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>> No.12613218

Add beans

>> No.12613221

add beans

>> No.12613231

>>12613205
post chili tits

>> No.12613382

omit beans

>> No.12613398

season the beanwater

>> No.12613409

>>12613205
Definitely use different chilis. It should be spicy, but a slow burn. Lots of low heat on the aeromatics, you can also add dark chocolate, coffee, and others. It depends if you're doing ground beef chili or chunk chili. Ground beef needs beans, obviously. And the day after will be better than the day of, always.

>> No.12613425

>>12613205
Skip beans unless your a flyover, tastelet or degenerate

>> No.12613472
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>> No.12613545

>>12613205
use actual chilis. a mix of fresh and dried. also use several different kinds of meat. and i hope that i don't need to tell you to skip the beans.

>> No.12613561

heat your spices in oil like you would a curry and then add them to the chili

>> No.12613598

>>12613205
Make it at 2am

>> No.12613670

>>12613218
>>12613221
fpbp

>> No.12613981
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Use a variety of dried mexican chili peppers, if you want heat the arbols have some but that's best achieved with fresh habaneros, serranos or jalapenos. Rehydrate in a beef stock. Rough grind a 50/50 beef/pork mix for the meat and add partially cooked pinto beans for the last hour.

The texasfag no bean, meat chunk chili is what I would use for burritos, tacos or enchiladas but to eat a bowl full is not appetizing whatsoever. It's literally just a guisado that wh*te cowfuckers appropriated and claimed as a new thing.

>> No.12614002

>>12613205
cubed seared tri-tip
homemade chili paste from blend of mexican peppers
can of chipotle in adobo sauce

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>>12613205

>> No.12614300

Masa Harina for Corn flavoring and THICCness.

>> No.12614303

Have beans

>> No.12614313

>>12614300
why tho? just eat it with corn chips or corn bread

>> No.12614338

>>12613205
Substitute everything for beans, even the chilies, just make mild beans with a side of beans and grate some dried beans on top

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>>12613981
>The texasfag no bean, meat chunk chili is what I would use for burritos, tacos or enchiladas but to eat a bowl full is not appetizing whatsoever. It's literally just a guisado that wh*te cowfuckers appropriated and claimed as a new thing.

preach it anon, beans arnd tomato are fundamental to a nice bowl of chili

>> No.12614367

>>12613981
>>12614359
i am texan and i love beans in my chili :)

>> No.12614375

>>12613205
S T A R A N I S E

It’s great for beef stews and other soups.

>> No.12614613

>>12614375
fresh cumin roasted and ground up fresh is also nice. never tried anus though

>> No.12614638

>>12613425
I'm all three and i bet my chilis better than yours. The key is the great northern bean, king of all beans by right.

>> No.12614646

>>12613218
fpwp

beanfags OUT

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>>12614646
anti beanfags are the absolute most retarded cretins to ever exist, wotse then the reddit anti ham/pineapple pizzafags. just regurgitating somebodies else's fake edgy opinion not evebn realizing its was a pathetic attempt at sarcastic humor.

>> No.12614786

>>12613598
bases

>> No.12614799

>>12614786
>>12614786
no

>> No.12614807

>>12614367
based wholesome post

>> No.12614828

I don't like meat or beans, so... just the peppers please.

>> No.12614838 [DELETED] 

>>12613218
>>12613221
>>12614303
>>12614338
>>12614359
>>12614367
Sneed

>> No.12614874

Add coffee.

>> No.12614878
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>>12614838

>> No.12614883

>>12614874
this, it gives it a flavor middle ground

>> No.12615443

>>12614375
more like star anus lol fuckin fag

>> No.12615449

>>12613205
Add raisins.

>> No.12615478

>>12613205
chicken liver and msg

>> No.12615488

made my last semi-experimental chili with half beef/half chicken mince with some piri-piri and it was fantastic

>> No.12615521

>>12613205
Once it's coming together and you're sure the meat is cooked, taste it. See what it needs. Most problematic recipes, and even some outright mistakes can be fixed by noticing a lack and filling it.

>> No.12615530

>>12615449
or cascabels... adds a bit of heat with a very raisiny flavour.

>> No.12615591

>>12613205
If it's five alarm, don't put your tip in it.

>> No.12615601

>>12614828
>>12614874
>>12615449
>>12615478
>>12615530
I'm uninviting myself from chili night at your houses.

>> No.12615759

>>12615530
Thx! I will try!

>> No.12615777

>>12613205
Get a smoker.
Start that bitch up and add some hickory, mesquite, or cherry.

Start your chilli (use your favorite recipe) by lightly sauteing the onions, peppers, and spices
Pour this, your tomatoes/tomato products, beans, etc. into a disposable aluminum chafing dish and mix it up.
Put into smoker below the grills or on a lower shelf.

