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No spice is used more than pepper. It’s insane if you think about it. A spice mainly grown in Vietnam, Indonesia, and India is used in every dish you cook.
Not even onion and garlic can compete with peppercorn.

>> No.12643393

>>12643377
True that. The history of pepper is bathed in blood and drenched in history. There's never been a more fought over and held as commodity spice. We should all appreciate what it took to get pepper to all our tables and kitchens.

>> No.12643415

>>12643377
Why it is still so expensive, with it being so popular you would think it would drive down the price but it still costs quite a lot for the small amount you get. Its more expensive than more exotic spices like cumin and turmeric and such.

>> No.12643431

>>12643415
Dude...

>> No.12643450
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12643450

and fuck indonesia. all hail My Exalted Queen Sri Wilhelmina van Orange-nassau the right ruler of Dutch East Indies

>> No.12643452

>>12643450
Fuck off with your colonialist bullshit.

>> No.12643457

>>12643452
>ORANGE LADY BAD

>> No.12643458

>>12643431
I dont like to spend money unnecessarily.

>> No.12643459

>>12643457
Colonialism is part of history now. Wishing to bring back a time where ships could just show up and take over your shit is absolute stupidity.

>> No.12643475
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12643475

>Colonialism is part of history now. Wishing to bring back a time where ships could just show up and take over your shit is absolute stupidity.

>> No.12643487

>>12643459
Aliens are going to do that when first contact is made. Thank God Trump has started a Space Force to protect ourselves.

>> No.12643502

>>12643487
TAKE
THE
TINFOIL
HAT
OFF
AND
PUT
DOWN
THE
KOOLAID.

>> No.12643522

>>12643502
They drank Fla-Vor Aid at Jonestown, not Koolaid.

>> No.12643530 [DELETED] 

>>12643487
>Space Kikes will defend the goyim.

>> No.12643535

>>12643487
EDF!!

>> No.12643549
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12643549

I find chili peppers more astounding desu
>Originally grown and used in only a few parts of central america
>Now used in every single cuisine on earth
You could generalize this to nightshade I suppose, but it's just crazy to me that Chinese recipes that are considered "ancient" were not created until after Columbus explored the Americas.

>> No.12643554

>>12643415
Where do you live?
What do you consider expensive?
I'd say normal brands are quite cheap.
That said:
Is expensive pepper worth it? While you don't have to, you absolutely can spend a shitload of money for pepper. But what will it get me?

>> No.12643803

>>12643393
The history of pepper is drenched in history?

>> No.12643840

>>12643522
As if that actually matters. The point still stands.

>> No.12643869
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12643869

You DO have a reliable pepper grinder right anon ?

>> No.12643873

>>12643549
oooooohhh herro me china
haha
im not racist I just like to make voices

what was that about their food?

>> No.12643934

>>12643549
>nightshade
Seriously, what an incredible influence that family of plants has had on world cuisine.

>> No.12644075

>>12643869

Margret, get off 4chan right now.

>> No.12644121
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>>12644075


Buying expensive pepper without a proper mill will only bring you misery zoomer.

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>>12643377
I haven't bought this meme shit in about ten years.
Its expensive and inconvenient, I easily replaced it with ground red pepper which costs less, is stronger, and pre-powdered with no flavor loss.
Million times better, life improved significantly.

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>>12643869
Yes, ceramic doohickey and I even linseed oiled the fucker so it doesnt feel all dry n sheiiiit

>> No.12644319
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>>12644179
>Replacing pepper with chili
Nigger, do you even cook? WTF man.

>> No.12644526

>>12643869
I smash my peppercorns up in a mortar and pestle. Grinder takes too long for the quantities I tend to use.

>> No.12644548

>>12643452
>sore loser

>> No.12644561

>>12643459
Tnose were great times. Don't know why you're so upset.

>> No.12644578
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>>12644179
>I think black pepper is used for the heat

>> No.12644610

>>12643869
Why does a car manufacturer make pepper mills?
And why was an awesome electric pepper mill cheaper than one by Peugeot at my supermarket?

>> No.12644622
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12644622

Step aside.

>110cm
>900€/1000$

A review on Amazon : "It is a big, big, bbbiiiiiiiiggggggggg pepper mill. It stands tall and puts a smile on everyone's face at the dinner table. It reminds every guest to behave while eating at the table."


I don't know the purpose of tall pepper grinder.

>> No.12644637

>>12643554
By weight black pepper is one of the more expensive spices.

>> No.12644642

>>12643377
I get huge bags of them from an Asian grocery store here, Swad brand. My mom got autistic about it and ordered some diameter-graded corns.

>> No.12644669
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>>12644610

>a car manufacturer...

>The Peugeot family of Valentigney, Montbéliard, Franche-Comté, France, began in the manufacturing business in the 19th century. In 1842, they added production of coffee, pepper, and salt grinders.

where did you had this crazy idea anon ? Peugeot only produce good pepper and salt mills.

>> No.12644673

>>12644610
Peugeot made/make a lot of things, it's a very old compagny.

>> No.12644679

>>12644179
I don't think you've ever even understood what pepper is for. Dumbass.

>> No.12644694
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12644694

For me, it's the Oxo pepper mill, with ceramic burr.

>> No.12644712

Fun fact: black pepper makes your liver temporarily stop removing bullshit like turmeric components from your blood. Some see this as a good thing.

