Why aren't you vegan yet?

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Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:41:40 2019 No.11865267 [Reply] [Original]

Why aren't you vegan yet?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:42:41 2019 No.11865274 Is it because you're a lazy, slob faggot?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:43:19 2019 No.11865280 why wouldnt you eat a bruised banana

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:44:05 2019 No.11865285 >>11865267 eww it's all mushy though

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:44:37 2019 No.11865287 Incoming Carneyfag meltdown

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:50:50 2019 No.11865316 >>11865287 Kek. I bet he'll post about YouTube and use a logical fallacy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:53:14 2019 No.11865332 >>11865267 But if we all go vegan how will you feel superior to everyone when you tell them your vegan ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:53:44 2019 No.11865335 >>11865267 But sausage and chicken nuggets are made of none of that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:56:00 2019 No.11865360 >>11865267 >won't eat a bruised banana because those are saved to get used in banana bread you fucking retard

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:58:43 2019 No.11865371 >>11865335 by sausage he meant hot dog because he's a brit or some shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:59:04 2019 No.11865373 >>11865332 I'll have gone vegan in 2019, which makes me better than you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:59:25 2019 No.11865374 >>11865267 okay, this is epic

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:59:45 2019 No.11865378 >>11865267 the banana is rotting from oxidation, the others are not.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 17:59:54 2019 No.11865380 >>11865267 What does veganism have to do with your pic?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:00:30 2019 No.11865387 >>11865371 Hotdogs are literally gelatin sludge, which are chicken niggers as well.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:01:41 2019 No.11865397 >>11865373 >>11865380 Vegans think that if you're not vegan then you don't eat anything else but meat, it stems from their single minded thinking

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:06:44 2019 No.11865421 >>11865397 Nice strawman nonargument. You eat meat. You eat the flesh of other beings because you're a shit person. Get off my board, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:07:53 2019 No.11865429 >>11865421 Based veGOD

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:08:27 2019 No.11865430 >>11865421 >>11865421 Where have I said I eat meat oO

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:09:10 2019 No.11865436 >>11865429 Based veGOD

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:09:45 2019 No.11865438

>>11865387
So you're saying that what he said is the same thing that you're saying?

Wow

It's almost as if there was no point in me clarifying that point for you so you could repeat the same thing that the OP said

huh

thanks anon

hopefully this way of typing pisses you off when you read this reply

thanks for the (You)

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:13:59 2019 No.11865454 >>11865438 I'm vegan

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:14:11 2019 No.11865455 >>11865267 I don't eat processed meat. And slightly bruised banannas are healthy af.

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:20:08 2019 No.11865480

>>11865267
There aren't a lot of convenient alternatives to meat. If tofu was much cheaper and available, if fake meat tasted better, or even if I was culturally exposed to more healthy vegan dishes. At the very least I would be likely to significantly reduce my meat consumption. But instead of actually pushing veganism, I see this race-to-the-bottom philosophy moralizing and denigrating non-vegans and using the dietary choice as a fucking lifestyle. I think vegans rarely use the only good argument for veganism: that it is marginally better for the environment.

Maybe in 20 years all of my complaints will have been addressed and I'll eat barely any/no meat. Until then I'm pretty comfortable eating a couple pounds of chicken every week + maybe some beef sausage.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:26:39 2019 No.11865501 >>11865455 Have you kicked dairy yet? Good for you. When I stopped eating meat my diabetes sorted itself out. Meat is cancer.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:32:40 2019 No.11865520 File: 40 KB, 1300x1000, 1541151062792.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865267 im allergic to bananas. i used to love them as a kid but then my tongue started to get cut up by them. shit sucks man.

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:40:26 2019 No.11865546

I do not give a fuck. Your precious bleeding heart opinions pass over me like the haley's comet. >>11865501
thats an argument i can atleast roll with because its an actual fucking argument. We. Are. Animals. Even vegetarian animals will eat animal products if they have the chance to because its a primary source of important-ass shit. your precious and magestic deer is very much happy to feist on a rabbit but you mong decided to go vegan because "meat is murder" yea well guess what thats the way nature evolved. Instead of living your life like a microbial molusk maybe critically think about what options you have.
Just because i eat meat dosent mean i dont eat veggies. Fuck I even cook with tofu sometimes because a varied diet is cool. I didnt come to a hungarian basket-weaving board to hear about your god damn ethics. I came here to talk to people that like to fucking cook. If you think we badly treat animals, then we agree on something but that dosent mean you need to throw the baby with the bathwater. Just talk to your butcher about where the food comes from or hunt or fish or do anything but fucking whine on the internet to people that coulnt care less about your baseless feeling-based useless-ass fucking arguments!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:41:31 2019 No.11865550 >>11865267 >>11865274 >>11865280 >>11865287 >>11865316 Samefagging faggot, samefags in his thread

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:46:54 2019 No.11865577

>>11865421
>animals are beings equivalent to people

If animals are beings equivalent to people, then we should hold them to the same standards as we do. Thus a lion eating a zebra is inherently immoral and a lion should be subject to human morality.

If we cannot hold animals up to our standard of morality because they are incapable, then they are inferior beings to us. Thus there is no moral obligation to not eat them.

You can't hold humans to a higher standard than animals are given and still demand that animals be treated as equals to humans. Animals are inferior to humans.

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:49:17 2019 No.11865586

>>11865480
>if tofu was much cheaper and available
What part of Nebraska do you live in where it isn’t?

>But instead of actually pushing veganism, I see this race-to-the-bottom philosophy moralizing and denigrating non-vegans and using the dietary choice as a fucking lifestyle.
Dont blame me for unearthing your guilty subconscious

>that it is marginally better for the environment.
“Marginally”, try IMMENSELY. Yet you still decide to shovel your hole with pounds of meat a week.

>oh woe is me the vegans are out to get me!!!
Pansy faggot

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 18:52:31 2019 No.11865595

>>11865577
Animals are not equivalent. This doesn’t necessitate a mass slaughter for your own uncontrollable urges to kill.

>were not like animals but lions eat meat!!!
You may the intellect of a wild animal but you are not one. You are not an obligate carnivore. You don’t require meat and you have the capacity to choose not to

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 19:02:21 2019 No.11865632 >>11865267 Nuggets are delicious. Bruises on bananas have a horrible texture and a rotten sickly sweet flavor. In fact I would go so far as to say that bananas are evil and make you gay. I will give my son all fruits except bananas.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 19:11:23 2019 No.11865667 Why would I change my diet? None of these arguments actually mean much of anything in the whole scheme of tastiness. Vegans can go fuck themselves.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 19:12:41 2019 No.11865671 >>11865595 Umm sweety I identify as a wild animal. Only a bigot would say I cant eat what ever animals I want

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 19:13:53 2019 No.11865675 Only homosexuals eat bananas

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 19:14:58 2019 No.11865681
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>>11865632
>In fact I would go so far as to say that bananas are evil and make you gay.
Whoa-uhh hold on there. This is getting so out right ridiculous I think it gave me cancer. Try one of my peanut butter banana sandwiches, big as your fist.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 19:16:26 2019 No.11865690 File: 67 KB, 508x767, Ass Eat it Faggot.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865267 he doesnt like to eat bumholes >never seen this pic of alexa

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 19:34:55 2019 No.11865752 >>11865690 There's a difference between chewing on a mound star and literally consuming pig assholes. Dumbass.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 19:38:29 2019 No.11865770 >>11865267 Bruised bananas are lame, I eat them while they're still a little green anyways.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 19:46:16 2019 No.11865796 >>11865770 Fag

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 19:47:12 2019 No.11865801 >>11865770 Fagit

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 19:50:25 2019 No.11865815

>>11865595
>Animals are not equivalent. This doesn’t necessitate a mass slaughter for your own uncontrollable urges to kill.
If animals are not equivalent then there isn't any moral stipulations to eating them.
>urges to kill
I have urges to eat, just like all other species. Killing is merely a means to an end and all creatures do it, weather they are killing a plant or another animal. I am justified in killing in order to feed myself just like any other creature. Why is it okay for me to kill plants to consume them but not animals? Is where is the line drawn? I may be a human and have the intellectual capacity to understand right from wrong, but my survival takes precedence over morality. I'd kill another human would my survival necessitate it. Just like I kill plants and animals so I can survive.

>>11865595
>>were not like animals but lions eat meat!!!
You're simply an idiot who missed the point. I'm posing the question that shows the inherent contradiction in YOUR reasoning. If humans are not wild animals like lions and have a higher moral standard then we are superior to animals and we don't need to treat them equally, If we are equivalent to animals then we should be held to the same standard as them, or them to us. You state that we not equivalent to them thus heeding them as people is pointless.

>You may the intellect of a wild animal but you are not one. You are not an obligate carnivore. You don’t require meat and you have the capacity to choose not to.

I'm reiterating myself here but the fact that a human knows right from wrong unlike a lion thus should not kill animals is not a valid point. If a lion was as intelligent as a human and knew right from wrong would we expect it to not kill zebra? No it still requires killing zebra, buffalo ect to survive. Right from wrong is irrelevant when you have to survive. You say that well humans are also Omnivores and don't require meat AND know right from wrong, thus we shouldn't eat because we have a choice

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 19:57:12 2019 No.11865839

>>11865595
>>11865815
cont

But humans DO require meat, at least to be healthy. There are essential vitamins that animals products that are not found in plants that we require to function optimally. My grandfather who was a vegan for most of his life suffered severely from vitamin deficiencies such as B12 and ended up getting cancer.

And again, we agree that animals are not equivalent, but you state we should still not kill them. Plants are also not equivalent but killing them is fine, even though many of them live very complex lives if at a much different time scale. What arbitrary distinction is there between two inferior types of organism where it's okay to kill one but not the other?

Humans require meat to be healthy.

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 19:58:04 2019 No.11865842

>>11865815
>If animals are not equivalent then there isn't any moral stipulations to eating them.
And this is based on what? What is the trait that necessitates animal slaughter for your fat gullet?

>I have urges to eat, just like all other species.
So you just act out on every urge you have like a mentally unstable lunatic?

>Killing is merely a means to an end and all creatures do it, weather they are killing a plant or another animal.. Why is “they do it too!!!” an excuse? You’re literally equivocating yourself with animals then saying they’re not equal. Do you condone rape on the grounds of “other people do it too!!” or are you someone that isn’t a fucking two year old, mentally?

