/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.12430188]

is it actually bad to go vegan?

[Anonymous No.12430195]

>>12430188
not if it's for religious purposes

[Anonymous No.12430201]

take b12 supplements and eat a varied diet and you'll be aight

[Anonymous No.12430847]

Been a lacto-ovo-vegetarian for about 3 months now

Feeling alright although being a vegan would probably fuck me up

[Anonymous No.12430866]

>>12430201
don't worry dude i drink like 12 energy drinks

[Anonymous No.12430885]

>>12430188
Yes. Besides being an unpleasant diet, it is not a coincidence that people seem more and more malnourished the longer they're vegan.

[Anonymous No.12430897]

no, going vegan is great. don't listen to these autistic faggots, do real research. all the science supports veganism.

[Anonymous No.12430903]

>>12430897
where's your research to prove that it's great

[Anonymous No.12430905]

the proof is in the pudding and the pudding shows that vegan people look visibly unhealthy

there's no reason to be vegan anyway; just be vegetarian.

[Anonymous No.12430907]

>>12430188
body uses animal fat and protein for healthy regulation of hormones and digestion
don't go vegan

[Anonymous No.12430920]

>>12430907
t. doesn't have a degree in biology

[Anonymous No.12430924]

>>12430903
literally every study listed on veganliving.com you fucking flyover

[Anonymous No.12430936]

>>12430847
>lacto-ovo-vegetarian
how's that different from a regular vegetarian?

[Anonymous No.12430940]

I mean it won't kill you necessarily. You'll probably feel a lot more hungry for a while and if you don't take supplements or substitute nutrients from animal products with other sources you could end up malnourished. I know plenty of people who are vegan who are perfectly fine. There's a difference between being vegan and just eating junk that gives you no nutrition that happens to not have animal products though, which is what a lot of people, such as high school girls, who decide to be vegan because they think it'll be a cool personality traits, do.
It's a diet like any other diet. If you go off the deep end, it's gonna suck. If you're smart about it, it can have some benefits.
Personally, I'd never choose to have a vegan diet, because I feel like I maintain a relatively healthy diet without doing anything like that. For a lot of people, though, it does give them an easy way to simply start eating healthier foods. If you go from eating processed cheese spread and mcnuggets every day to a strictly vegan diet, your body will thank you a thousand times over. It's not just because you are vegan, it's because you are cutting out a lot of unhealthy things, that just so happen to be not vegan.

[Anonymous No.12430946]

>>12430924
thats not even a website bro

[Anonymous No.12431055]

>>12430936
it means youre even more autistic

[Anonymous No.12431071]

>>12430188
All the girls I knew that did it got uglier (skin), bitchier, and less horny. I can't even imagine what it does to men

[Anonymous No.12431166]

The thing about just eating a normal (in your culture) diet is that you dont even really have to think much or.do.any planning and you will get a nutritionally adequate diet. There is a reason your xulture eats the way it does - the diet aupports the growth and development of its children and the maintenance of a large, fixed population, who live long nutritionally adequate lives.

I mean, you can just basically eat mcdonalds and shit food and you wont really run into difiiculties beyond weight gain. Whereas when you go vehan, you have to plan, and micromanage, kr you WILL become defecoent in some vitamins or minerals, and you WILL become sick. Most raw vegans lose fertility, most vegans lose weight, all would die long term without b12 supplementation.

It is by definition a nutrient insufficient diet, which requires you take lab made supplements or foods fortified with theae supplements.

Is it good to eat this way? No culture has ever been vegan for a reason. Theres a reason meat and milk and fat is so prized (fat soluble vitamins, calories, nutrients).

Why deny your body what it craves based on some man made moralistoc bullshit ? Humans are.obligate omnivores, we have eaten plants and animals for.literally millions of years. Just eat a varied moatly unprocessed diet. Fuck ethics, your own health takes precedent over some stupid.critter

[Anonymous No.12431194]

>>12431071
You don't know any girls Anon. Why lie on the internet?

[Anonymous No.12431199]

>>12431166
>Millions of years

[Anonymous No.12431360]

>>12430188
>diet requires you to take pills to stay alive
>good
Try using your brain.

[Anonymous No.12431378]

>>12431194
To make friends

[Anonymous No.12431713]

It's fine to eat more plant based meals, however, we are omnivores. Eat less meat but use the money to buy good cuts of meat instead.

[Anonymous No.12431724]

>>12430188
It's extreme and unhealthy. Go moderate.

[Anonymous No.12431730]

Assuming you're American it's probably much better, but it's by no means necessary.

[Anonymous No.12431740]

>>12430201
>having to supplement your diet with manmade synthetic vitamins

Go vegan guys its super healthy


Lmaaaaaooo

[Anonymous No.12431857]

>>12431199
this. humans have literally only existed for 200,000 years. this is why you shouldn't listen to this assholes, op.

t. someone with an actual biology degree

[Anonymous No.12431866]

>>12431360
>livestock are given b12 supplements
>dairy milk is fortified with vitamins A and D
>people on omni diets have diabetes and heart disease, requiring them to take pills to live because they refuse to change their diets

[Anonymous No.12431873]

>>12430188
Yea eating fruits, vegetables, nuts, and grains is really going to fuck you up.
Eating the dead bodies and excrement of animals tho, that's cool.

