Raw

[Anonymous No.12477856]

Straight from the farm.
I'm going to go get some tomorrow, what am I in for?

[Anonymous No.12477868]

>>12477856
diarrhea

[Anonymous No.12477874]

>>12477856
delicious if somewhat unfamiliar tasting milk

[Anonymous No.12477888]

>>12477874
I hope so.
We used to get raw milk delivered every night in glass bottles from the milk truck, but I haven't heard the song it played in over 20 years now.
I'm not even sure I can remember the tune anymore.

[Anonymous No.12477904]

Why do you niggers think pasteurization is bad? Do you even understand what the process is? It doesn't decrease the quality of the milk at all. If you just think it's bad because it's "processed" or some other boomer shit you're fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.12477919]

>>12477904

Nobody said any of this. You sound mentally unstable.

[Anonymous No.12477930]

>>12477904
>It doesn't decrease the quality of the milk at all.
It kills all of the microbes in the milk.
What you're left with is little more than water, a little calcium and some fat.

[Anonymous No.12477957]

>>12477930
>Cooking steak kills all the microbes. All you're left with is decaying flesh, blood, and fat

[Anonymous No.12477976]

>>12477957
Milk contains beneficial microbes that we've been drinking for 8,000 years.
Steak, does not.
>decaying flesh, blood, and fat
I would have said tasty flesh, iron, protein and fat.
And most processed foods ARE shit. It's always been about profit margins and pushing growth for the investors. Pasteurizing milk is far cheaper than taking proper care of a cow.

[Anonymous No.12477994]

Raw milk tastes delicious but goes bad immediately after opening. I wish they sold them in pints instead of half gals.

[Anonymous No.12477997]

>>12477930
Yeah sure, go pick up your kids from soccer, dumbass

[Anonymous No.12478002]

>>12477856
Listeria

[Anonymous No.12478006]

>>12477997
You're saying it doesn't?

[Anonymous No.12478264]

I thought that was two seagul friends in a basket

[Anonymous No.12478289]

>>12478006
Do you believe vaccines are bad?

[Anonymous No.12478296]

Raw milk is the best thing to use for car milk, try it OP

[Anonymous No.12478307]

>>12477904
I personally am looking for a good source of raw milk because I'm making my own cheese. I currently use calcium citrate to make up the difference, but I'd rather not. You can hardly find it in my area (plenty of farms) for less than $10 a gallon.

[Anonymous No.12478317]

>>12477874
this

[Anonymous No.12478329]

>>12477856
Tastes really good. Buy a quantity you'll finish in less than a week and make sure you have a proper cooler to keep it cold on the way home. The colder the milk is kept the more retarded bacterial growth will be. Keeping colonies low is the name of the game

T. Grew up on a dairy drinking raw milk
>>12477904
Tastes better and properly handled the risk is almost nonexistent. I do not recommend buying raw in a store but OP is going straight to the farm so he's doing it right. I'm not going to pound the table for some kinda health claim because all that shit gets murky and there's too much correlations blah blah blah junk science on both sides to make a compelling argument either way, but the difference in flavor is obvious and substantial. Its basically like eating sushi or a rare steak sure theoretically there's a risk inherent but in practice it poses little threat to a healthy individual.

[Anonymous No.12479852]

>>12478289
No
>>12478296
I'll tell my mechanic
>>12478307
That's about the price I'm going to pay but they have extra regulations to allow them to sell it Raw
More frequent inspections, higher cleanliness requirements etc. How much cheese does a gallon make anyway?
>>12478329
hmmm, it's only 35km away ~half an hour but you can get cooler bags made for wine bottles for cheap from the supermarket, they would hold the glass bottles nicely come to think, thanks

[Anonymous No.12479867]

>>12477856
>what am I in for?

Listeria. You are in for listeria. Report back from beyond the grave pls.

[Anonymous No.12479873]

>>12477856
is it not even gone trough homogenization? Then be ready for the disgusting and fatty skin, Pfui Deibel!

[Anonymous No.12479920]

>>12479867
Listeria and other typical food poisoning diseases are the least of it. Brucellosis, tuberculosis and typhoid fever were common diseases caused by raw milk before pasteurization. It's probably ok in europe, but given the lack of regulation of the agricultural industry and the general filthiness of amerimutts, it would likely be extremely risky in muttland.

[The_Baker pt. II !!VyIROBcMkwf No.12479922]

Former dairy Farmer here.