Make a large beef patty (use a 50/50 mix of ground sirloin [90/10] and ground chuck [80/20]).
Put into smoker over the chilli.
Let that fucker smoke for a few hours with all those delicious drippings going directly into the chilli
Crumble the smoked beef into the chilli.
Smoked Chilli.

Want to kick it up a notch? Fuck ground beef; smoke a cut of beef like a chuck, round, or rump roast.
Smoke it for at least 4 hours before putting in the chilli underneath for the last hour or so.
Shred the beef into the chilli.

>> No.12616165

2 tablespoons of liquid smoke

>> No.12616483

real chili is made out of chili paste, not tomato with a tiny bit of chili powder in it. when you make your chili this way you will realize that there's no room for beans in it.

>> No.12617379

>>12616483
they are two different things, true texas chili is chunk steak in pepper sauce and its great but actual chili that common people think of is made with beans and tomatoes and is just as good on a cold night

>> No.12618639

>>12616165
that stuff never tastes right, just use some smoked chipotle and BBQ the meat like >>12614223 said, it will come out much better

>> No.12618654

>>12615530
>cascabels
>adds a bit of heat
was this post sarcasm?

>> No.12618938

>>12613205
Fuck off I'll read the file names if I want to

>> No.12618969

>>12618938
kek

>> No.12619014

>>12613205
use chorizo instead of beef

>> No.12619032

>>12619014
>chorizo
why not both?

>> No.12619037

>>12619032
the flavors clash

>> No.12619038

>>12619032
alternative: beef flavored with chorizo spice which is easy to make

>> No.12619056

>>12616483
This.

I have no problems with putting beans in a ground meat, cheap ass chili that I just threw together for a cheap meal. HOWEVER, when I go to make some real chili, not slop, beans have no place in it. For a reason. People will never understand this unless they learn to make real Texas Red. If you're just slopping together ground meat and chili powder with tomatoes and shit, go ahead and add your beans. But you need to understand the difference between that and real chili. Both are a good meal, though.

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As far as adding beans goes, these are the ONLY acceptable canned beans to add. Anything else is fucking garbage tier.

>> No.12619087

>>12619037
clash my ass, the pork takes over and the beef is just extra filler that inherits the pork flavor. especially when you toss chunked BBQ'ed hamburgers in, instead of just browned ground beef

>> No.12619119

>>12619087
>t. tastelet

>> No.12619275

>>12619119
>poser

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>>12613205
I like rib tips, would I like these??

>> No.12619486

>>12615601
>doesn't realize coffee is just another bean
the anti bully movement was a mistake

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>>12613205
No beans.

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I don't care if someone's chili has beans in it, but I really don't get what the appeal to adding beans is. Most of the time it just seems like filler taking the place of what could have been more meat instead.

>> No.12619583

>>12613205
Try turkey chili heh

>> No.12619590
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>>12613205
add cofe

>> No.12619599

>>12613205
heh using ground turkey heh

>> No.12619628

>>12619580
I read this on this board I think, but someone said that if you have ground meat in chili you put beans to fill it out texture wise. If you have chunks of meat in chili then no beans. I’ve yet to try it but it seems sensible.

>> No.12619635

>>12613205
add hard boiled eggs

>> No.12620943

>>12619635
STFU edgefag

>> No.12620965

How do you keep the kale crunchy in your chili?

>> No.12621070

>>12620965
refer to >>12620943

>> No.12621181

>>12621070
Never heard of white chili? Try more things.

>> No.12621422

>>12621181
i've tried many things, verity doesn't mean good. White chili is shit, quit trying to be different, it doesn't make you interesting, it just makes you an asshole that eats gorse shit

>> No.12621736

I make mine with black beans and corn. I use beer instead of water. I also cook it twice. Cook overnight in crock pot. One day in fridge. Next morning heat again in crock pot for a few hours before eating.

>> No.12622951

>>12613231
why the fuck did i luagh?

>> No.12623095

>>12621181
Disgusting.

>> No.12623260

>>12619580
Some people like the variety, but yes the intent is mainly to cut costs.
>>12619628
This too, but you should also make a puree if you're using chunks of meat to finish rounding out the texture.

>> No.12623864

>>12623260
>intent is mainly to cut costs.
i wholeheartedly disagree

>> No.12623881

>>12623864
What else could they be for? Seems like a clear example of vegetable filler.

