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>"carbs make you gain weight" - keto dieters
>"vegans are so weak and skinny"
>vegan diet is 90% carbs

explain this /ck/

>> No.11763005

>>11763001
I'm gay btw, idk if that matters

>> No.11763008

>this thread AGAIN
has it been two in the same day or one per day? i can't tell

>> No.11763035

>>11763001
not all carbs are the same, baka, lrn2google

>> No.11763072

>>11763001
STOP SHILLING THIS INDUSTRY PLANT FOR BLACK USE ONLY PEDOPHILE BAIT PRE SCHOOL PROSTITUTE BY HER PARENTS OWN ADMISSION THIS IS AN INDUSTRY P L A N T AND HER PARENTS WHORE HER OUT TO BLACK RAPPERS

>> No.11763074

>>11763035
>not all carbs are the same
then why do ketoers treat all carbs the same?

>> No.11763092

>>11763001
>"carbs make you gain weight"
Wrong.
There is only one possible way to gain weight: energy intake > energy usage

>> No.11763097

>>11763092
i feel like everyone is forgetting this in favour of meme diets

>> No.11763106
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11763106

>>11763092
>There is only one possible way to gain weight: energy intake > energy usage
>actually believing this

people actually think 3000 calories of chicken is the same as 3000 calories of rice

l m a o

>> No.11763135

>>11763106

This is basic high school AP Bio stuff... proteins take longer & more energy to break down, and is not converted into sugars in your bloodstream. Carbs will spike your blood sugar, your insulin response, and is more efficiently stored as fats.

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>>11763135
>Carbs will spike your blood sugar, your insulin response
OH BOY HERE WE GO

>> No.11763144

>>11763106
It is tho
The only difference is that it's much harder to eat that amount of rice than that amount of chicken.

>> No.11763154

>>11763144
All kinds of wrong and easy to prove.

>> No.11763158

>>11763072
>HER PARENTS WHORE HER OUT TO BLACK RAPPERS
So there are more pics? Pls tell me there are more pics!

>> No.11763168
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>>11763158
SHE'S AN INDUSTRY PLANT AND PEDOSTUTE

>> No.11763182

Does anyone actually do Keto for life? Most people I see do it to lose a bunch of water weight super fast.

Also, you can do vegan keto. I just hope you really like avocados...

>> No.11763210

>>11763072
>>11763168
I genuinely don't know what the fuck you're trying to tell us

>> No.11763220

>>11763168
Just answer the fucking question!

>> No.11763228

>>11763210
>us
literally only you cared, dude

>> No.11763229

>>11763001
she looks like a girl i once knew in high school, she didn't eat meat and was really weak and frail because of that. but she still looked like the girl in the picture, i wonder if she has started eating healthily...

>> No.11763255
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11763255

>>11763220
>>11763210
!!!!!

>> No.11763256

>>11763001
I am so sick of seeing this girl. I think people post her just to trigger me.
and i guess this guy>>11763072
but i dont really follow him.
I am just sick of every poster acting like this gilr is the hottest person alive. She is not that attractive.

>> No.11763328
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11763328

>avoid dairy because you think consuming the milk of other mammals is unnatural
>get most your your calories from grains

>> No.11763411

>>11763106
people actually think 3000 lbs of rock weighs the same as 3000 lbs of iron

l m a o

Youre either dont know what a calorie is or trying to meta troll badly, either way you are retarded

>> No.11763430

>>11763154
A calorie is not a measure of nutrition or the mechanism by which something is metabolized. Therefore yes 3000 calories of chicken is equivalent to 3000 calories of rice.

>> No.11763434

>>11763255
Naisss

>> No.11763450

>>11763255
Who is this? Asking for a friend

>> No.11763503

>>11763255
This nigga eating toes!!!

>> No.11763541

Obviously you should eat a highly varied diet of meats and animal products, and plants, including grains. That's all you should eat really.

>> No.11763671

Ketotards are the most disgusting, stupid fucks on earth. All of their public figures and idols are on anabolic steroids and/or huge amounts of stimulants.

>> No.11763691

>>11763328
I think "drinking milk is unnatural so you shouldn't do it" is a stupid argument, but a lot of animals eat seeds while not many drink milk from another animal.

Although ants "milk" aphids for their honeydew, even though it's not technically milk, it's still similar enough to show that we aren't the only organism engaging in that kind of practice.