[Anonymous No.12431930]

>>12430188
You can survive on a vegan diet, but your soul and body won't thrive.

[Anonymous No.12432007]

>>12431866
You dont need to eat livestock. Sardines contain 150% of the rda of b12. I suppose youre going to say that the fishermen are giving the fishies b12 supplements. Lmao @ your pathetic life.

[Anonymous No.12432052]

>>12430188
Yes it's bad, it's actually very bad....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

[Anonymous No.12432063]

>>12431873
Do you eat a lot of animal excrement vegan? That may explain why vegans are so wretchedly sick

[Anonymous No.12432173]

>>12430847
>lacto-ovo-vegetarian

[Anonymous No.12432194]

>>12430924
>shills veganism
>refers to a website called veganliving dot com
>vegan
>living
Who's paying you to say these things?

[Anonymous No.12432247]

>>12430188
Lots of propaganda and brainlets on both sides of the aisle. Veganism is legit a healthy option for heavy metal detox and other various detoxes for one month or so. Beyond that purpose, it is strictly worse than an omnivorous diet and this is a fact that can never be contended with. You only benefit by allowing more options into your diet.

Going vegan without protein injections and supplements will lead to mental deterioration and skeletal/dental degeneration. Cholesterol and fats from animals are extremely good for you and your body, problems occur when you ingest excess of either. Soy is a nightmare food for protein when compared to well fed animal flesh.

[Anonymous No.12432309]

>>12432247
>propaganda
>believes in detoxes

also
>makes claims that contradict all available science on the health of a vegan diet
>source: his asshole

you're a shill

[Anonymous No.12432352]

>>12432309
Detoxes are real though? You can literally remove negative metals (And positive ones) out of your body by going vegan. This is well understood and discussed.

>makes retarded bump post that doesn't mean anything to anyone in the thread and helps nobody to continue baiting instead of doing something productive

[Anonymous No.12432355]

>>12432352
tell me what "negative metals" are

tell me what "toxins" are

explain how "detoxes" work

no, really, go on.

[Anonymous No.12432377]

>>12432355
Mercury and arsenic? Have you not even read enough basic material to know what these things are or how you get them? Are you fucking stupid? Why are you even talking to me, I post info to help people and teach them stuff, you're literally not doing anything at all. You're not contributing, you're not offering information and you're not really saying anything in any of your posts.

[Anonymous No.12432385]

>>12432377
you didn't answer the questions

how does a vegan diet cause you to "detoxify" these metals (which have absolutely no effect in the normal quantities that they're found in the human body)

[Anonymous No.12432387]

>>12432377
but you didn’t tell him what toxins are and how a detox works using biological terms

[Anonymous No.12432395]

>>12432387
>>12432385
Why should I? I don't get how this is a part of the discussion, I'm not inventing words, you can go look that up if you want to. I didn't post in the thread to argue semantics and other stupid shit that armchair PhDs think is important.

[Anonymous No.12432396]

Research time.

Pic related: Dr. Marion Nestle (professor of research at NYU, highly vigilant of corporate sponsored science) on health and vegetarianism.

Following up on Vitamin B12 with NIH:
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminB12-HealthProfessional/#h2

Recommended daily dose is 2.4 micrograms.

Strict vegans could get it from fortified foods or supplements.

Common supplements have tablets including 500, 1000 or even 2500 micrograms.

Neat.

[Anonymous No.12432404]

>>12432395
you did post in the thread to argue though
seen here >>12432352
you just don’t know what you’re talking about and assume someone has science behind it
you also type like a woman

[Anonymous No.12432407]

>>12432396
>professor of research
Oops, professor of nutrition*

[Anonymous No.12432416]

>>12432396
Taurine is also good for your heart but not recognized as a required nutrient that is also not available from vegan food sources. Just throwing that out there. Stuff like selenium and magnesium can be really hard to get where some people live, but there are lots of good sources anyway.

>>12432404
you're not worth talking to, apologies. You still haven't posted anything in any of your posts discussing or talking about anything relevant to what I have posted. Please educate yourself and come back.

[Anonymous No.12432422]

>>12432395
ah, so you admit you're just spouting gibberish

i'm sorry i'm not an armchair Ph.D, i'm an actual dietician

[Anonymous No.12432429]

>>12432422
>this passes as trolling in 2019

Oof, yikes. Big yikes, actually. Next you're going to tell me that you're a white male? Hyper oof friendo. I too am a dietician but a black female one who loves MDE, so... checkmate sweetie.

[Anonymous No.12432511]

>>12430188
too much trouble for what it's worth. eat your hog slop like the rest of us.

[Anonymous No.12432572]

>>12432396
>Vegans
>Healthier
>Healthy at all

[Anonymous No.12432588]

>>12432396
>fish is an 'animal product', not meat

lmao

[Anonymous No.12432747]

>>12430188
Keep being vegan so that the population will decrease and the carnivore chads will have more space to themselves. Kill yourselves, cucks

[Anonymous No.12432915]

>>12432572
experts are only correct if they support my world view :) also i don't know how to crop

[Anonymous No.12432931]

>>12430188

[Anonymous No.12432938]

>>12431724
Another braindead centrist

[Anonymous No.12432940]

>>12430847
>lacto-ovo-vegetarian

[Anonymous No.12432942]

>>12431740
>orange chemical baaaaad!!!!

