/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.11656066]

Uh white people? you DO wash your meat before cooking right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85H6PqJIrk0

[Anonymous No.11656068]

what is this 'white people don't want their meat' meme recently?

[Anonymous No.11656070]

Whites don't eat meat. It's unhealthy and unethical. Meat is what niggers eat because they're stupid.

[Anonymous No.11656071]

>>11656066
lawd have mercy

[Anonymous No.11656073]

>>11656070
Animals cant think stupid

[Anonymous No.11656074]

>>11656066
i wash my "meat" before cooking haha black queen wants the BWC

[Anonymous No.11656084]

>>11656066
*hands you a piece of chicken with 2 inches of lawrys on all sides*

sorry black people you know its true

[Anonymous No.11656095]

>Hol' up lemme jus' cross-contaminate every single surface within a 10' radius of my sink
You think just because the FDA, every professional chef on the planet, the WHO, every bacteriologist on the planet, and a 6th grade level of heat and bacteria understanding all say that you shouldn't wash your meat means shit when an old black bitch tells you about how she done it on the Cayman Islands back when?

[Anonymous No.11656107]

>>11656095
How about centuries of practice? How about literally BILLIONS of people who wash meat? I guess that means nothing. I guess they're all just dying and diarrheaing all day every day, right?

[Anonymous No.11656117]

>>11656107
>How about all those centuries we literally didn't know how disease worked
>How about literally BILLIONS of people who don't have access to a middle-school level of education
What about them?

>I guess that means nothing.
Yep. The thoughts and opinions of ignorant people performing voodoo rituals on their meat does not warp reality into meaning that doing so does anything at all
>I guess they're all just dying and diarrheaing all day every day, right?
Yeah. In fucking astounding numbers compared to first world countries. If only there were some kind of website where you could google the words "Cholera" or "Dysentary" and get recorded figures of just how much more often people from the old wise countries where they bathe their meat in vinegar and lemon to kill bacteria are literally shitting themselves to death.


Washing your meat doesn't do shit.
Anything on the outside that survives a 450 degree oven will survive your fucking plastic tote of lemon-water.
There's a reason that all the people extolling the virtues of washing meat talk about getting the blood, veins and guts out. Because they don't know jack shit about what they're talking about.

[Anonymous No.11656134]

[Anonymous No.11656137]

>>11656095
>cross-contaminate
You're supposed to clean your kitchen after preparing the meat. Jesus, do people not clean as they prep?

[Anonymous No.11656148]

>>11656066
oh lawd dese white peepo got me weak

[Anonymous No.11656149]

>>11656137
Unless you wear a particulate mask as you work you're getting that shit into your airways too. Same reason air blower hand dryers are garbage. Good luck scrubbing your lungs down with bleach. inb4 i've done it before so it's okay, enjoy your ticking time bomb before making my health insurance rates go up with your shitty life decisions.

[Anonymous No.11656156]

>>11656066
>DON'T THEY WATCH TV?????
literally stupid, they don't understand how cross contamination works

[Anonymous No.11656157]

>>11656137
Or I could just not create and then need to dispose of an objectively superfluous container of bacteria laden grey water that will require me to bleach my sink multiple times per week.

You know why people ACTUALLY wash their meat? Because they let it get that layer of slimy layer of literal bacterial shit on the outside from letting it sit for a week and a half.
The shit that is also beneath the meat's surface when those people serve you their nasty-ass rotted ghetto meat.

[Anonymous No.11656163]

>>11656149
our health coverage rates are going up more because of the people in OP's video.

[Anonymous No.11656164]

>>11656149
Are you retarded? Meat particles aren't going airborne into your lungs when you wet it.

[Anonymous No.11656170]

I'm not racist but this shit annoys me

Black people also think that white people undercook and don't season their meat.

[Anonymous No.11656175]

>>11656164
>what is an aerosol
Enjoy your hospital stay.

[Anonymous No.11656187]

>>11656134
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[Anonymous No.11656198]

>>11656066
>they start talking about getting the blood off
It's not BLOOD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.11656215]

>>11656107
>How about centuries of practice?
Appeal to tradition fallacy, doing something for a long time doesn't necessarily mean it's good.

Diarrhea is a pretty common problem and cause of death in a lot of countries still.

[Anonymous No.11656229]

>>11656066
Quit forcing this race war against whites and blacks when in reality we're ALLIES AGAINST THE MEXICANS Don't you get it????????