>> No.11764047

>>11763255
Not the same thot mongoloid

>> No.11764079

>>11764047
Yes it is

>> No.11764093

>>11764079
No it isn't you fucking faggot. The other girl that was posted is Billie Eilish who yes is in fact a coal burning industry plant but the one in OPs pic is not the same girl but most definitely gets plowed by Jamal all the same.

>> No.11764109

>>11763256
Shes pretty close to the hottest person alive though
Guess you're a chubby chaser or fag or something. She gets posted so much for a reason

>> No.11764290

>>11763182
I've been doing what is now called keto for well over a decade for my migraines. Given the alternative I dont ser myself ever getting off the diet.

>> No.11764293

>>1176341
>thinks "is the same as" is the same as "weighs as much as"
>illiterate detected

>> No.11764340

>>11763450
That's Billie Eilish, you mong

>> No.11764424
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>>11763092
This. Being a vegan takes resolve, effort and a lot of willpower. Things fatties are incapable of. Hungry fatty? Better call ubereats and have a few quarter pounders delivered, you lazy fuck.

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>>11763001
I JUST WANT ONE SNIFF!! IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK!?

>> No.11764447

>>11763001
daily reminder that you should eat a balanced diet that includes all of the food groups and you should only consider keto et al. if you have already become overweight

also reminder that there is nothing morally wrong with consuming meat. the only reason to not eat meat is because of global warming, and even then it is only necessary to abstain from eating meat (and cheese) for one day out of the week. it is completely unnecessary for anyone to go full vegan.

>> No.11764454

>>11763430
Your body will respond differently eating 3k calories of chicken compared to rice you fucking retard. One will lead to your body storing more fat

>> No.11764654

>>11763430
>>11764454
You're both right to a degree. The technical definition of a calorie is a fixed amount of energy, but the values used to estimate labels on food are based on feeding people samples and measuring the calories they actually gained. Longer term effects of particular diets are not well studied.

>> No.11764857

>>11763106
>But steel is heavier than feathers

>> No.11764859

>>11764857
funfact: gold is measured in troy ounces, feathers in english ounces. An english ounce is heavier than a troy ounce.

>> No.11764868

>>11764859
Not what I was referencing, but that's interesting.

>> No.11764897

>>11763143
carbs are just complex sugars anon
this is highschool science. you know monosaccarhides di saccarhides and polysaccarhids. complex poly s.(example starchy foods like rice) get broken down into mono s. (glucose). glucose is the body's main source of energy and the unused glucose gets converted amd stored as lipids(fat). 3000 calories of protein will not affect you how 3000 calories of carbs will.

>> No.11765057
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>>11763001
That's a lie. Vegans arent weak and skinny.

>> No.11766572

>>11764454
>One will lead to your body storing more fat
ONLY when you don't burn those calories. If you burn them there is nothing to store. Hence >>11763092

>> No.11766683

>>11765057
what a fat disgusting whore
that's no true vegan

>> No.11766858

>>11763092
I eat 1500 calories a day and the calculator in the sticky tells me that I spend 3500. And yet my weight's been the same for the last 10 days. Explain that shit.

>> No.11766872

>>11764424
All it takes is low test, a buttplug and a brainwashing.
Hope you have kids one day so you can experience the glory of killing it with oat milk because your wife can't produce milk anymore due to diet.

>> No.11766875

>>11766858
>Explain that shit.
you underestimate your intake and/or overestimate your use, it's a pretty common problem.

>> No.11766882

>>11766875
Well, the use is based on the sticky, so that's not me. And my intake is carefully calculated based on the labels, since I only eat pre-packaged meals from Tesco, because I'm broke again. Yesterday, for example, I ate a salad(191cal) and two pizza pockets(290 cals each) and had a protein shake.

>> No.11766891

>>11766882
Are you including dressing and dipping sauces in the calorie intake? Drinking anything other than water/unsweetened coffee tea? What do you do that makes you spend 3500 calories?

>> No.11766895

>>11766891
PPLPPLx
No, I'm only drinking water. Yes, I'm counting the dressing, it's on the bloody label.
Hm. Maybe the calculator in the sticky isn't in calories, but kJoules? I mean, it says calories, but fuck if I know.

>> No.11766920

>>11766895
Aaaaand I just realized that I'm on the wrong board.

>> No.11766926

>>11766895
You might be overestimating the intensity of your workout. It could also be that your body is adapting to the calorie deficit and hasn't started burning fat yet though, although I'm not entirely sure how it works, but if you're actually eating at a deficit you should see weight loss at some point.