>Why is it okay for me to kill plants to consume them but not animals?
Plants are not sentient, they have zero nociceptors to feel pain or any ability to experience reality. If you want to go down this retarded path you literally point towards veganism considering youre killing less plants by only eating plants rather than eating an animal that eats plants

>my survival
You can survive without animals, you’re just a fucking idiot with grade school level arguments against veganism. Thank you, next!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:00:52 2019 No.11865849 File: 435 KB, 960x720, chubby_puppies.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865267 Because deep fried nursing puppies on a bed of fried spinach with a wasabi cream dipping sauce are so fucking delicious.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:01:21 2019 No.11865852 I'm working on it. Dairy is hella hard to give up and not all restaurants have good vegan options, but they might have good vegetarian options... I always cook vegan at home, but I might still eat dairy when I eat out.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:01:35 2019 No.11865853 >>11865842 lol faggot go eat some grass

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:02:18 2019 No.11865855

>>11865815
>You're simply an idiot who missed the point.
You have no point. You’re desperately trying to trap me in a contradiction by strawmanning a point I didn’t make. You’re literally equivocating yourself to a lion then complaining about not killing animals for food because theyre not equal

>If humans are not wild animals like lions and have a higher moral standard then we are superior to animals and we don't need to treat them equally
That doesn’t mean you have to slaughter them. You realize you can not slaughter an animal and also not give them voting rights, right? Of course you don’t you stupid dipshit

>should not kill animals is not a valid point.
Wow great fucking argument, retard. You said so, so it must be true! Are you a lion or not?

You’re flip flopping from “lion eat meat!!!” to “we”re not equal!! kill them all!”

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:04:30 2019 No.11865865

>>11865839
The only thing you can’t find in sufficient amounts in plants is B12. So you supplement it. What exactly is the issue? B12 is a bacteria, it is not made by animal tissue

>plants are people too!!!
God you’re such a fucking moron. They literally have zero sentience or ability to experience reality.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:05:31 2019 No.11865866 >>11865853 Stay pressed, fatboy.

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:06:15 2019 No.11865870

>>11865855
he's not great at debating but you're being willfully obtuse because you literally don't have a retort

>oh what you want me to tell you why you shouldn't eat meat? cause I'll tell you, oh yes I'll tell you. haha imagine, me not having a reason for you not to eat meat, cause I'm going to say it right now

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:08:18 2019 No.11865878

>>11865870
>oh what you want me to tell you why you shouldn't eat meat?
Nothing of that sort has even been posed as a question. You’re just desperate because you’re a stupid retard with zero justification so now you need to strawman and hiss from the side like a 12 year old cheerleader

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:10:39 2019 No.11865887

>>11865866
>using niggerspeak to talk shit
you think you're really cool lol. let me guess you're 18-23 and you either just finished college or going to some liberal waste of money. you started being vegan because some tatood whore and now you're on a crusade to make as many people as miserable as you because you can't just be content living your own life

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:11:05 2019 No.11865889 >>11865267 if that banana was black i would deep throat it

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:11:44 2019 No.11865890 >>11865878 why are you such a catty bitch? and still you're stalling give me a good reason to not eat meat other than "muh false moral equivalency"

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:12:03 2019 No.11865891 >>11865267 I'd eat both. Or put the banana in the freezer if it's badly bruised. Make some banana walnut bread with it later.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:12:11 2019 No.11865892 >>11865887 Lol u mad bro? Yeah u mad

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:16:37 2019 No.11865913 >>11865892 >phoneposting fag gets read so hard he unironically tries u mad bro in 2019 we're done here

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:16:44 2019 No.11865914

>>11865890
Why are you such a whiny faggot? “Stop talking like that it triggers me!!!” Lol stupid bitch.

>give me
Oh so you were just samefagging all along? Lmao how pathetic. This little strawman you’re doing wasnt even a thing until last post. You’re the one who’s giving the shitty reasoning as to why you should eat meat, chump. I’ve already explained youre a fat psycho with no self control who’s enslaved to his tastebuds. You don’t need meat for any health reasons, it’s horrible for you, it’s horrible for the environment, it’s morally abhorrent and veganism as the alternative is objectively/factually superior and sustainable

>waaah convince me against my predetermined biases!!!
Eat shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:17:46 2019 No.11865919 >>11865913 Lol running away like a little crying bitch because the big strong VeGOD triggered you Stay PRESSED ;)

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:21:31 2019 No.11865930 >>11865914 >haha samefag!!! I win!!! I'm not but it's funny how pathetic you are being just imagining I'm the same guy who left earlier

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:22:42 2019 No.11865936 >>11865919 post a body pic

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:28:05 2019 No.11865956 Vegans get their nutrients from bull sperm

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:28:45 2019 No.11865958 >>11865930 Its funnier how you completely abandoned the actual discussion after getting blown the fuck out. >>11865936 Ask your mother

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:28:48 2019 No.11865959 veganfag mad he doesn't know how to check for samefag and that nobody wants to join his cult. fin.

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:32:29 2019 No.11865969

>>11865958
what discussion? you, seething, trying to "out" me as a samefag so you could make some argument I have no interest in?
>asks vegan for reason not to eat meat
>"reeee fuck you carnist!! I shouldn't have to give you a reason just do it reeeeee"

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:36:21 2019 No.11865978

>>11865969
>what discussion
At least you’re being honest that your argument of saying you’re a lion and then saying we aren’t lions was retarded.

>asks vegan for reason not to eat meat
I gave you the reason here >>11865914
but I guess that’s when you briefly left or you’re just an illiterate sub 40 IQ fat fuck

What discussion were we having before that? The one where you said “that guy is a shitty debater” or the one where you talked about being a lion and pretended you weren’t samefagging?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:40:01 2019 No.11865989 >>11865978 again, retard, I never mentioned lions. you still really think I'm the same guy from earlier lul fucking newfag tourist go home

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:41:19 2019 No.11865993 >>11865930 >>11865842

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:42:45 2019 No.11865997 File: 26 KB, 563x182, Screenshot_20190205-174135_Clover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865978 >>11865993 btfo now fuck off retard

Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:45:29 2019 No.11866004

>>11865989
You never mentioned lions but then when referring to not answering the “other guys” question which he didn’t even ask, you said “you didn’t answer me yet!!”

I also notice you dodged the fact I gave you an answer to whatever personalities question it was. All you’re doing is crying like a little woman that you got blown the fuck out no matter who you are which is why you’re being a catty little bitch right now :)

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:47:07 2019 No.11866008 >>11865997 Anyone can edit a script, retard. It’s funny how you’re so much more defensive about being called for samefagging than you are for any other point you’re making

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:48:21 2019 No.11866013 >>11865267 I'll call your bluff faggot i don't mind bruised bananas. Now you have to raise the stakes(steaks) and eat all the bumholes and eyelids. Bet you can't do it faggot.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:48:22 2019 No.11866012 File: 63 KB, 636x628, 7EB41D77-81AA-4BF9-95B8-F6D854FD7489.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] As usual, carnists have a complete mental breakdown once you expose their cognitive dissonances and turn everything into meta-autism

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:54:10 2019 No.11866029 >>11866012 >truth about meat industry What about meat industry, fag? As long as my tummy gets satisfied, I don't really give a flying fuck.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:55:48 2019 No.11866034 >>11865267 Well for one thing, I like meat still & have no intententions to stop liking it. So there's that.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 20:59:33 2019 No.11866044 >>11866029 Cool. Hope you have no problem with a rapist getting their dick satisfied >>11866034 >intententions Found one

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 5 21:31:26 2019 No.11866135 >>11866044 >rapist getting their dick satisfied As long as they are raping thots and sluts, no worries.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 04:25:25 2019 No.11867315 >>11865865 he didn't say plants are people retard he said why is it okay to kill plants but not animals also what about bugs bugs are also living creatures

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 05:19:23 2019 No.11867408 Because I'm not a faggot.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 05:31:29 2019 No.11867425
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Vegans are faggots. It's a disease.

Not only does processing and eating meat come naturally to humans, it’s entirely possible that without an early diet that included generous amounts of animal protein, we wouldn’t even have become human—at least not the modern, verbal, intelligent humans we are.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 05:35:52 2019 No.11867435 >>11867425 is being vegetarian okay and not a disease

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 05:37:36 2019 No.11867436 File: 40 KB, 500x323, my face my soul 2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865267 aren't bumholes, noses and ears technically just skin and cartilage?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 05:38:09 2019 No.11867438 File: 792 KB, 770x578, british_bangers_sausages.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865371 do americans call these hot dogs?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 05:41:03 2019 No.11867441 >>11867436 >cartilage bumholes I hope not. I hope the bumhole is fleshy- it's likely the best part of any hotdog. Faggots who won't eat all parts of the animal are just as bad as faggots who won't eat a bruised banana. Wasteful arrogance.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 05:42:10 2019 No.11867442 >>11867441 cartilage and skin contains many nutrients that my body needs.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 05:57:38 2019 No.11867462 >>11865267 /ve/gan containment board when?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 05:59:50 2019 No.11867467 >>11867462 I'd rather they keep showing up here and to continue taking massive meat-powered shits on them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 06:30:58 2019 No.11867509 >>11865421 That's nice.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 06:33:27 2019 No.11867511 >>11866012 You haven't said anything useful at all in this thread. And yes, we all know it's you samefagging it up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 06:36:04 2019 No.11867517 >>11865842 >thank you, next Wow, so reddit. Much meme.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 06:44:07 2019 No.11867534 >>11867425 It's amazing how the human brain which is entirely fueled by carbohydrates somehow gains superpowers from eating carbohydrate free carcasses.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 06:46:52 2019 No.11867536 >>11867534 It's almost like our bodies can convert fat and protein into sugars.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 06:47:31 2019 No.11867537
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>>11865267
Because I don't want to be a toothless emaciated skeleton like you.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 06:49:11 2019 No.11867543 one of the worst threads i've seen on any board

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 06:54:58 2019 No.11867548
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>>11865914
If someone who hates me as much as you do, "advises" me to eat a certain way (vegan for example) I will automatically do the opposite, for my health and safety.

You hate me so much, it is obvious that any "advice" you gave me would be for the purpose of killing me (ie vegan diet) I will avoid this living death by eating a lot of meat.

