/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.11866525]

How do we encourage more of this?

[Anonymous No.11866533]

>>11866525
Shut up skellie

[Anonymous No.11866724]

At some point, the government will need to step in

[Anonymous No.11866786]

>>11866525
More what?
a plate with 150kcal on it and a 2/10 flavour?
Is that lemon rind on Mushrooms?

[Anonymous No.11866891]

>>11866786
I'm putting together a team.
Food paladins. To be arbiters of nutrition and decency in all things food.
Are you interested?

[Anonymous No.11866910]

>>11866891
oo0ooh Pars ley application form tee hee

[Anonymous No.11866939]

>>11866525
I would literally vomit if I tried to eat one mouthful of this. I'm not even joking. Vegetables need a rich sauce or they're impossible to stomach, or else they have to be incorporated into a soup.

[Anonymous No.11866982]

>>11866939
Maybe you have the gene that makes you sensitive to PTC (Phenylthiocarbamide). People who are able to taste it find brussel sprouts and other vegetables unpleasantly bitter.

[Anonymous No.11867000]

>>11866982
Nah, he's not even looking at the veggies individually. Wouldn't a person with that gene be alright with eating the slices of carrots and mushrooms ?
I think he just has a bad case of being used to swallow mouthfuls of high fructose corn syrup with fucking everything.

[Anonymous No.11867253]

>>11866525
Just add some meat. Only faggots are vegan.

[Anonymous No.11867260]

>>11866533
wow ive seen 5heads but that's a full 10head

[Anonymous No.11867327]

>>11866939
How obese are you? Come on, be real. I'm putting your weight at 20 stone and your age at 15, how'd I do?

[Anonymous No.11868075]

>>11866525
By executing people with an IQ under 100. Junk food tastes like total shit. It all tastes the same. Carbs, fat, canola oil, excessive amount of salt, artificial preservative. It's revolting.

>>11866724
At some point, ADULTS need to look after their own health and not need to be nannied by the fucking government. These are fully grown adults, not children.

[Anonymous No.11868082]

>>11866525
Looks nice, I'll try it as a side next to my steak or pork loin next time.

[Anonymous No.11868091]

>>11866525
>remove lobbies that push sugar, dairy, etc.
>limit or remove advertising for fast food and snacks like doritos
>remove corn, sugar, wheat and dairy subsidies

As long as america still exists, it probably won't happen

[Anonymous No.11868100]

>>11866525
>How do we encourage more of this?

Make people responsible for their own health care costs.

[Anonymous No.11868104]

>>11868091
>its a "dairy is bad for you" episode

All your ancestors ate dairy and every single one could've beat you up

[Anonymous No.11868106]

>>11868100
they already are in america

[Anonymous No.11868107]

>>11868100
Isn't that how it is in america? Doesn't seem to work

[Anonymous No.11868111]

>>11868104
dairy is not bad for you, but our ancestors did not eat and drink several forms of dairy in a day the way we do

[Anonymous No.11868115]

>>11868106
>>11868107
>they already are in america
No, they're not. Insurance aggregates costs.

[Anonymous No.11868124]

>>11868111
If they were farmers who had a cow/goat to produce milk, they actually COULD and WOULD have eaten several different forms of dairy on the regular. Milk, cheese, and yogurt. Upper classes would also have access to several forms. Stop acting like everyone in the past just ate a diet of dandelions and gruel.

[Anonymous No.11868125]

>>11868115
What about European countries who have government healthcare, they don't have as much of any issue with obesity as us. I'm not sure this has to do with anything, its not like people have enough foresight to stop eating like shit in fear of future health costs

[Anonymous No.11868135]

>>11866525
>carrots
>literally sugar sticks
>legumes
>literally starch bombs
Enjoy your diabetes.

[Anonymous No.11868136]

>>11868091
This, but direct those subsidies to sustainable farms. If even a fraction of the ag subsidies that go to these monoculture megacorporate bemoths who are hellbent on poisoning not only the soil and water, but the populace as well, we'd have large scale sustainable farms producing the same volume of food only it would be nutritious and healthy and w/o simultaneously turning the earth into a cinder block.

[Anonymous No.11868140]

>>11868125
>What about European countries who have government healthcare, they don't have as much of any issue with obesity as us.

I suspect that's because those countries didn't get industrialize food until far later. If you look at the data for world obesity, the US used to be at the top of the list, and England was not far behind. That's because the US and the UK were the first nations to industrialize food production, and those places where were cheap junk food was widely available first. Now those things are becoming commonplace in other countries, and as that happens their obesity rates skyrocket too.

