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>Cooking at home is cheaper and taste better than eating out

>> No.12630233

>>12630227
sounds like you’re just bad at cooking faggot

>> No.12630236

>>12630227
Go eat another spit burger, tendie.

>> No.12630253

>Gordon Ramsay

>> No.12630257

It's definitely cheaper

>> No.12630266

>>12630227
Not a meme. If you buy ingredients in the right quantities and don't use boxed/packaged/jarred stuff then it is cheaper. And for tasting better, who do you think is going to put more effort and care into the food? A home cook who is making it for themselves or some junkie line cook who doesn't give a fuck if you die from what they're serving you? You likely just don't know how to plan meals, cook, or buy the ingredients. That's honestly sad that you can't even get that right. I'm sure the rest of your life is a disaster

>> No.12630270

>>12630227
Anchovies on pizza. No one actually likes it and that's fact

>> No.12630281
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>pizza is for adults

>> No.12630344

It is though, even for single people who are inclined to waste food. If you keep it simple and don’t insist on a totally different menu every single day, you can have an excellent diet using all fresh high quality ingredients for very little money.

What destroys most peoples food budgets is buying too many different fruits and veg they don’t even eat.

Unless you’re cooking from a recipe that specifically demands more and you want to stick to it perfectly, a good rule of thumb is no entree actually needs more than two vegetables (after garlic and onions, which keep for a long time). Buy one kind of fruit for the week, that’ll do you you can have it with breakfast.

Be smart with stuff like chicken and ground beef, be realistic about how much you can eat and don’t buy too much unless you are planning to freeze it, you don’t save money buying in bulk if you end up putting 1/3 of it in the bin.

tldr use your brain and it’s a case of this but unironically

>> No.12630352

>>12630281
Pizza is for anyone who enjoys it, you tryhard

>> No.12630353

>>12630227
>if you're an asshole, chef spit in your food
there's cameras everywhere, this rarely happens, even if it's deserved

>> No.12630359

>>12630270
fuck you

>> No.12630387

>>12630344
I like you for at least rationally talking this out, but let's be honest, if you're not the kind of person that spends each night at home, this is untenable as a single person.

Someone who gets paid to spend hours a day with multiple fresh ingredients is always going to kick my ass at cooking when my experience is limited to trying to cost-control ingredients on my way home from the office at 6 PM.

Eating out means I get a reliable meal that fits whatever I want to have, rather than clumsily trying to figure out how I fit cilantro into whatever recipe I looked up over the weekend.

>> No.12630392

>>12630359
Stop eating things like anchovy pizza just to feel unique. Pretending to like objectively disgusting foods does not count as a personality. Grow up

>> No.12630397

>>12630387
Meals from fresh ingredients can be 30 minutes or less. Try acting like an adult.

>> No.12630411

>>12630387
You don't need a new recipes every week.

>> No.12630414

I prefer to it at home unless I can't get the ingredients or the process of making the food is just too tedious or requires special equipment

>> No.12630442

>>12630227
>He doesn't own a slow cooker
Chili, stews, soups, rice dishes and all sorts of stuff are super easy to make.

>> No.12630446

>>12630227
Honestly, find a good local butcher and get to know them and become a regular. They'll hook you up with amazing deals. Also go to a farmers market and haggle for some cheap corn and fruit.

>> No.12630448

>>12630392
Cry harder, manchild faggot.

>> No.12630453

>>12630227
>homemade meals are a meme because I'm a retard who can't cook

>> No.12630454

>>12630227
just add more salt to make it taste better, you're obviously not using enough of it

>> No.12630455

>>12630448
I'm not the one eating pizza that tastes like it washed up on the beach just for the sake of being edgy

>> No.12630456

>>12630270
you haven't had a good one then

>> No.12630459

>>12630455
No, you're just a coping child-palated faggot.

>> No.12630464

>>12630456
You're right because a good one doesn't exist
>>12630459
Objectively wrong. Maybe try more buzzwords next time

>> No.12630466

>>12630257
Depends on what you make and what you buy.

>> No.12630468

>>12630464
Imagine being this much of an insecure dork because you have the taste buds of a child lol.

>> No.12630475

>>12630468
Where was I insecure? I'm just stating facts. Is it always this hard for you accept truth?

>> No.12630482

>>12630411
Ok enjoy eating the same few combinations of average food you've been eating for the rest of your life. You've given up

>> No.12630497

>>12630475
Where you started projecting your distaste for anchovies and believing in some delusional massive collective deceit of false anchovie-liking. That's where you were insecure.

>> No.12630525

>>12630497
You misunderstand. I'm not projecting my personal distaste. I'm just stating facts. There's two kinds of people in this world: those who hate anchovy pizza and those who are pretending to like it. Not debatable.
>>12630482
So when you eat out constantly you get something new that you haven't tried every time? Lmao don't kid yourself, faggot. You eat the same few combinations of things

>> No.12630527

>>12630227
>and taste better
Nobody said this ever. Cooking at home is cheaper than going out. But it has a cost opportunity of time.