[Anonymous No.12432944]

>>12430924

[Anonymous No.12432952]

>>12432747
>carnivore chads
Natural selection at its finest

[Anonymous No.12432958]

>>12430188
>try to have baby
>go vegan
>miscarry every time

>climb mountain
>go vegan
>die on the mountain

>healthy lifestyle professional adviser
>go vegan
>look like a 62yo Auschwitz survivor

>be CEO of successful tech company and international famous person
>go vegan
>die of cancer

>raise kid
>make entire family go vegan
>kid feints sitting down

>spend a lot on groceries
>go vegan
>end up spending even more money

>at 25yo have testosterone level of a 55yo man
>go vegan
>now have t level of a 80yo man

[Anonymous No.12432962]

>go vegan

>your mere existence ruins the lives of incels globally

[Anonymous No.12432967]

>>12432962

[Anonymous No.12432993]

holy fuck there is one incredibly insecure, assmad samefag in this thread. and if its not the same fag, that's even more pathetic.
>ywn be man enough so you have to project
lol

[Anonymous No.12433023]

>>12431740
>he thinks the animals hes eating arent heavily supplemented

[Anonymous No.12433041]

>>12432309
>>12432355
Heavy metals:
>Mercury
>Aluminum
>Lead
>Arsenic
Plus many more

Toxins:
>old fecal matter in the colon and small intestine
>constipated lymph system
>parasites
>dirty blood

There are many herbs that clean the blood and chelate (remove) heavy metals from our nervous system. This is an ancient school of medicine formally created by Hippocrates. He said "Food is medicine". The modern school of medicine ran by Pharmacology is severely lacking.

[Anonymous No.12433053]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/30/dining/climate-change-food-eating-habits.html?action=click&contentCollection=Climate&region=Footer&module=WhatsNext&version=WhatsNext&contentID=WhatsNext&moduleDetail=undefined&pgtype=Multimedia

[Anonymous No.12433054]

>see something that disproves my thoughts
>go vegan
>still wrong

>go vegan
>call an anon an incel
>feel a little bit better about being a vegetable

[Anonymous No.12433058]

>>12433041
>getting medical advice from hippocrates instead of real science in 2k19

[Anonymous No.12433061]

>>12433041
if your blood is "dirty" you've got bigger problems than not eating some herbs lmao

[Anonymous No.12433066]

>>12432915
Vegan and expert. Fucking lol. Expert at what being anorexic?

[Anonymous No.12433071]

>>12432952
>Some 65 pounds vegan living zombie
>Look at Shawn Baker!!
>This paper proves he's not healthy!!
>Don't notice my vegan teeth please!!

[Anonymous No.12433074]

>be obese schizophrenic incel
>see something that triggers my penis and sex envy
>cry about it

[Anonymous No.12433082]

>>12433074
u mad?

[Anonymous No.12433084]

>>12432958
>>Be vegan
>>Start having kids at 14 so at least you're still fertile
>>make entire family go vegan
>>kid has rickets and deformity arms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLXLhvmsdC0

[Anonymous No.12433096]

>>12433084
100% child abuse

[Anonymous No.12433100]

>>12433082
No, but then again I have sex and am well endowed.

[Anonymous No.12433104]

>>12433053
>the jew york times
No thanks.

[Anonymous No.12433105]

>>12433100
u mad.

[Anonymous No.12433112]

>>12433100
>No, but then again I have sex and am well endowed.

[Anonymous No.12433124]

>>12432958
People die climbing mountains all the time vegan or not.

[Anonymous No.12433138]

>>12433124
Wow, caught me off guard there. Tell me more.

[Anonymous No.12433142]

>>12433112
Well vegans do have "sex" or at least that's what they call it.

[Anonymous No.12433148]

>>12433142
What does this ad even mean? I have never had issues fucking my wife because we ate steak for dinner. Infact, I fuck her brains out after I eat a dozen raw oysters without fail.

[Anonymous No.12433152]

>>12432958
>Be internationally famous Hollywood actor
>Go Vegan
>Die

(Michael Duncan Clark)

[Anonymous No.12433158]

>>12433138
Have you been reading the news lately? Pretty sure record numbers have been dropping climbing Everest this year.

[Anonymous No.12433165]

>>12433142
It's vegan propaganda, trying to signal to their cult members that it's the meat-eaters are unhealthy and disfunctional in the sack. They inadvertently admitted that most or all vegan men are gay and/or into bestiality.

[Anonymous No.12433167]

>>12433105
Did I trigger you?

[Anonymous No.12433168]

>>12433158
Probably vegans lol.

[Anonymous No.12433172]

>>12433148
It means youre a limpdicked low IQ incel like most drumpf voters

[Anonymous No.12433178]

>>12433167
I cry every time a vegan tooth falls out.
(Teeth in image, a long term Veganism pioneer)

[Anonymous No.12433180]

>>12433167
We don't have to hurt animals to get all the necessary vitamins!

[Anonymous No.12433181]

>>12433172
Note how the only IQ results you're willing to post are from before adopting a vegan lifestyle :^)

[Anonymous No.12433183]

>>12431071
It makes you infertile by design, veganism is an anti natalist/fertility cult

[Anonymous No.12433186]

>>12433172
Link to this study and not just an out of context picture with no source

[Anonymous No.12433187]

>>12433172
>childhood IQ

[Anonymous No.12433189]

>>12433172
What happened to your teeth vegan?

