/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.12130946]

>food is cheap in Ameri-

[Anonymous No.12130951]

>>12130946
I wasn't aware Euros ate cough drops.

[Anonymous No.12130965]

>>12130946
>cough drops are food
finally got internet run to the trailerpark Cletus?

[Anonymous No.12130968]

>>12130946
>lifes in sf and works at apple
Alls well that ends well. Hope they fucking bankrupt this cunt.

[Anonymous No.12130977]

>>12130946
I guess to a 3rd worlder yuro, cough drops are food. you take what you can get over there

[Anonymous No.12130978]

>>12130946
Hospitals really are insane in the US.

>walk into emergency
>get brought into room
>get sat on bed
>given shot
>vomit into barf bag
>leave

>a month later get a $5,000 bill, being charged for sugar injection, doctor's salary, no insurance fee, electricity, doors opening, pen usage, making nurse talk fee, greeting fee, emergency room tax, unmetered parking lot usage, fluorescent lighting fee, visible waxing crescent, didn't die tax, "additional fee" made up of undisclosed charges and mandatory "this too" charge

[Anonymous No.12130984]

>>12130978
cringe

hope this is a copypasta and you didn't actually try to put this much effort into an epic le funnay post

[Anonymous No.12130993]

>>12130978
>no insurance
well there's your problem, quit trying to cheat the system

[Anonymous No.12131003]

>>12130984
Guess how I know you're an incel

[Anonymous No.12131007]

They have to pay for the illegals in the emergency room somehow

[Anonymous No.12131013]

>>12131003
>Thailand
>Pay in Thai rupees or AUD
cringe
cringing so hard

[Anonymous No.12131014]

>>12130993
>having to pay other people money to avoid frivolous expenses
I mean let's face it, hospitals charge extra for tons of stupid bullshit. It's a real problem.

[Anonymous No.12131015]

The American healthcare industry is literally a protection racket.

[Anonymous No.12131021]

>>12131015
shut the fuck up trump is a hero

[Anonymous No.12131032]

>>12131021
MIGA!!!!

[Anonymous No.12131035]

>>12131021

[Anonymous No.12131039]

>>12130946
Imagine being a nigger without an actual career and employer provided health insurance. Max I can possibly pay is 5k a year (untaxed) then they cover the rest

Miles better than a 50% income tax

[Anonymous No.12131041]

>>12130946
Food prices are cheap in the US don't be a faggot. However, our healthcare system is a fucking mess. I currently don't have insurance and I had to pay $80 to see a PCP and $80 to get basic meds. There is room for improvement here.

[Anonymous No.12131042]

The American health “”””””””””care”””””””””” system hard at work

[Anonymous No.12131044]

>>12131014
I have a job and go through my company. I pay about 200 every 2 weeks for health coverage, less than any euros pay for their shit in taxes. It's not that bad, even get free eye and dental shit twice a year.

[Anonymous No.12131045]

>>12131039
hah wow max you can pay is 5k huh? Thats a whole 500 cough drops, youre set bud!

[Anonymous No.12131050]

>>12131015
I’d rather pay the insurance company directly than have the government steal it through taxes.

[Anonymous No.12131052]

>>12131013
If you still don't get it, I dunno know what to tell ya, chump.

[Anonymous No.12131055]

>>12131050
The insurance companies are extorting the healthcare industry and not passing the savings to the consumer. Don't defend our broken healthcare system.

[Anonymous No.12131064]

>>12131039
SHUT UP

[Anonymous No.12131068]

>>12131050
haha yeah dude i’d rather get bent over completely rather than have a well oiled universal healthcare system in the best interest of everyone, fuck the commies man!

[Anonymous No.12131069]

>>12131055
The healthcare system is broken. Thinking putting the government that has a failed medicare, medicaid, and vfa in charge is pants on head retarded. We moved in the wrong direction with Obamacare, and now it's a retarded political posturing quagmire, because if you touch the third rail, you're, "Throwing granny off of the cliff!"