>> No.12630528

>>12630387
Eh you’re right and you’re wrong. Obviously if you have no training or experience you can’t make complex dishes well and perhaps never will.

But if you buy good ingredients and try making relatively simple dishes like omelettes, burgers, pasta dishes etc., try to have a little enthusiasm and learn from your mistakes, you absolutely can make food as good or better than the pros. Better in some cases if only because you can have it your way every time.

>> No.12630531

>>12630525
You misunderstand. You're a faggot manchild and ooze insecurity.

>> No.12630532
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This thread went exactly as OP intended!

>> No.12630537

>>12630527
Yeah, slum niggers slopping your food together definitely tastes better then something a home cook would make. Get real, faggot

>> No.12630545

>>12630531
Ad hominem doesn't count as an argument, but thanks for playing!

>> No.12630559

>>12630545
You seem to be under the impression that the baseless claims of a manchild merit any argument.

>!
No surprise you type like a redditor.

>> No.12630574

>>12630559
So you have no argument AND you're obsessed with plebbit? Yikes

>> No.12630585

>>12630574
Again, the baseless delusions of a manchild fag don't hold any value, there's nothing to argument against. Don't flatter yourself.

>> No.12630589

>>12630227
Toasted burger buns, it's the most boomer thing ever. Use a fresh bun from a bakery instead of wonder bread

>> No.12630658

>homemade cheeseburger, fries and salad
>45c for the meat
>7c for the mayo
>13c for the cheese
>13c for the bun
>19c for the frying oil
>15c for the potato
>5c for the seasonings
>10c for the ketchup
>80c for some fancy ass lettuce
>15c for the salad dressing
_______
$2.22

The burger alone would cost at least that much if eating out.

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>>12630466
>Depends on what you make and what you buy
Did you forget that there are costs associated with running a restaurant?

>> No.12630724

>>12630658
You forgot:
>power
>electricity
>gas
>fuel to drive to the store and back
>time = money

>> No.12630725

>>12630658
>45 cents for meat
what are you using for your patties? chopped up Bar-S hotdogs?

>> No.12630733

>>12630537
I don't drive to the worse parts of the area to go out for food. I go to the places where I can't afford to buy the houses in the nearby residential areas.
Unless I'm craving chicken. Then I'm heading over to the places nearby the boarded up buildings to eat the deliciousness prepared by Peruvians or Ecuadorians.

>> No.12630885

>>12630658
But now you have to eat hamburgers for the rest of the week or your ingredients will go bad, wasting money and therefore making it more expensive.

>> No.12630899

you

>> No.12632339

>>12630885
That’s effectively what you have to do.

Personally I don’t mind though. Looking at it one way just by having different breakfast lunch and dinner meals you’re already getting enough variety.

You can also see it as an opportunity to mix it up a little by trying out different seasonings, sauces and for example cheeses each time you make it.

>> No.12632393

>>12630387
you don't know how to cook then. there are plenty quick and easy recipes you can make. yeah, maybe you won't be making dishes requiring 4+ hours, and yeah, you might need to put in effort and learn. but it's an investment which pays for itself.
basically, you have 2 choices: 1) you can put in effort and learn to cook well, saving yourself a lot of money and potentially making better, tastier food for yourself, or 2) you can pay someone to do it for you because you don't want to put in time/effort.
there's no single right answer, it boils down to your situation. if you have no time, and money is no issue, then of course the benefits of eating out can outweigh the price. but if not, you're just making excuses for yourself.

>> No.12632407

>>12630227
Isn' t that common sense?

>> No.12632465

>>12630724
I did the math once, it costs about 20 cents for me to make a 24 hour stock on the stove. Frying a burger for a couple minutes is negligible.

>>12630885
>now you have to eat hamburgers for the rest of the week or your ingredients will go bad
So your argument is that you have no friends or family willing to spend time with you, in exchange for free food?

Obviously, you suck at cooking. This may not be the board for you to be posting on. Stop, lurk, and learn. Post when you have something to contribute to the community, instead of wasting the time and energy of others, just to feel like someone is willing to pay attention to you. We're not willing, we're just socially obligated to point out you idiocy so that others don't fall victim to your idiotic ways of thinking.

>> No.12632481

Cooking Myth #165930
>Cooking is hard.

>> No.12632520

I like cooking stuff at home but I don't think you should labour under the pretense that you'll save time or money doing it, or that it'll be any healthier for you. I do it because I like to cook.
Due to my living circumstances (I live on my own and don't have any family/friends near me, tiny freezer) it limits what you can make to either stuff you can get just the right amount of ingredients for, or stuff that can keep for several days in a fridge. Casseroles, pasta bakes, pasta sauces, that sort of thing.
There is stuff that I only eat when I go out because I know I'm not a good enough cook to make, don't have the tools to make, or if I do decide to make it I'll have to buy excess ingredients that will go to waste (or I eat a shit ton in one serving).
>>12632481
Depends on what you're cooking and how good you want it to be. If you lower your standards enough then as long as you cook something enough that it won't poison you then anything can be considered successfully cooked.