The ultimate cause of obesity is lack of willpower combined with easily available cheap food, and that in turn is dependant on industrialization. Europe is now getting fat where as the US did it decades ago because we industrialized decades before.

>> its not like people have enough foresight to stop eating like shit in fear of future health costs
Eventually they will. The question is how many of their friends and family will they have to bury before they learn?

[Anonymous No.11868147]

>>11868100
Based and redpilled, checked
>>11868106
>>11868107
Obama created healthcare that gives free healthcare only to poor people who are already obese, pack per day smokers who drink too much. Have no idea why anybody thought that would be a good idea.

[Anonymous No.11868148]

>>11868136
>sustainable farms

College retard detected

[Anonymous No.11868153]

>>11868147
You're right, obesity wasn't a problem before Obamacare

[Anonymous No.11868165]

>>11868140
White people have low obesity rates. In fact none of the top thirty countries of fatasses is white. The UK is at # 33

https://renewbariatrics.com/obesity-rank-by-countries/

[Anonymous No.11868167]

>>11868124
Well those upper classes had problems like gout from eating those fatty foods like cheese.

Regardless, even if dairy isn't bad for you I still think it's production should not be subsidized

[Anonymous No.11868174]

>>11868167
Falling for the Muh subsidies meme

[Anonymous No.11868176]

>>11866786
Excuse me what the fuck is with that body?

[Anonymous No.11868178]

>>11868167
>um excuse me our ancestors didnt have access to several forms of dairy
>actually they did
>WELL THEY HAD GOUT FROM TOO MUCH CHEESE

you're pathetic

[Anonymous No.11868186]

>>11868100
Aren't semi-poor people the fattest already? Making them poorer wouldn't help unless it's to the extent where they starve

[Anonymous No.11868206]

>>11868186
the fat people are the ones who don't cook for whatever reason.
If you can afford fast food then you aren't truly poor.

I'm not advocating starving people to death. I'm advocating making people deal with the consequences of their own actions.

[Anonymous No.11868226]

>>11868206
> I'm advocating making people deal with the consequences of their own actions.

Haha what a retard like that's going to happen

[Anonymous No.11868243]

>>11868206
>If you can afford fast food then you aren't truly poor
Well no, but the obesity rampage is happening in the poorER classes. I don't think making their economic situation worse would help in any constructive way.

>I'm advocating making people deal with the consequences of their own actions.
They won't though. People are seeing their own kids get diabetes before they even hit puberty and they still won't stop feeding them shit. We either have to change the fast food industry or force fat people into rehabs.

[Anonymous No.11868249]

>>11868243
>We either have to change the fast food industry or force fat people into rehabs.
No, we don't.

We can let people who want to kill themselves by overeating do so.

[Anonymous No.11868251]

>>11868226
hey, I can dream can't I?

[Anonymous No.11868259]

>>11868249
Sure but the thread is about how to change it so

[Anonymous No.11868273]

>>11868259
if the fat people kill themselves does that not affect change?

[Anonymous No.11868277]

>>11868273
Doesn't seem like it, they reproduce too fast

[Anonymous No.11868282]

We need more awareness for our communities, especially health education in schools. To start.

Our kids are not learning the basic nutrition facts they should. Hell, most of our black kids think that the white people trying to pass a sugar tax are nothing but "racists." They don't even understand how much damage sugar does to our community.

[Anonymous No.11868289]

>>11868282
>Hell, most of our black kids think that the white people trying to pass a sugar tax are nothing but "racists."

They are racists. Data & statistics prove that the soda tax disproportionately affects the poor and African Americans more than anyone else.

Soda tax = tax on black people. period

[Anonymous No.11868294]

>>11868282

If they made vegetables cheaper in the inner cities, it would be a start. Shit... we pay $3 for a fucking apple here at my fucking fruit stand in NY. Poor people & blacks can't afford that price.

[Anonymous No.11868295]

>>11868289
Slow down esse us Mexicans are fatter than you and more us than you so we get the money now

[Anonymous No.11868298]

>>11868148
t. corporate bootlicker

[Anonymous No.11868301]

>>11868289
isn't it a GOOD thing that blacks are consuming less sodas when diabetes and heart disease kills more blacks than even other blacks?

