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11692934 No.11692934 [Reply] [Original]

For most of my life, my family always had at least one milk cow. Most recently, before we stopped keeping any farm animals, we had a lovely Jersey cow. She was perhaps one of the gentlest animals I have ever know, she adopted many calves. It truly was a sad day when she passed away in her old age.

My question is this. What if I had a friend who ran a dairy farm and he could no longer afford to keep the business running. If I were a vegan, would it be inapropriate to that way of life to take a cow into my care and use the milk she produced? A milk cow needs to be milked while she is producing, else they are extremely uncomfortable and at risk of a life-threatening infection.

>> No.11692985

>>11692934
Not a vegan but if you treat the animal well there is no moral issue. Vegans can get fucked

>> No.11692989

Why are you artificially inseminating her by shoving your fist up her ass biyearly in the first place? Cows don't produce milk if they haven't recently given birth. You could simply enjoy her company rather than use her. I bet she'd make a great lawnmower if you require exploitation.

>> No.11692992

>>11692934
No.
Milking a cow and stealing its nutrients is almost as bad as murder.
You are compliant in her rape.

>> No.11693004

Vegans are retarded by their very nature, why the hell are you trying to appeal to them?

>> No.11693035

>>11692989
Well, if you read the post, she is from a dairy farmer, so, nothing to do with me.

>> No.11693039

>>11692992
Once again, if read the post, it is cruel to not milk a cow when she is producing milk already.

>> No.11693052

You're supposed to develop your own moral compass, and do what feels right regardless of what other people think, do, or say.

That's what an adult does.

>> No.11693057

>>11693039
Regardless, it's better to leave them alone and in the wild.

>> No.11693069

>>11693035
You still have to inseminate her.

>> No.11693076

>>11693069
Does she have a phone number?

>> No.11693113

>>11693057
Really? It's better to let it suffer than help it?
>Because nature.
Never thought I'd hear a vegan say that

>> No.11693160

>>11693113
>Really? It's better to let it suffer than help it?
If it keeps it away from carnists? Yes.

>> No.11693220

>>11693160
It's a milk cow. It was never intended to be eaten, not from what OP has said.

>> No.11693634

>>11693076
t. texan

>> No.11693644

>>11693057
>it's better to leave them alone and in the wild.
No it isn't. The majority of animals suffer horrible deaths in the wild and are constantly going through violent struggles. Maybe being in the wild is better than being on a factory farm, but an animal on a small farm lives a much better life than a wild animal.

>> No.11693650

>>11692934
Some will say yes and some will say no. Some vegans will eat eggs if it comes from a pet chicken that won't be slaughtered. Some vegans treat animal products like a spiritually contaminating substance and won't ever eat them in any case. They don't all follow the same thought process. It's why some support lab-grown meat and some don't, too.

>> No.11693695

>>11693160
>carnists
like wolves, foxes, coyotes, mountain lions, bears, and eagles?

>> No.11693705

>>11693650
Anon, fyi rational posting is generally not appreciated in vegan/carnist tribal warfare threads.

>> No.11693718

OP here. So, from what I am gathering from this thread is this. Most vegan know little to nothing about farming. Kind of sad.
Oh, btw, many small dairy farms only artificially inseminate to bring in foreign or famous families. Mostly, they keep a few bulls in the herd. Really, bulls are far better at judging when a cow is in heat.

>> No.11693727

>>11692934
No, the lactating cow must be allowed to suffer and die a horrible death. To do otherwise is to violate vegan catechism, and why are we calling it CATechism anyway, that's speciesist.

>> No.11693730

>>11693718
>Most vegan know little to nothing
That about sums it up. You expected better from people who think it's ok to murder plants but eating animals is wrong?

>> No.11693752

>>11692934
When vegans get a cow, say at some cow rescue farm or something, they would take care of the cow and make it's life pleasant as they can, but they would NEVER let it reproduce, either by sterilizing or sex segregation.

And in veganites mind, the only answer to your lactating cow is she should be feeding her own babby cow, never humans, who would be stealing her milk. You are stealing her milk, and you have broken up a cow family for (separating) her from her calf.

Bottom line is, in veganworld there are no baby cows ever. Or dogs, when (animal lover) veganites get a dog, they sterilize it immediately, a disgusting mutilation ritual, but for animal-hating Satanists, just part of their normal.

>> No.11693755

I regret starting this thread.

>> No.11693762

So, when I ignore all the needs of my stray animals in dwarf fortress and just gather my food from the wild, i am roleplaying as vegans rather than just being lazy.

>> No.11693776

>>11692934
There's no vegan pope, so you'll get different answers depending on who you ask.

To me, the end goal of veganism is both environmental than ethical, so that would certainly be okay. I also support hunting, for instance. Most non-retarded vegans will say that it's okay in your case since the alternative is death or suffering. The long game of being a vegan is to make it so people won't need to make that choice by way of rolling back much of the genetic tinkering done to animals such as these in the name of meeting increased demand.

Retarded vegans will say that you have to release the animal and let it die in suffering because they never think more than one step ahead.

>> No.11693783

Why do you care? They're vegans they have mental issues. Why bother to ask them anything?

>> No.11693784

>>11693039
>>11693057
>>11693113
>>11693644
>>11693160
Does this mean that /ck/ is so retarded that it believes some of the most obvious false flagging I've ever seen, or does this mean that the average vegan is so retarded that most people can't tell a real one from a false flag?

>> No.11693791

OP is clearly a closet fag.

>> No.11693800

>>11693784
You write that like a nut but aren't specific about anything. You tell me what the false flag is without links. I bet you can't because you're a fuckin' nut job.

>> No.11693855

>>11693800
I fucked up my replies, yeah. The point is that any vegan who thinks "Send the animal to die in pain because it's better than humans touching it" is to the vegan movement as PETA is to the animal rights movement in general.