>> No.12632553

>>12630227
What restaurants do you go to? Unless by eating out you mean going for the dollar menu at Mickey's

>> No.12632590

>>12632520
>I don't think you should labour under the pretense that you'll save time or money doing it, or that it'll be any healthier for you.
Those are literally the only times anyone does any kind of labor, otherwise it's recreation.
>don't have any family/friends near me
>tiny freezer
>I'm not a good enough cook to make
>don't have the tools to make
>excess ingredients that will go to waste
You're just listing excuses. If you don't want to do something, no one here is going to force you to do it, but if you're trying to justify your laziness, we are the last people to try that crap on, because we:
>associate with people that have mutual interests
>buy appliances appropriate for those interests
>practice our skill and improve on them
>acquire the right tools for the task we want to complete
>buy the right amounts of quality ingredients when we plan on preparing them

Truth is, I don't know if you really believe the things you've said or you're just frogposting because you have nothing better in your life than trying to irritate strangers, but either way, you are at a turning point in your life. You can put in the effort to accomplish your goals and become the person that you hope to one day be, or you can take the easy route and settle for the fact that you're not living up to your true potential.

I hope the best for you, Anon.

>> No.12632593

>>12630227
Try sucking less when you cook at home then.

>> No.12632599

>>12630885
Hamburger is easy enough to partition into single-serve baggies and then freeze, same for buns.
Really the most time sensitive thing is the salad and you should eat salad every day.

>> No.12632634

>>12632590
I'm (the one you're replying to) not the OP.
I wouldn't say that those things I mentioned are excuses, they are the things that I must take into account when I cook. On quantities of ingredients: do you go to a butcher? I normally buy my meat from a supermarket for convenience's sake but the quantities normally preclude being able to make one thing for myself. Example: I wanted to make cheeseburgers with American (sliced) cheese for the fourth of July. I bought sliced cheese (came in packs of 10). I bought beef mince for the patties (came in boxes of 500g). Bought buns (came in packs of four).
Ignoring the cheese and the buns, the meat was the real thing in that I couldn't buy any less. Will a butcher sell beef in small enough quantities for one patty? I'm asking this genuinely because if so I might be more willing to make burgers at home. Eating four burgers (which is what I did) so as not to waste the meat (I've always been under the impression you should use meat immediately once it's opened) was fine but I can't really do it that often.
I'm making chili tonight. Chili is fine because the quantities you normally get ingredients in work well for a dish that you can keep in the fridge and reheat over the following days.

>> No.12632655

>>12632634
>Will a butcher sell beef in small enough quantities for one patty?
This may be regionally specific, but I've bought a quarter pound of loose lean ground beef, a single hamburger patty or a single slice of cheese at a deli counter at a supermarket. In fact, One of my favorite sandwiches is bacon, avocado, tomato and muenster. I'll buy just enough bacon and muenster to make two sandwiches at the deli, because I don't risk keeping more than one avocado on hand at a time.

>> No.12632661

The main mistake people make when they start out cooking is thinking it has to be a major production involving hours of preparation.

If you hate getting bogged down in preparation mutinae, then avoid it! Choose simple, yet satisfying cooking methods that suit your lifestyle. If you want to avoid standing around a stove stirring, consider meals involving simple, roughly chopped meats and vegetables on a grill, you can practically literally chop them into medium sized pieces, put them on a grill, come back, turn once, wait a few minutes, they’re done.

And if you absolutely can’t stand cooking but don’t want to pay restaurant or takeout prices, find foods that are good uncooked. Fruit (grapes are my favorite), bread, cheese, sandwich meats and things like sundried tomatoes, olives and hummus make for an excellent meal that doesn’t need to go remotely near a stove or oven.

>> No.12632676

>>12632634
If you go to a butcher enough times and at least say hello, goodbye and how are you or have a good day, meaning a good patron relationship they will do what ever you want, as long as you give them a heads up. Butchers are very streamlined and don't like to waste anything unless it's like gross organs like gallbladders and shit.

But I get a 3lbs bag or beef bones every week for making broth, for about 6 dollars CND. A good butcher will also recommend cuts of meat for specific dishes. bottom line is you need to know how to cook to make a good butcher shine. Otherwise, just go to the grocery store and buy the mass packed bullshit they offer.

>> No.12632684

>>12632661
Don't forget single pan meals!

I threw some pork sausages into a frying pan with a splash of water, covered it while I toasted some bread, threw the toast on a plate, topped with the sausage, cooked some eggs in the sausage grease, and placed those on the toast, then mixed up some packet gravy in the same pan. Took maybe twenty minutes and there was only one pan to wash. I do the same with garlic texas toast, pasta, and reheating home-made red sauce.

