2019-10-22-12-10-14_compress44.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13101776 I've put what you mentioned on my list. Got this at the store for now.

Anonymous Tue Oct 22 13:25:50 2019 No.13102409

Why is the American outlook/attitude about beer so terrible? You have a whole bunch of shitty piss lagers which people pushed back with by pumping out equally shitty piss ales.

What gives?

Can't any big corporations figure out how to make a good ale? Haven't any craft guys figured how to make a flavorful lager?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 13:28:04 2019 No.13102421 >>13095875 they're already selling that now? The one I had two years ago was good but last years tasted awful imo

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 13:28:16 2019 No.13102422 >>13102409 Who gives a shit about the big corporations? Craft brewers are making the best versions of everything.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 14:07:54 2019 No.13102625 >>13102409 Why if it isn't the euro fuck who knows nothing about the beer industry making his appearance. Fuck off back to whatever irrelevant shit hole you call home.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 14:13:36 2019 No.13102652 File: 52 KB, 646x749, yasscraftbeer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] itt

Anonymous Tue Oct 22 14:32:03 2019 No.13102725
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Can anybody help me find more beer like pic related? It's my favorite beer. I like strong, bitter stouts like this. I've already founders stuff so don't bother with that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 14:37:58 2019 No.13102741 >>13102725 Sorry I posted without reading the thread. I'll look into these >>13098112 >>13098967 >>13097319 Based jungle jims

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 14:44:42 2019 No.13102757 >>13102741 Try yeti stout if you can find it from great divide

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 16:03:14 2019 No.13103032 File: 143 KB, 490x686, 11589773492254.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13099231 >>13100237 >>13100245 So get a 6pack of this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 16:28:09 2019 No.13103112 File: 1.03 MB, 1500x2000, 1f835d9eb22e1321017db3e21323a804_raw.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Anyone tried pic? Had it the other day, super sour and delicious. What are some other really really sour beers?

Anonymous Tue Oct 22 17:28:12 2019 No.13103331

>>13102409
>shitty piss lagers
This is the semantics problem that never goes away. Bud and Coors aren't beers, they're straight up handily packaged drugs. The low ABV means plenty of water to keep you hydrated, with a splash of carbs and protein to slow down the alcohol absorption enough to be pleasant instead of just inebriating.
Coors even has a bespoke can design that makes a delightful opening sound.

The only relation to other lagers is the temperature the yeast require to get busy. They are different products.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 18:30:25 2019 No.13103553 File: 39 KB, 250x726, sierra nevada pale ale.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13089622 >What are you guys drinking tonight? Sipping a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, though usually I go with Bells Two Hearted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 18:34:40 2019 No.13103570 File: 191 KB, 683x1024, iron maiden beer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Got this Iron Maiden beer a couple of years back for a steelhead fishing trip and it was good, though it cost $7.00 for a four-pack.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 18:37:12 2019 No.13103581 File: 371 KB, 1920x1080, BELLS-BEER-BOTTLES.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13098038 Two Hearted and Best Brown are great.

Anonymous Tue Oct 22 18:41:47 2019 No.13103597
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I moved to Dublin from Barcelona a couple months ago and so far I've found Smithwicks Blonde Ale to be one of my favorite local beers, enjoying one right now. I miss some of the import stuff I could find in Barcelona. And I miss Montseny beers, definitely my favorite stuff to drink back home.

If there are any dubliners here, what other brews do you recommend that I can find easily? I'm open to anything, but I'm not the biggest fan of stouts and porters.

Anonymous Tue Oct 22 18:44:58 2019 No.13103611
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>>13103597
I've also been dying to find something like this ever since I had one in Iceland. I've tried some double IPAs since but nothing as aromatic and intense as that thing. It was like getting slapped in the face by a metric ton of hops.

On the topic of beer in Dublin, how come most stuff is so low in alcohol? In Spain the standard for most commercial/mainstream beers is 5-5.5%, here it's like almost everything is 4%

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 18:51:03 2019 No.13103643 File: 47 KB, 600x450, Dharma beer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 18:53:33 2019 No.13103650 Been on a stout kick lately so I picked up some deschutes obsidian on my way home from work

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 18:55:02 2019 No.13103657 >>13103643 Nice

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 18:55:41 2019 No.13103660 >>13103570 I have one of those in my fridge, how is it for 2 years? Not a style of beer that's generally aged, so I'm curious.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 18:56:04 2019 No.13103663 >>13102725 Bells Kalamazoo stout

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 18:58:43 2019 No.13103674 >>13102725 Honestly, most coffee stouts will fit that bill. Just go to a beer rating site and check out what some of the higher rated coffee stouts are.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 19:11:02 2019 No.13103727 >>13103674 All of the new coffee stouts are sweetened garbage

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 19:18:53 2019 No.13103767 File: 67 KB, 490x686, 8802712813598.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13102725 Been a while since I had it, but remember it having some bite.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 19:48:06 2019 No.13103958 >>13090168 I can get almost ant Bells beer in a can. Maybe because I live 45 Mike's away.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 20:23:28 2019 No.13104180 >>13103650 >work lmao

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 20:54:24 2019 No.13104340 >>13090221 Lu/ck/y bastard

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 21:16:34 2019 No.13104465 File: 19 KB, 400x368, cerveza-martens-gold-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] My local store just got this and the are ok. Belgium explain yourselves

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 21:49:51 2019 No.13104634 >>13100236 based and cornpilled

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 21:52:18 2019 No.13104645 >>13100236 Based, I hate normal Miller but man, I can drink high life's for hours

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:21:36 2019 No.13104771 >>13103958 Bells does not can anything remotely close to their full production. Faggot.

Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:47:27 2019 No.13104892

>>13102409
North American generics can be nice in a certain setting. Like just when you come home from a hard day of work and you want to drink a cold one. I'm not gonna open a trappist or trippel. I wanna gobble down an easy beer. God i wish i could buy Kokanee here.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:52:33 2019 No.13104913 >>13104465 Had to look this up. It appears to be from the east part of Flanders( im from the West). Never heard of it, never drank it. Looks like your average belgian pilsner.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 22:54:57 2019 No.13104925 File: 63 KB, 640x640, blasphemy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] One of my favorite quadrupels. So good.

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 23:22:59 2019 No.13105076 >>13102409 this is such a dumb take

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 23:24:02 2019 No.13105079 >>13104892 a nice APA is better than a light lager in literally every situation

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 23:33:35 2019 No.13105125 >>13103032 yes

>>	Anonymous Tue Oct 22 23:35:02 2019 No.13105132 >>13090221 Lowlife is fucking great beer

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 03:46:29 2019 No.13105891 Hump

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 04:52:46 2019 No.13106049 >>13097767 Weihenstephaner and Sierra Nevada both have decent ones this year.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 05:04:27 2019 No.13106081 File: 52 KB, 646x749, yasscraftbeer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] itt

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 07:39:24 2019 No.13106355 File: 1.98 MB, 320x180, tenor (1).gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13106081 O B S E S S E D B S E S S E D

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 09:20:49 2019 No.13106612 File: 96 KB, 600x600, Kuhnhenn Brewing-01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If you’re ever in Warren MI, stop by Kuhnhenns brew pub.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 09:24:34 2019 No.13106626 Are lagers objectively better than ales, considering that they basically bulldozed ale brewing almost everywhere they were introduced?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 10:07:21 2019 No.13106738 >>13106049 Added them to the list, thank you.

Anonymous Wed Oct 23 10:31:58 2019 No.13106798
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This one is my favorite right now but i can only get it when i'm sober enough to drive to the city.
Otherwise at my little village i only have the 8.6 red hobo beer.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 12:09:48 2019 No.13107149 https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191021183303.htm

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 14:24:13 2019 No.13107719 >>13103611 Its so you can drink more beer

Anonymous Wed Oct 23 16:38:55 2019 No.13108334

>>13094870
Former resident to give my take, most of New Glarus is shit and they don't make anything new that's good either. I'd put Lakefront above MKE simply because quality > quantity. Also the Lakefront Brewery is a fun place to go just for dinner, use to go with friends a lot for dinners and brews. Great place.
MKE has a big selection but I never really loved anything they had other than Louie's and Plowed In. MKE IPA is ok but it's all the branding design that makes MKE what they are, the beer for the most part is average for what they should be. Their new location was nice to go to but I moved shortly after they got it, I went about 3 times. Glad I copped a pink glass they had at their shop.
>>13095030
Wow imagine my face seeing this, love Milwaukee beers. Third Space/Good City are absolute top tier, Eagle Park is great too so I dig that. Lakefront near the middle is about right. Black Husky being high is good too.
Mobcraft and City Lights being at the bottom is good taste too, Mobcraft was just incredibly overrated because of their location and City Lights as well, loved their lounge area but their beer wasn't anything special. I have their glass too but only because I found it to be interestingly shaped.
What's your take on Central Waters? I figure it'll be strong one way or another, they're incredibly hit and miss for me (good red stuff, shit everything else)

Anonymous Wed Oct 23 16:41:57 2019 No.13108347
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Moved to Virginia and started drinking Devil's Backbone before I realized it was the MKE of Milwaukee but more expensive. I started drinking pic related or Fat Tire when I need an amber. Anyone know of good ambers I can get around the Roanoke area by chance?

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 19:43:22 2019 No.13109160 File: 2.38 MB, 2645x1673, 20191023_194337.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13106612 Metro hell hole with a good brewery. >>13103958 Sure you CAN... nigger

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 19:45:15 2019 No.13109172 >>13108334 Central waters is great and you suck

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 20:54:53 2019 No.13109493 File: 2.51 MB, 4032x3024, 2B064B2C-C609-4B6F-B873-62FCD1EDB082.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Fuck me this shit is so god damn delicious

Anonymous Wed Oct 23 23:29:20 2019 No.13110067

>>13106626
no, pretty much everyone agrees that almost all of the best beers in the world are ales

There is a lot of fucking argument about the very best beer but pretty much everyone falls into one of four camps, barrel aged imperial stouts (ales), Belgian Trappists (ales), spontaneously fermented sours (wild yeast, ale yeast and bacteria), Haze bomb IPAs (ale)

I personally like all of those, I like I have many examples in each of those styles that I would easily consider better than the best lager I have had.

Your reference to lagers having " basically bulldozed ale brewing almost everywhere they were introduced" puts lagers more in line with McDonalds, they fucking dominate sales and are endlessly copied in uninteresting and cheap ways but you would be hard pressed to find many people claiming McDonalds is the best food in the world

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 23:29:55 2019 No.13110068 >>13109172 Maybe I shouldn't have said shit everything else, there's some things I like but nothing that truly stands out/would call great. Why do I suck?

Anonymous Wed Oct 23 23:36:15 2019 No.13110090

>>13108334
>What's your take on Central Waters
I love Central Waters.
Had a friend pick me up a few bottles of their 3 year barrel aged barleywine at the brewery the other day and am very much looking forward to opining one of those up. Now their 6 pack classic stuff is mostly mediocre, they didn't even make a solid IPA until a few years ago, but their barrel aged stuff, of which there is a great variety, is basically all great, especially given their very reasonable prices. Their Black Gold may very well be the best beer I have ever had. Also I have generally liked their recent attempts at more modern IPA hazy/milkshake IPAs.