>> No.11693862

>>11692934
Who cares, they're inferior to humans. They're tools for our bidding, do what ever you want with them. Morals and ethics are nothing but emotion drive thoughts. Do whatever is most logical.

>> No.11693864

>>11693855
We all know that vegans have mental problems and should seek therapy. You should know better, even drunk on 1/1 I know better than them.

>> No.11693870

>>11692985
I don't know why the thread's still going, we got it in one

>> No.11693882

I guess it doesn't mean much, but even drunk on 1/1 I can write better and more succinctly than some vegan cultist, and this isn't even professional stuff.

>> No.11693915

>>11693862
Beware the triffids!
http://otrarchive.blogspot.com/2009/04/day-of-triffids-bbc-otrr-certified.html

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>>11693718

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>>11693727
>speciesist

>> No.11694175

>>11693882
Nice comma.

>> No.11694178

>>11694142
>Fuming

>> No.11694179

>>11693755
I feel you. I am a vegan but don't like using that word because it associates me with a certain demographic, who on one hand, I can understand why they are the way they are. Yet, on the other hand, many seem to just want to force everyone to be like them.

It was said best in this post
>>11693052

>> No.11694186

>>11694179
>many seem to just want to force everyone to be like them.
Ding ding ding ding ding!
Holy shit I ran out of cars, but tell this Anon what he just won!

>> No.11694189

>>11694168
>asian salami

>> No.11694190

>>11694186
Don't get me wrong. There are people on the other side of the argument who are just as intolerant and pushy as those vegans.

>> No.11694200

>>11694190
And the most annoying thing is that both try to use the moral high ground.

>> No.11694212

veganism applies even more (unwritten) rules on top of an over-regulated western society.

I value my freedom too much to willingly abandon .

>> No.11694223

>>11694200
I started due to a dietary issue, then later developed a passion for animals. This whole split vegan vs carnists thing just seems like another form of division amongst people. No different than racism or class-ism.

>> No.11694238

>>11694212
Ignoring this retarded faux ancap faggotry

Here are the rules
>dont kill or exploit animals

Vs

>you can kill animals....
>with a license.......
>at X time during the year.....
>but you can only harvest X amount....
>and you cant distribute it raw....
>alongside meeting X standards of welfare.....

But I guess fascism isnt fascism when you impose it on lives you deem unworthy

>> No.11694259

>>11694178
>I can't formulate an argument against this
>you mad
Surrender accepted

>> No.11694289

>>11694223
Yeah, I actually don't consider myself a vegan since I support hunting and fishing. If people weren't retarded, it'd be very easy to see that it's not an either/or thing.

>> No.11694297

>>11694142
But vegan milk isn't milk by any definition of the word. If I make up my own terms, I can make anything look like anything.

>> No.11694309

>>11694212
>megacorporate regulation is the same as a half baked evangelical movement
Hubby, get the camera, babby just mouthed his first adherence to a hack economic philosopher, Ayn Rand!

>> No.11694324

>>11694238
i don't deem any life to be more or less worthy than my own. i'm the kind of guy who will ushe a spider out of the house rather than kill it. sometimes i'll even leave them where they are to catch flies.

but i gotta eat and meat is more readily obtainable then many other protein sources. i'm not gonna impose any more rules on myself for the sake of appeasing someone else's ideology. fuck that. i'm free!

>> No.11694332

>>11694289
>im vega but i support the needless death of animals!!!

Powerful

>> No.11694342

>>11694332
The typos make your bait way too obvious. Don't overthink things.

>> No.11694345

>>11694332
It’s not needless, their deaths help improve biodiversity and the environment, plus it gives rednecks something to do that isn’t destructive

>> No.11694352

>>11694324
>kills a deer because he’s too much of a manchild to eat vegetables

>i value all life equally!!!!
Sure

>muh broteen!!!
Braindead

>i'm not gonna impose any more rules on myself for the sake of appeasing someone else's ideolog
Cool. So if I stab you with the ideological basis of “fuck rules xDD” will you accept that? Or will you realize the idea of imposing your own will unto others is a contradiction to “freedumb xD” ? And again, having 40 billion hunting regulations is objectively more burdensome as rules than a uniform single one

Of course you’re just a cafeteria libertarian who couldn’t even define his own ethics without being a bumbling mess

>> No.11694357

>>11694352
what's your end game?

>> No.11694359

>>11694342
Nice argument. Hope you didn’t think copying that unwitty garbage was effective

>>11694345
Slaughtering animals into near extinction because YOU exponentially displace them is basically bloodletting

>> No.11694361

>>11694345
The actual reason is that hunting and fishing ensure a wide range of untouched wilderness and funding for same. Far fewer animals are killed by hunting than are saved by preserving the wilderness. Since humans don't see the value of preserving wilderness in and of itself, that's the best we can do for now.

>> No.11694366

>>11694357
Oh look, another braindead fat carnist that can’t keep up with his own autistic third grade mental gymnastics. You’re dismissed

>> No.11694373

>>11694324
Flyhater detected

>> No.11694392

Vegans are the niggers of the food world.

>> No.11694405

>>11692934
OP your entire issue is that you are stupid. Vegans who pose questions like your two paragraph moral dilemma demonstrate that their IQ is at the place where they don't understand their own ethos, let alone logic. This is exactly the kind of person sucked into a cult. Did you go to college yet? Support yourself yet? When are you going to become an adult? You might have too much time on your hands.

In the case of a failing farm...If someone can't afford to keep their business running, they sell off their assets. It's what they do. They do it year to year as a matter of business, buying or selling. They know what to do. There ARE going to be other farms looking to buy, or they'll be sent to slaughter so the burden is over for all. A cow used to milk production is going to dry up eventually from medication, in case you want to put that cow out to pasture each day, park it in your barn on cold nights, and take care of it til the end of its life.

Know this, cows are not noble or intelligent mammals, and their existence is to be bred and born in the first place is to dairy and meat production. You can say what you want about all of the industry being what it is, but no one who obviously understands comparative animal behavior will indicate any high intelligence in cows.