>> No.12624027

>>12623881
you add different things to many dishes its kinda the point of recipes or do you eat all your food deconstructed? and they add some fiber so its not just a meat clot

>> No.12624116

>>12624027
>you add different things to many dishes
The absolute state of bean apologists.
>they add some fiber
I hate the fiber meme so much.
Incidentally if anyone reading this ever ends up with bad GI problems, don't make the same mistakes we all do at first by increasing fiber intake like modern folk health notions would have you believe is helpful.
The fucked up reality that GI docs all know and will point out to you when increasing fiber inevitably makes things worse is that you're supposed to do the opposite and go with a low residue diet of minimal fiber if you want to stop agitating an inflamed intestinal tract.
Fiber is way overhyped and doesn't have nearly as much of the benefits people imagine it does. At best it can be helpful if you have constipation since it provides extra undigested material that can push crap through. Even for this one thing it's plausibly functional for though there's surprisingly little good evidence to its efficacy:
https://www.health.harvard.edu/newsletter_article/Chronic_constipation_reconsidered
>Increasing fiber intake may not help, and could make matters worse. A high-fiber diet makes stool softer and increases its bulk — in healthy people. So if the problem is new and seems temporary, the textbook advice to increase fiber intake makes some sense. But studies of fiber for chronic constipation have been inconsistent. It may help some, but others get worse symptoms from high fiber intake.

>> No.12624217

>>12624116
t. Keto terrorist

>> No.12624233

>>12621422
beat your mother, she sabotaged your palate
now go have a donut and gummy bears sweetheart

>> No.12624255

>>12624116
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3257631/

>A large amount of research has reported an inverse relationship between fiber consumption and the risk for coronary heart disease and several types of cancer. For that reason, the FDA has adopted and published the claim that increased consumption of dietary fiber can reduce the prevalence of coronary heart diseases and cancer. The mechanisms behind these findings are still unclear. However, it is thought to be attributed to several factors including increasing bile acid excretion, decreased caloric intake, increased short chain fatty acid production, carcinogen binding effects, increased antioxidants, and increased vitamins and minerals.

>Although not as yet adopted by the FDA, dietary fiber is suggested to play a role in other conditions such as obesity and diabetes. Although some data are contradictory, a majority of studies regarding dietary fiber report a decrease of these two conditions with increased consumption of fiber.

>The digestive and viscosity characteristics of dietary fiber are the likely modes of action which affect diabetes and obesity risk. These mechanisms appear to decrease nutrient absorption, therefore, decreasing metabolizable energy. Dietary fiber may also be able to decrease gross energy of a food due to its lower energy density.

>> No.12624268

>>12624217
I actually hate ketotards. Fiber being a meme doesn't mean you fell for the "modern keto treatment for drug resistant childhood epilepsy bastardized into atkins 2.0" fad.

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>>12624255
>These mechanisms appear to decrease nutrient absorption, therefore, decreasing metabolizable energy. Dietary fiber may also be able to decrease gross energy of a food due to its lower energy density.
It's really fucked up how something *interfering with* digestion is considered a positive nowadays, such is the extent of the obesity epidemic.

>> No.12624286

Use tomato paste

>> No.12624448

>>12624286
As long as you're not using tomato paste as an excuse to shortcut simmering

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>>12613218
>>12613221
>>12613981
>>12614303
>>12614359
>>12624027
Dang it, anons.
>>12624255
>The digestive and viscosity characteristics of dietary fiber are the likely modes of action which affect diabetes and obesity risk. These mechanisms appear to decrease nutrient absorption, therefore, decreasing metabolizable energy. Dietary fiber may also be able to decrease gross energy of a food due to its lower energy density.
lol
>>12624281
>It's really fucked up how something *interfering with* digestion is considered a positive nowadays, such is the extent of the obesity epidemic.
^This. I don't think you realized the implications there. The paper is literally arguing for benefits from fiber causing nutrient malabsorption. You could find the same benefits if you look for any factor that results in your group of interest weighing less because of how much being overweight is a massive driver of health problems.
You might as well use that as a reason to advocate for stimulants, or laxatives, or high school bullying.

>> No.12625424

>>12613205
>beans
That's not chili, that's faggot sauce.

>> No.12625455

>>12624281
>>12625409
>there is only one type of diabetes
I bet you also think that theres only one type of fiber too. also
>completely ignoring the heart benefits and only focusing on the way it makes food process

(stimulants aren't particularly good for heart health, neither is high school bullying)

>> No.12625465

>>12625455
Nutrient malabsorption isn't particularly good for health either. It's the correlation with subjects who weight less that your benefits are coming from. That's the point.
>there is only one type of diabetes
Who claimed that?

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>>12625455

You gotta admit this is a hilarious line in what's supposed to be an argument for health benefits:

>These mechanisms appear to decrease nutrient absorption, therefore, decreasing metabolizable energy.

>> No.12625499

>>12625465
Oh I'm sorry, you conveniently forgot about the benefits to people with diabetes due to things they cannot control to pretend that the paper only implies benefits for lard asses.