[Anonymous No.11656234]

>>11656095
You would be cross contaminating the sink and every other shit if you wash you cutting board after cutting the meat anyway.
Washing meat is necessary to remove any non organic contamination such as weird chemicals, gravel, dust, and some organic residue such as spit, mucus, cum, shit, etc.
Would you eat a piece of meat with literal dust and cum on it without washing it?
My uncle is a butcher and let me tell you they don't handle beef nicely and they do occasionally spit and put snot on it. That would not get removed with merely cooking it

[Anonymous No.11656241]

>>11656117
No, they aren't. To the average mother or grandmother washing her meat in her kitchen for feeding her family, there isn't much chance of contamination. If there was, people would stop doing it -- that's just logic.

>>11656215
It's not appeal to tradition; it's an appeal to logic. If a sample size that large are practicing something and it is harmful in a real and direct way, they'd have to be masochists to keep doing it. Nevertheless, people in their billions continue these practices. Even uneducated people would stop doing something if cause and effect was so clearly obvious; but it isn't, because it's not particularly dangerous.

[Anonymous No.11656242]

ITT: absolute retards
https://www.fsis.usda.gov/wps/portal/fsis/topics/food-safety-education/get-answers/food-safety-fact-sheets/safe-food-handling/washing-food-does-it-promote-food-safety/washing-food
>Washing raw poultry, beef, pork, lamb, or veal before cooking it is not recommended
https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/foods-linked-illness.html
>You should not wash raw poultry or meat before cooking it,even though some older recipes may call for this step.
>>11656107
>>11656137
>>11656234
Retards

[Anonymous No.11656248]

>>11656242
The only problem is cross contamination and you would cross contaminate after washing your bacteria filled cutting board anyway retardo, learn to read and analize shit instead of just randomly quoting other people's opinions

[Anonymous No.11656250]

>>11656248
>analize
Retard

[Anonymous No.11656255]

>>11656242
>trusting the USDA

[Anonymous No.11656259]

>>11656234
>My uncle is totally a butcher they all spit and cum on your food
Damn. No wonder black people stuck shopping at nigger butchers wash their meat.
Maybe just look at and don't buy snotty, cumstained, mucusy, snotty meat.
>chemicals
Ahh, you're one of them. Telling.

>>11656241
>If there was, people would stop doing it-- that's just logic.
>Old black women
>Logic
Yeah, that's what's happening.
Your grandmother is taking a logical, constructed action and not merely repeating what her equally ignorant mother and grandmother, who also couldn't even spell the word 'contamination' taught her.

>Even uneducated people would stop doing something if cause and effect was clearly so obvious; but it isn't, because it's not particularly dangerous.
What kind of fucking argument is this?
Because uneducated people can't see the connection between cross-contamination and foodborne illness it doesn't happen?
Literally "I don't get it, so it doesn't affect me".
Fucking astounding.

[Anonymous No.11656260]

>>11656250
I accept your capitulation

[Anonymous No.11656263]

>>11656242
Don't fucking bother.
Science is a lie, my black gramgram said and does this, all those scientists are wrong, etc. etc.

How are you supposed to feel special if you acquiesce to overwhelming scientific consensus.

[Anonymous No.11656265]

>>11656259
Why would a person continually poison their family? Why wouldn't they notice it if it's as dangerous as claimed? Face facts: washing meat is fine.

[Anonymous No.11656268]

>>11656259
You would literally not be able to tell between a 'clean' piece of meat and one a jizzed on 10 minutes ago, you would probably just grill it and cook it.
Yes chemicals such as cleaning agents that could be on the meat and you are ingesting because you didn't wash the meat before
>BUT EVERYTHING IS CHEMICALS I'M CHEMICAL LOL LOL I'M SO SMART
Probably your thought process right now right?

[Anonymous No.11656271]

>>11656265
>washing meat is fine
Except for all the irrefutable evidence that it isn't.
Which is pretty much why the divide between people who do and don't wash their meat lies where it does; between first world countries and shitholes, and between everyone else and black people.

[Anonymous No.11656272]

>>11656255
It's not a matter of nutrition, only food saftey, so I think I'm gonna trust them on this one. Regardless, the CDC agrees with them, so it's probably true.

[Anonymous No.11656274]

>>11656268
Why are you buying meat from butchers that jizz on it? Do you not have a reputable butcher in your town? Are you a poor nigger that lives in the ghetto?

[Anonymous No.11656277]

>>11656268
Not that anon but I fucking pray you get some kind of illness you worthless weeaboo shitbrain.

[Anonymous No.11656278]

>>11656263
>science
Except objectively no scientific study has been linked in that post, nothing but recommendations without any sources whatsoever.

[Anonymous No.11656279]

>>11656271
If it's fine, how are people not noticing? Don't they notice the diarrhea coming out of their anuses after meals? Fact is, the threat is exaggerated, and you can reach that conclusion through basic logic.