[Anonymous No.12433192]

Fuck yes, it's bad on so many levels. Effort, cost, socializing, brainwashed, malnourished, limited, you''ll officially become a fag or a cunt, all relationships will suffer and on and on and on.

[Anonymous No.12433195]

>>12432007
Vegans eternally BTFO

[Anonymous No.12433197]

>>12433187:
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLk5AAKRem8

[Anonymous No.12433199]

>>12433192
>fat retarded incel lecturing on socializing

Yikes

[Anonymous No.12433208]

>>12433172
Did you seriously call me an incel after I said that I'm married and fuck my wife regularly?

[Anonymous No.12433209]

>>12433183
Vegans are higher test

[Anonymous No.12433213]

>>12433208
>did you seriously like actually seriously like?

Yes you blubbering fat fuck. Do you want a cookie for knowing how to read?

[Anonymous No.12433218]

>>12433209
Post all the NGO sponsored propaganda youd like, Reality shows otherwise

[Anonymous No.12433221]

>>12431873
Millions of poisonous plants and vegetable retard.

[Anonymous No.12433224]

>>12433218
“Reality”

[Anonymous No.12433225]

>>12433197

[Anonymous No.12433227]

>>12433213
You're a special kind of stupid.

[Anonymous No.12433239]

>>12433199
I was traumatized by a horrific vegan face.

[Anonymous No.12433242]

>>12433224

[Anonymous No.12433246]

>>12430188
I cant imagine giving up meat to virtue signal on the internet

[Anonymous No.12433263]

>>12433197

[Anonymous No.12433294]

>>12433227
You’re a special type of coping incel

[Anonymous No.12433298]

>>12433242
>cherry red tomato bald manlet who beats his wife
Yeah im sure he’s in peak health because of how much you like him shirtless

[Anonymous No.12433307]

>>12433294
I bet you can't even get it up to jerk off to your cuck porn

[Anonymous No.12433310]

>>12433246
I cant imagine being so triggered over someone not being as fat as you that you virtue signal your inceldelity over the Internet

[Anonymous No.12433313]

>>12432944
pls b real

[Anonymous No.12433321]

>>12431740
>Majority of population is vitamin deficient
>Somehow this is only a vegan problem
Why do we fortify food with vitamins? Maybe you should stop fortifying yours with lead.

[Anonymous No.12433323]

>>12433307
Ask your mother.

[Anonymous No.12433332]

>>12433323
hohoho good one you are so smart and clever

[Anonymous No.12433359]

The only truly ethical diet is one of sun and air. Go breatharian.

[Anonymous No.12433378]

>>12433359
most, unfortunately, at the moment don't have the IQ to adequately understand breatharianism

[Anonymous No.12433446]

>>12433172
>t. Seething since 2016

[Anonymous No.12433456]

>>12433310
>Be Vegan
>Call everyone fat

[Anonymous No.12433477]

>>12433456
>be fat

[Anonymous No.12433486]

>>12430188
I think going full vegan is dumb, but I'm trying to add more vegetarian meals to my diet.
Made black bean burgers today and they weren't too bad, but even with a ton of spices it doesn't give me as good of a flavor like beef does.The grilled onions helped though.

[Anonymous No.12433504]

>>12433058
>he trusts his jewish doctor

>>12433061
acne is a sign the blood is toxic

[Anonymous No.12433564]

>>12433486
being a vegetarian is a dietary choice, being a vegan is joining mentally deranged cult. Show me one vegan with a level head. I'll wait.

[Anonymous No.12433597]

>>12433564
You'll wait a long time.

[Anonymous No.12433629]

>>12433504
It also means your pineal gland is oxidized which can put a patina on your 5th chakra

[Anonymous No.12433650]

>>12430188
The comfiness of this image comes from that "comfy nightmare" feel where you're in the sort of dream where you sense evil and horror lurking nearby, but you're safely just out of its reach so it's just kind of spookily titillating. Like walking down a road at night where you know the houses are filled with monsters, but the street lamps are on and you know you're in no danger so long as you stay on the street and keep moving

[Anonymous No.12433728]

>>12432429
>Oof
>yikes.
>Big yikes
>actually.
>Hyper oof friendo.
>checkmate sweetie.

[Anonymous No.12433755]

>>12433728
For me it's a nice bowl of Kraft ooferoni and yikes

[Anonymous No.12433823]

>>12433100
>brings up sex and penis size out of nowhere
>claims to have sex and being well endowed
>Freudian projection 101

So that's what you leftists are insecure about? Your dick? Jesus.

[Anonymous No.12433840]

>>12433486
>different foods have different tastes

[Anonymous No.12433847]

>>12433823
They usually chop it off.

[Anonymous No.12433857]

>>12433840
I didn't say they didn't have different taste, nor did I say I was trying to get it to be the same flavor
>doesn't give me as good of a flavor
literal retard that can't read
the flavor wasn't as enjoyable, two foods can have different tastes and both be equally as enjoyable

[Anonymous No.12433919]

>>12432940
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING.

[Anonymous No.12433921]

>>12433023
Fish arnt supplemented and provide b12. Neither are other wild animals.

the only reason farm animals are supplemented is because the bacteria in their gut that produce b12 is killed off by the antibiotics they are given. They do otherwise naturally produce b12 so your argument fucking sucks. Just like wild deer and elk are full of b12 and they arnt supplemented with shit.