[Anonymous No.12131070]

>>12130946
You can buy a whole bag for a couple bucks at the store. Dont buy them at the hospitol?

[Anonymous No.12131082]

>>12131050
If the government way paying for your healthcare they would have an incentive to keep costs lower. Instead they write laws and regulations that drive up healthcare costs at the behest of industry lobbyists, and they have no reason to say no and millions of dollars in campaign financing motivating them to say yes.

[Anonymous No.12131083]

He’s an idiot for eating a million. He could have brought his own bag in at any time, but instead had to get the stuff that had to be individually packaged, dispensed, and monitored by hospital staff. It also costs more to have a whole kitchen team to make me a fried egg and deliver it to me than to it does to make it myself, crazy right?

[Anonymous No.12131088]

>>12130946
>going to a hospital for something that can be treated with cough drops
Doctor should have prescribed you a cyanide pill.

[Anonymous No.12131090]

>>12130978
>be in US
>pay health insurance like an adult
>wait for a few minutes
>see doc
>pay $20
>go to pharmacy
>$3
Have the rest of my day to be a free american because i work for a living.

[Anonymous No.12131094]

>>12130978
>didn't die tax
kek'd

[Anonymous No.12131095]

>>12131045
no you euro/poorfag, once you've paid 5k out of pocket in a given year, your insurance covers 100% of any additional expenses

[Anonymous No.12131098]

>>12131090
Well to heaven with you, mr born perfect.

[Anonymous No.12131105]

>>12131095
That isn't very good insurance though in all honesty. Does that 5k deductible include preventative care or just specialists and hospital visits?

[Anonymous No.12131111]

>>12131095
Haha wow only 5k, wow. So that means if you get only one life threatening injury every year, your insurance will be totally worth it!

[Anonymous No.12131114]

>>12131111
The basic insurance in the US just protects you from going bankrupt, that's it.

[Anonymous No.12131116]

>>12131095
I literally have not spent 5k on health care in the entire past decade combined. How does that seem like amgood deal to you? Do you habe cancer or something?

[Anonymous No.12131119]

>>12131039
How bout when I first started my job I thought this was shit but then I found out I DONT have to pay the 5000 at once its over time and then I was fucking ecstatic

[Anonymous No.12131120]

>>12131111
Do you not understand what the difference between a payment and a deductible is? Probably not, because you're an underage b&.

[Anonymous No.12131126]

>>12130978
If you live in the US, you pretty much just hope that you don't get sick or get hurt to where you need to go to a hospital or doctor.

Doctor's here are fucking quacks anyway, so it's for the best. I haven't been to the doctor in 8 years, and frankly, my plan in life is just to drop dead whenever. The entire "healthcare" industry is a fucking racket designed to keep people frightened and in-line.

[Anonymous No.12131130]

>>12131116
first of all I didn't say it was a good deal, I was just explaining how it works. But If you do have to go to the hospital for any reason it's gonna run you way more than $5k

[Anonymous No.12131133]

>>12131116
If you live somewhere with mandatory national healthcare, you have spent much more than 5k in taxes (or you’ve survived off working people)

[Anonymous No.12131134]

>>12130984
"Didn't die tax" actually was pretty funny though
Also, what would cause a person to actually defend a system as irreparably fucked as US healthcare on an anonymous forum? The US in general has pretty above-average ideas about speech and unlawful search and seizure, and absolutely based ideas about firearms ownership, but their ideas on healthcare are so romper room retarded that it pretty much nixes my desire to ever wanna live there.

[Anonymous No.12131150]

>>12131134
The reason that people defend the us healthcare system is because of the posts you are seeing here. It's a people with insurance vs. people without insurance battle. As long as "I" have insurance "you" can fucking die for all I care. People claim to want to unite the US and become nationalistic, but in reality the US is so individualistic that nobody cares about anybody other than themselves and probably never will again.