>> No.12632690

>>12632676
here's my experience with the butcher
>hello, do you have any fresh fish in?
>i don't know
>........
>.......
>can you check?
>i think it comes in tomorrow
i'll just stick to grocery stores

>> No.12632710

>>12630885
Aww poor you

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>>12630227
>literally a bait thread
All according to keikaku

>> No.12632727

>>12630466
no it doesn't
the exact same cut and grade of steak is always going to be more expensive cooked at a restaurant than purchased raw from a butcher, for example

>> No.12632779

>>12632690
>goes to shitty butcher
>all butchers are shitty!
Yikes.

>> No.12632800

It depends. Buying imported stuff that spoils easily sure isn't cheaper since restaurants can buy it in bulk.
But your average home country meal is 100% sure to be cheaper.

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A large order of chili cheese fries from my usual burger joint costs fucking 8 dollars. I can buy a big ass pack of fries for $3, chili brick for $4, and cheese for $3 and that will make me 4 orders of chili cheese fries that taste even better than the expensive one. Imagine still eating out in 2019

>> No.12632833

>Cooking for yourself is cheaper

Cooking simple meals with cheap ingredients and then eating leftovers for 3 days is cheaper. Trying to consistently make restaurant-quality dishes will make you spend an absurd amount of money on extra ingredients and bullshit you don't need, and the leftovers are never as good.

>> No.12632865

>>12630227
$17 got me two steak dinners with sides. Its absolutely cheaper.

>> No.12633002

>>12630589
you’re an imbecile
toasted buns are infinitely better
i do concede re fresh buns though

>> No.12633029

>>12630387
I worked full time with OT and still made each meal for the day. Try just ya know,not being cucked into the "too busy to cook" meme.

>> No.12633058

>>12630227
Generally true though

>>12630253
Agree.

>> No.12633070

>>12632865
Two skirt steak dinners?
Or did you cut a regular one in half?

>> No.12634295

>>12630227
Kys.

>> No.12634401

>>12630227
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/07/190709141255.htm

>> No.12634534

I spent $150 at Costco and Aldi about a month ago. I am only about half way done with the food I have. And I bought plenty of shit I didn't need
Eating out costs a minimum of $9 unless you're eating McChicken's nonstop.

>> No.12634556

>>12630281
>I allow other people to control what I eat
What a child.

>> No.12634558

>>12630885
You can reuse the meat for multiple different recipes numnuts
Like meatsauce, or chop it up and put it into ramen

>> No.12634579

>>12630227
Proof? Ohhh, a breitbart "article." Ok, so you got any.proof?

>> No.12634584

>>12630885
In my country, that's known as a benefit.

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>>12630227
>pfft I can make a better burger than those fast food burgers
>Uses lean ground beef
>Makes it as thick as a hockey puck

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>>12630227
>You shouldn't fry a newborn's foreskin as onion rings

>> No.12635222

Food you make it home often does taste better because it caters entirely to your own taste. I tend to use way more garlic, cayenne, and Spanish hot paprika than most restaurants would, because that's what I like. Obviously there are some things where eating out is obviously superior like pizzas or barbecue, my oven can't get close to 500°C and I don't have a smoker.

>> No.12636064

>>12630387
Everything you should is factual but it's also just your opinion, man. It takes some focus, and if you've got it, desire to do so. But I live in a huge city with seriously great restaurants, and let me tell you I've recently come prefer cooking at home. Don't let /ck/ shy you away from preparing anything in advance, though it can be a crutch. I deep fry three pounds of chicken every week and freeze and it's the best fried chicken I've ever had every time I heat it up in the oven. And it cost me maybe $10.

>> No.12636082

>>12630455
>stop liking what I don't like

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>>12630233
FPBP

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>>12630227

My homegrown chickens and vegetables and fruits taste waaay better than your store/restaurant bought shit

stay mad faggit

>> No.12636239

>>12630227
Monetarily wise it is cheaper.
But in terms of value, that depends in how much you value your time.

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>>12630387
based and manchildpilled

>> No.12636329

>>12636204
I can testify that grocery berries are virtually inedible, and home chickens lay flavorful eggs. I use grocer eggs for boiled eggs though because the density of home raised is inconsistent as fuck and I never know how long to boil them for soft boiled or medium boiled. Hell I've boiled the fuckers for 15 minutes for hard-boiled and ended up with uncooked whites.

>> No.12636518

>>12630387
my parents used to make a kick-ass beef stew in a pressure cooker... throw it in the fridge and eat off it for most of the week.

i'm buying a pressure cooker this weekend to make a few passes at cooking it

>> No.12636635

>>12630392
Fucking retard.

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>>12630227
Lo, it's true. Your brain is just wired to believe that putting that much effort and money into ordering food that is plated and presented to you in such a lighted environment is anything but the best possible experience of food that you can get.
The idea that 'cooking it at home is better' comes from the fact that you have any possible choice at your disposal to manipulate the food you're eating any, fucking way you want. If you want eggs to be as hot or sweet as your Indian curry or Chinese chicken, you can do it. If you want your Spaghetti to have a Russian twist, you can do it, for half the price you can probably get at any high-end restaurant that would ever even think of something like that.