>> No.12644803

>>12644179
Imagine thinking red pepper and peppercorns have anywhere near the same flavor profile.

>> No.12644858

>>12643415
could be loads of factors like difficult/expsnive to grow, time to dry it, expensive packaging etc. could also be that its priced in line with other spices

>> No.12644894

>>12643415
The 28 ounce bags of corns I buy are pretty cheap. I don't even remember what I pay for it because it's nothing.

>> No.12645037

>>12644526
so do you take it to the dining table and let your guests crush up their own pepper?

>> No.12645065

>>12644526
What quantities? My ceramic burr hand mill can churn through a quarter cup of corns in ten seconds.

>> No.12645075

>>12645037
>implying I have guests
But sure, I have a smaller one too.

>> No.12645140

>>12645065
It's probably just cause I've mostly used the shitty preloaded peppercorn grinders you buy cheap. Seems like I grind and grind and just get a few fucking flakes out.

>> No.12645181

>>12645140
>preloaded peppercorn grinders
Dear lord throw that shit out

>>buy cheap
lol, no. Look at how little pepper you actually get in those and then do the math. Those things are more costly than mail-ordering high end peppercorns from some fancy online site.

>> No.12645190

>>12645075
Seems a little inconvenient though? Well, I guess it's a good idea.

>> No.12645220

>>12645037
Not him, but I do the same and if I had guests and I wanted them to season their own food, I'd grind a fistful of pepper and set it down at the table for them to grab.
>>12645190
not really, I just have no use for a pepper mill when my m&p works just fine.

>> No.12646367

>>12643934
God damn. Tomatoes, potatoes, peppers, eggplant, and tobacco. That's nuts.

>> No.12646385
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12646385

You guys have blown it, big time. I'm not seeing 4 pepper blend. It's the only pepper I ever use any more. Black pepper is for basic bitches.

I'm not joking, you'll use it once and never go back.

>> No.12646533

>>12643452 I don’t see any pepper in the west before the spice trade my dude

>> No.12646602

>>12644894
Link please?

>> No.12646624

>>12646602
I get it at an Asian supermarket called Double Dragon.

>> No.12646815

>>12643377
>every dish
Nope. I mean, if you want to claim hot peppers are the same as black pepper and ignore all sweet dishes, then you could say the vast majority.

>> No.12646840

>>12644622
large phallic symbol. its so you can force your dinner guests to eat your metaphorical jizz

>> No.12646921

>>12643450
based and redpilled
but we don't want indonesia
there's like 300M Muslims there

>> No.12647030

>>12646840

Freudian bullshit.

>> No.12648685 [DELETED] 

>>12646385
>racemixing propoganda in a pepper thread
yikes

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>>12646385
>4 pepper blend
Pft.

>> No.12648758

>>12643377
>it's insane if you think about it
You're in the wrong century if you think transporting goods around the world is insane.

>> No.12648914

>>12646385
I do use it in my ikea grinder >>12644204
Its grrrrreat

>> No.12648928

>>12646385
>>12648746
Wh-which one do I choose? I don't want to be a pepperlet forever

>> No.12648936

>>12648758
lol good point. I work in a warehouse and I thought the complexity of modern shipping networks was insane. I thought that for a day or two and then the novelty wore off as I remembered that nothing hasn't changed fundamentally we're just getting more efficient at it.

>> No.12648971

>>12648936
Yep. If anything we're simply strengthening the routes created hundreds of years ago. I didn't mean to mock your first post or anything, it's easy to acknowledge the interesting history of international trade. But as you say, in a modern sense it's pretty much just about efficiency (and more and more the nudge is for environmentally responsible).

If you like the history and like to read, check out Shogun. It's about an English navigator that gets stranded in Japan in 1600, but it also establishes the Netherland's surge in trading dominance against their Spanish/Portuguese enemies as well as his mission to establish new trading routes in the new world and in undiscovered areas.

>> No.12649375

>>12648971
>weeb anime website
>I need to explain the plot of Shogun
Niggah, wat?

>> No.12649401
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12649401

>Did somebody say peppers?

>> No.12649415

>>12649375
>weeb anime
>Shogun
One of these is not like the others...

>> No.12649448

>>12648928

Just buy McCormick 4 pepper blend. It's not hard to do.

>> No.12649488

>>12644637
>>>12643554
>By weight black pepper is one of the more expensive spices.
It's just not. A container of BADIA brand peppercorns, probably a pound, is going to be dollar store prices.

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>>12648746
>>12646385

>> No.12649717

>>12649401
dumb moron poster

>> No.12649966

Pepper blend should be banned.

>> No.12649992
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12649992

>>12643869
>spending more than $6 on a mill

>> No.12651694

>>12644610
Peugeot also used to make pliers and chisels.
I think they’ve started up again.
The pliers were really nice.

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>>12644694
These peper mills are great.
OXO used to make a salt shaker that matched that was also excellent.
Sadly, they’ve discontinued the salt shaker.

>> No.12652485

>>12649992
>not just crushing the pepper to your desired grain size in your fist

>> No.12652612

>>12643377
you're right! I never really thought about how much history is has. pepper really is an amazing ingredient!

also who here likes pickled green peppercorns? they are really great in sauces and roasted meat