Please starve yourself to death though!!k

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 07:04:44 2019 No.11867561 >>11865421 >killing other creatures to survive is morally wrong >literally been doing it as far back as humans have been around >key component of our dietary needs Kill yourself you soyboy cumgargling faggot

>>	u/Y0gaGeek Wed Feb 6 07:05:32 2019 No.11867563 File: 684 KB, 4032x1960, 4493A462-1A98-42E8-844C-C7D629F9DF45.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] When you find Beyond Burgers on sale for $3.98, you make room!

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 07:10:14 2019 No.11867575 >>11867563 In the dumpster.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 07:11:43 2019 No.11867579 >>11867563 >all that plastic mmm i love being conscious of the environment

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 07:13:40 2019 No.11867584 >>11865267 Vegans are gay. I’m not. So I’m not a vegan. If you love animals so much, join peta and own a nature reserve to give back to those precious retarded animals.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 07:14:21 2019 No.11867585 Vegans are gigantic hypocrites.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 07:16:20 2019 No.11867589 >>11865267 bumholes, noses, ears, veins and bones are delicious, but that bruised part tastes really weird

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>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 09:17:35 2019 No.11867832 >>11865595 >This doesn’t necessitate a mass slaughter You do realize though that if the entire world were to go vegan, there would have to be a mass, mass slaughter of livestock, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 09:28:13 2019 No.11867863 >>11865267 Because I have a soul and human intelligence.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 09:29:11 2019 No.11867867 >>11867832 No, not right. You just keep all the livestock in the system until they are slaughtered, while not breeding any more. Veganism is stupid as hell but this particular argument is even moreso.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 09:37:43 2019 No.11867884

>>11867832
Vegans actual answer to this question is thus-

A. This will be a gradual shift, not weworldwide dump of animals out of ranches or etc.

B. The cows will be taken in by animal sanctuaries, where they ARE STERILIZED TO KILL OFF THE SPECIES and the individual cows will be provided for as they age and die, forever.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 10:05:40 2019 No.11867940

>>11867867
What about dairy cows, that generally aren't slaughtered, but require breeding as part of their production of milk?

>>11867884
Animal sanctuaries struggle as it is for space for cats and dogs, how do you think they're going to deal with 30,000,000 cows? That's in Australia alone.
Where are they going to get the space for them to live? Where are they going to get the space to grow hay and pasture to feed them? On the farms they come from? The same farms that are probably now having to use that land to grow vegetables and what not to feed people?

Oh but you said gradually. So how gradually? Do we take, say 10,000 cows at a time and wait for them to die off of natural causes? Then 10-20 years later when that lots dead, take another 10,000 cows in to these sanctuaries?

Also, who is going to enforce these hypothetical changes?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 10:13:49 2019 No.11867949 ITT: detestable slave morality and pathological altruism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 10:17:54 2019 No.11867953 >>11867940 >What about dairy cows, that generally aren't slaughtered, but require breeding as part of their production of milk? No different. Stop breeding more, let the ones already in the system live out their days until they die.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 10:22:47 2019 No.11867965 >>11865332 Become a raw-food-vegan.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 10:30:55 2019 No.11867983

>>11867953
>Stop breeding more, let the ones already in the system live out their days until they die.

So a dairy cow, that's say 3 years old, will no longer be breed? You know that means she won't produce milk any more? That will make her effectively useless to the farmer. And you know that cows can live up to 20 years? So say she lives to 17 years old before dying of natural causes, that'll be 14 years where she is not making the farmer any money. However she will be costing the farmer money, in terms of feed, drenching, living space that could be used to grow crops, etc, etc.
You do realize that at this point the farmer will decided that a box of bullet and renting a backhoe is cheaper then that?

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Anonymous Wed Feb 6 10:42:07 2019 No.11868010

>>11867983
>You know that means she won't produce milk any more?
Of course.

>That will make her effectively useless to the farmer
Yes.

>>However she will be costing the farmer money, in terms of feed, drenching, living space that could be used to grow crops, etc, etc.
Of course.

>>You do realize that at this point the farmer will decided that a box of bullet and renting a backhoe is cheaper then that?
Probably.
I'm not sure what your point is. That it's expensive to keep a non-producing dairy cow around? sure. Nobody is denying that. But it's a cost the vegans are happy to pay in order to solve the problem that they see in their mind. I'm not sure why this confuses you.

I agree with you that it's stupid, but how can you not see that the vegans are willing to pay, despite how stupid it may be?

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 10:51:10 2019 No.11868039

>>11868010
>>You do realize that at this point the farmer will decided that a box of bullet and renting a backhoe is cheaper then that?
>Probably.

Which means that dairy cows will be killed on mass, as there are currently estimated to be approximately 250 million dairy cows in the world, which is the point I first made.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 10:53:15 2019 No.11868044 >>11868039 >Which means that dairy cows will be killed on mass Not necessarily. I'm sure if the vegans had they way they'd try and use government funding of some kind to keep the cows alive. then again, we know that PETA kills animals so who knows?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 10:57:01 2019 No.11868056 >>11868044 >release cows into the wild >eaten by wolves ANIMAL LIBERATION COMPLETE

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 11:06:57 2019 No.11868084 >>11868056 Who said anything about releasing cows into the wild?

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 11:09:39 2019 No.11868092
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>>11868084
Oh, pardon me. I did not realize that the vegans that are for "animal liberation" will personally take in... about... 5 cows, 3 pigs, and 12 chickens each into their flats so as to give them a "life they deserve."

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 11:12:27 2019 No.11868097 >>11868092 Why are you ignoring the statement which made this clear? >>I'm sure if the vegans had they way they'd try and use government funding of some kind to keep the cows alive.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 11:15:46 2019 No.11868103 Vegans have AIDS and go around giving out the gay in soymilk-from-the-weenie form.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 11:18:09 2019 No.11868109

>>11868097
>fund cows, pigs, chickens living in artificially created reservations through taxation
>cows, pigs, chickens keep multiplying
>higher and higher taxes are needed to fund the thriving and growing animal populace
This is literally the political program of extinguish the human race in favor of other species.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 11:18:18 2019 No.11868110 >bumholes, noses, ears, eyelids, nails, cartilage, veins, and bone Nutritious as fuck >brown bits of fruit Past its prime, possible decay. Avoidance is normal

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 11:19:24 2019 No.11868118

>>11868056
Cattle do quite well when released into the wild. During the Civil War when most Tezans enlisted in the confederacy there was no one to care for the cattle and they became feral. When the men returned, broke and their farms and ranches devastated they started over by rounding up the wild cattle and driving them thousands of miles to cattle markets. They were ferocious, dangerous beasts quite different from domestic.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 11:22:04 2019 No.11868126

>>11868092
>>11868109
Imagine the vegans ending up having to take care and feed the animals at home they just liberated. Just imagine that malnourished anorexic vegan hippy getting outgrown by animals, like those hoarders and crazy cat ladies on tv.

Just eat the fucking things, holy shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 11:24:11 2019 No.11868129 >>11868118 the cattle raised during the days of the civil war were much closer to feral cattle than today's breeds.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 11:27:29 2019 No.11868141 >>11865267 If this board had unique IDs per poster, you would see 1 vegan samefagging the whole thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 11:35:51 2019 No.11868163 Nuggets are retard food mostly americans like and only manchildren won't eat a banana because it's bruised. That being said vegans are faggots.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 11:58:09 2019 No.11868224
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>>11867579
Fuck being couscous about the environbent, what has it ever done for me? I'm just gonna consume and waste as much as I can to offset you enviromentalst soyfaggots.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 12:09:01 2019 No.11868257 >>11867438 Brats.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 12:28:08 2019 No.11868327
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All vegans ITT and worldwide are leading the way to artificially catalyzed speciation of the human race. Humans already existed on the precipice of speciation in that humanity itself was a complete ecosystem, with the multitudes of weak making way for the fewer, stronger, and better. There was already a working class and a bourgeoisie, but the next step is more extreme. Soon there will be an Apartheid divide between those who exist solely to work, who are distracted with sensationalism and bred into a subservient force; and those who exist to enjoy and invent, those who are strong and capable and who cannot be contained.

From the better half will be borne a new race.
Let the vegans consume their "medicine" so that I may use their crumpled, malnourished forms as stepping stones on my path to greatness.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 12:46:31 2019 No.11868393

>>11868327
>made up Lenin quote
>gastronomic Marxism
You are something special. Back in the communist era we ate much more meat (the insides too) than post-regime change and starvation.
https://foreignpolicyblogs.com/2009/11/03/better-red-than-unfed-a-survey-of-post-communism/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_cuisine

>state-oriented diets
What on earth are you talking about? The totally unscientific food pyramid was pushed by the economic lobbies. Get a basic idea before you address topics you have no clue about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Whccunka4

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 12:50:43 2019 No.11868407 File: 311 KB, 981x1355, you look like shit baldy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865936 K

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 12:52:03 2019 No.11868414 File: 459 KB, 1023x1043, newest picture of me.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11867548 I'm buff btw pic related is me me i eat meat

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 12:57:51 2019 No.11868422

>>11868393
To further your point, Poland under the communists required that sausages and cured meats be made using only the methods and ingredients used in traditional artisan production. It was after liberation that the corporations began using short cuts with additives and chemical injections with a concomittant drastic decline in the quality of the sausages and meats.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 12:57:59 2019 No.11868425 File: 152 KB, 1280x720, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11868414 hurr

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:00:23 2019 No.11868436 >>11867438 Brauts. When thick they go german, when skinny they call them hot dogs or nathans (which nathans sucks).