Now I just have to make the drive up to their brewery sometime, hopefully for an anniversary party or Black Gold release

Anonymous Wed Oct 23 23:46:06 2019 No.13110123

>>13110067
Lagers bulldozed ales pre prohibition and then controlled the market for the next 90+ years. The reason that macro brewers returned to lager production and then refined the recipes to todays ultralight macro lagers is that they where the preferred taste of their era, which ment that when the factories reopened it was a race back into production of the most popular style, a light, easy to drink beer that appealed to the most customers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 23:49:18 2019 No.13110133 File: 37 KB, 300x450, tap-handles.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13110068 Probably the best barrel program in the country. >why do I suck? Shit taste.

>>	Anonymous Wed Oct 23 23:53:12 2019 No.13110144 >>13110123 Yeah, lagers are like McDonalds or Starbucks, extremely popular when it comes to sales, but no one really thinks they are the best at making their product, just good and making money and being convenient

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 00:06:31 2019 No.13110194
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>>13110144
You are equating the style to the modern american macro interpretation. Lager is technical to make (doubly so to make quickly) because the cold fermentation by definition takes longer. Craft lager tends to be shit and competes against cheaper arguably more refined product which has limited availability to "craft beer consumers". Ask a brewer, lagers are in the vogue right now. You are equating the french fry to McDonalds exclusively because you have never seen one on a menu else where. Eat at better restaurants.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 03:00:20 2019 No.13110685 Can I buy anything in America that will match the fucking majesty of Guinness on tap in Ireland

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 04:07:38 2019 No.13110829 >>13110144 >being convenient In no way is actual lager production more convenient than ale. The fact that it was discovered quite late in the game should be enough to inform this

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 04:30:33 2019 No.13110862 >>13110685 Yeah, Smithwicks you plastic paddy memer.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 04:37:02 2019 No.13110877 >got a whole box of Belgian beer in the mail yesterday >Kerel Saison, Val-Dieu Blond, Achel Extra Blond, Oud Zottegems Bier, Préaris Quadrocinno and Alvinne Mano Negra >can't drink for another 2 weeks because a recent hospital stay Fuck me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 04:42:10 2019 No.13110889 >>13110877 all the sweeter

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 04:43:18 2019 No.13110893 >>13110685 Yeah any local stout will do

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 10:33:58 2019 No.13111603
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>>13109160
> Metro hell hole with a good brewery.

Not yet but with the changing “demographics” here in Warren, it eventually will be…

Also, Dragonmead has really good beer but they’re snooty and it’s not a cool place to hang out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 12:06:38 2019 No.13111897 >>13110133 What makes them the best barrel program in the country?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 16:27:12 2019 No.13112776 Bump

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 16:31:32 2019 No.13112791 File: 721 KB, 728x682, 1538692806290.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13104925 >Belgium style

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 17:22:44 2019 No.13112975 >>13089622 was just there the other weekend. got myself a growler. their beer fucks you right up.

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 19:26:31 2019 No.13113408

>>13110829
>In no way is actual lager production more convenient than ale
I was very clearly speaking from the point of view of the consumer.

A meal at McDonalds is a very complex concoction with dozens of ingredients sourced from around the world, but it is extremely cheap and convenient for the end user just like lagers in most countries

Making a flavorless lager is definitely more technically challenging than making a decent IPA, (but apparently marketing a flavorless lager is much, much easier, but thats another discussion) and the large lager breweries absolutely do a great job from a manufacturing and QA point of view, but that doesn't qualify the style as better tasting

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 19:28:06 2019 No.13113416 >>13109172 Their barrel series are all phenomenal and worth every penny. Their regular stuff is pretty mediocre

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 19:29:04 2019 No.13113422

>>13110194
>Ask a brewer, lagers are in the vogue right now
I mean kind of, yeah, craft lagers are more popular than ever, and many of them are very good. Its super easy to find excellent local lagers in both traditional styles and modern dry hopped varieties, but IPAs still dominate sales growth
>>13094621

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 19:34:51 2019 No.13113453
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>>13111897
not that guy, but this

Also more generally they have, I believe, the most disproportionate volume of beer being barrel aged of any craft brewery at least as of an article I read somewhere a couple years ago, and almost all of the stuff from it is great and yet reasonably priced. Excellent 4 packs of BA various strong stouts, barleywine, and quad for like $14 available at grocery stores, can't beat that

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 21:47:58 2019 No.13114003 File: 19 KB, 244x487, ayinger-celbrator-doppelbock.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13113408 check and mate for your flavorless lager argument faggot

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 21:49:00 2019 No.13114008 >>13113453 This. They make the spaniards in michigan look like pussys

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 21:50:38 2019 No.13114012 >>13089622 Drinking some sour monkey right now, I don't recall when I first tried a sour but I really like the taste, nice and tart.

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 21:56:45 2019 No.13114039

>>13114003
There are plenty of good lagers, its just than most of them are meh. This probably has a bit to do with the ambitions of those brewing these styles of beer than the inherent chemical properties of them

But honestly, I don't even think grouping beer as lager vs ale is that useful besides as a technical characteristic, there are good lagers and good ales and bad lagers and bad ales. I strongly tink most of the best beers are ales but there are also plenty of really good lagers. Meanwhile most of the worst or at least flavorful or good beers are lagers but this comes down more to a history of marketing than technical characteristics of lagers

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:01:08 2019 No.13114052 Did you guys here twitter canceled Founders because of racism?

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:04:57 2019 No.13114063 >>13114052 I didn't here that but I would be surprised to hear it. Especially since the account is active right now. Dip shit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:11:21 2019 No.13114093 >>13114063 oh, sorry you misunderstand. I was referring to the culture concept of cancelling where twitter users decide they don't like a thing and we should all stop associating with it. I did not mean Twitter the website canceled founders account

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:17:51 2019 No.13114123 >>13111897 Because they have consistent quality and quantity behind it

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:36:03 2019 No.13114237
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>>13114039
2 things here to respond to.