[Anonymous No.11868305]

>>11868301
Sin taxes never make people stop buying the shit, it just makes them more broke

[Anonymous No.11868312]

>>11868301

Maybe some people just don't want to be helped. Did you ever think of that? I tried to teach some black kids at my school about the benefits of vegan foods and they just laughed and called me a privileged racist. Sometimes, you just can't fix stupid.

[Anonymous No.11868317]

>>11868305
Wouldn't they have to commit more crimes to pay for that tax? And then when they get shot while robbing a cop the city ends up paying $5 million to the family. Probs ends up costing them money's all in

[Anonymous No.11868321]

>>11868305

That's just ignorant. If you tax anything high enough, you'll change people's behavior.

[Anonymous No.11868338]

>>11868321
No, if you tax it high enough you create a black market, and then problems get even worse because now purity of the product becomes a concern, just like with the failed "war on drugs"

[Anonymous No.11868403]

What is it whith these monsanto vegan shills shitting up /ck/ lately? This place is worse than /pol/

[Anonymous No.11868421]

>>11868321
>t.ignorant.california.liberal

Yes, because we all know how effective the alcohol prohibition was. I'm sure sugar prohibition will work out exactly like you imagine.

[Anonymous No.11868431]

>>11868176
That's the modern male body on modern post-industrial "food"
and it's beautiful

[Anonymous No.11868440]

>>11868282
>. Hell, most of our black kids think that the white people trying to pass a sugar tax are nothing but "racists."

This is exactly what happened here in Atlanta. Our sugar tax bill got killed because it got turned from a health issue into a race issue and all the blacks voted against it.

Forcing a population of people to change their culture just because you think their eating habits are "morally wrong" is by definition, racist.

[Anonymous No.11868451]

>>11868167
>he doesn't know about how margarine development was pushed by the old european elite to return butter consumption to their exclusive "class right"

[Anonymous No.11868458]

>>11868321
Are you retarded

[Anonymous No.11868463]

>>11868403
It's /pol/ falseflaggers, not vegans, posting these threads to make it appear meat eating is under a full scale assault on every front. It's a well known tactic they routinely use.

[Anonymous No.11868465]

>>11868440

ITT: trying to get blacks to eat healthier = racist

This is some twisted, white boy mental gymnastics right there.

[Anonymous No.11868472]

>>11866525
Carpet bomb the flyover states

[Anonymous No.11868474]

>>11868282
>>11868440
Taxes won't change the situation. Awareness, information, and the accessibility of alternatives is the only way to change these things.

[Anonymous No.11868481]

>>11868075
>free will! Gubmint off mah back!
>except to be alive, the government should decide that

[Anonymous No.11868484]

>>11868472
>Carpet bomb the flyover states

Yes, please tell us how you really feel about america's blacks.

[Anonymous No.11868490]

>>11868484
You all look the same to me

[Anonymous No.11868500]

>>11868321
>Make cheap sugar-packed "product" more expensive to consumers
>Healthy alternatives raise their prices and the agri-business complex laughs on their way to the bank
>poor people get even more poor and resort to eating even more shit

taXEs fIx eVeRyThiNG

[Anonymous No.11868503]

>>11868481
If people are so stupid that they have to be protected from themselves, then they don't deserve to live. There's no hypocrisy in that. Your projection makes it obvious you're both stupid and insecure.

[Anonymous No.11868505]

>>11868474
Tax policy is how we got massive obesity in the first place. Or do policy effects only count when you’re actually looking?

[Anonymous No.11868513]

>>11868338
Pushing users further into criminality and potential poisoning are collateral damage, but it's naive to think criminalization/taxation won't negatively affect the number of users.

Most people are too lazy to seek out criminal channels.

[Anonymous No.11868514]

>>11868503
Cheap cop out. You only propose an outlandish solution because you’re too dimewitted to think of a more realistic one

[Anonymous No.11868520]

>>11868338
Oh yeah, the underground HFCS markets will be popping up everywhere cranking out soda that’s cheaper than water. That will definitely happen

[Anonymous No.11868556]

>>11868514
It's not outlandish at all. You do realize genocide has happened many times before? We have to put obese people and brainlets in camps (this includes you), while the normal, intelligent, responsible people get to keep their rights.

[Anonymous No.11868584]

>>11868556
>You do realize genocide has happened many times before?
Yes. And it's failed to achieve its goals every time.

[Anonymous No.11868591]

>>11868556
Ok edgelord, good luck getting people to sign up for the “kill everyone I don’t agree with” platform. You have all kinds of charisma and I am sure you can get yourself installed as dictator any minute now

[Anonymous No.11868593]

>>11868474
Natsoc, communism or religion are the only way to fix things, government needs to reform the entire culture and drill ethical behaviour back into the population.