Raw vs pasteurized is less important to taste than quality overall. Find a local dairy farm that treats their cows well and you'll get some great milk, pasteurized and all.

I wouldn't classify drinking raw milk as super risky, but there is cow shit in all milk, and if your body isn't used to handling the resulting microbes, you might be in for an unpleasant bathroom experience every few months.

[Anonymous No.12479935]

>>12477856

a bout of listeriosis

[Anonymous No.12479970]

>>12479920
What is with the seething europoors on this board?

[Anonymous No.12480032]

>>12479970
Dunno. The silly geese seem to think that the European "Mad Cow Disease" cow industry is better than the US.

[Anonymous No.12480050]

botulism

[Anonymous No.12480057]

I remember my farmer father telling me about how raw milk had a thick blob of milk-fat that'd plug the top of a bottle. This stuff was supposedly something worthy of him and his brother fighting over who gets it. I'd be curious to know if you have this experience and what it tastes like.

[Anonymous No.12480077]

>>12480057
it taste like milky fat but the consistency is horrible it is like extra thick skin of an unflavoured pudding

[Anonymous No.12480679]

At the farm getting some milk.
They have this dispenser setup and another vending machine thing for the glass bottles.
I only got one cos I didn't have enough coins, the machines don't take eftpos and the bottles were $5ea... pretty expensive, I guess you can use them forever and glass cleans better than reusing a plastic supermarket one.
The cows looked good but a bit cold, a little snow on the ground

[Anonymous No.12480686]

Back with my titty juice
Smells like normal silver top milk, you can see the fat and cream stuck in the bottle

[Anonymous No.12480693]

>>12479922
Thank you

I am glad i don't drink milk

[Anonymous No.12480708]

>>12477856
>what am I in for?
This, if you are int he wrong state.

[Anonymous No.12480712]

>>12477904
>pasteurization is bad?
If you want to make your own good cheese, you need raw milk.

[Anonymous No.12480719]

>>12480077
Eww. Gross dad. He'd always talk about it like it was the prize of the bottle.

[Anonymous No.12480722]

What the fuck, most of you guys are liars
That is the sweetest creamiest milk I've ever had, it's like a milkshake
Pasteurized milk tastes nothing like this at all

>>12480708
I don't live in that shithole, if I did I wouldn't trust farmers enough to drink it raw, except maybe the Amish

[Anonymous No.12480723]

>>12479922
>Raw vs pasteurized is less important to taste than quality overall.
If you hold the milk a few days it can mature in flavor pretty nicely. There's a special flavor that butter will when made from such milk that just isn't there in the store bought stuff since like the 80s. Also, if there's cow shit in your milk it is because you are failing at your job. I wouldn't trust raw milk from other people's farms SPECIFICALLY because of absolute dumbshits like you.

[Anonymous No.12480732]

>>12477976
>Pasteurizing a milk is far cheaper than taking proper care of a cow.
You forgot to say that it is safer and better too

[Anonymous No.12480774]

>>12480732
>safer and better
That's only true for American style battery and feedlot farms but those are illegal in first world countries

[Anonymous No.12480784]

>>12477976
>that unnecessary comma
Good attempt removing the reddit spacing, but you're still obvious

[Anonymous No.12480785]

Part time worker on dairy farm here, I've drunk raw milk every day for 15 years. I can't really tell the difference to pasteurised. Maybe a slight difference.

>>12480077
>>12480686
That layer of fat sits on top and helps seal the milk from the oxygen. If you keep bottles of it in your fridge with the fat on, it'll last a week or two, no problem. You just shake the bottle well before you use it and it all gets mixed, or take it off the top and whip/turn into icecream/butter if you save up enough

[Anonymous No.12480800]

wish i could get raw milk in my state after learning pasteurized milk is just glorified sugar water with some fat in it

[Anonymous No.12480829]

>>12480784
You niggers will call anything out.

[Anonymous No.12480832]

>>12480800
The heat doesn't destroy the vitamins or minerals in any way. Look it up. I used to buy into that too. It's a lie that's raw milk drinkers spread. It does however destroy the probiotics, which isn't so bad. I make up for it with home made kefir tho

[Anonymous No.12480844]

>>12479922
>Former dairy Farmer here.
>Former

>there is cow shit in all milk
>said the Former dairy Farmer

[Anonymous No.12480852]

>>12480832
>heat doesn't destroy the vitamins

Cooking may cause detrimental loss of vitamin D, but it depends on the actual foodstuffs and the heating process.