Your personal preferences do not make you an expert, and conceding points to agree with me does not make up for your lack of understanding on the topic. Speaking in hyperbole makes you sound like a jack ass and your inability to sense "lighter" flavors or to appreciate balance in a well made lager are a personal fault, not an issue with where the yeast like to live in the water column. If you want to live every moment at wakefest or in a line at monkish that's great, but don't shit on what has been a proven business model for the vast majority of beer drinkers and producers with any modicum of success.

>Meanwhile most of the worst or at least flavorful or good beers are lagers but this comes down more to a history of marketing than technical characteristics of lagers

what the fuck are you even trying to say here? If this stillborn excuse of a sentence is trying to convey what I think you are trying to say I would counter with the fact that once again, that the vast majority of craft beer made is ale, and no matter how much people hate to admit it a lot of it sucks. Even the best brewers squeak out garbage every once in a while and the question is whether or not they sell it to the customer. You are far more likely to get abject garbage sold from a small, cash strapped craft brewer who is fighting to stay out of the red than a company with a quality assurance initiative and a brand to protect.

The fact you have never had anything from Suarez is not an excuse for your narrow ass view of beer or your proselytizing. Try a few more beers and stop flinging shit about things you don't understand.

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:43:42 2019 No.13114281

>>13114237
>what the fuck are you even trying to say here?
Thats most mediocre lighter macro beers are lager because people who made lager were better at marketing, and its the nature of macro brewing rather than the nature of lagers to become less flavorful and less interesting over time because the more water you can put in the beer and less hops the less it costs to make

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:44:58 2019 No.13114287 File: 49 KB, 533x800, 1558319374200.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >switching to whisky soda to cut calories

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:46:29 2019 No.13114297

>>13114093
Oh, sorry you misunderstand my post. I did pickup your lame fucking /pol/ post about some shitty news story tangentially related to beer and was trying to point out that your 4th grade understanding of homonyms makes you look even more like an idiot than the content of your post. The GM of founders will lose his case because of his absolute stupidity in both his defense and business practices. He will lose Mahou san miguel a shit load of money and will be fired for it. Grand rapids is an ultra conservative city with a thin veneer of hipster spread over it and anyone who lives there has no question about the outcome of this. You can say nigger on 4chan but the moment you bring it into the work environment you start fucking with the protections under the law. Claiming you don't see race and cant agree that the 44th president is black during interviews with opposing council just serves to get this shit in the news and makes it harder to get another job when you eventually get canned.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:47:40 2019 No.13114300 >>13114281 So once again, the problem is with macro beer and not lager you fucking idiot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:47:44 2019 No.13114301 >>13114237 this is an absurdly hyperbolic response to that post by the way. You are consistently trying to make it sound like I was taking stance that I did not

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:51:23 2019 No.13114319

>>13114297
>I did pickup your lame fucking /pol/ post about some shitty news story tangentially related to beer
I was explicitly talking about how beer people are moving toward shaming stores out of carrying Founders because of Founders shitty racist dealings. I don't see how this is merely tangentially related, or has anything to do with /pol/

I honestly have not spent enough time with /pol/ to know whether they would be pro boycotting or pro racism, both seem very plausible

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:53:47 2019 No.13114333

>>13114300
thats literally what I have been saying, yet you somehow take me saying it as a sign I am bad yet you also agree?

Like my entire post was making that point yet you go sperging with this lengthy response >>13114237
were you ignore that that is exactly what I am saying and just start calling me an idiot for not saying all of the best beers in the world are lager or not patronizing your favorite little Suarez lager makers?

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:55:03 2019 No.13114336

>>13114301

>>13110067
>>13110144
>>13113408

I see a strong assertion made about a type of beer that you have consistently back pedaled when presented with evidence to the contrary. All of which is an issue because you don't know enough to refer to macro piss water as anything other than the type of yeast it uses and have a limited ability to appreciate things you are not familiar with. Welcome to craft beer, learn and grow, but for gods sake shut the fuck up.

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:57:36 2019 No.13114346

>>13114336
I have certainly had more different beers both lagers and ales than you because you apparently have some odd chip on your shoulder about lagers. You are literally agreeing with me but getting mad at me at the same time because you think I don't really agree with you? even though my line of reasoning has been constant throughout?

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 22:58:55 2019 No.13114353

>>13114237
While I agree that there are subtle flavours in pale lagers (which I assume you were talking about), you have to admit that there's less flavour dimensions to them than pale ales.

There doesn't have to be but that seems to be the trend at the moment at least.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:01:01 2019 No.13114368 >>13114237 all the best beer is still ale and most of the worst beer is lager

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:05:32 2019 No.13114389 >>13114346 >>13114353 >>13114368 >SEETHING

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:09:18 2019 No.13114410 >>13114389 >measured response >SEETHING ok fag

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:09:21 2019 No.13114412 >>13114368 If we're talking sheer volume, then yeah sure. There are plenty of well done lagers though. Just depends on what you like. Not really up for debate.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:11:05 2019 No.13114420 >>13114319 Pro racism, yeah, but I have never seen anyone boycott anything on /pol/. /pol/ knows that it is an extreme minority and a boycott will do nothing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:26:37 2019 No.13114495 >>13114412 >There are plenty of well done lagers though I repeated said that too

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:33:56 2019 No.13114537 >>13102409 The funny thing is we send you our shit, and you send us your best, and it isn't much better. Our craft scene BTFO's anything from Europe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:42:38 2019 No.13114582 >>13103581 I love best brown. I wish it was available year round.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:44:18 2019 No.13114589 >>13113408 You're focusing on one type of lager, there are a huge range of lagers that are definitely not flavorless. If you're a homebrewer, get a pressure capable fermentation chamber and making lagers becomes much easier.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:44:22 2019 No.13114590 >>13114410 I'm shocked you havent tripped the flood detector posting 5 replys to one post.

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:47:34 2019 No.13114601 >>13110685 lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:52:25 2019 No.13114621 >>13114590 It's almost like more than one other person posts here!