That calculator seems fucky though, it says I burn about 2.8k calories per day but I know that's higher than what I actually use. So if your requirement is lower that means it's going to take longer for weight loss to happen.

>> No.11766931

>>11766858
>I spend 3500
Doubt

That's 1000 above the daily average for males. To burn 1000 cals you need to run at 8 mph for 60 minutes.

>> No.11766994

>>11766895
Also make sure the label is actually for the whole packet and not a "Serving Size".

>> No.11767017

>>11763210
He has schizophrenia

>> No.11767129

>>11763001
Stockholm subway, Sweden/

>> No.11767199

>>11764109
>furrowed brow with huge neanderthal forehead
>monkey mouth
>basic bitch tiffany necklace
>niggerfucker outfit

she's got an amazing body but meh tier bitchface, and again, 100% fucks niggers.

>> No.11767225

>>11766931
Unless he gets it from being massively obese.

>> No.11767260

>>11767199
i always wonder why people don't consider the face to be part of a body

>> No.11767265

>>11767260
Saying body is easier than saying torso and appendages in this context.

>> No.11767420

>>11763074
Because all carbs invoke a glycemic response however that response occurs at different rates for different carbs and carb+noncarb mixtures

>> No.11767424

>>11763001
>>"carbs make you gain weight" - keto dieters
Any keto dieter who doesn't preach CICO doesn't know what they're talking about

>> No.11767430

>>11764109
she's fuckable but your virgin is showing, go get yourself a call girl or something. this is embarrassing

>> No.11767440

>>11767424
>keto
>CICO
Pick one. The entire premise of CICO is that nothing else matters - you can survive forever on glucose syrup. Once you admit that humans cannot survive without protein, fat, and micronutrients, it's no longer CICO

>> No.11767516

>>11763135
you're right but no matter how much you explain it to these brainlets, they will never understand. They simply cannot process this kind of information. Try teaching maths to a dog. Same thing

>> No.11767762

>>11767440
When considering weight gain/loss cico is 100% true. But if you are so retarded that you translate that to "i can has cookies all day" then there is no point talking to you. It is obvious that energy intake is not the only measure of a healthy diet. The human body needs a broad variety of nutrients to stay healthy.

>> No.11767789

>>11767762
It's also 100% meaningless, it's like saying "to avoid drowning avoid breathing water"

When you hear someone spouting CICO that's a red flag that they have no idea what they're talking about

>> No.11767797

>>11763001
wow her face looks EXACTLY like mine when i was like 15.

>> No.11767810

>>11767789
>thermodynamics is fake, guys

>> No.11767848

>>11767810
Looks like we found one. Quoting sciency-sounding words on 4chan for euphoria. You're going to go far in life.

>> No.11767862 [DELETED] 

>>11767848
>sciency-sounding words
Are you a 13 year old girl?

>> No.11767886

>>11767862
No, I'm a 34 year old man who learned about thermodynamics from a physics class and not a reddit argument about fat people.

>> No.11767895

>>11767886
How are calorie labels on food calculated?

>> No.11767901

>>11767848
but weight is in calories in and calories out
that's all it is and all we're talking about

>> No.11767906

>>11767895
You mean how do they decide what a serving size is with respect to calories, or how does the USDA calculate "requirements", or how do people know how many calories are in a certain quantity of an ingredient?

>> No.11767907

>>11767895
Why would what he know matters to convince you? All you want to do is be right and him be wrong.
What matters is that it's the truth and your body isn't special, you don't have one of those ultra-rare glandular problems to blame for your obesity.

>> No.11767913

>>11767901
"We"

No. You decided it was only about calories. Even the op's pic says literally nothing about calories, the topic encompasses issues as wide ranging as veganism and physical strength.

Have you considered a lawsuit? Because your education system failed you.

>> No.11767923

>>11767906
The last one. Honestly I'm just looking for an excuse to bring up Atwater factors, because I think the research was really interesting and a lot of people still think it's all bomb calorimeters.

>>11767907
This isn't the fight you're looking for.

>> No.11768037

>>11767862
he's trying to talk to one. gotta speak their language, get up with the homies, that sort of thing

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>>11764109
Damn you are dillusional

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>>11763001
>baby face

>> No.11768324

>>11767913
Better read the thread again, I thimk you mist a few posts.