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>>11694373
the flies are ok but mosquitos can bite me

>> No.11694423

>>11694405
I dont see any high intelligence in you. You just posted a giant word salad full of nothing but iceberg. Cringe & dismissed

>> No.11694430

>>11694405
You... You realize that OP never once said he's a vegan, and in fact implied that he isn't, right?

>> No.11694443

>>11692934

>Young me
>Grandparents have a milk cow in the village, along with chickens and 2 goats
>Call her Donna
>Why?
>Donna requires daily brushings, otherwise she gets upset and sad
>Doesn't drink water from ditches or where other cows drink, only at her fountain at home
>Friendly as fuck, wants to be pet all the time and lick you
>Grandpa installs DIY sprinkler hose, turns it on thrice a week, Donna stands under the water to shower/keep clean and actually rotates to wash all her sides

>Milk her once a day, tons of milk to feed grandparents, my family and make cheese and butter
>If she has a calf, 2 of the tits go to the calf, 2 to us
>If we sell the calf to the butcher and she doesn't see it, she gets sad as fuck so grandparents sell them to the nearby free-range milk farm so Donna can see her calves from the stable
>We milk her for 1 year after she gives birth, then take her to the village's Chad bull to get impregnated

Having a cow was fun as fuck. Also unpasteurised cream milk was THE SHIT

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>>11694430
His whole schizophrenic schpiel had absolutely nothing to do with what OP asked. The overly defensive carnist especially has low EXTREMELY low testosterone which makes it prone to emotional non sequitir outbursts

>> No.11694447 [DELETED] 

>>11694405
>You might have too much time on your hands.
w-w-was that a threat? b-b-because it c-came across as a threat.

>> No.11694570

>>11694443
Best way to keep a cow. We only ever got milk from our milk cows incidentally. Most of it was taken by her calves, which we usually gave or sold to famillies in the area.

>> No.11694626

>>11694570

Thanks man. My grandad always wanted to sell calves to the butcher because they would pay much more, but my dad (grandpa's son) and grandma understood that the emotional well-being of the milk cow was important for the family's milk.

Which is surprising compassion and logic from people that also owned a horse named Nigger (in our language)

>> No.11694731

>>11692985
Vegan here, this answer is appropriate. Everyone saying its cruel if you gently milk a cow is trolling.

The reason we dont drink cow milk is because it has no place in the human body or diet. You can use it to make cheese and other things that taste good are are addictive, but milk is for baby cows. Nature intended this way. Going against this because uhhh muh milk I had it my whole life is just horse hockey. People are usually upset by this.

>> No.11694747

>>11694731
>Nature intended this way.
Nature also gave you canine teeth you utter mongoloid.

>> No.11694749

>>11694731
But milk is delicious and it makes me feel good when I drink it

>> No.11694751

>If I were a vegan

You can stop right there. It doesn't matter. You're a childish vegan. You lack the mental capacity to understand the ramifications of any decision. You merely exist to tell people that you eat vegetables. You do not matter, none of this matters.

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>>11694747
Oh wow look at this vicious meat eating carnivore!!!
How much of a braindead NPC are you?

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>>11694751
Low testosterone carnie fatboy gets triggered after three words and bursts into a non sequitir tirade. Imagine my shock

>> No.11694799

>>11694780
Did nature also intend for you to cook your food with fire? Or wait, don't tell me you're one of those paleo faggots.

>> No.11694814

>>11694799
Appeals to nature are retarded, however appeals to canines are ALWAYS dumber

>> No.11694819

>>11694142
"Just so you know, we let the bulls and cows get it on naturally."
>NO YOU DO ALL THIS SHIT
Fucking vegans...

>> No.11694822

>>11694814
Why? 100% of meat eating animals have canines. Just because a few omnivores have them too it makes the entire argument irrelevant?

>> No.11694832

>>11692934
It would stop producing milk after a couple months, then what? Gonna slaughter it?

>> No.11694842

>>11694289
>Yeah, I actually don't consider myself a vegan
Reasonable.

>>11694332
>im vega
Retard.

>> No.11694852

>>11694142
>retards: throws a rock at the wall when he wants to make an RTS game
>non-retards: employs dozens of artists, programmers, and game designers over many months to create a fully featured competitive RTS with many options and viable paths to victory
>wtf non-retards btfo

>> No.11694856

>>11694822
Yes.

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>>11694822
All meat eating animals are also animals. Care to make a sound thorough argument instead of throwing shit at a wall?

>> No.11694867

>>11694842
It’s almost like considering yourself in favor of animal welfare while supporting hunting is ACTUALLY retarded, dumbass

>> No.11694872

>>11694861
>muh nature
lol

>> No.11694886

>>11694443
>Enslavement and forced rape.
>The best life.

>> No.11694906

>>11694872
But you were the one that made the appeal to nature argument in the first place?

>> No.11694909

>>11694867
Nah, it's more like you strawmanned so hard that everyone could see your Downs through text.

>> No.11694949

>>11694786
You are a brainwashed member of a starvation cult so you deserve endless ridicule.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8SwO3OMIiE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ

>> No.11694986

>>11692934
That cow looks kinda sexy.

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>>11694909
No, it’s more like you’re a seething fatty desperately looking for a zinger

>>11694949
Carnists are fat inbred retards that eat against their own interests

>> No.11695031

>>11694990
Ad-hom from my enemies is like positive reinforcement so thanks, doubly ironic that a spokesman for a self-harm emaciation cult is calling me a retard.
(Warning---DO NOT WATCH the vid with the 23 year old girl it is fucking horrifying, but it serves as horrible proof of how staggering unhealthy the deficient veganites diet is)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZ5EmmOQ3dI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBJtHMDI5-s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x8XtDBljU&app=desktop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw

>> No.11695035

>>11695031
>intersectionalism is okay when i do it!!!