>>	Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:57:40 2019 No.13114637 File: 41 KB, 839x1200, gulden-draak-2-1200.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A local place had this stuff on tap and it was amazing, probably gonna buy some in bottles if I can find it

Anonymous Thu Oct 24 23:57:58 2019 No.13114639

>>13098038
>I've tried Guinness, bud light, budweisser, coor's light, Tecate, PBR, Corona, Miller light, heineken
>they all taste like piss or shitty flint water
That's because they are. Don't get me wrong, I'll put down an 18 pack of budweiser and not think twice, but it isn't good beer. The other anon mentioned Sierra Nevada, I like the Sierraveza.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 00:00:22 2019 No.13114647 >>13114637 I'm breaking my keto diet for Hallowwen and I'm going to get two big bottles of this (plus a sour pumpkin ale).

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 00:58:31 2019 No.13114827 >>13114637 good taste

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 04:12:48 2019 No.13115292 >>13114637 Gulden Draak is one of the more underrated Belgian beers desu. Always lost in the shadow of La Trappe, Chimay and Rochefort.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 04:39:33 2019 No.13115362 >>13102725 >bitter That beer tastes like toasted marshmallow. One of my favorites. Definitely not bitter.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 07:42:23 2019 No.13115742 >>13114621 Yeah but since 3 of the 5 are in first person, and the other 2 are the exact same stupid shit you posted earlier and the unique poster count didnt go up it's a pretty safe bet it was just your stupid ass handing out You's

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 08:52:24 2019 No.13115858 File: 1.70 MB, 3672x2376, Bells-2018-Release-Calendar.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13114582 >I love best brown. I wish it was available year round. I thought it was was but I guess not?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 08:53:28 2019 No.13115859 File: 112 KB, 434x640, Bells_Beer_Availability_Calendar-2017-434x640.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13115858

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 09:57:19 2019 No.13115989 File: 300 KB, 1168x2080, aa705caed55ab923f7998a849e7a2079.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Could drink this all the time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 12:41:16 2019 No.13116424 they drink room temperature beer in the UK

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 13:55:24 2019 No.13116683 >>13116424 Ales are drank at cellar temperature which is in the 50F's, fool. Lagers are refrigerated.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 14:49:53 2019 No.13116852 >>13116424 Depends on the beer, but apart from lambics and IPAs, I prefer my beers cave temperature.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 16:03:26 2019 No.13117200 >>13116424 Complete meme. I've never been served room temperature beer in any pub, real ales are more than likely closer to cellar temp.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 17:33:54 2019 No.13117562 >>13116424 Depends on the style. Lager should be ice cold, stouts and Belgians can be served at 12-15 degrees Celsius and glühkriek have a recommended serving temp at 70C, although I think it taste better slightly cooler.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 17:46:23 2019 No.13117606 Shiner’s Oktoberfest aint half bad, but my go to this month is a local Marzen out of Bossier City, Louisiana from Flying Heart Brewery.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 17:48:35 2019 No.13117615 File: 65 KB, 500x500, a tout le monde.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Honestly one of my favorite beers lately.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 17:48:52 2019 No.13117617 >>13104892 Glad to see someone here can empathize with the working man

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 17:49:54 2019 No.13117620 >>13106049 You a fan of Torpedo?

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 17:56:26 2019 No.13117646 >>13117615 >Unibroue My nigga. Though personally I prefer La Fin du Monde

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 17:57:09 2019 No.13117653 File: 697 KB, 517x717, Capture.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Tried Dogfish Head for the first time, wasn't super impressed but it had a nice flavor.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 17:57:27 2019 No.13117656 >>13117646 I've tried several other Unibroue beers but none really get me like this one. I'm a huge Megadeth fan which made me buy it originally but at this point it's one of my go-to beers.

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 20:16:35 2019 No.13118129 File: 78 KB, 490x686, 8818746228766.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This gets shit on now because its popular, but god damn it's great. Cracked one tonight

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 20:24:34 2019 No.13118156 >>13114637 The Gulden Draak quad is out of this world aswell.

Anonymous Fri Oct 25 21:24:34 2019 No.13118429

>>13118129
a lot of craft beer bars are starting to say they won't carry Founders anymore because Founders management isn't woke enough, and obviously bar owners aren't a particularly woke crowd either but if the customers are clamoring for it they will do it

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 21:25:40 2019 No.13118436 >>13118156 I went to a Gulden Draak owned taproom when I was in Prague, place was pretty cool. Had a great calvados barrel aged version of it

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 21:26:23 2019 No.13118440 >>13117653 >tried the 60 minute ipa pfft. you know they put out more than your mom did in college?

Anonymous Fri Oct 25 21:47:23 2019 No.13118494

>>13118429
The only thing I get of theirs on tap is breakfast stout or dirty bastard. Theres enough local output to take up tap space here so i wouldnt care too much, but i still pick up their stuff from the liquor store from time to time so I'd be pissed if that stopped for retarded reasons

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 21:53:29 2019 No.13118512 >>13118494 >Theres enough local output to take up tap space here so i wouldnt care too much Thats exactly why so many bars are going to be willing to give it up under mild twitter based pressure

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 21:57:48 2019 No.13118534 >>13118512 That's fine. I like finding out about new local spots that way desu. I think it should be that way. If you can cut transportation costs why not

Anonymous Fri Oct 25 22:07:48 2019 No.13118565

>>13118534
well yeah, there really will never be another brewery like Founders or the handful of other breweries like them in scope again. There are so many great breweries in every city now that its basically impossible to expand you stuff more than a state or two away now

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 22:10:38 2019 No.13118575 I had 16 budweisers

Anonymous Fri Oct 25 23:36:51 2019 No.13118884
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>>13118129
It gets shit on because their are much better examples of a bba stout out there and it has become babies first big boy beer.