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:07:34 2019 No.11868461
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>>11868422
Same experience from Hungary. Pic related: a typical soviet butchershop (different meats, pickles). Since we moved onto capitalism these classic butcheries are disappearing everywhere, because the fucking corporate shits like TESCO & LIDL took everything over, with their low quality and artificially enhanced meat that oozes out shit chemicals and drops dramatically in size when you cook with them.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:08:47 2019 No.11868468 File: 256 KB, 1600x1040, 9267284e7733f4bec00d2e114d3f3ba1_XL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11868461 One more pic of a typical socialist butchery.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:10:56 2019 No.11868478
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>>11868461
>>11868468
Now, with capitalism, we have pic related. This thing proudly advertises itself as having lowered fat content. It literally stinks when you cook with it.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:12:15 2019 No.11868483

>>11868425
Low Blood Glucose

Carbohydrates in your diet supply your blood glucose. Blood glucose is a necessary part of normal human physiology, because it is the means by which your cells gain energy to function, develop and grow. It is the fuel for your gas tank. With an inadequate amount of carbohydrates your cells are left hungry.
Hypoglycemia

A condition known as hypoglycemia can occur if you don't have enough blood glucose. This is characterized by a glucose less than 70 mg/dL, but you wouldn't be able to tell your blood glucose unless you tested it. Otherwise you can look for the symptoms of hypoglycemia. These symptoms include confusion and weird behavior, double vision, blurry vision, heart arrhythmias, nervousness, sweating, hunger and tremors.
Ketoacidosis

Prolonged carbohydrate deficiency can result in a condition known as ketoacidosis. This happens when your body turns to fat stores for energy. Fat, though, takes energy to break down and liberate from its stores. In addition, only some cells can run on the energy produced by fat; certain organs, like your brain, need to have glucose. Your body produces ketones to run your vital processes and reserves the glucose it has for your brain and other cells that only use glucose. Ketones are produced as the energy from fat, but they can raise your blood pH. Ketoacidosis is the condition in which your blood is becoming too acidic, which can be very dangerous, even resulting in death. Symptoms of ketoacidosis include fatigue, dry skin, flushed skin, stomach pain, vommiting, nausea, shortness of breath, fruity-smelling breath, confusion, anxiety and passing out.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:15:10 2019 No.11868498 File: 140 KB, 360x360, 1545956432801.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11868483 >lack of diabetes is bad

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:15:39 2019 No.11868499

>>11868461
You seem to be mad at the companies. Stop that. It's misdirected.

Instead, you should be mad at your fellow countrymen. Those are the people who voted with their money and decided that they'd rather have cheap meat than quality meat.

>>11868478
we have that crap in the US too. though, thanks to capitalism, we don't have ONLY that. We have a huge variety of products to choose from. I don't bitch about the cheap meat. I just don't buy it, and I get good meat instead.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:16:32 2019 No.11868504 File: 13 KB, 300x300, Obese-Unaware-of-Link-Between-Overweight-and-Cancer-2.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11868498 >eating meat

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:23:34 2019 No.11868555

>>11868504
>spreading pseudo-science FOR FREE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rz-8H_i1wA

>>11868499
No, I'm mad at capitalism. I don't want 500 poisonous shit to chose from, to develop avoidance strategies, meanwhile pretending that "I'm a conscious and intelligent consumer as opposed to the plebs" (read: poor people) or the same shit packaged 20 different ways. I want 100 things that are the highest quality. I don't want to have crappy shit AT ALL in ANY store, and accessible not just for me but for my society as a whole, like it was before the fucking Soros-sponsored regime change to capitalism. (Fun fact Orbán studied at a Soros fund.)

>you should be mad at your fellow countrymen
My fellow countrymen are split into to two groups just like all capitalist societies: owners and those who they own. I hate the former and sympathize with the latter group.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:32:23 2019 No.11868614 File: 261 KB, 1366x768, 1.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11868555 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rz-8H_i1wA This is the absolute STATE of "vegan science".

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:33:01 2019 No.11868618

>>11868555
>I want 100 things that are the highest quality.

And who or what decides what is the "highest quality"? The only person who can decide that for you is you yourself. Hence why you need a variety to choose from. The "best" tomato for you is not the best tomato for me.

>>My fellow countrymen are split into to two groups just like all societies
I fixed that for you. There are elites in every society no matter what the legal structure. You think that rich privileged people didn't/don't exist in Cuba, Soviet Russia, North Korea, etc? Pull your head out of the sand.

>>I don't want to have crappy shit AT ALL in ANY store,
Really? so you want to go grocery shopping and have the only options being $500/lb Wagyu beef or $1000/lb bluefin tuna? You go to buy clothes and your only option are hand-fitted dresses or bespoke suits? What if you just need some napkins to clean up a mess and they tell you: sorry sir, we don't have any cheap ones, but we do have these nice silk ones, only the best, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:38:19 2019 No.11868644 >>11868393 >>11868422 >>11868461 >being distracted by the least important and most sarcastic parts of an otherwise good post Stay pleb, plebs

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:43:40 2019 No.11868676

>>11868461
Good fucking luck getting the kind of meat you want regularly in the soviet union. Unless you knew the right people of course. At least nowadays you have the choice to go to a quality butcher, but you don't seem to realize that. Don't make assumptions about living is communist countries when you have no clue, retard.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:44:16 2019 No.11868679

>>11868618
You are moving the goalpost without realizing. Who 'decides' today what we eat? Company owners, motivated to garner more and more profits. The reason for the existence of the whole 'vegan movement' is the enormous amounts of lobby money these companies (Monstanto, Nestle, etc.) spend on them to further their profits. Real science is discredited and replaced by company funded "science" -- science became a business like everything else under capitalism. If you don't realize that I'm not talking about different types of tomatoes but literal poison in our food (which you portray as some form of "consumer freedom"), the unhealthiest shit being pushed on us, you don't get my point.

>>split into to two groups just like all societies
This is simply historical ignorance. Ask any credible anthropologist, historian, or archeologist and they will tell you that homo sapiens has spent 95% of its existence in classless societies. The evidence for this is enormous.

>There are elites in every society no matter what the legal structure.
There's a difference between elite and owner. An elite might be political, chosen, representative. An owner of the means of production (factories, land, etc.) are a different breed altogether: their power comes from exploiting the rest of us.

>You think that rich privileged people didn't/don't exist in Cuba, Soviet Russia, North Korea, etc?
First of all, I live in an ex-socialist country. I speak from personal experience, unlike you, gobbling up and regurgitating cold war anti-communist propaganda. Second, yes, there was an elite. Yes, there was wealth difference, but to a much lesser degree: the highest earner received 6 times more than the lowest earner. That number today from, say, the CEO of Amazon to its lowest paid cleaning lady is 1:1000000000000(...) - there's absolutely no limitation under capitalism.
[cont.]

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:50:01 2019 No.11868705

>>11868618
[cont]
>you want to go grocery shopping and have the only options being $500/lb Wagyu beef or $1000/lb bluefin tuna
I'm not Japanese, nor does my country have sea access. I want grass fed, free-roaming locally and traditionally cultivated mangalica pigs and hungarian grey cattle to be available to everyone. Our own good quality river carps and catfish instead of that shitty imported African fish imported from god knows where like we used to have for centuries before.

>You go to buy clothes and your only option are hand-fitted dresses or bespoke suits?
Under communism ALL of our clothing was locally produced. Now, thanks to the miracles of capitalism we either buy chinese shit, unaffordable American shit, or literally buy used clothes from England. Let that sink in, nigger. Capitalism turned this country from a self-sustaining and healthy place to a nation of beggars who has to buy used clothes of the Westerners.

>not understanding how prices works in a planned economy
Read a fucking book, mate. http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/new_socialism.pdf

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:52:51 2019 No.11868714

>>11868676
>people starve and receive much lower quality food, but hey, at least the top 5% of the population can buy expensive and healthy foods, while the poor keep drooling over the exuberant array of products they can't actually buy
Go colonize someone else, anglo.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:58:29 2019 No.11868732
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>>11868468
One more. Notice the top shelf: canned, high quality foie gras, that was accessible to the average Joe. Today we can't afford to buy this shit because it is much more profitable to sell it to rich westerners. We make it, but can't afford to consume it. The wonders of capitalism.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:59:34 2019 No.11868736 ^^ This is why I'm a third option /pol/tard the left invites invasion, taxes to reduce everyone to peasantry for the elite, and degeneracy the right supports crony capitalism to the point of poisoning people to fatten their bottom line t. american

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 13:59:53 2019 No.11868737

>>11868679
>Who 'decides' today what we eat?
I do. I don't let company owners decide what I eat. I buy what I feel like eating, from whomever I choose to buy it from. Worried about "literal poison" in cheap industrial food? I am too. I don't buy it. I buy from local farmers I know instead. This year I started a garden.

>>the unhealthiest shit being pushed on us
sure, it's being pushed on us. But we don't have to listen.

>>their power comes from exploiting the rest of us.
Only if you let them.

>> I speak from personal experience, unlike you
Lol. I was born in Denmark, I have since moved to the US. I know socialism well, friend.

>>Second, yes, there was an elite. Yes, there was wealth difference,
I'm glad we agree.

>> but to a much lesser degree
Lolno. You talk about money in this paragraph but earlier you talked about power. and rightfully so. The powerful people calling the shots in communist and socialist countries worldwide have far more "power" than a hollywood movie star or a bigshot business owner. If a big evil company makes a product you don't like you don't have to buy it. When the guy in charge of a government policy makes a change you don't like you're just plain fucked.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 14:04:44 2019 No.11868749

>>11868705
>I'm not Japanese, nor does my country have sea access
so what? you said you wanted the best, and no cheap shit for you.

>> I want grass fed, free-roaming locally and traditionally cultivated mangalica pigs and hungarian grey cattle to be available to everyone. Our own good quality river carps and catfish instead of that shitty imported African fish imported from god knows where like we used to have for centuries before.
don't you still have those things now? I know that here in America I can easily buy mangalistsa pork products. I can, and do. they actually cost less than the big-name brands in the deli supermarket case, though I have to admit it does take more work to find them to buy.

>>Capitalism turned this country from a self-sustaining and healthy place to a nation of beggars who has to buy used clothes of the Westerners.
no. your own countrymen's values are different than yours. You care about keeping local people making clothes (why?), they care about cheap clothes.

>>thinking a planned economy solves more problems than it creates
I'd tell you to read a book yourself. Start with the Austrians. they seem to be among the few economists who weren't privileged rich kids

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 14:07:13 2019 No.11868757

everyone knows the meat industry is a shit show. however, I like meat, it's natural and expected for humans to eat meat, and I will continue to eat meat.

if I could raise my own livestock I would, but it's 2019 and they don't have affordable pastures in metro Atlanta.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 14:07:50 2019 No.11868760 What kind of non-nigger adult eats nuggets?

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 14:08:58 2019 No.11868765
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>>11868736
You literally don't understand what the left is. What you call "left" is actually liberalism: a right wing ideology.

>>11868737
>The massive domination and dehumanization that goes on systematically is okay if I'm rich enough not to be affected by something that affects 90% of my society.
Sociopath.

>Denmark is socialism
>capitalism with a welfare state is socialism
The utter ignorance.