[Anonymous No.12434177]

>>12433629
oy vey goyim

>>12433921
Factory fish are fucked. They just found heaps of plastic at the bottom of the deepest parts of the ocean. You don't think every animal on the planet is fucked? You're retarded. B12 is bacteria. Normally found in nutrient rich soil. You can eat your feces and parasite filled animal flesh. It's being proven and has been proven over and over that plants are better for humans than flesh is. You can live in denial for however long you like.

[Anonymous No.12434203]

>>12434177
>You can live in denial for however long you like.
not really, the cancer or the heart disease will get them eventually

[Anonymous No.12434213]

>>12432309
>source: his asshole
I don't have a dog in this fight but that gave me a sensible chuckle anon

[Anonymous No.12434242]

>>12434203
>>12434203

[Anonymous No.12434351]

>>12430188
Not if you're trying to kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.12434358]

>>12431071
Vegan is for real men who are comfortable with their masculinity.

[Anonymous No.12434379]

>>12433178
>dead eyes
Instant giveaway of veganism

[Anonymous No.12434472]

>>12434379
>Dead vegan eyes.

[Anonymous No.12434622]

>>12433919
Brave

[Anonymous No.12434634]

>>12433298
Thats what happens when white people go in the sun, also when did he beat his wife? Why are you lying?

[Anonymous No.12434648]

>>12433168
the average 185 pound man could rip this dude in half but I bet he makes a nice cocksleeve

[Anonymous No.12434649]

>>12433456
>Be vegan
>rapidly age from lack of collagen in the diet

[Anonymous No.12435392]

>>12430188
im vegan, and i have never been happier

[Anonymous No.12436110]

>>12430188
ask the experienced vegans, oh wait there are no experienced vegans because they all quit before the 2 year mark.

[Anonymous No.12436287]

>>12436110
Oh no my fren you are wrong about that. Some people push right through all the medical problems and stay vegan lol.

Jamie dunson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zjA7XlMI-g
The raw runner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=4nf7wAMwfrw

The list of long term vegans is long, and sad.

[Anonymous No.12436346]

>>12436287
That doesn't count, those are raw vegans. They're on a level of stupid that normal vegans don't come close to.

[Anonymous No.12436362]

>>12436287
Arnold Kaufman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x8XtDBljU
Emily the bite size vegan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bZsS5UatR4
Leanne Ratcliff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpkxwTnA2CQ

Doug Graham, Dr McDougall, the list of the long term vegans reads like a cautionary tale, warning you against Veganism. Dr Drey.

[Anonymous No.12436378]

>>12436346
The "raw runner" has not been raw for several years

[Anonymous No.12436460]

>>12430188
Short answer, no it is not, it is even better in every sense.

In terms of health, (red and processed) meats have been related by the WHO to higher risks of cancer. Meat contains cholesterol that leads to clogged arteries and heart diseases.
The WHO also suggests that a plant-based diet should be favored over eating meat.
Any nutrient found in an animals flesh can either be found in nature or produced by your own body when eating a balanced diet.
The issue of B12 is that it is a Bacteria found in dirty soils, means, our food is too clean, as well as the food of food animals is. They are being supplemented, so would you have to do then.

In terms of sustainability, the current meat production is the worlds biggest cause of CO2 emissions. More than half of the plants grown in agriculture, and therefore most of the destruction of forests and other wildlife habitats can be linked to the production of meat.

In terms of morality, after knowing both previous arguments, how can you defend continuing eating meat? As long as it is not a necessity, how do you defend taking the life of another being, that just as you do, wanted to live its life? Do you value your taste buds over the life of another being? If you think murder and rape is wrong, you should go vegan to align your morals with your actions.

Of course, a lot of this only applies to the privileged lifes of the western society, but on the other hand, these are also the people that
do the most of the unnecessary and often wasteful killing.

[Anonymous No.12436968]

>>12436460
>In terms of morality, after knowing both previous arguments, how can you defend continuing eating meat

Observing that your "arguments" are simply jumbled up lies and nonsense, why would I have to defend continuing to eat healthy?

You starve yourself if you want to, you are obviously high on your own supply!

[Anonymous No.12437095]

>>12432194
He's shitposting, you literal autist. It's a joke.

[Anonymous No.12437147]

>>12436968
>climate change denier

see >>12433053

[Anonymous No.12437211]

>>12436968
So, you want to suggest that the words of many researchers and also the largest dietary body in the world are telling jumbled up lies?
You also want to deny climate change? Or at least, that we have an overproduction of greenhouse gasses, allthewhile we deliberately chop down trees and destroy the ocean (that produce oxygen if you didn't know) only for us to have a piece of meat everyday?
Give me an example of a nutrient you need to survive and can only be found in animal flesh!
I will gladly provide you with the information you need to have a healthy diet while being vegan.
Only because there are malnourished vegans doesn't mean it is not possible to be a healthy vegan. You wouldn't agree when i showed you a malnourished person that eats meat and i said its unhealthy to eat meat.

[Anonymous No.12437214]

>>12437211
Your argument literally went from "it's healthier" to "you can survive on this diet"

[Anonymous No.12437258]

>>12437214
It did not, don't play on the choice of my words to deflect the meaning of it.
I change 'survive' to 'live a healthy life', there you go.
Better go on and try disproving what i have said.