[Anonymous No.12480864]

>>12480852
In other words it's not specific to the pasteurization of milk and your post was a huge waste of everyone's time?

[Anonymous No.12480893]

>>12477888
>boomer who has had raw milk asks what raw milk he's going to get is like
goddamn do I regret your life

[Anonymous No.12480903]

>>12479922
Gross. I can't actually imagine having a dirty filter when I'm done milking, I just wasn't brought up that way. Clean your parlor you filthy animal

[Anonymous No.12480918]

>>12479867
Listeria isn't even deadly to 90% of the population and is ubiquitous in most microbiomes. In fact, its so ubiquitous that its allowed to be present in all foods sold at the grocery store as long as its under a certain threshold
>>12479920
I guess don't hire illegal immigrants who don't have their vaccines then? All herd animals are required to get vaccinated in America so it ain't coming from them.

[Anonymous No.12480925]

>>12477868
>kek
>>12477856
I wonder if eating lots of fresh vegetables with nothing more than a rinse will help protect you from the running trots.

[Anonymous No.12480930]

>>12480918
are you illiterate my man or just angry about something?

[Anonymous No.12480962]

>>12480930
Just pissed about muh coal plant that never reopened. Ok?

[Anonymous No.12480991]

>>12480918
Typhoid vaccines are only like 50% effective you ignorant baboon

[Anonymous No.12481009]

>>12480686
>>12480785
Old people used to buy milk from my work, pasteurized unhomogenized, so they could use the cream for their coffee.

[Anonymous No.12481022]

>>12480077
>>12480719
My sister and I would fight over the marrow in the bone of a round steak, and everyone would gag and bully us for mentioning it.
Now marrows sell for $32 a plate at gastropubs

[Anonymous No.12481072]

>>12481022
I like that the guy has to hire security but doesn't think to look at people he's yelling at in the streets

[Anonymous No.12481078]

>>12480991
Guess it's good there is no Typhoid here
Why does the United States have so many problems with disease and contamination?
Is it just because the regulatory committees are paid by the industry?

[Anonymous No.12481089]

>>12481078
I'm sorry you're unable to leave Cuba. The reason people get typhoid is that Americans are allowed to travel freely for the most part.

[Anonymous No.12481105]

>>12481072
>getting hysterical over words
If he had to 'hire security' I guess it means he wouldn't have to look at people he's yelling at in the streets.

[Anonymous No.12481109]

>>12481078
We don't have any more of issue with contamination or disease than anywhere else. Stop buying into anti American propaganda from people who are jealous about not being American

[Anonymous No.12481114]

>>12481105
right no one ever fights because of words, faggot

[Anonymous No.12481118]

>>12481078
>here
Where's 'here'?
Why do you allow the Eagle to occupy so much of your Real Estate rent-free?

[Anonymous No.12481150]

>>12479922

Can you tell more about the process or like what you did?

[Anonymous No.12481190]

>>12481089
>>12481109
>>12481118
New Zealand.
I'm not buying into propaganda, this whole thread is people talking about exotic diseases and contamination like your farms are cess-pits with third world standards

[afatoldman No.12481206]

Enjoy your e-Coli.

[Anonymous No.12481215]

>>12481114
>getting hysterical over words
>people have done it so it's right
We're seeing a pattern of fundamental cognitive distortions here.
>>12480800
>pasteurized milk is just glorified sugar water
Imagine believing this. Pastuerization occurs at 185F85C, sugars don't begin to do anything until well after 212F/100C.
Vitamins remain highly stable past 250F/122C

[Anonymous No.12481235]

>>12479922
Thanks for those early morning milkings I love milk
>>12481190
All those pathogens exist everywhere and are handled the same way by 1st world countries with very few exceptions. European eggs are warm farm to pan, American eggs are cold farm to pan.
Other than small exceptions, food safety is the same because the science is the same.

[The_Bakery pt. II !!VyIROBcMkwf No.12481236]

>>12480723
>>12480844
>>12480903

I'm not saying there's actual chunks of shit in milk, but the fact of the matter is that no matter how clean and meticulous you are in you dairy, there is going to be *some* amount of contamination in the milk. Hell, the FDA won't count a bathroom sink as a handwashing sink because it's in the vicinity of a toilet. You think that even with a sterilized udder and equipment, there isn't any particulate matter of cow shit floating around in the air that is necessarily going to get into the milk? It's like the equivalent of having your toothbrush in your bathroom. There are poop particles on it, and that's a fact.