No matter what you eat, it is impossible to gain weight if you burn more cals than you eat. Carbs may be bad for you, but if you eat carbs with X calories and you burn more than X calories you can NOT gain weight.

>> No.11768542

>>11764454
Which is totally irrelevant because that anon didnt say they are nutritionally different, he said they were calorically different which is akin to saying 1lb of rock weighs more than 1lb of sand.

>> No.11768558

>tfw I keep getting reposted
Fuck off virgins

>> No.11768611

>>11763106
>>11763135
Mostly because your body can't process 3k calories of protein. Your liver simply can't.

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can't hear u with my vegan-friendly airpods

>> No.11768996

>>11763001
Processed carbs like sugar/white flour make you gain weight, especially since theyre typically prepared with cheese and oil. Unprocessed starchy foods are very filling and near impossible to gain weight on

>> No.11769011

>>11767199
That body though. Something about her makes me want to have sex with her while other people watch. I want people to witness the moment I nut inside her.

>> No.11769028

>>11769011
Yeah something about an attractive female makes them attractive, I wonder what the fuck that could be.

Seriously are you 12?

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>>11768324
>is impossible to gain weight if you burn more cals than you eat.
True but less significant than you might think. It is possible to gain *fat* while burning more calories than you eat, and it is possible to starve to death while eating more calories than you burn. Both of these require a fucked up metabolism, but fucked up metabolisms are depressingly common nowadays. These have been known since the 1800's with documented cases (hyperinsulinemia caused by e.g. pancreatic tumors and hypoinsulinemia caused by e.g. autoimmune disorder), long before the start of internet history. Hyperinsulinemia is now one of the most common diseases in the world.

>> No.11769235

>>11768542
No he didnt, you just read what you wanted to see and ran with it.

>> No.11769239

>>11769011
You arent Muslim enough for her.

>> No.11770499

>>11763001
>I listen to what people following retarded fads say

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>>11763001
>explain this /ck/
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-bes/
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as/
>http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/opinion/veggie.html
>https://thetab.com/uk/2017/02/16/vegetarians-unhealthy-mentally-disturbed-says-new-research-33067
>https://plagueofstrength.com/the-war-on-coffee-and-common-sense-or/

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>>11772292
>thinking based vegans bother reading your wall of copypasta
bitch we're too busy being healthy and virtuous to bother with that shit

>> No.11772312

>>11772310
Based

>> No.11772324

>>11772292
I'm not vegan and I ain't opening that shit!

>> No.11772430

>>11772324
No one does, he's just an autist who feels compelled to post it in every vegan thread.

>> No.11772477

>>11763001

The train whore goes into the wank of fame collection

Fuck all diets just eat less you fatties

>> No.11772881

>>11763001
Volume.

>> No.11774480

>>11772310
Is that a girl or a boy? Asking for a friend.

>> No.11774524

>>11774480
>never heard of the movie "True Grit" (1969)

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>>11763255
>row 2, column 3

>> No.11774570

>>11768611
I routinely eat 3k cal of protein and my liver is fine.

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>>11774480
Girl, disguised as a boy for plot reasons. Here she is disguised as a deer for plot reasons.

>> No.11774807

>>11774524
And xe was possibly the worst actress to ever appear in a John Wayne movie.

>> No.11774862

>>11774807
That would be Glen Campbell, anon

>> No.11774864

>>11774570
Broccoli doesnt count, it isnt real protein.

>> No.11775354

>>11763074
>>11767420
complex vs simple carbs

carbs in a vegetable not the same as carbs in a chocolate bar. nutritional value is key.

body can function, without supplements, on 20g carbs a day. THE RDI OF CARBS FOR SOMEONE WITH DIABETES, AS PER YOUR NATIONAL DIETARY GUIDELINES IS SOMETHING LIKE 200-500G. THE LOWER RANGE BEING CONSIDERED A LOW-CARB DIET.

SORRY BUT ONCE YOU TAKE THE REDPILL YOU WILL REALIZE "DO NO HARM" ONLY WORKS IF YOU AREN'T WORKING BASED ON SKEWED DIETARY AND MEDICAL STUDIES FUNDED BY MAJOR FOOD CORPORATIONS.

>> No.11775742

>>11763001
maybe 90% carbs by macro count. vegetables are very scarce on macros, including carbs, which is part of the problem. the other is that protein is used to build and repair tissues, so the scarcity of protein in vegetables also contributes to a lack of tissue growth