It really is cheaper to do any meal at home, because you're cutting out all energy and human-resource costs from table to home-table. It might not taste better, or be healthier, but that's just according to home-cook to home-cook. If you can't be bothered to cook well and learn about simple food science, then you'll probably not have any chance at making a dish 'tastier and healthier' than a restaurants. Any other argument is just contrarian nonsense.

>> No.12636722

>>12630724
You need all of those besides electricity to get food anywhere, anyways.

>> No.12636754

>>12630885
You do know that ground beef is extremely versatile, right?
As are the rest of the ingredients.

>> No.12636779

>>12636064
>3 pounds of fried chicken every week
That sounds like way too much fried chicken for one person

>> No.12636897

If eating out is cheaper why isn't everyone severely poor doing that rather than cooking at home? It should also be heavily promoted in life tips for poor people but it isn't. Don't reply with conspiracies please.

>> No.12637315

>>12632465
>Saving money by giving free food to people
Now that's smart

>> No.12637569

>>12636897
Poor people eat out at fast food way more than middle and upper class people. Do you even live in america?? I'm talking american lower class not europoor lower class.

>> No.12637573

>>12637569
>American upper class
Kek.
What does that mean? People who shower more than once a week?

>> No.12637739

>>12637315
>Now that's smart
It is actually. Close friends and family that aren't leaches will return the favor. Just one person, invited over every other day, who in turn invites you over on alternate days, allows you both to buy everything in larger portions for a smaller price per unit, saving money. It also means that you're cooking less frequently, washing fewer pots and pans and spending less time in the kitchen overall, which all saves money on electricity and appliance wear and tear.

Find a friend, Anon.

>> No.12637894

>>12630725
Buy ground beef when it's at its cheapest (around Memorial Day, 4th of July and Labor Day) and freeze it in 3,5oz serving sizes. wala: 45c servings of meat. If you pack it well, they'll keep for about six months (or more)

>power, electricity, gas
Oh gee, you got me there. Guess I'll have to add 2c to the cost. That's really gonna break the bank. </sarcasm>
>fuel to drive to the store
You'd have to drive to Burger King, too.
>time = money
Literally 15 minutes to cook all that. Takes 30 to go to McDonalds, order, eat and come back home.
>b-but you'd have to drive to the store for ingredients (gotcha!)
Yeah. But those ingredients remain usable for months if stored properly.

>>12630885
See above: freeze that shit. Potatoes, properly stored mayo, properly stored cheese, frying oil, and ketchup take an eternity to go off. As for the lettuce, eat some goddamn salad. You could use some vegetation in your diet.
Furthermore, you can make a lot more than just burgers with some ground beef. Meatballs. Meatloaf. Ghetto chili. Millionbof. Bolognese. Keema. Etc etc etc.

>> No.12637912

>>12630227
definitely cheaper, but only tastes better if you go to shit-tier eating out places. although if youre a legit amateur cook and not just a shitter you can make restaurant-quality food pretty easily

>> No.12637923

>>12637912
I'm not a chef or an amateur cook nor do I have any formation in food-making yet the best meals I've had were meals I made myself.

>> No.12637932

>>12637923
there might be some extra satisfaction from knowing you made it yourself i guess, but i really doubt the average home cook can cook to a (good) restaurant level
personally i think i get the opposite effect though, i enjoy cooking but it always ruins it a bit that i know ive spent hours cooking food ill eat in like 10 minutes

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>>12632690
>butcher

>fish

um
what?

>> No.12638042

>>12637932
>but i really doubt the average home cook can cook to a (good) restaurant level

Most people don't eat at "good" restaurants. They eat at places that microwave premade meals that came from pic related. It's not hard to do better than that.

>> No.12638087

>>12638030
This reminds me of the time I raged into a sushi bar and asked for fried chicken wings. In my defense I was wiped out on angeldust.

>> No.12638109

>>12637573
>US has the highest ratio of millionaires
>strongest economy
I get you're a europoor but dont be a eurostupid

>> No.12638113

>>12636779
Not him, but when I fry chicken it's usually @ 3lbs. I'll eat 3-4 pieces for dinner 2 days in a row and usually have a couple left for lunch on the 3rd day. Made chili yesterday for dinner, I'll have more tonight for dinner and lunch for a couple days after. It freezes well but I don't mind eating it several days in a row. It's true of everything I cook. Get a couple dinners out of it and a lunch or 2.

I've never understood the autism about not eating the same main several days in a row since you can easily change it up with different simple sides.

>> No.12638117

>>12638042
Second. I used to be the 'lead cook' at a 'nice' restaurant. The 'traditional creamy tomato bisque' was Campbell's soup and came in a plastic bag. My job was to pour it into a chafing dish, among other similar things.

>> No.12638413

>>12637569
I think that’s because most of them have to work multiple jobs and don’t have the time or energy to cook.