>my enemies
Cringing at your entire pathetic fucking existence

Nobody is going to watch your demonetized videos, Tristan

>> No.11695099

>>11695035
I'm not Tristan, but I love him (no homo)
Every time I post these videos a thousand people see them. Even feds, mods and Jew watchdog organizations are forced to watch them lol. So thanks for the opportunity and remember, you are a brainwashed victim of emotional propaganda you fucking retard and the whole world laughs at you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4JzgDhCwfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs

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>>11695099
Nobody is watching your videos or paying attention to your schizophrenic rants, Tristan

Carnists are fat inbred retards that eat against their own interests

>> No.11695127

>>11694861
Does anyone trust these images? Is it really hard to look at unbiased and true scientific research when it's freely available? For fuck sake, why are people this lazy?

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>>11695127
Unbiased and true like so?

>> No.11695149

>>11695136
Like reading an article written by someone with actual credibility in the field, presenting valid a scientific method and reasonable findings. Not a jpg uploaded in an imageboard by an Anonymous dude that I know nothing about.

>> No.11695184

>>11695149
Why shoot the messenger?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1534437/

Scihub will bypass any paywall

>> No.11695451

>>11695127
The infographic with the teeth, claws and jaws comparison means absolutely nothing.

Only thing to compare is the stomachs we are born with. (One stomach simple carnivore system) our stomachs, which are the only thing that needs to be considered (not teeth, eye spacing etc) are closest to wolves and Lions, and we are polar opposites from cows, sheep and other real herbivores.

Veganites can lie to themselves that they are herbivores, but after ten fifteen years of denying their stomach the food it needs (animal fats) their teeth start falling out, only the mirror will finally convince a vegan retard how wrong he was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw

>> No.11695483

>>11692934
In a Vegan world livestock wouldn't be a thing. They only exist because humans kept them alive in captivity for food.

>> No.11696010

>>11694780
This animal eats raw meat, wtf are you on

>> No.11696014

>>11696010
Carnist propaganda.
And poor one at that.

>> No.11696030

>>11694238
Hunters saved animals populations such as the elk and bison. If we didnt have hunting seasons on elks for example, theyd eat up a bunch of pasture needed by other animals as well.

>> No.11696036

>>11696030
Wouldn't be a problem if you didn't destroy their forests to make your animal slave pens.

>> No.11696038

>>11693057
So wolves, coyotes, or hunters can play hide and seek with the cow. Nice.

>> No.11696100

>>11696014
>Chimpanzees over-hunt monkey prey almost to Extinction. (Obviously something that we made up)

http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150728-chimps-nearly-wiped-out-monkeys

Veganism is a cult of liars, obviously every post you make will involve some degree of lying or deception.

>> No.11696113

>>11696036
>Forests are never cut down for massive soy production for my veganites Soylent burgers.
>Forests are never cleared for more avocado plantations for the veganites cult.

Just look at your posts and be amazed at how much one cult of retards can lie.

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>another vegan thread

>> No.11696227

>>11693755
Not a vegan but I am vegetarian. I'm increasingly coming around to the idea of buying animal products (including meat) from small scale farmers who treat their animals well. It's incredibly difficult to run an ethically minded farming business and I feel like I'd rather support those who are doing it well than remove my dollar from the argument entirely and let the plebs keep supporting the factory farms until the ethical ones are all gone.

>> No.11696229

>>11693776
>I also support hunting
This. If hunting is in place to ensure sustainable population, I'd rather eat the meat than it go to waste.

>> No.11696306

>>11696229
>Hunting.
>Removing animals from nature.
>While also pumping lead into the ground.
>At all ever "helping the environment"
How can carnists be so dumb, do you lick your bullets?

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>>11692934
Holy fuck this is either a phenomenal troll or a massive cuck. It doesn't matter though because /ck/ bites 3/10 bait. I expect this to be 300 replies in 24 hours.

Just you watch anon. Bump because accelerate the cancer at this point let's straightline this board niggas.

>> No.11696350 [DELETED] 

>>11696306
No we write prominent vegans names on them

>> No.11696357

>>11696306
>Doesn't understand how forest management works.
>Presumably thinks the woods are full of wolves to maintain balanced elk populations.
>Thinks this is an infomed decision.

Sorry, sweetheart, but if you actually give a shit about wildlife you should probably try doing a little research instead of just sucking down whatever artificial-strawberry-flavored shock swill peta is pumping out these days.

>> No.11696371

>>11694747
This, I had a friend die when the milk got stuck in his throat cos he never chewed the it enough.

>> No.11696406

>>11694352
>too much of a man manchild to eat vegetables
I assume he's eating a side of potatoes, pasta, or rice, and vegetables alongside his meat.

>muh broteen
People who live an active lifestyle or who are trying to build muscle need more protein than your average person. Getting this entirely from plant sources is either more expensive or comes alongside a shitload of carbs.

Also, you're retarded for only looking at the number of rules instead of their impact on your freedom. A prohibition against the use of animal products could be split up into a billion individual laws prohibiting the use of each individual animal product. The impact would remain the same. And then there's the fact that some laws and regulations increase freedom by protecting the rights of individuals, ensuring accessibility to all, and preserving things for the next generation. You really have a child's grasp of reality, laws, and freedom.

>> No.11696420

>>11694444
Look at the numbers underneath those graphs. Nobody in their right mind eats that much protein and so few carbs.

>> No.11696421

>>11694886
>release milk cow into the wild
>she gets beset by wolves, bears, cougars, etc.
>if someone releases a bull into the wild then the dairy cow will have to contend with the bull forcing himself on her
Yeah Buttercup sure is living the dream in the wild

>> No.11696424

>>11694731
>cheese
>addictive
>Nature intended this way.
I know you're retarded, but please explain why humans evolved lactase production that lasts into adulthood?

>> No.11696428

>>11696420
Dude, he got quads with the number 4, he's won, just... let this one slide.