Also forgot the heart health and cancer stuff too. Nope the only benefit to fiber is that it makes you shit out food. If you ignore everything else in the paper thats the only thing it says.

>> No.12625527

>>12625455
>>12625499
>m-muh type 1
Not sure what your point is here. Not that anyone said type 1 diabetes doesn't exist to begin with, but 95% of diabetes cases are type 2. So it's a silly complaint to bring up that people aren't talking about it. And the paper YOU QUOTED concluded the mechanism for fiber's correlation with health benefits was likely because of nutrient malabsorption.
If you don't like that conclusion you could have easily just not posted it.

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>>12624116
>>12624281
Based and low residue diet pilled.
>>12625455
>>12625499
Yikes and insane Seventh-day Adventist attempt to discourage masturbation that somehow caught on as a health meme pilled.

>> No.12625574

>>12625527
>Dietary fiber consists of many different constituents, however; some are of particular interest and include arabinoxylan, inulin, β-glucan, pectin, bran and resistant starches. These individual components of dietary fiber have been shown to significantly play an important role in improving human health.

>A large amount of research has reported an inverse relationship between fiber consumption and the risk for coronary heart disease and several types of cancer. For that reason, the FDA has adopted and published the claim that increased consumption of dietary fiber can reduce the prevalence of coronary heart diseases and cancer. The mechanisms behind these findings are still unclear. However, it is thought to be attributed to several factors including increasing bile acid excretion, decreased caloric intake, increased short chain fatty acid production, carcinogen binding effects, increased antioxidants, and increased vitamins and minerals.

Read the paper before telling me what it says and please for the love of god don't try to say that " increasing bile acid excretion, increased short chain fatty acid production, carcinogen binding effects, increased antioxidants, and increased vitamins and minerals." is the same as malabsorption

>> No.12625647

>>12625574
>decreased caloric intake
How is decreased caloric intake not nutrient malabsorption? And it's not like I'm going out on a limb here and making some bizarre subjective interpretation.
Gonna keep mentioning this conclusion from your post it continues to be relevant:
>The digestive and viscosity characteristics of dietary fiber are the likely modes of action which affect diabetes and obesity risk. These mechanisms appear to decrease nutrient absorption, therefore, decreasing metabolizable energy.
>increasing bile acid excretion
Fiber does that by taking the place of actual food and binding to the bile acid that's there, promoting more bile acid production to replace it. It's the same fucking idea. That's what fiber does. It's a non-food that takes up space, hopefully promotes bowel movements in those who are constipated, and fucks with normal digestion so you aren't digesting as much (like your paper explicitly points out).
>increased short chain fatty acid production
That one's more convoluted, but the basic idea is fiber sits there in your colon and ferments, with the bacteria doing the fermentation releasing those SCFAs as a byproduct. It's role in colon health is pretty controversial and weakly supported though e.g.:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12737858
>Dietary fibre is thought to protect against colorectal cancer but this view has been challenged by recent prospective and intervention studies that showed no protective effect
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9895396
>After adjustment for age, established risk factors, and total energy intake, we found no association between the intake of dietary fiber and the risk of colorectal cancer
Hopefully you're getting the idea here. There are benefits, but amusingly they come from fiber taking the place of actual food. That's all I'm pointing out.

>> No.12625662

>>12625647
>There are benefits, but amusingly they come from fiber taking the place of actual food. That's all I'm pointing out.

What the fuck do you think the argument is about? If you eat fiber with your regular food it comes with benefits.

Also the study linked in the paper was about breast cancer. Here have another study that shows this, this time from the same source as the first study posted. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/higher-dietary-fiber-intake-in-young-women-may-reduce-breast-cancer-risk/
(it links the study

>> No.12625667

>>12613205
Part of the world chili cook off is that they post the winning recipes every year.

>> No.12625669

>>12613205
Bloody Mary mix

>> No.12625676

>>12625647
I'm going to redact this hostility and stuff I posted here >>12625662 thank you for helping me to conclude that adding beans to chili has positive health benefits.

Much appreciated.

>> No.12625679

>>12625676
Is the joke that you're saying you stopped being hostile and just switched to passive-aggressive hostility instead?

>> No.12625698

>>12625679
Nah I'm trying to bring the debate to a close. I have stuff to do tomorrow and stayed up all night in an internet argument over the benefits of a diet high in dietary fiber is not an excuse that will really fly when I'm trying to function. You get me?

I'm going to keep putting beans in chili and eating a diet high in fiber and I would recommend others to do the same. Also >>12619069 is the most patrician in the thread. Those complete a good chili OP if you're still here.

>> No.12625709

>>12625698
Yeah, well when you thank someone for helping you realize you're right and they're wrong that's actually still hostility FYI.

>> No.12626439

>>12613205
Dont add garlic, what you do is roast it separately and serve as a side dish to chili.