[Anonymous No.11656280]

>>11656241
if you actually knew any stupid poor people you'd know they're sick all the time
most of them never even realize they're constantly giving themselves food poisoning

it's not "dangerous" as in it won't kill them but I sure wish it would

[Anonymous No.11656281]

>>11656260
>no retort, only smug
haha gottem

[Anonymous No.11656282]

>>11656274
>he doesn't use his steaks as fleshlights
you're missing out lmao

[Anonymous No.11656285]

>>11656280
I know plenty of poor non-white people who wash meat and they're fine. Stop projecting. If someone is constantly giving themselves food poisoning, I THINK they'd notice.

[Anonymous No.11656288]

>>11656278
Are you implying that federal agencies are not a reputable source?.

[Anonymous No.11656289]

>>11656281
Theres no retort to that post as it's only one word long. Try again

[Anonymous No.11656290]

>>11656268
>Wash your meat, your butcher jizzed on it
I love arguments based on fantasies.

Unfortunately for you the reality of the argument is that the negligible (if you're shopping at a white butcher) chance that your butcher wiped his taint on your meat and that you're effectively removing it (which wouldn't happen if you're merely soaking your meat in vinegar and lemon, which would actually just dilute and spread the germs around the entirety of the meat) isn't in the same order of magnitude of likeliness or danger of you poisoning yourself via cross-contamination everytime you create a bucket of bacterial soup and splash it all over your sink.

[Anonymous No.11656292]

>>11656289
>did not refute the fact that he is, in fact, a retard.
Retard confirmed

[Anonymous No.11656293]

>>11656288
Not in a litigation culture. They're prone to exaggeration. Check out 'use by dates' for another obvious example.

[Anonymous No.11656295]

>>11656290
>cross contamination
Yeah like the ads for disinfectant taught you! It's like the T-virus or something. You're a good consumer!

[Anonymous No.11656296]

>>11656278
>The USDA isn't reputable
>The CDC isn't reputable
>The WHO isn't reputable
>Black grandma and third-worlders constantly dying of cholera are reputable
What a fucking joke of an argument.

Dig that hole fucking deeper.

[Anonymous No.11656304]

>>11656295
>Call the people calling for not washing your meat shitty consumers duped by Big Disinfectant
>Not the people who have to bleach their sink and tupperware multiple times per week everytime they make meat
Utterly incoherent, as expected.

[Anonymous No.11656305]

>>11656295
water sprays it fucking everywhere in tiny particles, the issue isn't whether or not you disinfect, you're getting it on fucking EVERYTHING in the kitchen if you spray it with water and it can last days at a time on most surfaces

[Anonymous No.11656306]

>>11656288
>>11656290
>>11656292
I already refuted it now I'm going to spell it out for you RETARDS.
I didn't say that washing the meat in the sink does not contaminate read my posts.
My point is that, if you wash to your cutting board, knives, hands, etc that handled meat in the sink you would indulge in pretty much the same level of cross contamination anyway. You literally are passing bacteria from the meat yo your board and knives to your sink.
I'm assuming the usda is telling you to not handle the meat at all and just put it straight from the package to the pan. You would be cross contaminating if you don't and would be exposed to the same dangers as washing the meat
Also its a fact that the usda and the other page do not cite any studies along with their recommendations so it's not really correct to call it science until they prove it with a scientific study.

[Anonymous No.11656308]

>>11656296
Everyone in China washes meat.

What now?

[Anonymous No.11656310]

>>11656296
This who needs studies, as long as daddy reputable said it, I trust. That's science!

[Anonymous No.11656314]

>>11656308
no they don't
they boil it before doing anything else to it most of the time

[Anonymous No.11656316]

>>11656305
Do you think people are holding it under high pressure taps? People tend to wash it in a bowl that they reserve for that purpose. Any contamination is occuring in a contained area (usually a bowl in the sink), which will then be cleaned afterwards. The chances of a little splash here or there having any significant difference on the health of anyone in the household is extraordinarily tiny.

[Anonymous No.11656318]

>>11656316
Why have the risk at all?

[Anonymous No.11656319]

>>11656314
Confirmed for not knowing shit

[Anonymous No.11656321]

>>11656306
Wowzer! Look at that weeb backpedal!

[Anonymous No.11656322]

>>11656117
>washing meat is voodoo

wow

[Anonymous No.11656323]

>>11656318
So now it's not "you have to do it because it'll kill you" but rather "e-er why can't you just not do it though?"

You're hanging on by a thread here, chump.