>> No.11696437

>>11694861
>chimpanzee
>frugivore
Chimps hunt and consume meat. Also, humans have a longer small intestine and shorter colon than other primates, because we evolved to eat more meat than other primates.

>> No.11697564

>>11692934
I am not a vegan but I think it would just be illogical not to be able to do that. If you're opposed to ingesting any animal product even if attaining it means the animal will be happier than if you didn't, then it goes from being a moral choice to being some kind of strange ideology.

>> No.11697567

>>11693057
>leaving a domestic animal in the wild

>> No.11697936

>>11694886
Yeah but she got plenty of brushies so I’d say she had a good life

>> No.11697940

>>11696437
Chimps are frugivores. Habitually and biologically. Anecdotes do not change this

>> No.11697954

>>11694142
>Vegans - plow down natural ecosystems to plant almond trees. Use tons of California’s precious water supply to grow a handful of fruit. Forcefully move and disrupt homes of innocent bees to pollinate their murder fruit leaving them with parasites and diseases. Use illegal migrant farmers to harvest the almonds, paying them unfair wages while also eliminating American jobs. Haul those almonds using carbon spewing trucks to carbon spewing factories that grind their almonds with water taken from poor water starved areas and filter it, bottle it, and ship it to stores in heavily gentrified neighborhoods that disrupted the original communities in order to have a trendy location

Wow much better than cow’s milk real sustainable guys. Good job

>> No.11698029

>>11697954
>Blaming vegans for the plight of bees when the destruction carnists do with their slaughter factories and destructive hunting does far, far worse.

>> No.11698133

>>11698029
>Blaming organic pasture raised beef eaters for the Walmart chicken and hog shoppers.

Walmart meat shoppers are not here. You need to go scream at them at Walmart if you want to talk to them.

Nigger, I buy grass fed beef. I pay the ranchers so they can pay the property tax so cows can literally be born and have some good times on pasture, out in nature, with their cow friends. Cows are born because of my money, and have some fun with their pals in nature, because of me, you're welcome.

You pay for pesticides and you pay farmers who intensively cultivate the land, which involves killing every living creature on the cropland with pesticides. If you love animals kill your fucking self.

https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>> No.11698168

>>11694731
>live in an air conditioned house
>eating prepared food
>driving a car on roads
>wearing clothes
>hurr nature intends durr

>> No.11698229

>>11697954
>them dagnabbed illegal furriners is stealin' our good american jerbs pickin' almonds and lettuce 12 hours/day for a pittance
No american would do that and any who tried would collapse within 4 hours blubbering like a babby, Cletus.

>> No.11698280

>>11694731

Your first three sentences were correct. After that you showed you don't really know what you're talking about.

I'm all for cutting the amount of milk in human diets, cow-product needs to be cut in general, but there's nothing about nature that says humans can't drink milk. Maybe shouldn't, but when the fuck has that stopped anyone?

>> No.11698349

>>11696227
I'd recommend it anon, I try to buy my meat from a local farm that runs a butcher shop and restaurant. Makes me feel good that I can drive past the farm and see the cows, pigs, and etc walking around and getting exercise. Also if you can get honey from the closest possible source it's apparently even better for you. I manage to get mine just down my road and it's fantastic. Another way to ethically get meat in my mind is to hunt. It's sustainable and results in a lot of meat per animal killed, especially the deer we hunt. It's also very tasty meat from the varied diet they get to have in the wild.

>> No.11698356

>>11696306
>Hunting with a gun
If you weren't a faggot you would know that bow hunting is a far longer season in most states

>> No.11698373

>>11698029
Have fun with the hive collapse vegfag, good luck hitting your nutrition needs without bee based pollination

>> No.11698381

>>11698349
>ethically slaughter an animal for my fat mouth

Carnists

>> No.11698389

>>11696306
If it wasn't for hunters, we wouldn't have sustainable national parks and the states would have sold every inch of landscape to companies like Monsanto to feedyou.

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>>11698373
>a bloo bloo plants are the real racists! plants which animal agriculture requires btw!!!

>> No.11698402

>>11698389
If carnists weren’t fat psychopaths who shot and tore down everything that wasn’t as fat as them we wouldnt “””need””” hunters to begin with. We’d also be able to divulge funds to sustaining our own country if we didn’t funnel it to Israel but that’s another discussion

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>>11698397
>i-its not fair!!! its the almonds getting slaughtered!!

>> No.11698444

>>11698381
Sorry that doing something that humans have naturally done for millions of years hurts your feelings

>> No.11698455

>>11698397
Yes goy keep eating your garbo- I mean carbohydrates

>> No.11698458

>>11698444
So with that in mind, what are your thoughts on John Podesta?

>> No.11698459

>>11698389
>sustainable national parks and forests
Those were sold to the multinational fracking and coal corporations this year so they won't be sustainable for long.

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>>11698413
>Facts are a conspiracy except if it fits my narrative!!!

>> No.11698537

>>11698402
Please stop using the word "we" unless you are explaining "we are not the same species" I have no kinship with you please die.

You probably won't stop stealing cows food but whatever, just go get sick eating grass and branches and post your emaciated body on Jewtube like all your vegan NPC comrades do..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFnkWjmvMOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJnPZgLHHWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4JzgDhCwfc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HwBtRlyxPs

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>>11698537
Didn’t read lol

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Carnists are fat inbred retards that eat against their own interests

>> No.11698592

>>11698461
twf potatoes!!!

>> No.11698621

>>11698567
You will see what those videos show, ten years from now in the mirror (skinny emaciated toothless vegan skeletons)

Or you will quit Veganism which sane vegans do, when they notice their health going quickly south....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwS1hNQftCg

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OH NONONONONONO

>> No.11698711

>>11698637
But I eat meat and my cholesterol values are immaculate!

>> No.11699243

>>11698637
>OH NO NO NO NO NO TEETH!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x8XtDBljU

>> No.11699327

How to understand Veganism? An Messianic anorexia cult??

