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Reusable "ice" cubes

Yes or no?

>> No.12536236

Ice Cubes watering down the drink is not a bug it's a feature

>> No.12536238

>>12536236
this

>> No.12536244

>>12536228
Nothing has the same heat capacity as ice, therefore cannot effectively cool your beverage as well.

>> No.12536436

>>12536228

Na, I just poured a glass of wine and I chill it by putting it into the freezer for 6 mins.

Its like 80 degrees in here so it does not make it very cold in 6 mins. It just brings it to a nice drinking temp

>> No.12536453

>>12536228
my sister bought plastic "reusable ice cubes" and after like 3 or 4 uses they started to smell terrible and make anything you put them in undrinkable
for me, it's real ice

>> No.12536502

>>12536228
Absolutely not. They're nowhere near as convenient as bagged ice, and they barely cool your drink down at all. Stay away.

>> No.12536514

Ice cubes cool a drink by melting; not merely by being cold.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latent_heat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enthalpy_of_fusion

>> No.12536739
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>>12536228
why yes!
eco friendly and im looking forward to the next wave of ice tech. are these morphers?

>> No.12536757

>>12536739
BASED

>> No.12536780
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I got the whiskey glasses and stones with Yakuza 6.

They keep a scotch nice and cool, but not too cold for long enough to finish it.

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>>12536739
xd

>> No.12536935

>>12536228
>>12536236
>>12536238
You guys have reached levels of contrarianism not even God Himself thought was possible.

>> No.12536963

>>12536228
The enrgy needed to melt ice is much greater than the energy needed to warm up something of a similar size. They do not cool down as much and for as long
Just get used to puting things in your fridge

>> No.12536980

>>12536228
Hell no! The phase transition solid - > liquid is endothermic and the whole key to the chilling properties of ice.

>> No.12536995

>>12536935
Based retard, once again proving /ck/ knows fuck all about alcohol.

>> No.12537027

>>12536228
I put cups into the freezer instead

>> No.12537046

>>12536780
I preordered that set. Found out real quick its for Display only. The glasses and coasters are cheap garbage. The top printed part of the coaster peeled off after a couple uses and the glasses are shit. The glass is uneven and has pockets. The rocks it came with are okay. Literally the only reason I spent a benjamin on the damn thing.

>> No.12537050

>>12536739
Absolutely baste

>> No.12537151

>>12537046
The coasters are cheap, yes, but my glasses seem fine. They're bog standard factory-made whiskey tumblers with laser-etched designs.

They're serviceable, but not as good as a decent $50 crystal set.

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>>12536228
absolutely not
heat capacity of ice alone is already 5 times higher than heat capacity of ~2 J/gK, water is even higher with ~2 J/gK vs. ~0.4 J/gK (steel)
and that's not counting melting enthalpy ~300 J/g

assuming -10°C ice and 20°C drink, you can absorb some 200 J/g with ice + 300 J/g from ice melting + 800 J/g with cold water vs. 12 J/g with steel
you need more than 100g of steel to get the same effect as 1g of ice
now given the steel density of 8g/cm^3 and ice having density of 1g/cm^3, you'd need about 13 cubes of steel to have the same effect as 1 cube of ice of the same volume

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>>12536228 (OP)
absolutely not
heat capacity of ice alone is already 5 times higher than heat capacity of steel for example. Ice has capacity of 2 J/gK, water has even higher ~4 J/gK vs. ~0.4 J/gK (steel)
and that's not counting melting enthalpy ~300 J/g

assuming temperatures -10°C for ice and 20°C for drink, you can absorb some 200 J/g with ice + 300 J/g from ice melting + 800 J/g with cold water = 1300J/g vs. 12 J/g with steel
you need more than 100 g of steel to get the same effect as 1 g of ice
now given the steel density of 8 g/cm^3 and ice having density of 1 g/cm^3, you'd need about 13 cubes of steel to have the same effect as 1 cube of ice of the same volume.

>> No.12537391

>>12537358
OP btfo for eternity
>>12536935
I'm gay and stupid btw not sure if that matters guys

>> No.12537579

>>12536739
Kek

>> No.12537589

>>12536228
I have those same mercury cubes

>> No.12537934

for me its single use plastic ice trays

>> No.12537945

Just freeze whatever liquid you want to drink into cubes and it wont water the drink down.

>> No.12537970

>>12537358
This, would only work if the cubes are filled with water that could then be frozen allowing them to melt without watering down the drink.

>> No.12538028

>>12536244
Are you aware that some things have a higher specific heat capacity? For the most part though using things like frozen grapes is a bout the same as water in terms of specific heat

>> No.12538047

>>12536244
Silicon has about 6 times the heat of fusion, not that that's too useful for cooling drinks.

The Arctic Core and Franmara Steel Ice cubes have water+antifreeze cores. Will cool okay, but seems like a recipe for broken teeth and broken glass.

>> No.12538062

>>12536228
>put solid meta/stone into your delicate glassware
>it cracks the glass
haha get rekt

>> No.12538129

>>12536739
cringe

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>>12538129
found the soyboy

>> No.12538697

>>12538165
incel

>> No.12538877

>>12536228
am actually curious if these would be good for whiskey. I hate the taste of watered down bourbon but I also want it to be cool (but not freezer cold) and I'd rather not keep my bottles in the fridge.