>>13118429
The Spaniards are putting on a master class in fucking up a wrongful dismissal case and damage control. Half the bars that are dropping them were claiming they would drop them last month when the sale was announced and before that were claiming it was because they produced too much.

Anonymous Fri Oct 25 23:42:02 2019 No.13118901

>>13118884
>because their are much better examples of a bba stout
I don't know about that. There are certainly better ones, but KBS is still solid. I think the difference is that KBS used to be legitimately special, one of the very first widely distributed beers of its quality and style, and now that style is pretty common

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 23:43:05 2019 No.13118902 >>13118884 Seriously though, Founders has been handling the PR angle of this just really fucking badly Listening to fucking lawyers instead of making common sense PR moves

>>	Anonymous Fri Oct 25 23:49:51 2019 No.13118927 >>13118884 I'd say maybe a handful of breweries can make something close to kbs. If you think otherwise your heads up your own ass

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 00:11:43 2019 No.13119000

The ale and lager debate seems to be going too far ahead into the modern age. Prohibition destroyed diversity in the American market and the resulting vacuum that macrolagers have filled doesn't really seem like a natural merit of lagers or even of their marketing so much as an inevitability once you get that they were pretty well the only game in town.
We can talk about the early dark lager period and compare the popularity of those against contemporary ales of the time but lagering back then was constrained to whoever had the coolest caves, so it seems like the information there would be limited by the sample size.
What I will bring up is this: Once the Pilsner Urquell came out, lagers bulldozed the entire market in Bohemia within a mere 5 years at least. 5 years after that, 97% of breweries primarily brewed lager, up from only 32% 10 years earlier.
Was it speculation based on the advent of the pale lager? Why not just make a pale ale in that case?
I'm not sure what the situation was like in other countries apart from everyone finding out about Pilsners and scrambling to replicate the brew.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 00:20:13 2019 No.13119021 >>13119000 I think the problem is that people are talking past each other. The pro-lager crowd is talking about a diverse range of lagers whilst the anti-lager crowd is specifically talking about pale lagers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 00:22:01 2019 No.13119025 >>13118927 It is unique in that it tastes like a ba stout and has seen distribution to fucking everywhere in crazy volumes. If you do not have a brewery near you that can make a better ba stout you need to fucking move.

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 00:28:38 2019 No.13119038

>>13119000
This. All that prohibition did was wipe out the competition. Pilsner was state of the art and the public loved it. A big part of the start of craft beer in the US was novelty and an idea of a premium product. Besides, it you cant enjoy a macro every once in a while you are a joyless faggot. (You too euros. Dont fucking pretend you dont drink carlsberg like your meaningless existence depends on it every mow and again.)

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 00:31:05 2019 No.13119048 >>13118927 I'll one up you and say that their is a large contingent that can make great BA stouts that are as flavorful if not more so and not have to use a pile of adjuncts to make a stout taste like a stout.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 00:32:55 2019 No.13119056 >>13118902 No attorney who isnt stoned out of his mind would advise them to take the "I dont see color, how should I know hes a nigger?" Defense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 00:47:19 2019 No.13119100 >>13119021 Being the author of some the pro lager discourse I am mostly talking about the one guy trying to poorly articulate a stupid idea.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 00:53:00 2019 No.13119121 >>13119100 Funny because you've just replied to me where earlier I was accused of being that guy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 01:12:08 2019 No.13119201 >>13119038 >it you cant enjoy a macro every once in a while you are a joyless faggot Getting ahead of yourself here. Pilsner's good, but you're really making a step for heavily adjuncted macros here?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 01:19:43 2019 No.13119228 >>13119056 i believe that was a former employee who they have gotten rid of?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 01:53:50 2019 No.13119307 File: 3.95 MB, 1273x1639, Oktoberfest pinball flyer - Copy.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13089622 Did you know there's an Oktoberfest pinball machine? Well now you do.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 01:55:32 2019 No.13119311 >>13119307 And here's some gameplay footage. Just in case. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UXCV8nKqb0 pinballmap.com

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 02:45:20 2019 No.13119490

>>13090238
picked this one up at Walmart the other day. I've drank 3 of them and I just don't like it. It's everything and IPA should be, but somehow off. I wish I had purchased some Dogfish head IPA or even Stone instead. I've heard other anons say this one is macro/multinational, which explains why it sucks.

Another huge let down was Zeigenbock. Steer clear of that beer, it fucking sucks. Tastes like Budwesier and Shiner fucked and this is their morbid infant's bottled piss.

If you guys are looking for some decent beers, try Paulaner's Doppelbock or Dogfish Head 90/120 minute IPA. I've had great luck lately too with Texas (DFW) area craft brews, especially anything by Community Brewing Company or Deep Ellum Brewing. I've also taken a huge likening to Lagunita's Lil Sumpin Ale.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 04:39:20 2019 No.13119747 >>13118429 >because Founders management isn't woke enough lmao what?

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 05:25:38 2019 No.13119842
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Isn't the best IPA ever made but certainly is pretty good. Nice hop finish and a little bit of citrus sour aftertaste.

I'm Arizona native so idk if they really sell anywhere else or international.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 05:59:28 2019 No.13119943 >>13119228 Not as of the reporting. He is the GM of the now (as of friday) closed detroit location. Remember: founders is admitting no wrong doing, so why would they fire the guy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 06:11:31 2019 No.13119971 >>13119747 Based founders has different printers for black and white employees. They're getting sued by some nog. Google it

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 06:11:56 2019 No.13119973
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>>13119747
Search founders racial discrimination law suit. Basicly they hired a black guy to manage events at the tap room they opened in detroit and when he complained about things like the staff being called "niggers" and the office printer being labeled the "white guy printer" and the down stairs printer being labeled the "black guy printer" they fired him instead of taking steps to hide the reason for firing or to rectify the problem. Things were going along pretty well with founders creating an inclusivity manager and shit like that until last week when during the course of the trial their defense was leaked. While being interviewed by the plaintiff's attorney he dropped them gem of "“I don’t know Tracy’s lineage, so I can’t speculate on whether he’s — if he’s from Africa or not,” He followed up with "In front of several attorneys, Ryan — who is white — was able to muster up that his former employee’s skin is “different.” He eventually admitted that Evans was “darker.” But Ryan didn’t know his former employee’s DNA, he said. Asked whether Evans is a man of color, he avoided the question. What about Michael Jordan? “I’ve never met him,” Ryan said. Former president Barack Obama? Same thing."