Modern liberalism only has the appearance of being ethical, but it's completely internally inconsistent ... it's the absence of ethics.

[Anonymous No.11868605]

>>11868465
>ITT: trying to get blacks to eat healthier = racist

Who the fuck are you to tell other people how to live their lives? Do you think you're some type of authority on life & food?

[Anonymous No.11868611]

>>11868584
>what is manifest destiny?
I don't agree with manifest destiny but that genocide was clearly successful. The english got to keep all the land and resources to this very day. There are probably many more examples of successful genocides outside of western history, but I don't know too much African or Asian history.

[Anonymous No.11868621]

>>11868593
Liberal Technocracy is the ultimate form of government because unlike fascism it emphasizes goals over loyalties, facts over feelings, efficacy over obligations

The reason Hitler failed was because he genuinely bought into the idea that the Master Race could conquer the entire Western world by playing Wagner on vinyl and building a few expensive wonder jets instead of millions of cheap reciprocating engine fighters

[Anonymous No.11868647]

>>11868584
>>11868591
Insecure, obese brainlets spotted. You guys are a parasite to society, everyone recognizes this. Here is an excerpt that should trigger you guys, but I'd be surprised if you have the reading comprehension required to understand anything more complicated than a CNN/Fox News headline.

>Body mass index (BMI) and intelligence appear to be negatively correlated, particularly in late adulthood [12–14]. However, rather than being attributable to common underlying mechanisms and parallel development, this relationship seems to be serial, although the direction of causation is disputed. Some suggest that obesity leads to vascular risk factors that cause or exacerbate neurodegeneration, thereby resulting in greater cognitive decline [14–16]. Others argue that more intelligent people generally maintain a more normal BMI, as they are more likely to eat a healthy diet and to exercise regularly [17–19].

[Anonymous No.11868653]

>>11868621
liberal bureaucracy is the antithesis of efficiency

also, the germans could crank out a disproportionate number of piston-engine fighters than anyone else could, given the size of the country, because they were much farther ahead when it came to closed-die forging of alloys.

what dose any of this have to do with food though? back on topic.

[Anonymous No.11868672]

>>11868621
>Technocracy
guaranteed to be corrupt with power in the hands of so few

[Anonymous No.11868684]

>>11868104
>>11868124
>saying to remove dairy subsidies means you think dairy is unhealthy
Calm down, farmer Joe. Everyone just thinks it's time to stop paying companies to raise and milk cattle for a product we don't even use. Dairy subsidies are an insane waste of money; it's literally the government subsidizing a non-lucrative lifestyle so a couple hundred farmers won't starve or have to learn an actual skill.

[Anonymous No.11868700]

Genocide all carnists

[Anonymous No.11868712]

>>11868605
>>ITT: trying to get blacks to eat healthier = racist

why the fuck do you care what black people eat? if someone don't mind being a little big, what the fuck do you care? mind your own fucking business.

[Anonymous No.11868881]

>>11868621
>Liberal Technocracy
There is nothing technocratic about modern liberalism. It has almost no goals it can agree on when you get right down to it.

Stop the war, start bombing Assad. Increase wellfare and increase the wellfare dependent population through mass third world immigration and increase the race to the bottom through globalization. Religion is icky but you can't be Islamophobic.

The hard left isn't like that, but modern liberals are.

[Anonymous No.11868907]

>>11868440
>Forcing a population of people to change their culture just because you think their eating habits are "morally wrong" is by definition, racist.

Yes and that's why only racists can improve the world.

[Anonymous No.11869525]

>>11868463
I want all unironic /pol/ posters to shoot themselves

[Anonymous No.11870975]

I want faggot jannies that nuke threads the instant it goes in a discussion direction they don't like to die.

[Anonymous No.11871405]

>>11866525
That looks like a tasty side dish for my steak.
Or I could use 'em in a pot roast.
Oh! Lamb stew!! Fuck yeah!

Thanks for the ideas, op.

[Anonymous No.11871451]

Who cares if people only eat meat. There is literally nothing from with Americans being predominantly obese with high blood pressure.

[Anonymous No.11871469]

>>11871451
Huh?

[Anonymous No.11871542]

>>11867260
He developed that condition as a result of a long vegan period earlier in his life.

[Anonymous No.11871550]

>>11866786
Is this achievable natty?