>>11868749
>complete lack of understanding on how different economic and political systems work
>everything is about "values" and nothing is about power, economic exploitation, wars, colonization.
Yeah, I guess I should tell my fellow countrymen to start listening to bible-fucking preachers -- that will surely solve the poverty! How didn't I think about this before?! Thanks, anon. Gonna change my "values" now.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 14:12:56 2019 No.11868779

>>11868765
>You literally don't understand what the left is. What you call "left" is actually liberalism: a right wing ideology.
semantics
blue = left and red = right here. nobody needs the stupid alignment shit. Stop trying to argue over a fucking word.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 14:15:14 2019 No.11868784 >>11868779 >willful ignorance >differences in political programs are 'semantics' Enjoy your conspiracy theories.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 14:16:38 2019 No.11868788 >>11868784 >this concerned about the perception of a word sad

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 14:19:51 2019 No.11868795 >>11868788 >words, ideologies, meaning itself doesn't matter, dude Postmodern weed-smoking hippy-tier.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 14:39:21 2019 No.11868861
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>>11868765
>>The massive domination and dehumanization that goes on systematically is okay if I'm rich enough not to be affected by something that affects 90% of my society.
Lolwhut? That's not even close to what I wrote, and that doesn't even make sense on any level. You don't a have to be rich to avoid buying shitty products. Far from it, in fact. This is what real food looks like. It's by far the cheapest way to eat. And there's no brand name or logo anywhere. Buying ripoff products from evil corporations is not a poor persons's problem, it's a rich person's one. A poor person can't afford to buy overpriced corporate garbage.

>>Yeah, I guess I should tell my fellow countrymen to start listening to bible-fucking preachers
Who said anything about that? Also, you didn't answer any of my questions. Please do. they were not rhetorical.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 14:44:26 2019 No.11868878 >>11865421 I wonder what your stance is on all those wonderful medicinal products and vaccines used to keep arrogant judgemental shitheads like yourself alive (or those dear to you) created using animal models and experiments?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 14:46:13 2019 No.11868884 >>11865267 Because I am not gay

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 15:42:09 2019 No.11869091

>>11868039
>Which means that dairy cows will be killed on mass
They're already being killed en masse. Cows naturally live til 20, but their milk production starts waning after four years of constant pregnation, so they're killed when they're around 5 years old. Also, male calves are killed almost immediately after birth.
>>11868044
>PETA kills animals
It's a free humane euthanization service for people who can't afford it.
>>11868126
Activists like peta actually campaign for spaying and neutering, because they recognize that uncontrolled breeding is unsustainable. And yes, many people already take in animals from shelters to take care of them.
>>11868109
Weird fear-mongering. You realize once humans are no longer dependent on farm animals for food, there will be drastically fewer farm animals? Also, animals in preserves and zoos are already a thing, and their population is controlled, because people aren't morons.
>taxes
Let me guess how often you complain about government subsidies for the meat industry.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 16:35:56 2019 No.11869234 >>11868425 That's almost two years. In that time you can make a much larger impact on your frame than following a shitty fad diet and trying to get yourself sick to lose weight will do.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 16:38:17 2019 No.11869242 >>11865285 this, it's really just about the texture, I actually wait for them to get all brown and mushy when I make my smoothies, it's just something about that texture that makes me kinda gag when I eat it by itself.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 19:41:50 2019 No.11869973 >>11868425 i like her better chubby tnhfam

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 19:44:23 2019 No.11869990 >>11865267 Because humans are evolved to be omnivores

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 19:44:34 2019 No.11869993 >>11869973 it's the light. notice the color difference of the walls. She did good, taking charge of her own obesity.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 19:47:53 2019 No.11870014 >tfw eat veggies, fruit, AND MEAT why stick with 1 when you can have them all ;>)

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 20:24:30 2019 No.11870192 >>11868436 >nathans sucks Imagine being this wrong

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 20:49:30 2019 No.11870292 >>11865267 How's killing the rabbits and other animals that rely off of the sole food you're eating? You dumb fat hippie.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:01:56 2019 No.11870637 >>11870014 Why not eat anything you want while you're alive and then die and be forgotten like everything else?

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:03:12 2019 No.11870641

>>11870630
I saw that movie at a film festival last year. In the end he tries to cut his penis off with scissors and one of (maybe the last?) scene is him in the hospital. Also the film was controversial because they show his pee pee and he was under 18 (actor was a cis male, not an actual trans girl).

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:04:45 2019 No.11870646 >>11870641 18 isn't the law in bongland.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:20:13 2019 No.11870716 >>11865865 >They literally have zero sentience or ability to experience reality. patently false. learn some undergraduate biology.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:24:51 2019 No.11870734 >>11870630 I, too, can manipulate web pages. Is this supposed to be an argument for being a fat meatcuck or something?

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:25:01 2019 No.11870736

>>11865842
>And this is based on what? What is the trait that necessitates animal slaughter for your fat gullet?

You're not providing any reason as to why killing them is immoral. If they are inferior then there is no moral stipulation, based on the fact that they lack sentience like humans. I require the killing of animals to in order to have sufficient nutrients. As someone who works out and does manual labour I actually require strength to maintain muscle mass. I can't spend 10 years trying to get basic gains.

>So you just act out on every urge you have like a mentally unstable lunatic?
It's hilarious that you accuse me of grade school arguments when you throw out an idiotic straw man like this. I have to eat, just like you do. Do you seriously not eat when you are hungry? I have an urge to eat because it is necessary, just like using the bathroom or breathing. I guess succumbing to basic biological needs makes me a lunatic

>Why is “they do it too!!!” an excuse? You’re literally equivocating yourself with animals then saying they’re not equal. Do you condone rape on the grounds of “other people do it too!!” or are you someone that isn’t a fucking two year old, mentally?

You're the one (or whoever I was original responding too) who claimed that animals are not equals. Human beings are fundamentally animals, just superior sentient ones. Everyone MUST consume other organisms to survive. You're so retarded that you're drawing an equivalence between something that all things must do to a crime that only a minority of people and species do. And this entire argument is a retarded strawman.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:26:05 2019 No.11870741 File: 66 KB, 614x579, 1549433040138.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11870734 >manipulate web pages ??? I'm just showing that google thinks you're a chick.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:27:19 2019 No.11870749 >>11865436 Based veGOD

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:29:04 2019 No.11870754 >>11870741 Press F6 and type "vegans higher testosterone" and get back to me

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:31:13 2019 No.11870762 >>11870754 Doesn't matter what it would say. Reverse Google image search still finds the person in your pic to be a woman.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:31:35 2019 No.11870764 >>11865421 Vegans dont stop to think about all the animals that were killed or displaced to make room for their lettuce fields though do they? Fucking fags. And bruised bananas are fucking mushy thats why I dont eat them. Feels like Im eating slime

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:34:50 2019 No.11870779

>>11865842
>Plants are not sentient, they have zero nociceptors to feel pain or any ability to experience reality. If you want to go down this retarded path you literally point towards veganism considering youre killing less plants by only eating plants rather than eating an animal that eats plants

This is an arbitrary distinction. What was said initially is that it's wrong to consume other beings. Now the goalpost has move to sentient beings. Because they suffer and feel pain? If so then if they are treated humanely and do not suffer then what is the problem. You're not explaining why it's immoral beyond your own arbitrary feelings.

>You can survive without animals, you’re just a fucking idiot with grade school level arguments against veganism. Thank you, next!

You're literally making stupid non arguments and flinging insults, while calling other grade-schoolers.

And if I did not have access to supplements or high fat non animal based foods like nuts or avocado then no, I would not be able to survive without meat. You're only able to survive without it because we have the technology to supplement some of the nutrients that you would otherwise get from meat.

>>11865855
>You have no point. You’re desperately trying to trap me in a contradiction by strawmanning a point I didn’t make. You’re literally equivocating yourself to a lion then complaining about not killing animals for food because they're not equal

The contradiction lies at the heart of veganism. You're unable to reconcile this contradiction so you try and turn it on me but I'm not arguing against it. I don't have a contradiction, weather or not I am superior to a lion and should or should not be held to it's standards means is irrelevant to me.

You try and wave away the contradiction by saying that they are inferior thus we don't hold ourselves to their standards (killing other animal) but they shouldn't be killed regardless of their inferiority. You have yet to provide a reason why.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:46:39 2019 No.11870831 >>11865267 I eat bananas like that

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:50:43 2019 No.11870856

>>11865855
>That doesn’t mean you have to slaughter them. You realize you can not slaughter an animal and also not give them voting rights, right? Of course you don’t you stupid dipshit

It's not about weather or not I have to (I do, veganism is demonstrated to be unhealthy for you long term and lead to various mental problems and nutritional deficiencies), but it's that if they are inferior there isn't a reason to not kill them.
>That doesn't mean you have to slaughter them
I have no reason not to

>Wow great fucking argument, retard. You said so, so it must be true! Are you a lion or not?
You really just took a line out of context and didn't address the actual point it's attached too. I explained why it isn't valid, but you can conveniently ignore that bit because you don't have a retort.

>You’re flip flopping from “lion eat meat!!!” to “we”re not equal!! kill them all!”
The entire point is that I don't give a shit, that contradiction is a question for vegans to answer because they have to reconcile it with their ideology. I'll eat meat because I need too, I'll do it because I want too. It's not flipping-flopping, it's not my position. It's pointing out two opposing viewpoints. You can't hold both viewpoints.

You keep throwing out useless ad hominem about how supposedly stupid and juvenile I am while not being able to actually address that or even understand what I'm saying.Not to be condescending, but you sound like a frustrated teenager hurling insults at someone making barely coherent points.

Veganism doesn't have a moral ground to stand on, and you're the one acting like a petulant child.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:55:49 2019 No.11870883

>>11865865
>>11865865
>The only thing you can’t find in sufficient amounts in plants is B12. So you supplement it. What exactly is the issue? B12 is a bacteria, it is not made by animal tissue

B12 is only reliable found in animal products. Other sources do not yield sufficient amounts of it, and fortified foods that so many vegans eat not only lack in sufficient amounts of B12 but are also not vegan (fortified cereal). I know from experience, my grandfather who is a doctor and did as much as he could to get Supplements for his vegan lifestyle still had serious B12 deficiency. B12 is also not the only vitamin D3 and creatine are two other essential animal vitamins that you cannot get from plants.