>In case you are wondering if the dude is light skinned or something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 06:14:47 2019 No.13119981 >>13119121 Great, still a retard spouting stupid shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 06:18:17 2019 No.13119987 >>13119973 Obama is a halfie though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 06:23:23 2019 No.13120001 >>13119981 Most pale lagers don't have a lot of taste dimensionality, regardless of what you say.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 06:47:18 2019 No.13120085 >>13119987 Would you ask him to use the white person printer or the black person printer then?

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 06:57:56 2019 No.13120119

>>13120001
Most macro adjunct lagers taste of off flavors from the use of adjuncts, which is still flavor. Non shit craft lagers (some can be very bad) tend to be more like the euro producers and have a balanced profile. Hops and malt in balance is not a "lack of flavor" and just because you have never heard of a noble hop doesnt mean they dont exist. It's not all about alpha acids and cookie batter.

4/10 you got me to reply.

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 07:10:35 2019 No.13120149

>>13120119
Balance is not a dimension of flavour. Neither is more or less perceptibility of flavour such as high or low bitterness.

Pale ales (or golden ales) tend to be hopped with a greater variety of hop varietals and have more estery flavours, which pale lagers tend to lack. It's not about the extremity of flavour, it's about the complexity which pale lagers often lack.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 07:44:26 2019 No.13120209 >>13118129 It's an ok beer but it has ridiculous grades on apps like untapdd

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 08:23:28 2019 No.13120280 >>13119971 He's right though. Actually saying that shit in public away from dumb shitposting territory online is absolute fucking cringe.

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 09:07:59 2019 No.13120387
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>>13094621
When are IPAs going to fucking die? I don't even hate them but they clog up the beer cooler or aisle in every god damned store where I live, sometimes I simply want a darn amber ale but no all they got are a million IPAs and Bud.

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 10:14:02 2019 No.13120544

>>13119048
Coffee and chocolate. What a huge list.
>>13119025
I can think of two near me that are on par or better than kbs. Two out of I dont even know how many breweries and ba shit anymore.
Kbs is unique in being a good ba beer. I'd say 80% of the ones I've tried are garbage, from the west coast all the way to the east coast.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 10:22:21 2019 No.13120561 >>13120387 Yeah, fuck hazies. Just bring back the good old west coast style.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 10:25:46 2019 No.13120567 >>13120149 >word soup Contradictions dont work to your benefit muh man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 10:26:41 2019 No.13120574 File: 391 KB, 419x394, 1557593421804.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13120561 you've never tasted treehouse

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 10:37:43 2019 No.13120613 >>13120561 Nah, get 'em all out the way and have people make decent bitters and milds again

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 11:14:24 2019 No.13120726 >>13120567 Nice argument.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 11:53:42 2019 No.13120843 >>13120613 The one decent bitter near me got discontinued and it fucking blows. They put it on nitro and it was perfect

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:00:59 2019 No.13120872 >>13119973 this is what lawyers do to people. We should really ban lawyers

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:02:05 2019 No.13120877 >>13120561 lol oh fuck, don't do this, what a fucking terrible idea. IPAs have improved so fucking much over the last 5 years

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:04:34 2019 No.13120890 Redpill me on guldendraak

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:05:23 2019 No.13120895 File: 98 KB, 750x706, EHz5t65XUAALRo8.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13119973

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:06:02 2019 No.13120899 >>13120890 Tastes good and gets you there

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:09:59 2019 No.13120911

>>13120726

>Balance is not a dimension of flavour. Neither is more or less perceptibility of flavour such as high or low bitterness.

Low or high bitterness is, by definition, a measure of flavor. It is the amount or bitterness you sense, ergo a measurement, or a dimension. As you are a mouth breathing retard I expect you suffer in understanding this one but hey, take 2 seconds to hit up google and find out all about synonyms.

>
Pale ales (or golden ales) tend to be hopped with a greater variety of hop varietals and have more estery flavours, which pale lagers tend to lack. It's not about the extremity of flavour, it's about the complexity which pale lagers often lack.

Now we get into your complete lack of understanding about not only pale lagers (thanks for learning new nomenclature to actualy describe a beer style instead of making a blanket statement about a huge and disparate variety! I had faith you weren't as stupid as your posts seem to indicate.) You are far more likely to find single hopped IPA's than lagers. The number one ranked beer in north america for 3 years running is a single hopped ipa. Your average pale lager uses a blend of the noble hops to develop that balance you are claiming has nothing to do with the flavor of the beer. Furthermore, the Hops lend turpines to the beer, not esters which are a product of the fermentation. While you are correct that ales tend to create more esters that is a product of the yeast and not of the hops varietals or quantities. Those esters tend to be considered less of a benefit to the style and more of a indication of poor fermentation but some beer styles are built on them. You are correct that light lager quality control normaly keeps this shit out of the beer.

All in all: good for you! You used a word related to beer flavor description! You used it incorrectly and attributed it to the wrong source but hey, we have to walk before we can fly right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:14:06 2019 No.13120924 >>13120877 How so?

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:15:11 2019 No.13120929
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>>13120895
The guy they hired to manage their 2nd location wasnt sure if this guy was black? I'd hate to see him give a description to the police if they ever had a robbery..