>> No.12538903

>>12538877
they're kinda shit
unless you dump about 6 in your glass

>> No.12538923

>>12538903
that's unfortunate. anything else you'd recommend other than just sticking my bottle in the fridge?

>> No.12538937

>>12538028
very few things have a specific heat higher than water, and none of them are common or something that you would want to put in your beverage, brainlet

also most of the cooling comes from the huge amount of energy required for water's entropy of fusion, not increasing the ice's temperature from -20C to 0C

>> No.12538956

>>12536228
No, because chewing softened ice is one of my few pleasures in life

>> No.12538959

>>12538956
t. anorexic

>> No.12538960

>>12538923
keep it in the freezer
There does exist beer can holders that can keep a beer ice cold for an hour, there's probably cups for mixed drink too

>> No.12538967

>>12536739
I hate that meme but I laughed

>> No.12538979

>>12538959
I wish

>> No.12539004

>>12538960
I've tried putting liquor in the freezer. it dulls the taste and is too cold. just rather it be cool. I actually own a plastic whiskey glass that has this "gel" in it that freezes. it's designed to keep drinks cold but in general it doesn't keep it cold any longer than a normal glass. oh well

>> No.12539023

>>12536228
No. I typically add water to a lot of beverages because their flavor alone is too pronounced, whether it be too sugary, too sour or whatever. When I was younger I didn't mind this, but now that I'm going on 40, my tastebuds and teeth don't enjoy it as much and I like the water-down effect of regular ice cubes.

>> No.12539333

drink it warm

>> No.12539336

>>12539023
this is odd because you don't have as strong a taste now as you did then.

what the fuck are you doing on 4chan nearing 40 anyway? get a fucking job and start a family, jesus christ.

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It appears my supitiority has lead to some controversy!

>> No.12539402

>>12536935
>he has to go straight to God for his authority when thinking about ice cubes
God help you is all I can say

>> No.12539433

>>12539399
If you meant superiority, I would be embarrassed; because this proves you have none.

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>>12536228

but why?

>> No.12539463

>>12536228
good for beer I guess

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>>12539463
>ice cubes in beer
Gulag for this one, eh?

>> No.12539840

>>12539333
based

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12539851

>purposely drinking plastic/metal instead of just making an ice cube in your freezer

>> No.12539913

>>12536739
you are such a faggot

>> No.12539922

>>12537358
Thanks for repeating your first year science lesson, but the phase change still happens, with identical thermodynamics, its just contained within the thin metal walls of the "cubes".
Its within a few percent identical cooling capacity of real ice, and useful only in specialty scenarios where ice melt water is not desired.
Basically only faggot aficionados have a reason to own these, the rest of us just use ice or keep shit in the fridge.
But wow, its impressive you just finished first year chemistry and could state the obvious, yet still miss the point completely.

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12540278

Reminder that if you drink your beer or whiskey chilled one way or another, it's because you don't actually like the taste and need to dumb your tastebuds.

>> No.12540290

You're not supposed to put ice on your wine, just put the entire bottle in ice. This way it will cool without ruining the flavour

>> No.12540456

>>12540278
Some beers are meant to be drunk cold you uncultured swine.

>> No.12540458

>>12536236
absolutely this, I never order drinks with ice since they usually come cooled already anyways

>> No.12540508

>>12536228
Just put some grapes in freezer if you need to chill wine.
Anything else it doesn't matter.

>> No.12540514

>>12537358
>>12539922
when ice freezes it just gets harder
when steel freezes it gets colder than really cold steel
get fucked darwinfags

>> No.12540745

>>12540456
Yeah that's because they taste too bad to be drunk otherwise.

>> No.12540763

>>12536228
Scam.
Heat capacity about 40 times worse than standard ice cubes. Filling the glass with these 'reusable' ice cubes to the brim provides less cooling than a single standard ice cube does.

>> No.12540767

>>12539922
he was obviously talking about solid metal cubes and not ones which are filled with water or whatever. you're being just as much of a smartass as he was and i can guarantee a lot of people don't understand the relationship between chilling and melting with ice

>> No.12540775

>>12536739
This is the first funny thing you've made. Have another (You) on me

>> No.12541126

>>12536228
Not bad if you have it already but a waste of money.

>> No.12541329

>>12540763
You people are fucking stupid.
YOU NEED TO REALIZE THESE ARE NOT BLOCKS OF SOLID STEEL. THEY ARE THIN METAL SHELLS FULL OF WATER, USUALLY WITH A THICK GELLING AGENT SO THEY DONT FEEL WEIRD AND SLOSH AROUND. THE HEAT CAPACITY IS THE FUCKING SAME

>> No.12541408

>>12536436

Good God, it's like aliteral animal is using the internet

>> No.12541986

>>12536780
that glass is pretty based. probably the only collectors edition I have seen with shit you can actually appreciate and use

>> No.12542358

>>12541329
C-calm down!

>> No.12542701

>>12540278
Sometimes I don't want my tastebuds slammed with a strong whiskey flavor and instead want a more relaxed drinking experience. I don't want to always have to think about what I'm drinking.

>> No.12542705

>>12536228
Nigga just freeze grapes. They don’t water down your drink and you can eat them after.