>>plants are people too!!!
Nice strawman, never claimed that
>God you’re such a fucking moron. They literally have zero sentience or ability to experience reality.

Nice arbitrary standards. Calling me a moron for a point I did not make. Who'd supposed to be the grade-schooler here? A plant is alive, why is it okay to kill it?

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 22:55:58 2019 No.11870885

Eating organic meat from happy animals is morally superior to being vegan. We give animals a good live and then take it away from them to feed us. Vegans deny these animals the good life they could have had because they can't deal with the fact that something bad like death is involved in something that's supposedly good. Everything has to be good in their world or else their little snowflake minds can't handle it. They really only care about themself, not about the animals.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 6 23:11:33 2019 No.11870954 >>11865267 >bumholes, noses, ears But chickens don't have those things.

Anonymous Wed Feb 6 23:26:16 2019 No.11871006

>>11870883
>muh grandpa!
stfu with your anecdotal bullshit

>A plant is alive, why is it okay to kill it?
a plant does not feel pain, a plant does not suffer. Do you know how dumb you make yourself out to be when you make this ridiculous argument? Do you even know what sentience is? Fuck you and your grandpa

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 00:33:32 2019 No.11871260

>>11871006
>stfu with your anecdotal bullshit
>bullshit
One example of many vegans who suffer from vitamin B12 deficiency, which is well documented.

And reducing a statement to
">MUH "X""
and passing it off as some sort of retort is the pinnacle of poor argumentation.

>a plant does not feel pain, a plant does not suffer. Do you know how dumb you make yourself out to be when you make this ridiculous argument? Do you even know what sentience is? Fuck you and your grandpa

So as long as an animal is not suffering or feeling any pain then it's okay to kill it. But again, your standard is arbitrary. You made it up that a plant's life has no value because it's not sentient deliberately to exclude them so you can still feel moral about killing things. You draw the line at sentient beings because it's convenient.

Why not draw the line at Sapience and self awareness. Most animals are not aware of themselves, nor are the even aware of their mortality. Who care's if a non self aware being dies? Of course your standard is just as arbitrary as that.

Of course I don't have any problems with killing plants, nor do I have a problem killing animals. You can draw the line wherever you want to justify yourself if it makes you feel better. You have yet to provide a reason as to why value should be placed on sentience beyond the ability to feel stress or pain. Remove causing stress or pain to the animal and the morality of your reasoning goes away.

You also keep stupidly assert these things as my positions. They aren't my positions, the point is to point out how absurd the position is in the first place by using your own logic.

You just keep getting more aggressive and incoherent as the argument drags on and you can't keep any consistency in your inherently retarded and contradictory ideology. You are petty, arrogant and childish, like most vegans. Your ideology makes no sense, and is logically inconsistent.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 00:36:37 2019 No.11871266 >>11865267 Because there is two reason that leads to veganism and both are retarded. It's either because you antropomorphize animals or because you wrongfully thinks that it is more eco friendly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 02:07:49 2019 No.11871547 >>11871006 most Invertebrates don't feel pain

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 03:45:34 2019 No.11871738 >>11871266 It's greener bro. There's two types of people : Vegans And antienvironmentalist cucks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 04:02:54 2019 No.11871777 >>11865267 I want to digest the food I eat

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 04:30:32 2019 No.11871836 File: 29 KB, 657x527, 48451568974.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >another vegan thread

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 05:01:30 2019 No.11871898
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>>11867561
it's wrong when we don't need to and it's not necessary for our survival anymore, also pretty horrifying what's standard farming practice and the multiple ways it's destroying our health and the planet

>>11870764
It requires far more land + water to feed and farm animals than it does to produce plant products, it's half the reason why people go vegan to begin with

>>11865480
People push the all or nothing argument since veganism is at it's foremost an animal rights issue, people want to stop others from funding an industry that causes innocent animals immense suffering when it's completely unnecessary.

>>11865546
>we are animals and that's the way nature evolved
so because animals do it, it makes it morally okay? It might be how nature evolved but seeing as how leading cause of death is heart disease which is caused by cholesterol in the arteries (animal products are the only source of cholesterol) do you think humans should just eat themselves into an early grave when it's unnecessary?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 05:05:20 2019 No.11871909 every vegan looks diseased I don't want to catch what they got. I enjoy my healthy bones, teeth, mind, skin, organs, and muscles.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 05:15:26 2019 No.11871935 >>11871898 what a fucking cuckold. >must conserve resources while worlds elite pressures me to! are you some kind of bug person? wow youre such a good person! So stunning and brave!

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 05:26:20 2019 No.11871953

>>11871935
I don't think wiping out animal species and destroying more rainforests are a good thing, that's not being a cuckold that's just practicing my morals.

The world's elite don't need to tell me to do anything, unless they're an elite scientist? Perhaps some kind of expert on the climate? Perhaps a large group of them?
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impact-on-earth
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/europe-meat-dairy-production-vegan-2050-climate-change-a8539176.html
https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2018-06-01/would-you-go-vegan-to-save-the-planet-study-says-its-best-option/9816168
https://www.ecowatch.com/vegan-climate-change-2558286917.html

>are you a bug person?
What kind of question even is this?

I'm sorry you're offended by notion we should protect the environment through a somewhat simple diet change that also prevents the leading cause of death.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 05:32:00 2019 No.11871964 >>11869242 I don't like bananas that aren't a little green so if my bananas start going brown I let them brown to the point where I can use them in banana bread. Smoothie might be a healthier option though

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 05:56:32 2019 No.11872001

>>11871898
>requires far more land + water to feed and farm animals than it does to produce plant products, it's half the reason why people go vegan to begin with
And? It doesnt mean your hands arent stained with blood too buddy. You drive? You use makeup? Every fucking thing is made with animals you dumb vegan faggots need to realize this

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 08:04:25 2019 No.11872306

>>11871953
I don't care if you starve yourself to death. Please do. I don't care if you send all your money to Al Gore so he can buy another private jet. Libtards do crazy stupid things I understand that.

But please stop telling people you care about animals or the environment, when that is 100% a lie.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/25/veganism-intensively-farmed-meat-dairy-soya-maize

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 08:05:47 2019 No.11872309 File: 60 KB, 976x561, 1548619655867.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11871909 CARNIST!!! HOW DARE YOU WANT TO BE HEALTHY!! REEEEEEEE

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 08:12:01 2019 No.11872322
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>>11872001
It's not just driving and makeup. Every step of vegetables cultivation literally gasses and dismembers millions of small mammals and rodents (pesticides use on an industrial scale, for example) and vegans don't give a single fuck about the animals they slaughter.

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 08:29:20 2019 No.11872375

>>11871953
>climate change

OMEGA
Yeah no, even if we ALL went vegan and green, this Rock we call Earth is going to continue getting hot and then go back to it's ice age, then hot again, etc.

Fuck outta here with that. Even with saving acres of land, eventually due to population trends, that land will be compromised, so again I don't see the point in trying to potentially halt the inevitable.

Anything about health I wont argue on, I'm not fully researched in that. Aside from the fact that a Pescatarian Plant Mix diet is the healthiest

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:05:30 2019 No.11872848 >>11872375 Are you denying global warming? Please confirm it. Think before you respond.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:39:58 2019 No.11873030 >>11865429 >>11865436 >>11870749 all of you are veGAY

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:44:07 2019 No.11873044 File: 266 KB, 1386x1230, 1549003948900.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11872848 >Do you believe Al Gore climate hoax hustler needs more private jets? Think carefully before answered??

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:45:47 2019 No.11873050 >>11873044 I guess the Koch Brothers need more private jets

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:47:02 2019 No.11873051 >>11873044 that baby looks adopted. It doesn't look half white.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:47:19 2019 No.11873055 >>11865267 because I don't want to eat a bruised banana but I do wanna eat a sausage.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:48:08 2019 No.11873057 File: 61 KB, 800x475, tumblr_inline_o4gjzhHBl01swnj4v_1280.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11872309 >full time retard Hey its fatty. I miss you when you aren't spreading lies and only using logical fallacies as arguments!

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:48:45 2019 No.11873060 File: 25 KB, 406x362, meatcucks owned.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865287 now this is trolling EPIC style! meattards btfo!

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:49:25 2019 No.11873065 >>11873030 nonveGOD

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:49:48 2019 No.11873067
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>>11873050
>Cock brothers are different from Al Gore and Soros??

If the Cock brothers support climate change hoaxery, it just proves all libtards are together on this (on al Gores private jet with DiCaprio)

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:49:52 2019 No.11873068

>>11870883
>and fortified foods that so many vegans eat not only lack in sufficient amounts of B12 but are also not vegan (fortified cereal).
What makes fortified cereals not vegan? Where do you think vegan B12 comes from?

>Vitamin D3
From the sunlight, but as usual, the incels dont leave their mothers basements

>creatine
Not a nutrient of concern, dummy

>nice strawman
It’s exactly what you implied.

>why is it okay to kill it
Fat retarded carnists are fuming so hard they can’t even read the sentence they just quoted

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:50:26 2019 No.11873071 I'm 100% vegan. I just use meat as a vegetable protein delivery system.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:51:30 2019 No.11873075
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>>11873044
Do you actually disagree with every single scientist and all of what we understand about global warming because you associate it with someone that one disagreed with your political view?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:52:07 2019 No.11873077 >>11873067 So instead of having any original thought of your own, you enslave your peanut brain “dae libs xDDDDD” Enjoy dying in Venezuela, fellow MAGApede

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:54:26 2019 No.11873090 >>11873077 >Enjoy dying in Venezuela, fellow MAGApede next level huu durr libdummy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:55:17 2019 No.11873092 File: 54 KB, 452x440, 1536474825735.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873090

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:55:33 2019 No.11873093 >>11873090 Huh?

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Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:57:21 2019 No.11873104
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>>11873075
>(((We)))

I repudiated you liar. Why do you use the word "we" I am not of your (((species))) and any scientist who tells the truth, (((you))) just unperson him and memory hole him like Watson.