>I BELIEVE THAT SHE WILL WIN!
>I BELIEVE THAT SHE WILL WIN!
>I BELIEVE THAT SHE WILL WIN!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39uFhAN4MVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzA4TmfqyOY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCeA238F_Us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dl5z6LWpnc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QanA2kfiupk

>> No.11699617

>>11698133
Oof, you failed there. The best beef is fed a sensible combination of roughage and grain. Not that tough grass-fed leather. Ideally, send them out to pasture, but provide them a steady supply of that tasty, tasty grain.

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Carnists are low IQ, low T, obese, inbred, schizophrenic, eat and vote against their own interests

>> No.11699648

>>11699628
>not even a standard deviation
>n2 = 65
why the fuck am i even posting this you don't even know what that means

>> No.11699666

>>11699628
Is the number under the IQ number the number of people that responded with yes or no? If so, that statistic is laughably skewed.

>> No.11699689

>>11699628
>source : dude trust me

>> No.11699708

>>11699617
You forgot to add "in my opinion" you have your opinion, I have my opinion. If we're both carnivores there is no sense arguing.

>> No.11699719

>>11699708
Sorry, I just get so irritated with this grass fed beef fad. You're right, I should have added that. But, I am not a carnivore. I am an Omnivore.

>> No.11700024

>>11699719
I use the casual definition of carnivore because I don't have a PhD in "eating stuff"

>Carnivore - any creature that eats meat.

And even grass fed beef get cake along with hay in the winter, and probably get finished off with grains in a feedlot. This argument between carnivores is not helpful in my opinion.

My only argument is with emaciated insane vegan imbeciles.

>> No.11701094

>>11700024
>Carnivore - any creature that eats meat.
should be
>carnivore - any creature that almost exclusively eats meat

>> No.11701562

>>11701094
"Carne" = meat
"Vor" = eat and/or pertaining to eating simple as that.

Do you eat meat? If yes you are a carnivore, if not, you are not a carnivore. Veganites themselves even confirm this, with their use of the ugly sounding term "carnist" which vegans use to indicate and insult carnivores.

>> No.11703246

>>11692934
Stop forcefully impregnating the cow and stealing their children and maybe they won't need you to milk them?

>> No.11704103

>>11701562

Such a CARNAL conversation.

>> No.11704332

>>11694852
>RTS
rock throwing simulator?

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>>11692985
>Vegans can get fucked
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-best.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html
>http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/opinion/veggie.html
>https://thetab.com/uk/2017/02/16/vegetarians-unhealthy-mentally-disturbed-says-new-research-33067
>https://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-war-on-coffee-and-common-sense-or.html?zx=8d20dd9d8e82ef7a

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>>11692985
>Vegans can get fucked
>>11693783
>>11696138
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-best.html
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html
>http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/opinion/veggie.html
>https://thetab.com/uk/2017/02/16/vegetarians-unhealthy-mentally-disturbed-says-new-research-33067
>https://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-war-on-coffee-and-common-sense-or.html?zx=8d20dd9d8e82ef7a

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>>11694990
>>11695121
>>11695136
>>11698567
>>11698637
>Contrary to popular belief, consuming a higher amount of fat (about 35 per cent of energy) is associated with a lower risk of death compared to lower intakes. However, a diet high in carbohydrates (of more than 60 per cent of energy) is related to higher mortality, although not with the risk of cardiovascular disease.
>The research on dietary fats found that they are not associated with major cardiovascular disease, but higher fat consumption was associated with lower mortality; this was seen for all major types of fats (saturated fats, polyunsaturated fats and mono unsaturated fats), with saturated fats being associated with lower stroke risk. The researchers point out that, while this may appear surprising to some, these new results are consistent with several observational studies and randomized controlled trials conducted in Western countries during the last two decades.
>The large new study, when viewed in the context of most previous studies, questions the conventional beliefs about dietary fats and clinical outcomes, says Mahshid Dehghan, the lead author for the study and an investigator at PHRI.
>https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/08/170829091027.htm
>https://authoritynutrition.com/it-aint-the-fat-people/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/top-8-reasons-not-to-fear-saturated-fats/
>https://authoritynutrition.com/saturated-fat-good-or-bad/
>https://chriskresser.com/the-diet-heart-myth-cholesterol-and-saturated-fat-are-not-the-enemy/
>http://www.uib.no/en/node/103172
>http://www.healthline.com/nutrition/5-studies-on-saturated-fat
>http://bjsm.bmj.com/content/early/2017/03/31/bjsports-2016-097285
>http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jcem.85.1.6291
>http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/05/bcfa-gut-health-immunity-cancer.html

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>>11694731
>The reason we dont drink cow milk is because it has no place in the human body or diet.
>Milk is for baby cows. Nature intended this way.
Nature doesn't have intentions. It's a word for whatever happened and persisted in the world. And both parasites and symbiotic relationships have existed long before humans were around. Orchids wouldn't exist without insects to transport pollen from anther to stigma for them. Blood of other animals is used for leeches to feed in an equally valid and natural way as it's used by those other animals to deliver oxygen to their cells. There's nothing "unnatural" about one species making use of another species.