Again, I wouldn't classify drinking raw milk as a particularly risky thing to do, but I don't think that raw vs pasteurized is nearly as important as quality overall when it comes to a flavor profile for drinking milk.

[Anonymous No.12481247]

>>12480723
>>12480844
>>12480903
There's feces in your milk, bugs in your flour, fly shit on your fruit, ecoli on your lettuce, worms in your avocados, and mites in your eyelashes.
This is true everywhere on Earth.
>>12481236
Ignore em they're fag trolls. There's a huge contingent of tranny trolls here downing meat and normalizing gayness.

[Anonymous No.12481248]

>>12481235
>food safety is the same because the science is the same
But the regulations that implement food safety and the compliance verification is vastly different.

[Anonymous No.12481250]

>>12481236
But at that point milk is the same as all food all food has trace particulates. what's in the soil plants grow in? Shit.

[Anonymous No.12481254]

>>12481215
>a
>h
>QED
in what way?

[Anonymous No.12481255]

>>12481236
a lil dirt wont hurt

[Anonymous No.12481265]

>>12481248
>But the regulations that implement food safety and the compliance verification is vastly different.
Not really, and it's all based on the USDA.
There are very few procedural differences, most are political to protect European farmers from high-quality low-priced American farms
>possess the largest prime farmland on the planet.
Other nations have huge protectionist schemes.
You should pay attention to your own country too instead of masturbating over American news.
>rent-free

[Anonymous No.12481352]

>>12481265
>it's all based on the USDA.
>There are very few procedural differences
no.
Picrelated is where most of your beef comes from which is illegal here.
>masturbating over American news
You guys brought it up so I asked questions, and I don't live in Europe, why you always obsessing over USA vs Europe
>rent-free

[The_Baker pt. II !!VyIROBcMkwf No.12481359]

>>12481250
>>12481255

We never pasteurized our milk at my dairy since it was all for me and the hundred people I lived with, so I'm not knocking it. I just want to be clear with people that raw milk comes with a not insignificant risk and that the overall quality of the milk will play a more central role in taste than pasteurization. Drink raw milk if you want, but source it responsibly from a dairy with good standards and we'll treated cows.

[Anonymous No.12481385]

>>12481022
Yeah marrow is fucking great but I don't think I would pay that much for some more than once.
I hope organ meat also takes off

[Anonymous No.12481399]

>>12477904
Yes goyim. Drink (((pasturized))) milk

[Anonymous No.12481441]

>>12481352
>ZOMG a feed lot it's evil
You already said you're not American, and you have acted like an ignorant baby with a spectator's opinion of America.
Sounds to me like you're just another resentful moron who cops out by blaming the richest man on the block.
How much shit is going down in New Zealand because people like you spend all their time crying about the US?
I would not even admit being as ass-chapped as you are over a more powerful country.

[Anonymous No.12481496]

>>12481441
Nobody
>
You
>OMG YOU"RE SO OBSESSED WITH ME HAHA WHY DO YOU SPEND ALL DAY LOOKING AT ME LOL YOU'RE SO STUPID YOU SHOULD FOCUS ON SOMETHING ELSE MORON I AM JUST THE GREATEST LMAO STOP LOOKING ARE YOU GAY OR SOMETHING?

[Anonymous No.12482239]

It's a huge meme. Raw milk doesn't taste particularly different from other milks beyond possibly being slightly smellier at first and may or may not have a tiny bit of curd at the top. other than that you're just over paying for a meme product with no actual upside to it beyond it coming in a trendy glass bottle.

[Anonymous No.12482266]

>>12482239
>t. never tried it
It tastes like drinking a liquid soft serve compared to store milk

[Anonymous No.12482312]

>>12481190
I honestly think that it's a cultural thing for Americans to be terrified of extremely unlikely food borne illness and not so much that our food is contaminated. When I cook for only myself I don't worry about if I've touched raw chicken or cut something else on the same cutting board and stuff like that. But for guests, out of respect and not wanting to be responsible for disturbing their potentially poor immune systems, I'm very careful about how I prepare food. I find that many people are so over-the-top about these things that they unwittingly make themselves more likely to get sick from the slightest bit of bacteria.