Literally everything (((your side))) tells us is lies, how can I respond but by laughing at you?? Why you worried about me anyway?? Go fill up your private jet and do whatever you do lol.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:58:32 2019 No.11873108 Carneyfag going for a two month nonstop record

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 11:59:35 2019 No.11873112 >>11873104 unironically baste and unironically redpilled.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:00:01 2019 No.11873115 >>11873057 >le buttblasted vegan. Just concentrate on your own teeth don't worry about me. Why are your teeth falling out by the way Mr or Mz. Vegan?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:01:19 2019 No.11873120

>>11873104
>I repudiated you liar.
What?
>Why do you use the word "we" I am not of your (((species))) and any scientist who tells the truth, (((you))) just unperson him and memory hole him like Watson.
I didn't use the word "We". Can you not read?
>Literally everything (((your side))) tells us is lies, how can I respond but by laughing at you?? Why you worried about me anyway?? Go fill up your private jet and do whatever you do lol.
You didn't answer any of the questions. Are you not actually a person or do you not understand basic English?
Are you actually retarded?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:02:22 2019 No.11873125 >>11873120 Carneyfag literally admitted to being institutionalized at one point. He’s not well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:02:41 2019 No.11873127 File: 131 KB, 548x634, 1548586050685.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873115 >dedicating an entire 13 minute video to saying your front teeth falling has nothing to do with your vegan diet the ultimate cope.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:03:14 2019 No.11873131 >>11873115 Got any evidence about that claim or are you using logical fallacies? Type "proof by example" into your favorite search engine and enjoy the self-inspired cringe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:04:37 2019 No.11873137 >>11873127 Lmao dude you're hilarious

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:05:34 2019 No.11873143 >>11873131 lmao seething vegandumdum.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:05:55 2019 No.11873147

>>11873108
I should get a record for vegan tears lol. But the veganbots think every anti-vegan comment is one person, when it's not (it's every fucking normal person here who doesn't want to be an emaciated skeletoid)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:08:45 2019 No.11873162 [DELETED]

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>>11865267
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-bes/
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as/
>http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/opinion/veggie.html
>https://thetab.com/uk/2017/02/16/vegetarians-unhealthy-mentally-disturbed-says-new-research-33067
>https://plagueofstrength.com/the-war-on-coffee-and-common-sense-or/

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:08:54 2019 No.11873165 >>11873147 I’m sorry. I should be more mindful of your other personalities, Carneyfag.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:10:35 2019 No.11873171 >>11873165 I accept your admission of defeat veganboi. :)

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:11:01 2019 No.11873174 [DELETED]

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>>11868504
>>11871898
>it's destroying our health
>https://plagueofstrength.com/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is/
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3529694/#!po=57.9365
>http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2016/10/latest-study-shows-that-33-gkg-high.html
>http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/42/1/127
>https://breakingmuscle.com/healthy-eating/why-all-humans-need-to-eat-meat-for-health

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:11:05 2019 No.11873175 >>11873171 Huh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:11:57 2019 No.11873180 >>11873143 Not an argument, not a single valid argument from you. You're literally retarded.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:12:06 2019 No.11873181
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>>11873120
>I didn't use the word "We". Can you not read?
>>>11873075
>with every single scientist and all of whatt """WE""" understand??

Like I said, (((you))) literally cannot make a single post without LYING. Then act surprised when nobody believes you lol.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:12:37 2019 No.11873185 [DELETED]

>>11871898
>and the planet
>http://www.beefmagazine.com/blog/4-facts-debunk-meat-horrible-article
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_impact_of_meat_production
>http://grist.org/sustainable-farming/farmer-responds-to-the-new-york-times-re-sustainable-meat/
>http://www.latimes.com/books/jacketcopy/la-ca-jc-nicolette-hahn-niman-20141123-story.html
>https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659
>>https://theconversation.com/yes-eating-meat-affects-the-environment-but-cows-are-not-killing-the-climate-94968
>https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/sep/06/meat-production-veganism-deforestation

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:13:19 2019 No.11873189 >>11873165 Not an argument, not a single valid argument from you. You're literally retarded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:14:23 2019 No.11873193 File: 37 KB, 468x303, article-2066616-0EF248CE00000578-241_468x303.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873174 >news, blogs, and an irrelevant study Your brain on carnism everyone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:15:59 2019 No.11873199 >>11873180 We're not arguing with you, just laughing at you toothless retard. >ReEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE my diet is healthy!! >Tooth flies out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6JBICT9OQ4

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:16:08 2019 No.11873200 >>11873193 I accept your admission of defeat veganboi. :)

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:16:10 2019 No.11873201 File: 273 KB, 812x566, F94DCCE5-0952-486A-96D0-53344FE2FA1A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] triggers the fat carnist incels

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:16:38 2019 No.11873202 File: 12 KB, 480x360, hqdefault(2).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873181 No race, gender, or group was involved. Jesus Christ /pol/ ruined your life. It's hilarious. You're a walking argument (((((for))))) veganism. Thank you.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:17:59 2019 No.11873214 File: 152 KB, 640x360, The-Needle-Drop.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873199 Bro, I have perfect teeth. I brush every day. You may have watched my videos of you're not a newfag.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:18:01 2019 No.11873213 File: 63 KB, 1324x696, 1548685832090.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873201 Horrifies would be more accurate

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>>11873174
>http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/meat-and-cancer/
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2011/12/devil-in-feeding-trough-pge-response-to.html?m=1
>https://chriskresser.com/red-meat-cancer-again-will-it-ever-stop/
>http://www.mensfitness.com/nutrition/what-to-eat/meat-cancer-bacon-who-report-mens-fitness-health
>https://rawfoodsos.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/minger_formal_response2.pdf
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/06/final-china-study-response-html/
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/08/03/the-china-study-a-formal-analysis-and-response/
>https://deniseminger.com/2010/07/07/the-china-study-fact-or-fallac/
>http://www.foodrenegade.com/the-china-study-discredited/
>https://deniseminger.com/the-china-study/
>https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/the-curious-case-of-campbells-rats-does-protein-deficiency-prevent-cancer/
>https://www.westonaprice.org/our-blogs/taking-a-trip-down-memory-lane-fishing-for-our-good-friend-glutathione-in-the-waters-of-the-memory-hole-how-t-colin-campbell-helped-prove-that-protein-protects-us
>http://www.saragottfriedmd.com/does-meat-cause-cancer-revisiting-the-meat-igf-1-and-cancer-connection/
>https://www.reddit.com/r/keto/comments/2qxnro/red_meat_triggers_toxic_immune_reaction_which/cnai2od/
>http://caloriesproper.com/red-meat-wont-kill-you-it-will-make-you-stronger/

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:18:56 2019 No.11873221 >>11873202 >f-fucking /pol/ reeee lmao seethe harder libdum.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:20:19 2019 No.11873228
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>>11873213
Does anyone have the post where he claimed to be genderfluid and have autism, and followed up talking about how he's going to imprison "toothlesa vegans" ?

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:20:51 2019 No.11873231 [DELETED]

>>11865865
>The only thing you can’t find in sufficient amounts in plants is B12
>https://authoritynutrition.com/7-nutrients-you-cant-get-from-plants/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/5-muscle-nutrients-in-animal-foods/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/5-brain-nutrients-in-meat-fish-eggs/
>https://dailyhealthpost.com/4-brain-nutrients-found-only-in-meat-fish-and-eggs-not-plants/
>Animals store vitamin B12 in liver and muscle and some pass the vitamin into their eggs and milk; meat, liver, eggs and milk are therefore sources of the vitamin for other animals, including people.[5][7][25] For humans, the bioavailability from eggs is less than 9%, compared to 40% to 60% from fish, fowl and meat.[26] Insects are a source of B12 for animals (including other insects and humans).[25][27]
>Animal sources with a significant content of vitamin B12 (range among top 20 sources of 50 to 99 µg per 100 grams)[28] include clams, organ meats (especially liver) from lamb, veal, beef, and turkey, fish eggs, mackerel, and crab meat.[4][5]
>There are no naturally occurring notable vegetable dietary sources of the vitamin
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_B12#Animal_sources

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:21:21 2019 No.11873234 File: 49 KB, 590x600, 08FD2C39-AF5D-4FF3-8578-A8530B30711D.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when your very existence triggers the full psychological breakdown of incels

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:22:09 2019 No.11873237 File: 58 KB, 750x733, 1549113567375.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873202 You're welcome. And RIP vegan activist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:22:12 2019 No.11873238 >>11873234 I know lad why do vegancels seethe so hard?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:22:43 2019 No.11873239 Why do you vegans have to be such complete fucking faggots? You'd have better luck "converting" people to your religion if you weren't.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:23:33 2019 No.11873241 File: 503 KB, 955x708, 6F129849-E989-454E-A4AC-B3D03E62ACDF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873239 Why are you so mad?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:24:27 2019 No.11873246 >>11873237 Vegans: -1 Carniwhores: -157 Vegans win again

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:25:01 2019 No.11873250

>>11865865
>zero sentience or ability to experience reality
i bet you love the smell of fresh cut grass too then you self righteous fucking hypocrite.

the smell of fresh cut grass by the way is literally how grass chemically signals to other grass that its being attacked

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:25:16 2019 No.11873251 >>11873241 Because this is the billionth thread time I've seen this thread, these "arguments" and these "I'm better than you because I pretend humans are ruminants" attitudes. Fuck you and have a burger. You'll feel better and less anemic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:25:25 2019 No.11873253 >>11873246 whoops I mean Vegcels: -157 Carnichads: 1 Carnifriends win again

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:25:33 2019 No.11873254 >>11873221 >promptly defends /pol/ Yep. Called it. You live a sad life.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:26:29 2019 No.11873263 >>11873254 >rees over pol Yep. Called it. You live a sad life.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:27:10 2019 No.11873265

>>11873214
Person in this image is too young to show the ravages of vegan deficiencies. It takes ten fifteen years of Veganism (in MOST cases) for teeth to start falling out etc, and most vegans quit when they start figuring this out. Even Vegan posterboy Jon Penus has had enough and is now humiliated to consider himself a 'vegan'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUivyTV_Z90
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6JBICT9OQ4

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:27:14 2019 No.11873266
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>>11873202
Carneyfag really is a blessing in the skies. He’s a diamond dozen. What better advocate for veganism than a schizo institutionalized carnist spending 20 hours a day ranting about how deranged veganism is?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:28:34 2019 No.11873270 File: 8 KB, 266x189, 87E9E340-3F5A-46A0-8840-2CD3E39A9E1C.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873251 Oh look, another fat incel with a guilty conscience complaining about the vegan boogeyman he never even ventures outside to encounter

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:28:49 2019 No.11873273 File: 587 KB, 487x815, 1549062666496.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873266 >vegabois coping THIS hard DESPERATE

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:29:05 2019 No.11873275
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>>11873234
>Vegans
>Cruelty free
>Dump tons of chemical pesticides on wild animals

Which is it vegan?
https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:29:47 2019 No.11873280 >>11873270 Nice try. Take your condescending attitude and your non-functional reproductive organs and get the fuck out of here. We discuss food and cooking here, not lawn mowing and soylent.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:30:12 2019 No.11873284 >>11873265 Are you serious?! You are post-2016. We have a newfag! You use YouTube videos as arguments and logical fallacies are your only weapon. You're between age 13 and 16 or you're actually retarded lmao. You're retarded. Retarded.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:30:56 2019 No.11873287 File: 175 KB, 1095x626, 8235D4A1-6BD2-4172-A9C3-6700B8235576.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873280 Seek sunlight, incel, you need your Vitamin D, I can’t keep just giving it to your mum

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:32:04 2019 No.11873291 >>11873287 I live in the wrong country for that. I do however have a balanced diet to make up for it. How's your sperm count, son?