[Anonymous No.12131169]

>>12131150
My friend's privately acquired commune health care (forget the legit name) costs less in monthly payments than my company's provided healthcare. People are just too stupid to work within the parameters they live in, and then just bitch that it isn't fair. No shit, life isn't fair. It's not fair waiting to die on a months long waiting list for and appointment with a terminal disease that will kill you in weeks government health care, or being neglected and dying because your nurses aren't paid enough to give a shit either. Ups and downs with every system on earth.

[Anonymous No.12131174]

>>12130978
lmao, I don't have insurance and I went into the doctor a week ago for an infection and it cost me a whopping $100. Unless you live in a shitty coastal state with 800 pounds of red tape for everything healthcare costs jack shit. Coasties don't deserve to afford to go to the doctor anyways. They can just go ahead and die.

[Anonymous No.12131183]

>>12131150
>>12131169
Out of curiousity, how much does healthcare cost out-of-pocket in the United States? Like if you were self-employed, or unemployed, or a student, what would you be paying in your 20s with no major medical problem?

[Anonymous No.12131189]

>>12131134
retard republican trailer trash who have been tricked into supporting a more expensive system with rent seeking, completely un-necessary insurance companies.

[Anonymous No.12131191]

>>12131183
Around $500 per month

[Anonymous No.12131201]

>>12131169
You are right when you say that life isn't fair, I won't argue that point. But a single unexpected ER visit when you don't have health insurance can set you back $50k-100k. That's enough money to permanently ruin your life. We just need to provide basic insurance to people that prevents this. Basic doctor visits, basic prescriptions can easily be paid out of pocket. I won't debate that.
>>12131183
I get tax breaks for my insurance that cuts my healthcare costs from $400 a month to about $110 a month. The truth of the matter is without the affordable care act, it would cost me the full $400.

[Anonymous No.12131202]

>>12131183
That honestly depends on what area/region you are, including being in a major metropolitan area or not only 20 miles away let alone states away, which health insurance providers are around, your individual health circumstances, your group policy, etc. Also, anyone 26 or lower can piggy-back off their parents since the late aughts.

It's convoluted and stupid, and the Obama libs stepped in the wrong direction to muddy the waters in the guise of, "trust us, we know what we're doing guize!" which added more uncertainty and made it worse. Not to say that the recent repubs didn't self-sabotage themselves and made virtually no improvements except removing the mandatory nature of paying to be alive.

It's a goddamn mess, but not too hard to understand. Especially if your life is determined by it.

[Anonymous No.12131226]

Wow you anecdotally quoted 5k. Mines 6,555 a year for a family plan with a 6k per person or 12k total deductible. 18k a year plus the 6,555 my employer matches. So 24, 555 a year before insurance pays a dime. Or just 13k a year in profit for them a year.

[Anonymous No.12131229]

>>12131202
Convoluted is the key word. Everything is a goddamn hassle with healthcare in this country. But this is a massive country with a huge population so it's not as simple as some european countries.

[Anonymous No.12131238]

>>12131126
This is demonstrbaly unture and massiveky fake and gay.

[Anonymous No.12131279]

>>12130946
It's because of private insurance that they can get away with that. If insurance would stop paying those amounts, then they'd stop charging them. But if insurance stopped paying, then people wouldn't get that insurance anymore. And the cycle repeats. I'm not a universal-healthcare nut. Just sayin'. Other countries without privatized insurance don't have this problem.

[Anonymous No.12131297]

>>12131279
If insurance companies could cross state lines we might get actual competition to drive prices down

[Anonymous No.12131299]

>>12131041
>Food prices are cheap in the US
as long as you're not trying to buy fruit or vegetables.

[Anonymous No.12131453]

>>12131090
>have health insurance
>see a doctor
>pay

Explain

[Anonymous No.12131464]

>>12131090
And you're paying at least 5k for the insurance, probably more. You're no better off than the other americuck.