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>>11694731
>The reason we dont drink cow milk is because it has no place in the human body or diet.
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/01/true-or-false-dairy-is-toxic-hormone.html
Also doubt the"milk=prostate cancer" entirely especially when in the article it says:
>Estrone and prostate cancer risk in men: As far as the estrone levels Maruyama et al. measured in their 2010 study are concerned it is very difficult to tell, whether or not the 26% increase in E2 levels is or isn't a problem.
>The estrone values in the Maruyama study are unrealistic. With a normal range of <68pg/ml the subjects in the Maruyama study would have elevated E1 levels to begin with, if the measurement was correct.
>difficult to tell
>unrealistic
and
>What remains to be seen, though, is whether future epidemiological evidence will support or refute the currently heralded hypothesis that dairy consumption increases prostate cancer risk and whether we will be able to identify more feasible explanations for this relations than those that are implicated by the results Maruyama et al. present in their 2010 study.
>http://sciencedrivennutrition.com/hormones-milk/
>http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/05/bcfa-gut-health-immunity-cancer.html
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2013/12/dairy-good-bad-or-ugly-latest-studies.html
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2016/07/cheese-your-health-cvd-cancer-metabolic.html
>http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07315724.2011.1071999
>https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods/milk
>http://southeastdairy.org/three-surprising-health-benefits-chocolate-milk/
>http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/benefit-drinking-chocolate-milk-athletes-6965.html
>https://www.livestrong.com/article/46306-chocolate-milk-nutrition-information/
>https://www.healthline.com/diabetesmine/from-jdrf-detroit-lessons-on-chocolate-milk-and-a1c-imperfection

>> No.11705689

>>11693057
>Regardless, it's better to leave them alone and in the wild.
Domesticated animals are not wild animals. Thousands of years of human-selected evolution have changed how they live. Anyway, where is this "wild" you would ship the cow off to, how would it get there, and what herd would it join? And how would it know what to do to survive once it got there?
Moron.

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>>11705688

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>>11705688
>>11705690

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>>11694731
>You can use it to make cheese and other things that taste good are are addictive
>https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/foods/cheese#section1
>http://suppversity.blogspot.de/2014/05/bcfa-gut-health-immunity-cancer.html
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2013/12/dairy-good-bad-or-ugly-latest-studies.html
>http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2016/07/cheese-your-health-cvd-cancer-metabolic.html

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>>11694861
>http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/
>https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Meat+in+the+human+diet:+an+anthropological+perspective-a0169311689
>https://www.livescience.com/23671-eating-meat-made-us-human.html
>https://www.livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html
>"People who read books know a fact that vegetarians do not- that at one point in history, the Earth's total population of humans dropped to between 5,000 and 10,000 individuals, due to the eruption of Mt. Toba in Sumatra, which killed off most of the available plant and animal life on Earth in 71,000 BC. During this period of time, humans were confined to an extraordinarily small area of Africa that escaped glaciation, where they subsisted on a diet that was "approximately 50-70% meat and 50-30% plants, respectively." This diet was necessitated by the die-off of plants and animals, and the lack of a varied diet that could have been otherwise obtained though plant gathering. It was at this time that the Neanderthal diet came to consist of naught but meat, due to the complete lack of availability of edible vegetation, which likely lasted for at least 1000 years.(Plants/climate) "
>http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/07/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as.html?zx=19c1d9e7ae7f06a5

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>>11694780
>>11694786
>>11694861
>Humans are like other great a-

>> No.11705748

>>11705689
>Domesticated animals are not wild animals.

Tell that to all the retarded Americunts like you who scream about culling horses from the Great Plains. Domestic animals become wild animals in a couple generations, ten thousand years is nothing on an evolutionary scale.

>> No.11705782

>>11703246
In the world we were born into, these cows would never be born if I didn't slave away to pay ranchers to house feed and provide for them.

These cows literally get a life because of me and you want to kill them. These cows get to live outdoor lives, eat grass their favorite food and have some legit good times with their cow friends and you want that to end?

Vegans are shameless Satanists who hate animals.

>> No.11705990

>>11692934
Veganism is about reducing suffering. So the answer is to take in the animal and provide enclosed pasture and shelter for her. Any milk she is producing currently can be consumed, ideally by giving it to someone who would normally use it, because giving it to someone reduces consumer demand, as they won't buy the animal product that week.

You do not re-impregnate her, so the milk problem goes away eventually.

>> No.11706007

>>11705990
>Veganism is about reducing suffering.

That's a bold faced lie. Harvesting vegetables crops directly causes massive animals suffering, torture and death (one example-chemical pesticides)
https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659

>You do not re-impregnate her, so the milk problem goes away eventually.

Yes, you clearly want to destroy the cows natural instinct to reproduce. You not only hate animals, you want to kill off all cows. I pay money to ranchers so many cows can be born, and your sick Satanic dreams will never come true on this Earth. Go harm yourself and fuck off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IHRP9Fiwoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA0bJNMFsxA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjPt0TAPgoU

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>>11706007
>Harvesting vegetables crops directly causes massive animals suffering

Nope.

>> No.11706048

>>11705748
>Domestic animals become wild animals in a couple generations
Quicker than that. During the civil war when many men in TX left their ranches to fight, their cattle herds became feral and simply roamed the range like buffalo.

>> No.11706085

>>11701562
So if I eat a salad once I become a herbivore, then promptly transform into a carnivore upon taking a bite of steak? It's called an omnivore, you troglodyte.

>> No.11706090

>>11703246
>stealing their children
>their
Animals are objects. They cannot have ownership.

>> No.11706094

I'm going on Primal Edge with Tristan next week to talk meat, anything I should bring up? Also going on sv3rige for an ex-vegan interview. AMA

>> No.11706102

>>11706013
>Dumping thousands of tons of chemical pesticides, on the wild creatures of nature, does not kill any animals.

Just more proof what astonishing liars vegans are.
https://theconversation.com/ordering-the-vegetarian-meal-theres-more-animal-blood-on-your-hands-4659
>>11706048
In Texas yes, Florida yes, but cows can't survive a
Wyoming winter on their own. need shelter and hay, buffalo yes, of course lol.

>> No.11706110

>>11706085
Meat + eat = "meat' 'eat' 'er'.

Are you a meat eater? Yes or no?

>> No.11706124

>>11706094
I forgot to tell you this--

Recommend sverige if he ever does another anti-vegan protest, hold a big open cup of blood in his hand, so if a vegan/s assault him again, he can "accidentally" pour the blood all over the Vegans face and body. It would be fucking epic activism.