[Anonymous No.12437433]

>>12433298
>who beats his wife

does he?

[Anonymous No.12437513]

>Be me
>Be 21
>Incel kissless virgin
>Go vegan
>Get laid 2 months later

It's life on easy mode desu.

[Anonymous No.12439368]

Make sure you're getting enough calories and essential amino acids and vitamin B12 and you should be alright

[Anonymous No.12439376]

>>12430188
I'm neet and vegan and ever since I started buying vegan, my parents started eating up my food because it tastes better than what they eat and now I'm starving because I never have any food anymore

[Anonymous No.12439398]

>>12432396
This is bullshit.
Vegans have one thing going for them - they watch what they eat. Most vegans don't just cram down french fries, chips and chocolate. They need to do their research and most junk food is not available in vegan form.
If you would compare meat eaters who watch what they eat vs the general vegan populace, there would be little difference.

[Anonymous No.12439409]

>>12437513
>it's worth it to cease carnist behavior and go vegan for the pussy
You're right. Vegans have a higher libido and tend to be wild in bed, almost as frisky as evangelical preacher's daughters.

[Anonymous No.12439911]

>>12439398
except meat is a carcinogen soo

[Anonymous No.12439943]

>>12430188
every vegan you see is dying so yes if you value your health don't go vegan

[Anonymous No.12439952]

>>12439911
oxygen is a carcinogen what's your point

[Anonymous No.12440296]

>>12439376
Veganism is a starvation diet, so your parents are just hurrying you along in the process.

[Anonymous No.12440302]

>>12439911
>Except (lyng Jew vegan doctors say) meat is a carcinogen.

First rule of meme club is never take advice from people who want to kill you. If you want to starve yourself, please do I don't GAF. But I'm not joining a Jewish anorexia cult.

[Anonymous No.12440307]

>>12440296
Being thin is fashionable. Go back to Europe with the rest of the fatties, fatso.

[Anonymous No.12440329]

>>12440307
Your statement pinpoints the reason why all these arguments are stupid. Vegans and non-retarded people disagree profoundly on the definition of the word "healthy." Vegans are not lying when they say they are healthy, in their mind, weighing 65 pounds

as an adult male and losing more than 4 teeth to minerals deficiencies, is no reason to think they are not "amazingly healthy!"

If you call this "healthy" then you are obviously healthier than me!

[Anonymous No.12440330]

>>12439943
Everyone is technically dying in a way

[Anonymous No.12440384]

>>12440330
Vegans seem to be in a hurry though.

[Anonymous No.12440391]

>>12440329
Yeah but the woman on the left is a European. You can tell because she's blonde. Of course she can't adapt to the superior vegan lifestyle.
You proved my point, Eurotard. Case closed you fatass Eurodumbs.

[Anonymous No.12440433]

>>12440391
Any comment, no matter how brilliant, no matter how witty it could have been, instantly nullified if it includes the phrase "superiour vegan diet."

[Anonymous No.12440442]

>>12440433
>superiour
>>>>>>our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>U
Case closed. No one cares about your opinion, EURONUG. You're our bitch now.

[Anonymous No.12440476]

Looking at vegans gives me nightmares. I know that they will cause the zombie apocalypse, it's only a matter of when their brains degenerate to that point

[Anonymous No.12440489]

>>12440476
How can we be zombies if we can't eat brains?
Makes no sense.

[Anonymous No.12440507]

>>12440489
Vegans brains degenerate because they don't get enough omega 3

[Anonymous No.12440515]

>>12440507
OKay but zombies eat brains.
We don't eat brains.

[Anonymous No.12440531]

>>12440515
Their bodies begin eating themselves because they are served of nutrients, so it's close enough. You know what I mean.

[Anonymous No.12440537]

>>12440531
Starved*

[Anonymous No.12440543]

>>12440531
ok
I always did want to be a ghoul though

[Anonymous No.12440544]

>>12440531
It's cool man, just admit you're not funny

[Anonymous No.12440551]

>>12436460
>(((WHO)))

Yeah, I sure wonder (((who))) is behind the (((WHO))).

As if I would do anything the globalists tells me to do.

[Anonymous No.12440640]

>>12439952
it's literally not kek

[Anonymous No.12440649]

>>12440544
I'm being completely serious. Why would you think I was joking

[Anonymous No.12440652]

>>12440640
Yes it is, it's called oxidation and basic science

[Anonymous No.12440667]

>>12436460
An almond costs 40 gallons water
Meanwhile...

"The emissions were completely offset by the amount of carbon sequestered in the ground. And not just a little bit of carbon, it was a significant amount."

https://sustainabledish.com/its-not-the-cow-its-the-how-new-study-shows-grass-fed-beef-can-be-a-carbon-sink/

Keep seething in your six shits a day, retard

[Anonymous No.12440671]

>>12440652
let's see your biology degree, pal

[Anonymous No.12440678]

>>12440671
I don't need a degree to know basic facts, retard

[Anonymous No.12440695]

>>12440667
carbon emissions are not the only metrics of resource use and environmental impact, you absolute fucking retard. even if it was, one article from a woowoo website doesn't refute all the actual science showing that livestock production produces a shit ton of emissions.

and yeah, almonds use water, like all plants. but all animals, especially beef, use more (both because they need water and they eat fucking plants) but you already know that since you clearly know how to google shit. cherry picking is not evidence.