>> No.12638450

>>12638413
But if they didn't pay other people to cook their food, mow their law, walk their dog, watch their kids, clean their house and stroke their dick, they wouldn't need to work multiple jobs in the first place.

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>>12638450
>lower class
>pay other people to cook their food, mow their law, walk their dog, watch their kids, clean their house and stroke their dick

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>>12630466
how dense are you?

>> No.12638487

>>12638463
Why would any of that be appealing? The people who take care of their own shit tend to be much happier.

>> No.12638517

>>12638487
Low income people don‘t pay an army of staff, retard.

>> No.12638537

>>12638517
If they're working multiple jobs, they're not low income, they just can't budget for shit and overpay for services. My point was completely valid.

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>>12638537
>If they're working multiple jobs, they're not low income

>> No.12638562

>>12638553
>employment != income
Come again?

>> No.12638580

>>12638562
>all jobs provide the same level of income
Are you just baiting or are you genuinely mentally challenged?

>> No.12638638

>>12638580
>making shit up
I never said all jobs provided the same level of income. But even at multiple minimum wage jobs, the income is going to be greater than a single income.

Let's look at some actual numbers here. The minimum wage in my state is $12/hr (USD) and a cheap 2bdr apartment is $600 in my city.
Assuming 'mulitple jobs' means 7 days/wk and not working two full times at the same time, that's still $2856/mo, corrected for a conservative 30% tax withholding, that leaves $2K cash income. We can assume that with a room-mate and no SO, that's $300 for rent, $50 for electricity, $30 for internet, $25 for cellphone and $200 for food.

If someone has $1400/mo in expendable income and they're not financially secure, they're fucking retarded and paying for unnecessary services.

>> No.12638695

>>12630227
it's not a meme, it's literally true... although it only tastes better because you cooked it yourself :^)

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>>12638638
>what is transportation, healthcare, savings, education costs
>what is having children
>what is living in a state with $7 minimal wage
>B-BUT MY IMAGINARY CHERRY PICKED SCENARIOS
You don‘t need to go on, it‘s clear you‘ve yet to leave mommy‘s basement. Don‘t forget to contact the Nobel committee and explain how you solved poverty away.

>> No.12638711

>>12638638
>600 for rent

Where the fuck do you live? Kansas?

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>>12630227
>Following a restrictive diet is healthy

>> No.12638766

>>12638709
>what is transportation, healthcare, savings, education costs
That's what the expendable income is for, expenses. If you chose to have a $300 lease instead of taking the bus, then you chose to pay for the unnecessary $250 service of not taking the bus. If you chose to go to college for a career you didn't have the skills to acquire a career in, then you chose to pay for the unnecessary service of college. If you chose to pay for healthcare instead of serving just one term in the military to get it for free, then you chose to pay whatever healthcare costs.
>what is having children
An expense to come out of that expendable income. If you chose to have kids, you chose to increase your financial expenses.
>what is living in a state with $7 minimal wage
A poor life choice

Stop blaming society for your poor financial decisions. If you can't take responsibility for your own actions, you shouldn't be having kids in the first place.

>>12638711
Any medium sized city is going to have lower housing costs. Big city are only good for big jobs.

>> No.12638770

>>12638766
Where I live (Los Angeles area) you literally have to pay 2000 or more for rent if you don’t want to live in the ghetto

>> No.12638815

>>12638770
I'm not surprised. LA is one of the biggest of the big cities. Unless you need to be there to make money, why are you doing it?

>> No.12638828

>>12638815
I was born and raised here and now I’m going to college here as well

Going to try to move out of state after I graduate

>> No.12638851

>>12638828
I don't blame you for wanting to be near family, but the area is a financial death trap.

>> No.12638861

>>12632655
>>12632676
Thank you both for answering me, that's very helpful. I do have a butcher in town so I might try going there next time I need meat.
I think the guy I replied to did have a point: to an extent how cheap/healthy/quick home cooking is will be down to me. I don't think it's true all the time, but I guess as a general rule it works.

>> No.12638875

>>12638770
Sounds like you shouldn’t live in a communist shithole, then.
>MUH LA IS EXPENSIVE!!!1!1
No shit, retard.

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>>12638766
>N-NO BUT MY IMAGINARY SCENARIO IS THE ONE TRUE WAY
>YOU HAVE TO GO DIE FOR ISRAEL TOO STUPID
>YOU RE POOR TOO
Imagine being so sheltered and delusional that cookie-cutter out-of-touch boomer rigamarole appears sane.

>> No.12638884

>>12638875
I didn’t choose to be born here anon

>> No.12638904

>>12638884
Yet you could choose to die there

>> No.12638908

>>12630885
this. say i buy a bunch of cilantro and use it 3 meals in a row. now i'm sick of it and still have half the bunch left. i get damn tired of eating the same thing every day.
it's definitely cheaper but you have to deal with eating the same thing all the time. cooking has the most benefit for a large family with a dedicated stay at home mom. for a single person working fulltime it's still cheaper than eating out, but has significant downsides and isn't that much cheaper.