>> No.11706139

>>11692934
Dairy production is unironically more cruel on cattle than slaughtering them for beef

>> No.11706149

>>11706124
haha. when i get my carnivore band up and running we'll be drizzling the crowd with blood and distributing high/raw meat like drugs at a rave

>> No.11706170

>>11706110
I eat more vegetables than animal products. Am I a herbivore? herbi = plant, vore = eater. Or am I an omnivore? omni = all, vore = eater.

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>>11697940
That wasn't an anecdote you shit for brains. He didn't say he met a chimp with a short small intestine he stated the fact that all do.

>> No.11706835

>>11706149
Alright bro good luck!
>>11706170
You did not answer my question, therefore you fall under the category of "imbecile"

>A complete fucking retard.

And if vegans want to call me a herbivore, fine with me, your mental gymnastics are impressive.

>Death to carnivores!
>You are a herbivore!!!

OK fine you can end all your vegan protesting.

>> No.11706878

>>11706102
>Dumping thousands of tons of chemical pesticides

Also nope. The biggest source of pollution in my region is the dairy industry.

Most grains and soy are fed to livestock that are then fed to humans. Farm land use and intensity can be relaxed when there is less livestock to feed.


>>11706124
>Recommend sverige if he ever does another anti-vegan protest, hold a big open cup of blood in his hand, so if a vegan/s assault him again, he can "accidentally" pour the blood all over the Vegans face and body. It would be fucking epic activism.

Then we beat his ass because he looks like he hasn't done a deadlift since the day he was born.

>> No.11706901

>>11693052
eh, moral thermometer is way more useful

>> No.11707094

>>11705628
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>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-bes/
>https://plagueofstrength.com/vegetarianism-and-veganism-are-as/
>https://plagueofstrength.com/the-war-on-coffee-and-common-sense-or/

>> No.11707111

>>11707094
That guy cites Mercola like he's a legit source for anything. Basically a retard

Next.

>> No.11707246

>>11706878
>Then we beat his ass because he looks like he hasn't done a deadlift since the day he was born.

Vegans--Bad as hell online. IRL different story lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LajS6XLBfQ

Stick to self harm and being branded, that is what vegans do IRL.

>> No.11707266

>>11707246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8XptE5uc9o

You will never outlift vegans who lift.

>> No.11707316

>>11707266
Let me guess another steroids body who calls himself vegan to impress girlymen vegans like you?? Doesn't bother me. Just one request-- when your teeth fall out like all long term vegans, please post it on Jewtube so I can LMFAO.??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7x8XtDBljU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPDna5Qok2Y

Veganism is a self harm cult, I predict large-group suicide rituals for vegans in near future. I respect your upcoming sacrifice, for the animals

>> No.11707673

I cant tell if that guy with the shitty infographics thats shows up in every vegan thread calling everyone a fat carnist is a troll or not.

>> No.11708131 [DELETED] 

>>11705628
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>https://plagueofstrength.com/the-simplicity-of-dieting-it-really-is/

>> No.11708144

>>11692934
No it would not be inappropriate. My brother is vegan, well officially he used to be vegan, and he eats eggs now because the eggs I give him are from chickens that are literally free.

>> No.11708217

>>11707316
Oh no a guy is stronger than me! Must be the steroids making his muscles grow out of thin air without protein!

Give me a fucking break, you pussy. He lifts more because he outworks and out eats you. You twink

>> No.11708365

>>11698567
that's because you barely know how to

>> No.11708410

>>11707673
You can easily tell they are trolls, probably just insult bots with little independent thought if any.

See this post for example---
>>11708217
Some literal 85 pound faggot vegan NPC who thinks he is providing interesting ad-hom or commentary by calling me a twink (when vegan men are the definition of girlymen) and comparing me to some steroid junkee manlet. (Though I have nothing against the manlet, he is helping rid the world of leftists by herding them into a starvation cult)

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11708437

>>11708410
Twinks...sure.
What's your squat? 300lbs?
Does your girlfriend carry you through the front door on a date?

>> No.11708493

>>11708437
Here is what vegan "men" look like IRL goji man, they all look like you. Right around 80 pounds, completely malnourished and proud of it. Which one of these three vegan twinks is you? These are Israeli vegans so I know one of them is (((you)))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA0bJNMFsxA

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11708512

>>11708493
You seem fixated on skinny guys. Are you one of them?
You got really defensive when I asked if you squat 300lbs. Can you even do that?

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>>11696406
>I assume he's eating a side of potatoes, pasta, or rice, and vegetables alongside his meat.
you are correct

>People who live an active lifestyle or who are trying to build muscle need more protein than your average person. Getting this entirely from plant sources is either more expensive or comes alongside a shitload of carbs.
correct again

>Also, you're retarded for only looking at the number of rules instead of their impact on your freedom.
correctamundo!

be advised tho, the vegan troll mod is happy to shitpost and bait for (you)s but the second you remind her of how her self-imposed restrictions impact on her freedumbs she'll put you in the sin bin for 3 day.

mods, fags, etc

>> No.11708577

>>11705737
you can't expect vegans to know basic human anatomy

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>>11708577

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4245565/
>The vegan gut profile appears to be unique in several characteristics, including a reduced abundance of pathobionts and a greater abundance of protective species. Reduced levels of inflammation may be the key feature linking the vegan gut microbiota with protective health effects.

>> No.11709050

>>11708512
>>11708656
>A self harm cult consisting of sickly waifs what slowly starve themselves to death.

Works for me, just remember I'll be healthy as fuck, laughing at you the whole time as you waste away, teeth falling out, etc etc, then burn yourself to death as the ultimate SJW meltdown. Do it tonight, for the animals!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPDna5Qok2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXu2mWVTOhc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXna7YNLpmg

>> No.11709068

>>11706700
>He didn't say he met a chimp with a short small intestine he stated the fact that all do.
He didn’t state that either, retard.

>> No.11709104

>>11709050
You look like you’re on the verge of a complete breakdown.

>> No.11710197

>>11709104
Collapse from laughter watching you nutjobs fall apart would be more accurate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nf7wAMwfrw