[Anonymous No.12482341]

>>12482266
>t. someone who has never even seen liquid soft serve
liquid soft serve is like fucking water, until vendors put it through a machine that agitates it and chills it you tard. Also I've tried raw milk from 5 different farmers markets in Indiana and 3 different stores in California, that shit is just muskier milk.

[Anonymous No.12482353]

>>12481385
There is a Mexican grocery store a few blocks from me that sells all kinds of pig and cow offal at very low prices. I'd like the prices to stay low but would also like to be able to get offal at more than just one place.

[Anonymous No.12482407]

>>12482341
Ah well you got me I've never seen liquid soft serve, just imagined what the icecream was like melted.
I dunno bro, either you're getting shit milk or the milk here is extraordinary but it's not even close to pasteurized that you get from shops here

[Anonymous No.12482432]

>you only drink powdered milk because a gallon can cost up to $10 usd

[Anonymous No.12482441]

>>12482407
Wow an actual response of concession.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was just shit milk. I will admit though, the best milk I ever did have was non pasteurized chocolate milk sold in Indiana, it was like melted ice cream, but every raw milk I've tried hasn't been too great.

[Anonymous No.12482609]

>>12482441
Best chocolate milk here is a collaboration between the best milk producer and the best chocolate bar company
Expensive AF but it's in a league of it's own entirely $6.50 for 750ml (25oz)

[Anonymous No.12482647]

Can anyone explain why the goat milk I bought says to shake it? It's ultra-pasteurized, so it doesn't have to do with it being raw.

[Anonymous No.12482736]

>>12482647
If you leave any milk long enough it separates
and if it's UHT then it may have sat for some time on a shelf

[Anonymous No.12482755]

>>12477856
Really creamy. You will need to boil it if it's really straight out of the cow's teat though

[Anonymous No.12482777]

>>12482755
>Goes a long way to get non-pasteurized milk
>Pays extra for it
You should pasteurize it

[Anonymous No.12482779]

>>12480864
>he thinks if he says something incorrect no one will call him out for it
Heat destroys vitamins and you are a willfully ignorant moron to think otherwise.

[Anonymous No.12482836]

>>12482779
You are such a retarded faggot buying into the health food propaganda. I love raw milk too but there is virtually no difference in vitamin content after pasteurization. In the past several years it's been debunked. The most significant loss is vitamin c and milk has very little of that anyway. Try some research before opening your stupid fucking mouth

https://www.dairynutrition.ca/facts-fallacies/product-quality/raw-milk

[Anonymous No.12483094]

>>12482836
>there is virtually no difference in vitamin content
OP here and I agree
There are different processes (picrelated) but generic Pasteurization leaves vitamins and minerals in tact
But I am personally interested in digestive probiotics and microbes. Research for yourself, this thread is fucked enough I'm not here to preach, I'm doing my own thing for anyone whose interested

[Anonymous No.12483113]

>>12480784
Fucking kill yourself holy shit

[Anonymous No.12483114]

>>12477856
shiga toxin-producing E. coli (STEC), Listeria and Campylobacter. These bacteria most commonly cause severe diarrhoea and vomiting, but occasionally some have been linked with more serious complications that include miscarriage, paralysis, meningitis, and serious kidney

[Anonymous No.12483119]

>>12481089
>Everyone lives in or near America
These people can't even point to all of the continents on a flat map

[Anonymous No.12483127]

>>12480722
Are you dumb? Pasteurized milk from the supermarket is diluted to 50%, if you pasteurized the milk you just got it would taste almost the same

[Anonymous No.12483202]

>>12483114
>serious kidney
i prefer happy kidney

[Anonymous No.12483316]

>>12483127
>Pasteurized milk from the supermarket is diluted to 50%
This is illegal and will net you jail time + loss of assets including property and livestock essentially bankrupt your whole family and imprison you for 25 years
>Are you dumb?
Yea sure

[Anonymous No.12483328]

>>12477994
>pints
more packing waste? fuckoff boomer, stop polluting Mother Earth

[Anonymous No.12484639]

>>12483094
Well yeah it definitely kills off the probiotics. If you're interested in getting more probiotics then try making kefir. I make about two gallons a week for our house. It's best with raw milk but you can also take pasteurized milk and return all the microbial content to it by making it into kefir. It's awesome

[Anonymous No.12486336]

been getting milk delivered these past couple months. pretty comfy.