>>12634534
burger and shake is $20 now.

>> No.12638946

>>12638861
You're welcome.

It's all relative. If you get a pressed, processed meat "steak" at McD (they don't still serve these, but someplace must), it's going to be cheaper than preparing filet mignon at home, but generally restaurants need to mark the food up enough to pay for their education, the cooks, other staff, rent on the building, advertising, standard product loss, etc. Cooking at home eliminates all of those costs, and buying per unit as opposed to buying in bulk doesn't add enough to that cost to offset the savings.

>>12638878
Why do people keep calling me a boomer? Is it really so unrealistic that a millenial could possibly have his shit in order?

Stop throwing a temper tantrum. You get out of life what you put into it. If you don't have better, then chances are, it's because you haven't done anything to deserve better.

>>12638908
I bought some LED lights for keeping living herbs under. Worked out pretty well, so I put in a grow cabinet for tomatoes and spinach, two things that I buy in bulk and always seemed to go bad before I got to the end of it. Should cost about $15/mo and save me around $35 (I eat a lot of tomatoes and spinach) and it'll be fresher and organic, so I highly recommend at least considering it.

>> No.12638947

>>12630466
>if you make a pound of lobster for yourself it costs more than 2 cheeseburgers from mcdicks

>> No.12638983

if I averaged $6 a meal eating out, I'd spend $540 a month
currently spending about $150 a month on food and cook every day using fresh vegetables, fish, other meats, pasta dishes, soups, stir frys, sandwhiches, etc. No slouch on the ingredients either, using fresh herbs and oils

>> No.12639057

>>12638946
>have his shit in order
>thinks running grow lights for tomatoes and spinach is saving him money

>> No.12639092

>>12639057
He's likely growing some based weed at the same time to offset the cost of the electricity. Plus, the produce will be better enough in quality than the shit tomatoes and "fresh" herbs you get at groceries to be well worth the additional electric.

>> No.12639110

>>12638875
>flyover complains about CA being communist when his state govt. requires 40% federal tax money to even function which primarily comes from the 5th largest economy in the world, CA, and NYC
Oh the irony! LMAO!

>> No.12639111

>>12638946
I call you a boomer because you keep producing oodles of stale delusional boomer pasta.

>> No.12639124

>>12639092
If he has reefer madness then he shouldn't care what he's eating.

>> No.12639145

>>12638946
>just set up an indoor grow farm in your 167 sq ft poverty apartment you're renting from schlomo, i'm sure he won't mind the water damage and insects

>> No.12639165

>>12630227
What is this, do we have a millennial cooklet here?

>> No.12639252

>>12638946
>muh just world

>> No.12639260

Eat shit

>> No.12639269

>>12639057
300w x 14hr/day x 30 days x $0.0786 / 1000 = $9.90/mo

Cherry tomatoes ~$6/box x 6/mo $36

Savings of $27/mo

>inb4 b-but the cost of lights
About $300. That sees an ROI at less than a year. Fuck-ton better than a savings account.

>>12639111
Pasta is reused. These are all original observations.

>>12639252
Not always, but I stand by by statement. You get out of life what you put into it.

>> No.12639291

>>12639269
Yeah, what you put into it times a bunch other bullshit out of your control. There's people who've never worked a day in their lives being given millions, and people who put a lot of effort into things that aren't in demand so they don't get much.

>> No.12639319

>>12639124
Get with the times, Nancy Reagan!

>> No.12639337

>>12639291
>a bunch other bullshit out of your control.
If you're not in control of your own life, then you're doing it wrong.

I joined the military, worked hard, learned skills, invested wisely and now I operate a small business, part time.

You what? Knocked up some girl in highschool, got a shit job, bought things you didn't really need, turned to drugs and now you scream at people online who did it right? That's all you, man. Not your environment.

>> No.12639348

>>12639337
>Knocked up some girl in highschool
Holy shit you ARE a boomer lmfao

>> No.12639387

>>12639348
Are you the same Anon? Because it feels like you're running out of material, and so far all you've done to negatively affect me is making me get the bill out of my desk to check the actual electric rate I'm paying. You kinda suck at trolling.

>> No.12639390

I'm 230lb cooking at home takes fucking forever and is expensive to make enough

>> No.12639403

>>12630270
I do

>> No.12639435

>>12639390
I'm 230lb cooking at home is easy as fuck and much more affordable than eating out. Shut up and get good at cooking, faggot. Go out and exercise while you're at it.

>> No.12639449

>>12630387
why are you on a cooking board manlet

>> No.12639453

>>12639337
Quite the opposite really, I've put absolutely no effort into my life and I'm living what I consider to be a good life. Your whole theory breaks down when considering people like me.

>> No.12639515

>>12639453
Not really. Choosing to not do stupid shit that would put your lifestyle in jeopardy still takes effort. Even if all you have to do is stick it in a cougar.