[Anonymous No.12131487]

>>12130946
>going to the doctor for anything that a cough drop would be prescribed for

it's like you are a dumb nigger, used to getting everything for free.

[Anonymous No.12131498]

>>12131487
If you're ever in the ER for something severe, they'll charge you $10-20 for a tylenol. Try to know what you're talking about before being stupid.

[Anonymous No.12131504]

Damn I just killed a rat and want to show people online

[Anonymous No.12131506]

>>12131498
he may be stupid, but anyone who is voting for Based & RP Yang is ok by me

[Anonymous No.12131514]

>>12130946
From what I understand, which is probably very little.

>insurance refuses to pay
>hospital insists they pay
>if insurance pays it won't be for another year to year and a half
>in order to make sure their costs are covered for this year, they have to make sure everyone was charged to death last year
>this is before absurd attorneys and shit

[Anonymous No.12131532]

>>12131504
absolute madman

[Anonymous No.12131541]

>>12131041

So get insurance mine is 50 a month.

[Anonymous No.12131542]

PAY FOR MY HEALTHCARE TAX KEKS

THIS A ROBBERY NIGGA

[Anonymous No.12131548]

Do you people just not have jobs that come with benefits like health insurance

[Anonymous No.12131556]

>>12131548
Most do not. And the ones that do come with bad coverage.

In before some union-fags.

[Anonymous No.12131560]

>>12130978
its a scam to get you to buy health insurance. the hospital board and insurance companies are in bed with each other

[Anonymous No.12131561]

>>12131542
>man cave
are amerilards really required by law to put warning signs in the rooms of people who are so fucking fat that the floor might cave in?

[Anonymous No.12131563]

>>12131015
No fucking kidding. I hope Nixon is fucking burning in hell for allowing the American healthcare industry to go for-profit. That was literally the beginning of the end.

[Anonymous No.12131566]

>>12131556

If you're working for starbucks or something, get a legitimate job/career you cum stain on society

[Anonymous No.12131569]

>>12131003
>le incel
You could at least try to hide the fact that your a redditourist.

[Anonymous No.12131570]

>>12131015
this

[Anonymous No.12131571]

>>12131090
based nonretard.

[Anonymous No.12131574]

>>12131548
I literally work at an engineering firm where the junior engineers and surveyors don't have insurance the entire year because they're not getting 30 hours/week during the winter. Anyone who's not a senior engineer gets kicked off around November and we all have to reenroll in May.

[Anonymous No.12131576]

>>12131563
The real beginning of the end for the middle class was ACA, oe "Obamacare."
My shit is insanely expensive now. Twice the premuims for a $5000 deductable instead of $0. Higher co-pays, too.

[Anonymous No.12131577]

>>12131566
>I'll just jump in my job cannon and blast off to jobland where jobs grow on jobbies

[Anonymous No.12131595]

>>12131050
>pay the insurance company directly
what on earth is direct about paying a health insurance company

[Anonymous No.12131608]

PAY. UP.

[Anonymous No.12131644]

>>12131090
>be in US
>pay health insurance like an adult
>wait for a few minutes
>see doc
>insurance decides they don't feel like paying
>stuck with $4000 bill for MRI and couldn't even get the injury treated

[Anonymous No.12131664]

why the american people aren't waging an all out war on insurance companies mystifies me.

[Anonymous No.12131667]

>>12130978
you forgot the tip

[Anonymous No.12131671]

im a medical debt collector and let me tell you having insurance is most definitely not a scam, that is if youre paying the right price

[Anonymous No.12131677]

>>12131644
>call insurance to see if you're covered
>find other avenues that were either covered or cheaper

[Anonymous No.12131680]

>>12131464
his employer probably pays for it, which comes from gross profits and reduces his wage, and he can't understand that.

but god forbid it was paid for through his taxes, literal gommunism
but if it

[Anonymous No.12131686]

>>12131541

How fucking poor are you to get subsidized 50 dollar insurance, or is that your employee copay?