see >>12433053

[Anonymous No.12440706]

>>12440678
no but apparently you need one to know what "oxidization" means

[Anonymous No.12440710]

>>12440671
Rekt

[Anonymous No.12440711]

>>12440695
>not refuting the six shits a day part
Keep seething

[Anonymous No.12440716]

>>12440706
Lol, u can't even spell oxidation

[Anonymous No.12440723]

>>12440711
>ignoring fax and trying to bait people into arguing about stereotypes you pulled out of your ass

kys incel

[Anonymous No.12440730]

>>12440716
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/oxidization

[Anonymous No.12440735]

>>12440723
Except that those stereotypes can only be true when one is constantly grazing carbs throughout the day, and often, low amounts of fat because they believe fat is 'unhealthy'
Keep seething xdd

[Anonymous No.12440742]

>>12440730
You literally defeated yourself
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxidization
"Oxidization may refer to:

Oxidation, a chemical reaction in which electrons are lost"
Retard

[Anonymous No.12440743]

>>12440735
i have a degree in biology, i'm not some anti-vax mommy blogger who thinks shit like this
>fats are unhealthy

my diet has a health ratio of macros, but that is irrelevant to the topic of the environmental impact of meat. you clearly have no argument so fuck off and enjoy your heart disease and colon cancer

[Anonymous No.12440745]

>>12440742
>doesn't understand synonyms
wow you are fucking retarded. don't breed.

[Anonymous No.12440746]

>>12440723
Take a basic physiology class and you'll learn all about "oxidization", carcinogens, and oncogenesis

[Anonymous No.12440751]

>>12440743
Oh yeah? How about telling everyone what those macros are? Or are you just making things up as you try to bluff your way out of your own shithole?
What macro ratio are you on, anon?

[Anonymous No.12440754]

>>12440746
again i have a degree in this topic. enjoy being a retard.

[Anonymous No.12440763]

>>12440754
So you can explain it then. Go on

[Anonymous No.12440770]

>>12440745
Oxidisation is how they say it in British, stupid

[Anonymous No.12440818]

>>12440751
post yours fatty

[Anonymous No.12440836]

Anyone who considers going vegan just do it already. Were better off once you all slowly kill yourselves and ruin your sperm counts so you cant reproduce

[Anonymous No.12440907]

>>12440818
>eating that little amount of fat


I try to stay as close to 0%carbs as possible.
Protein is 25%
Fat 75%
Maintenance calories come to around 1500calories per day based on some inaccurate online calculator

[Anonymous No.12440914]

>>12440836
Based

[Anonymous No.12440922]

>>12440818
Btw, nice calorie restriction. Keep starving

[Anonymous No.12440944]

>>12440818
Good luck when you get diabetes

[Anonymous No.12441574]

>>12430188
it is great, but you have to know what you are doing, get some info first

[Anonymous No.12441620]

>>12440476
Vegans are the zombie apocalypse. It's here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Wry4ppywQ

[Anonymous No.12441727]

>>12440922
how many calories is that, bud?

[Anonymous No.12441730]

>>12440944
>implying
30/30/40 is recommended

>>12440907
fuck off ketofag. carbs are healthy.

[Anonymous No.12441885]

>>12440944
>>12440922
>t. mcfatties with no arguments and shit macros
stay triggered

[Anonymous No.12441890]

>>12430903
some dinosaurs were vegan

[Anonymous No.12442431]

>>12433919
Progress personified

[Anonymous No.12444148]

>>12441730
Carbs rob you of your nutrients, retard. Keep seething when you go to the hospital for diabetes

[Anonymous No.12444160]

>>12441727
Less than 700, not even enough to cover bmr

[Anonymous No.12444169]

>>12441885
>assuming that anyone who isn't starving is fat
Keep seething

[Anonymous No.12444179]

>>12444148
>all carbs
Yeah fruit really robs you of nutrients faggot

[Anonymous No.12444262]

>>12444179
Exactly, retard. So stop eating fruits that will rot your teeth anyway.

[Anonymous No.12444268]

>>12444262
You are the most retarded nigger faggot on the face of the planet

[Anonymous No.12444404]

>>12430885
>people seem more and more malnourished
Instead imagine folks being accustomed to looking at people so sick as in swollen or filled with preservatives from eating loads of highly processed crap to not have a decent idea what health really means as in typical western diet

[Anonymous No.12444431]

>>12433321
I'll fortify your brainpan with some fucking lead if you keep talking to me that way nigger.

[Anonymous No.12444518]

>>12444404
>Look at the skinny vegans! So unnatural and unhealthy!

[Anonymous No.12445050]

>>12444518
That man and woman are both fertile and could have ten children before they drop dead of diabetes. (And they also have years of life to turn it around and get healthy if they want too)

Vegan women hit menapause at 21 fucking KEK. Veganism- when you absolutely positively need your genetic line to end at 21.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uP8C0tC-ugk

[Anonymous No.12445093]

I really, really, really like this thread.

[Anonymous No.12445622]

>>12445050
I can tell by her face that her body is acidic and inflamed. This is not BECAUSE of a vegan diet.

Human biochemistry is simply acidity vs alkalinity. Excess acidity leads to acidosis which causes things like cancer and destroys organs which leads to diabetes, liver failure, etc.

These people need an ALKALINE WHOLE FOODS PLANT BASED DIET.