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:33:41 2019 No.11873298

>>11873266
At one point I had tried to teach him a thing or two about arguing. You can tell he's just a kid. I feel bad for him. He knows only youtube and logical fallacies.
He doesn't change his patterns or understand. His sister's kind of hot though. I'm going to convert her.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:34:24 2019 No.11873300 File: 188 KB, 1125x623, 6FFC3666-86F3-4835-A5C4-0D0C4A62218B.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873291 Ask ye mum

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:34:28 2019 No.11873301 >>11873284 >Reducing veganbots to sputtering adhom. Even legit retards are less retarded than vegans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:35:40 2019 No.11873309 >>11873298 I have 8 sisters, but they don't date niggers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:35:43 2019 No.11873310 >>11873300 I'm sure my 71 year old mother deeply appreciates it. Seek help and get a balanced diet.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:37:11 2019 No.11873316 >>11873309 Then you haven't met your stalker yet. :)

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:37:27 2019 No.11873318 >>11873284 Huh?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:37:36 2019 No.11873320 File: 39 KB, 403x403, 27EEB9DC-EE22-4947-9AA3-A2629659E89E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873310 Was wondering why she smelled so funky. Thought that was just your room!

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:38:51 2019 No.11873325 File: 89 KB, 700x424, Heathly-Eating-Obesity-and-Food-Industry.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873301 >nonargument >bald-tube Every time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:39:13 2019 No.11873326 >>11873320 No I mean it, seek help. This is the weakest fucking shit I've seen in over a decade on 4chan.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:40:28 2019 No.11873332 >>11873325 >vegantard thinks posting a stock picture of a fat bitch eating a burger is an argument this is your brain on rabbit food.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:42:12 2019 No.11873341 >>11873238 Veganbots? They have an inner rage which is impossible for anyone or anything to understand. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6JBICT9OQ4

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:42:46 2019 No.11873343 >>11873326 I'm like 90% sure the vegan nut is the gay boomer from the netherlands or w/e that obsesses over flyovers. It would explain why he's always posting boomertier facebook pro-vegan memes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:44:28 2019 No.11873348 >>11873316 Oh well if some nigger babbies show up in 9 months I'll know.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:45:18 2019 No.11873353 >>11873341 >>11873325

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:45:57 2019 No.11873354 >>11873353 >>11873332

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:47:14 2019 No.11873360 File: 96 KB, 1024x615, article-2543486-1ADBB18E00000578-721_1024x615_large.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873354 >>11873120

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:49:51 2019 No.11873366 >>11873060 I know this is a joke, but Vegans don't use animal products. Thus, they'd be just as fucked by this logic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:50:17 2019 No.11873369 File: 65 KB, 1080x1080, 58881677-747B-4F44-A6D1-EB12793EBAE9.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873326 And yet you just can’t stop seething can you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:51:26 2019 No.11873374 File: 224 KB, 398x656, {Chicken nugger) tumblr_msvi1eCHVr1r5d9wso1_500.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865387 >chicken niggers >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PH4E2zx8gg

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 12:53:25 2019 No.11873382 >>11873366 >Vegans don't use animal products > perpetuating the delusion It's literally impossible to function in modern society without using any animal products. It's just another contrived virtue vegans proclaim they follow.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 13:00:06 2019 No.11873422

>Partially browned apple
Easy eat
>Partially browned banana
Yep
>Yogurt with mold starting to form
Scoop away a few cm of top layer, take as much as I can of the rest and throw it out afterwards
>Potatoes with spots
Cut away the spots, use potatoes
>Avocado with strings forming
Eat it out of the shell as much as possible without feeling a bad taste
>Eggs almost floating
Boil/fry and smell to decide if good enough
>1 week old milk
Smell, pour a little and taste a little if ok, if so then drink
>Fruit like oranges, peaches and pears going soft
Usually just eat it straight up anyway
>Some light butterfly infestation in grains
Make hot oatmeal out of it
>Ground meat smells a little funky
Fry a small piece and test eat it
>Ants in sugar
Use like normal, unless someone else is going to eat it as well
>Potato chips are a little stale
Out it fucking goes

How disgusting am I?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 13:01:30 2019 No.11873430 >>11873422 >>1 week old milk Clarification, 1-2 weeks after the expiration date.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 13:05:15 2019 No.11873444

>>11873382
Fallacy
>Habitats are disrupted by planting food, and animals are killed during harvest, so vegans kill animals too.

Crop fields do indeed disrupt the habitats of wild animals, and wild animals are also killed when harvesting plants. However, this point makes the case for a plant-based diet and not against it, since many more plants are required to produce a measure of animal flesh for food (often as high as 12:1) than are required to produce an equal measure of plants for food (which is obviously 1:1). Because of this, a plant-based diet causes less suffering and death than one that includes animals.
It is pertinent to note that the idea of perfect veganism is a non-vegan one. Such demands for perfection are imposed by critics of veganism, often as a precursor to lambasting vegans for not measuring up to an externally-imposed standard. That said, the actual and applied ethics of veganism are focused on causing the least possible harm to the fewest number of others. It is also noteworthy that the accidental deaths caused by growing and harvesting plants for food are ethically distinct from the intentional deaths caused by breeding and slaughtering animals for food. This is not to say that vegans are not responsible for the deaths they cause, but rather to point out that these deaths do not violate the vegan ethics stated above.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 13:12:13 2019 No.11873481

>>11873444
Calling a chemical weapons attack, "accidently or inadvertently" death is the hight of dishonesty. (Chemical pesticides)

Plus, cows eat grass which humans cannot and do not eat, so the defense of the animals you vegans kill is completely fraudulent.

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 13:19:13 2019 No.11873507 >>11865421 Vegetables can tell they're being eaten. You kill beings by cleaning your room and washing your hands. Millions of actually intelligent creatures with emotions and dreams (humans) die of hunger and live in poverty.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 13:20:10 2019 No.11873515 >>11865267 because i'm not an annoying and pretentious little cunt

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 13:28:46 2019 No.11873555

>>11873444
You are making two key mistakes:

1) Yes, it takes more than one pound of feed to get a pound of meat. But that feed is often plants which require no effort whatsoever to grow. Often times it is the leftovers from the crops grown for humans. You omit this for some reason.

2) a 1:1 comparison in terms of amount of food is misleading. It ought to be in terms of nutrition, not food. A pound of meat is a hell of a lot more nutritious than a pound of any green you can name.

>>That said, the actual and applied ethics of veganism are focused on causing the least possible harm to the fewest number of others
that's not true though. A low-meat diet would cause far less enviornmental harm than a zero-meat one, because small local farms can operate closed-loop: the relatively few animals are fed entirely on farm waste, while the animal's waste fertilizes the crops. This removes the need for chemical fertilizers and pesticides. It also means you aren't dependent on smoke-bleching ships, trains, and trucks to bring you sustenance in the dead of winter. When you remove animals from the equation you become much more dependant on various sources of pollution. If the goal truly was reduction of harm there would be no "veganism" and you'd be preaching that instead. But the point of veganism was never a practical matter, it's a fucking cult.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 14:10:54 2019 No.11873744 File: 67 KB, 400x400, 1548685504827.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11873555 Trips confirm it. Veganism is a starvation cult, and all the bs about animals and the environment is just garbage they spew to defend and promote the cult.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 14:14:14 2019 No.11873760 >>11865586 Some people, believe it or not, actually live in Nebraska.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 14:18:36 2019 No.11873787 File: 607 KB, 625x595, 247898742.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11865421 >meat is murder! >abortion is a human right! Liberal vegans are on such levels of cognitive dissonance it's depressing

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 14:51:53 2019 No.11873935

>>11873481
Sure, some cows eat grass, yet the majority of crops are grown for feeding livestock.
>>11873555
>But that feed is often plants which require no effort whatsoever to grow.
Uh, no it isn't. Vast farmlands are used to grow food for farm animals. Many studies show side-by-side comparison proving much less environmental impact from vegetarian diet.
>small local farms can operate closed-loop: the relatively few animals are fed entirely on farm waste, while the animal's waste fertilizes the crops
This is impractical fantasy that's not scalable. As I've already said, the reality is that indistrial animal farming dominates, and that makes vegetarian diet far more efficient and cleaner.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 15:05:31 2019 No.11874000 >>11873744 O B S E S S E D

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 16:58:15 2019 No.11874608 >>11873744 https://youtu.be/s35sbAnX9Rs

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 18:26:43 2019 No.11875047 >>11873787 I hate humans and love eagles so your pic makes perfect sense to me.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 18:33:04 2019 No.11875082 >>11873787 I think meat is murder and I eat meat. You gotta kill something before you eat it or else it gets all upset and bloody, which is very inconvenient.

Anonymous Thu Feb 7 19:06:50 2019 No.11875213

>>11875047
Humans are objectively worse than eagles and all other animals for that matter. It's the only species that would continue on a path of annihilation of itself for mythologies and short term profits while acting with full awareness of the consequences of their bankrupt moral and ethical decisions. Abortion is simply the rational choice if you have compassion for a womb growth of the potential human which would be forced to suffer in the aforementioned ongoing creation of a dystopia. I've proved it, yes, all other animals are superior to humans.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 7 19:46:03 2019 No.11875395 >>11872322 Veganism is just the new way to virtue signal.

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