[Anonymous No.12131695]

>>12131664
smug euro's will tell you about the murican dream and how we all think we'll be rich

in actuality its because the american people are secretly a sad, broken people. all we do is lie around crossing our fingers that things don't get even worse. and since whenever things change here it's usually for the worse, that means trying to maintain the status quo

[Anonymous No.12131709]

>>12131680
>American companies are making huge profits and paying for workers healthcare
>that’s slmehow bad, the government should be taking that money in taxes

Do you really think the government is financially efficient and would make better use of your insurance money than the free market? (It wouldn’t)

[Anonymous No.12131713]

>>12130946
Having always ever had insurance from work or medicaid, I've never had an issue. One of my ER visits was $100 after insurance plus $3 for antibiotics and pain killers combined. Get a job you retarded NEETS.

[Anonymous No.12131721]

>>12131532
Thanks dude gonna do a cat next

[Anonymous No.12131722]

>>12131713
Is paying $100 out of pocket for a doctor's visit considered a bargain in america? Fucking kek

[Anonymous No.12131725]

>be European
>50% of income goes directly to the government
>think your healthcare is free

[Anonymous No.12131727]

>>12131709
its literally adding another middle man which is nothing but extra bureacracy and waste.

and i know there's this meme about market efficiency, but its literally just that, just because the US government is grossly incompetent does not mean that muh free market is intrinsically frugal, corporations past the basement startup stage are loaded down with fat

[Anonymous No.12131731]

>>12131722
>ER
The emergency room for a life threatening condition can cost thousands. For a regular doctor's visit I pay between $0 and.

[Anonymous No.12131734]

>>12131731
*$0 - $20

[Anonymous No.12131736]

>>12131183
My dads healthcare( I’m 20) switched ‘without them knowing’ (I don’t know what that means) and so they’re back to 0 on their deductible. It’ll cost 450 dollars for me to get a small Pilar cyst removed just to go toward my deductible lol

[Anonymous No.12131740]

>>12131725
You don't understand how things work, do you? Bless.

[Anonymous No.12131746]

>>12131731
There's no reason an ER visit is necessarily going to cost more, numbnuts. The only distinguishing difference is that it's unscheduled.

[Anonymous No.12131748]

>>12131722
If you are under 26 or a student then you get your parents health care. If you are unemployed then you qualify for medicare which is 100% free even when I had to go to the ER for a severely broken leg and get immediate surgery. If you make shit money but still pay health care then it sucks. If you have a decent job with benefits it's definitely less expensive that paying the amount of taxes that Euros pay. I never pay more than a $20 copay and most of my meds are under $5. My family plan for me, spouse, and three kids is $500/month.

[Anonymous No.12131752]

>>12131727
>numerous companies all competing to offer the best and lowest cost service
>if one business finds a way to operate more efficiently, all competitors must also cut costs or risk being destroyed
vs
>one monolithic entity demands every single person to pay into it, with threat of jail

How could you possibly think the latter is more efficient than the prior?

[Anonymous No.12131761]

>>12131746
Of course it costs more. You are seeking immediate help generally overnight for life threatening conditions. It would still be expensive during the day when you can wait without going to the ER, because you are getting treated at a hospital for a life threatening condition. It costs pennies for a yearly check up at a primary doctor. It can cost a lot of money to get immediate, overnight, specialized help for highly severe illness/injury.

[Anonymous No.12131770]

>>12131761
>Of course it costs more
No, not of course. It can. It doesn't necessarily mean that it will. An ER visit can be relatively cheap depending on what you go for. While a scheduled procedure can be extremely expensive. Again, the only distinguishing function of the ER is that you can go there unscheduled for treatment. You can walk into the ER with a mild cough if you want. It's nothing to do severity or price, just scheduling, or lack thereof.

[Anonymous No.12131784]

>>12131752
>all competing to offer the best and lowest cost service
kek I feel bad for you if you actually think this. They have an unspoken agreement to jack up the prices as high as possible, nobody is competing for shit, except for how much they can get away with ripping off the american people for.