>> No.12639630

>>12639515
I guess people "chose" to be enslaved, work in coal mines, or work in an industry that became obsolete. I wish I was also a prophet, so that I may know how the economy will turn out and plan my life accordingly.

>> No.12640082

>>12639630
It doesn't take prophecy, Anon. It takes common sense and hard work and not seeking relief from it through drugs, TV, gambling and other addictions. Those things just distract from attaining your goals.

>> No.12640202

>>12630466
Ah a fellow anon who eats only the finest beluga caviar and horse semen at home.

>> No.12640213

>>12630227
>garbage foods like Pizza, Burritos, Burgers, Hot Dogs and cheap corn cereal have a place in a university's cafeteria

Fucking burgers not investing in proper food for their educational institutions triggers me so hard.

>> No.12640280

>>12630227
>Not buying a 15 dollar roast with some onions and carrots and eating it over the course of 2 to 3 days
>Spending 8 dollars going to mcdonalds every night
Hmmm idk OP you just seem like a mouth breather to me.

>> No.12640460

>>12630227
It’s definitely cheaper.

>> No.12640711

>>12640202
Racing genetics aside, I would assume run of the mill farm horse semen would taste better than the expensive stuff, what will all the carrots and apple that farm horses eat.

Just sayin'

>> No.12640803

>>12632393
Just coming back to reply to some of my replies, but "a lot" of money is really a sliding scale. I make $45 an hour. Is saving even $45 at the end of the week's cooking really that worth it? Nah. Is it tastier? Probably not, I've been focusing on perfecting my craft so I can be educated on the next big thing in marketing tech instead of telling my CMO that I know how to make a better duck confit than the French place we own.

>>12632465
Why give this dude shit for not having friends or family who want "free food?" I am sure as fuck not wandering over to my buddy's house for a free portion of food, even though I love him, because eventually he's gonna want some shit back, and I cook when the timing suits me.

This board is food and cooking, not just "cook for yourself." Call us when you're not outnumbered by fast food and shitposting.

>> No.12640850

>>12640803
>I am sure as fuck not wandering over to my buddy's house for a free portion of food, even though I love him, because eventually he's gonna want some shit back, and I cook when the timing suits me.
That was the entire context of my post. See >>12637739 Dividing the chore and expense between two people, a friend, family member, room-mate, SO, something by alternating meals takes a lot of the burden off.

>> No.12641038

>>12632833
Agreed.

>>12633029
If I knew how to cook really well, and someone had taught me... maybe? If I had other people to feed... maybe?

>>12636064
I don't want to prepare in advance. I want to know that if I want a cheeseburger instead of chicken that night, I can do it without having to worry about throwing away food.

>>12636518
If I was struggling financially, no big deal. I have the money to not eat beef stew for multiple meals a week.

>>12637739
How many people do you know that have the time to cook for their own little weird friend group? How easily do you walk over to a friend's house? This is silly. I have a real, adult job. I don't have the time to commit to exchanging cooking...

It's all a ridiculous "if everything works perfect" solution.

>> No.12641116

>>12641038
>How many people do you know that have the time to cook for their own little weird friend group?
Every married couple that's dual-income, several couples that live together, a couple different houses full of dudes that are room-mates... I mean, I get that those people live under the same roof, but I used to have a neighbors in my old apartment building that we'd all do this. It didn't start getting chaotic until we added a fourth person who worked weird rotating shifts and we had to drop her. That was a shame, she was cute af.

>It's all a ridiculous "if everything works perfect" solution.
I'm guessing that "if there's any chance it'll fail, I don't want to put in the effort" attitude is why you're so bitter. You don't even try to do things that'll better your relationships.

>> No.12641177

>>12641116
I'm all for a married couple or family unit working together to make a meal for the evening... why wouldn't I be? If I packed into the same apartment building with someone (college bros or apartment neighbors)... maybe?

But what happens when those people are expecting me to provide dinner, and I get held up at work? When I get a sudden chance to go get drinks with a girl? When the gym takes long?

>I'm guessing that "if there's any chance it'll fail, I don't want to put in the effort" attitude is why you're so bitter. You don't even try to do things that'll better your relationships.
I'm guessing that the "share everything with everyone" folks don't realize that it's a 15 minute drive to get to my closest friend in my spread-out city, and that my neighbors are not single women with cooking time to spare, or the desire to spend each night at home alone.

>> No.12641183

>>12641177
wow bro your life really sucks huh

>> No.12641334

>>12632634
Why does your supermarket not have a butcher counter where you can buy whatever quantity you want? Same thing with a deli counter for sliced cheese?

>> No.12641554

>>12630227
>not throwing down money for basic ingredients (worcestershire, soy sauce, cooking wine, spices and seasonings,etc)
>not buying veggies that are in season to get your money's worth
>not buying cheaper cuts of meat and working around limitations
go ahead op, enjoy your frozen tendies, mom works hard to microwave them you fucking neanderthal