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:16:25 2019 No.13120934 >>13120872 It's just a case of talk shit get hit though, Founders done goofed

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:18:54 2019 No.13120943

>>13120924
late boil hops additions and dry hopping result in better tasting beer than early boil west coast style

Very few of the popular IPAs 8 years ago besides like Two Hearted (which was never really west coast style, but old school midwest style) still stand up as quality today. A lot of breweries have had to straight up drop their flagship IPAs in favor of newer better ones. This is a combination of beer making trends (not boiling the hops as much but using more) and the availability of better hops starting with Citra becoming widely known in like 2010 steadily advancing from there

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:18:59 2019 No.13120945 >>13120924 Balance

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:19:57 2019 No.13120950 >>13120929 eye witnesses are absolutely terrible at giving descriptions to police

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:25:35 2019 No.13120968 >>13120950 But is he black?

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:27:03 2019 No.13120972 >>13120943 How has this actually affected the taste? Is it more bitter, less bitter, is it that the aromas are more like actual fruits now, etc.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:30:52 2019 No.13120986 File: 138 KB, 500x500, 753270.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>13089622 Anybody else tried this stuff? It's pretty boozy and has a pretty nice whiskey whiff. I like it.

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:31:14 2019 No.13120989

>>13120972
So early boil west coast style means more bitter, less flavor, less aromatics. Late boil means less bitter, more aromatic (the aromatic compounds literally boil away with time), better flavor profile though less flavor per amount of hops so more hops are used.

The extreme of this is dry hopping which is adding hops post-boil, which basically all good IPAs do now to some extent, you are even starting to see some no-boil IPAs from some smaller breweries

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:33:00 2019 No.13120996 >>13120989 Wait I thought the IPA schtick was that they were bitter

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:36:56 2019 No.13121010 >>13120996 No, hops have a flavor that's more than just bitter. There are a few incredibly hoppy local brews around here that taste basically like an entire pine tree in a can.

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:37:07 2019 No.13121013

>>13120996
Well west coast IPA is, there was the late 00s, early 10s trend of making everything as California style as possible by boiling a whole lot of hops super long to make very bitter IPAs trying to maximize the IBUs

But the trend since then has been for less and less bitter IPAs, now the large majority of them are still somewhat bitter, but much better flavor than we were seeing when West coast style was dominant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:37:29 2019 No.13121018 >>13120996 >>13120996 The high ibu trend has really fallen by the wayside. Most of the new varietys with funny ass names are all about fruit similarity

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:38:42 2019 No.13121024 >>13120996 Ipa is also a very broad style which has aloud for all the adjunct weirdness that is popular in some places.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:40:09 2019 No.13121029 >>13120996 It's just regular pale ale but with more hops. There's no standard.

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:41:46 2019 No.13121036

>>13121024
also the popularity of IPA has lead brewers to call a lot of adjacent stuff IPAs (like the rebranding of some APAs as session IPAs, or calling hoppy wheat beers White IPA, or hoppy maltier beers as Red IPA) and make new things from IPA broadening the style

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:42:15 2019 No.13121039

>>13121010
>>13121013
>>13121018
Would you go as far as to say that Hazy NEIPAs are saving the beer world?

And is there any market for traditional IPAs? The original styles made back in the colonial era for a long journey at sea; what the heck do those taste like?

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:51:05 2019 No.13121081

>>13121039
Dry-hopping is good, and while I don't really like the juicy fruitier IPAs more variety is better for the market. My favorite IPA is still a local one that does their own thing with malts and hop blend which can't really be easily classified.

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 12:53:33 2019 No.13121086

>>13121039
I wouldn't say saving the beer world in any way, but they are definitely making IPA better
>And is there any market for traditional IPAs? The original styles made back in the colonial era
No, not really besides as a curiosity or novelty. They just aren't that good, they were made for a completely different situation than modern drinkers face, and even old school west coast IPA barely resembles them.

Traditional IPA was made because people did not understand sanitation or microbiology. Essentially all beer that wasn't drank fresh was sour, people discovered adding hops slowed the rate at which beer soured (you will see many modern intentionally sour beers use dried hops, and very small amounts to avoid this). So during the british time in India when there was no brewing infrastructure in India they had to make a beer which would still be ok for the long trip, this beer would not be good by modern standards, it was only considered good for that application in that it took a very long time to sour.

Now IPAs are drank as fresh as possible because the best part of the hop flavor diminishes over time, this is especially important with more modern, aromatic IPAs, they almost start to taste like shitty west coast IPA after sting on a shelf for 12 months

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 13:42:17 2019 No.13121307 >>13120085 The black one but I'd call it the "one for n words"

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 15:13:31 2019 No.13121617 >>13121307 That a) happened and b) the self censorship is cute. You can say nigger on the internet friend.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 15:14:38 2019 No.13121618 >>13121086 The export theory for the naming is currently out of favor for ipa.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 15:21:57 2019 No.13121634 >>13121618 what is in favor?

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 15:26:36 2019 No.13121647

>>13121634
Some garbage about the east indies dock being right there next to the first recorded ipa brewers. The only leg they have to stand on is that the preservative properties of hops were known prior to ipa being a thing and that stable beer didnt require the same stuff needed for the style. That said it's a crap shoot and I prefer the version that leans towards preservation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 15:28:33 2019 No.13121653 >>13121647 I've never heard references to the dock theory

Anonymous Sat Oct 26 17:34:45 2019 No.13122141
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>>13119973
>Asked whether Evans is a man of color, he avoided the question. What about Michael Jordan? “I’ve never met him,” Ryan said. Former president Barack Obama? Same thing."
>mfw
How absolutely delightfully retarded of them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Oct 26 17:38:22 2019 No.13122157 >>13122141 most commentary I have read from legal professionals suggest this was just the guy doing what his lawyers asked but awkwardly

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