[Anonymous No.12131787]

>>12130978
I got drunk one night slipped in the bathroom and i was bleeding from the head so my roommates dragged me to the ER (even though they later told me that i told them to fuck off). I came to in a neck brace and was an obnoxious cunt till they got sick of it and fast tracked me out of there. Walked out that same night not a penny lighter for their trouble.

[Anonymous No.12131792]

>>12131752
>>numerous companies all competing to offer the best and lowest cost service
race to the bottom for the lowest cost maybe, the rest of the time is spent trying to obtain monopoly advantages and bribing policymakers. the insurance industry is among the worst for having a non-competitive stagnant nature

[Anonymous No.12131793]

>>12131770
>An ER visit can be relatively cheap depending on what you go for.
And I've been talking about life threatening conditions. What retard goes to the ER for a cough? If you go there, unless you're a retard, it's for something so severe that you can't wait to see a regular doctor the next day or go to an urgent care clinic instead.

[Anonymous No.12131798]

>>12131561
Now imagine why the healthy citizens don't want to pay for everyone else's health care, oh but wait I said the word "healthcare" so HE FUCKING DESERVES IT YOU ASSHOLES JUST FUCKING PAY FOR THE COUNTRY'S MEDICAL BILLS FUCKING REEEEE!

[Anonymous No.12131804]

>>12131792
>the insurance industry is among the worst for having a non-competitive stagnant nature
gee it's almost as if people are required by law to have it...

[Anonymous No.12131808]

>>12131793
>And I've been talking about life threatening conditions
Good for you. Not everyone goes there for such. In fact I would say in most cases it's not life threatening, or even close to it.

[Anonymous No.12131812]

>>12131808
Then you're an idiot and draining resources from people who really need the ER. What would possibly need to go in for that isn't causing you severe 10/10 pain or isn't obviously life threatening?

[Anonymous No.12131816]

>>12131808
>People go to the ER
>EMERGENCY
>ROOM
EMERGENCY ROOM, should I say that again? Or are you gonna side with people so stupid they sprain their ankle and schedule 6 visits with the ER?

[Anonymous No.12131820]

>>12131784
>>12131792
>there isn’t actually enough competition
>they bribe the government
And that’s your argument for removing all competition by putting it in the hands of the government?

[Anonymous No.12131821]

>>12131812
Pretty much any unexpected ailment they want treatment for and haven't made an appointment, since it happened unexpectedly. Anymore dumbass questions or are you done?

[Anonymous No.12131822]

>>12131812
dude i'm so sick of paying taxes and the government is required to pay if you don't. Go in pretend not to speak English and don't have identity on you and you're golden.

If i didn't do it someone else would and the only people you're hurting are fat fucks who'll have a heart attack and die when they send them the bill.

[Anonymous No.12131828]

>>12131821
So why can't you wait until like 7am the next day if it's just a little sore throat? People like you are the reason that medical care is out of control. You stubbed your fucking toe and rush to the ER with you unexpected ailment to have some one kiss it for you and put a bandaid on it. You are absolutely retarded.

[Anonymous No.12131829]

>>12131784
>they have an unspoken agreement to jack up prices nobody is competing for shit!
>>12131792
>they’re trying to obtain monopoly advantages and bribe policy makers in the government

This is your argument for removing all competitions by putting monopoly control in the hands of “policy makers”? Because that’s ironic.

[Anonymous No.12131834]

>>12131822
>the only people you're hurting are fat fucks
And all the fucking retards like >>12131821, but I'm guessing you're just like him and won't care until you're fucked over even more than you already are

[Anonymous No.12131837]

>>12131828
You can if you want, not everyone wants to wait a day for treatment. Or sometimes it's not always possibly to make an appointment the very next day, and they'll tell you you have to wait a week or two. Stop pretending like you don't know this already moron.