Flesh is not the cure for this, it's extremely acidic and behaves as a stimulant.

[Anonymous No.12445630]

>>12433321
>le vitamin deficiency myth
maybe you should stop fortifying yours with semen

[Anonymous No.12445642]

>>12445622
>PH woo

yawn

[Anonymous No.12445643]

>>12445642
>t. walking cesspool

[Anonymous No.12445644]

>>12430188
The moment you bring it up, it is a bad thing. So in your case, yes.

[Anonymous No.12445658]

>>12433172
>childhood IQ
As someone with a high IQ, especially as a child, I can tell you this means absolute dick. Just look at mensatards.

[Anonymous No.12445673]

>>12430847

[Anonymous No.12445680]

>>12433650
I don't know this feel. If the monsters and shit show up, I wake myself up because I can generally half tell I'm dreaming. If I don't they come and get my shit and show up all night.
Ironically, if I go full lucid on purpose, the demons and shadow monsters show up every time. I guess my subconscious likes its privacy.

[Anonymous No.12445694]

>>12445680
To add, I don't find that image creepy at all. It's comfy because twightlight, traveling, trains, and rain are comfy.

[Anonymous No.12445696]

>>12430920
Well of course ALL biologists concurr a vegan diet is best, not just a few vocal nut jobs!

[Anonymous No.12445755]

>>12444268
You are the bigger faggot for not following scientific advice... A faggot to yourself. I understand being a faggot to others because of your stupid personality, but when you become a faggot to yourself is when you know that you are really fucked up

[Anonymous No.12445758]

>>12445643
t. israelite shill

[Anonymous No.12445762]

>>12445622
Your body literally cannot be acidic or you will die

[Anonymous No.12445768]

>>12444268
So when you can't come back with a counterargument, you start speaking your gorilla language? Haaa, baka retard. Keep de-evolving

[Anonymous No.12445795]

>>12445768
back to >>>/jp/

[Anonymous No.12445838]

>>12445795
You just prove that I am right

[Anonymous No.12445867]

>>12445795
Meanwhile you can only speak one language, keep seething in your jealousy

[Anonymous No.12446342]

Its not necessarily bad, but its very expensive and if you are trying to make gains its really difficult to find good amounts of proteins while staying calorie lite. If you can afford it and its something you want to do, go for it

[Anonymous No.12446347]

>>12446342
There's nothing expensive about a vegan diet unless you buy stuff like beyond and impossible. Lentils and beans are dirt cheap. I do agree that it is pretty hard to do a mostly protein diet vegan though. But unless you are a bodybuilder that won't matter. Western people in general consume more protein than they need

[Anonymous No.12446353]

>>12433456
Well. The majority of Americans are overweight?

[Anonymous No.12446423]

>>12445795
retarded newfag

[Anonymous No.12446491]

>>12445622
Dis nigga think they a battery!

[Anonymous No.12446550]

>>12446347
The dental bills that are like the reverse-dividends of the vegan diet will be very expensive.

Most vegans quit after $4,000 worth of false teeth. Not all, some remain on you tube and keep shilling the starvation cult.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw

[Anonymous No.12446556]

>>12446353
And that has any relevancy to me because?????????

If you must know, British are the most obese, sedentary, unhealthy people on Earth.

[Anonymous No.12446701]

>>12430188
Its fucking retarded OP
You will need to take supplements

[Anonymous No.12446726]

>>12446556
>Hurrrrr vegans call everyone fat.
Well everyone is fat.
Is it wrong to call water wet?

[Anonymous No.12446731]

>>12446556
Wrong. Great Britain doesn't break top 25 while USA is at twelth place.

[Anonymous No.12446737]

>>12446731
WHY ARE WE SO LOW WTF
WE DESERVE TO BE NUMBER ONE!!!

[Anonymous No.12446745]

>>12446731
>Great Britain doesn't break top 25

hahahah what

in terms of countries with 100mil+ population, UK is literally #2 or 3 in overweight now

nobody cares if people in nauru and tonga are overweight those places are not real

[Anonymous No.12446774]

>>12446745
USA is still fatter hombre.
36% obesity compared to GB 28%
I guess you guys really are numero uno after all

[Anonymous No.12446804]

>>12446731
Brits are also poor at spelling.
Moseley was a Brit, so that redeemed everything.

[Anonymous No.12447474]

>>12446774
Different anon, I thought Mexico surpassed us

[Anonymous No.12447529]

>>12446774
Around 31% obesity in Mexico so no. Not even close.

[Anonymous No.12447545]

>>12447529
Could you at least learn to reply to the right fuckin' person jesus christ.

[Anonymous No.12447578]

>>12447545
I'm sorry it's really late. And I made a mistake.

[Anonymous No.12447579]

>>12446745
>in terms of countries with 100mil+ population
UK is about 67m you brainlet.

[Anonymous No.12447593]

>>12430188
not really

[Anonymous No.12448929]

>>12430188
Yes. You would be healthier eating only meat than eating only plants.

[Anonymous No.12449530]

>>12448929
Healthier to me for sure. One more mouthbreather dying early means more oxygen for me in the future.
I hope you join him.

[Anonymous No.12449976]

>>12430188
why do 80% of vegans quit within 2 years of starting the diet?

[Anonymous No.12450666]

>>12449976
where dud you get that number from?