[Anonymous No.11656325]

>>11656306
>Rinsing cutting board
>Same amount of cross contamination as either spraying water directly onto meat or dumping a pan full of grey water down the sink
Brilliant.

>>11656310
No, the fact that I understand how bacteria live and spread and that it conforms perfectly with the conclusion of all those agencies is why I trust it, and (literally) why that is science.
You see, you're one of those dipshits who thinks that scientific skepticism is saying "lol nope, I don't trust them suits, I know better" and then just skips the part where you actually educate yourself to understand why they're wrong. Or in this case, why you're wrong.
Literally on the level of an anti-vaxxer.

[Anonymous No.11656326]

>>11656321
I'm not backedaling, quote my posts saying otherwise, oh wait you won't.
Either way looking at proper sanitation techniques turns out you need like 3 sinks to properly wash your cutting board without cross contamination

[Anonymous No.11656328]

>>11656306
>>11656310
Common knowledge does not need citation. You don't need to cite a study to say that fire is hot, or that bacteria can make you sick. You fuckers would know this if you passed high school writing.

[Anonymous No.11656330]

>>11656323
You admit there is risk in washing meat. Why add this unnecessary risk if there is no benefit?.

[Anonymous No.11656333]

>>11656325
The quality of a scientific study can in part be attributed to its sample size. A good scientific study might require 1000s, tens of thousands, even hundreds of thousands of people. Another way to judge quality is the time spent studying the sample. Years, decades, generations. What if you had literally centuries of practice and BILLIONS of people to study. That's what you can gain from mere glimpses at foreign cultures.

[Anonymous No.11656338]

>>11656325
I'm a man of science sorry, I don't just believe things like you dumb fucks just because someone said it. I need the studies. I don't call random recommendations science either it's objectively not.
>>11656328
So its science or common knowledge?

[Anonymous No.11656340]

>>11656330
To remove debris, undesirable smells, and a psychological component given you have no idea what has touched the meat

[Anonymous No.11656342]

>>11656322
>Put meat in a container of vinegar and lemon water
>Under the impression that you are killing bacteria either 1) at all, or 2) wouldn't have been obliterated by the oven
Literally voodoo
Magic wand waving modern day "I went to a school where kids don't get to go to college", "I don't live near a library", "My phone is good for candy crush" shaman mumbo-fucking-jumbo voodoo.

Which is why, coincidentally, that it is championed exclusively by second generation black immigrants and the people that they can go on to pass their ignorance.

[Anonymous No.11656345]

>>11656342
Still doesn't make it dangerous, which is what people are constantly told.

[Anonymous No.11656349]

>>11656338
Scientific common knowledge. Like the fact that germs cause disease, or thay gravity attracts objects with mass.

[Anonymous No.11656350]

Why do i have to wash my meat if its not something like a fish i have to fillet or whole carcass of an animal?

[Anonymous No.11656354]

>>11656349
Yes germs cause disease that's why washing your cutting board and knives will cause cross contamination just like washing the meat as the bacteria will transfer from the meat to the utensils to the sink

[Anonymous No.11656361]

>>11656338
>I'm a man of science
>Doesn't understand 5th grade bacterial science
>I don't just blindly accept what others tell me, I refute them and then never actually follow up by learning the subject
Nah. Just another dumb cunt on the internet.

>>11656333
Literally arguing that every health body on the fucking planet have spurious studies, without any proof or having even read them naturally.
>What if you had literally centuries of practice and BILLIONS of people to study
That is literally the case. That is why we so thoroughly understand the connection between those billions of people eating their contaminated food and then shitting themselves to death via diseases that literally only exist within meat washing developing countries and meat washing (not) developing communities of first world countries.

[Anonymous No.11656369]

>>11656361
You're confusing certain practices with others. Over time, people have accumulated knowledge about how to prepare food and the WHO or whatever organisation's contribution to that is MINIMAL. It in most part has occured naturally through trial and error and this is why people who wash meat wouldn't dream in a million years of not making sure the pork they washed isn't then properly cooked: they know what is likely to cause harm to their family and what isn't. Again: if this practice is so dangerous then why does China have a population of 1.4 billion? Simple logic that this practice isn't even half as dangerous as is made out.

[Anonymous No.11656375]

>>11656361
Again son, please read my posts I'm not saying bacteria doesn't transfer to the sink. How many times do I need to say this.
I also have refuted the points perfectly read my posts. But to sum it up
>Why do I wash my meat?
To clean it from dangerous chemicals such as cleaning agents and some other things like cum, spit, snot, gravel, dust, etc that would not go away with just cooking it
>I don't believe in cross contamination?
I do but the same contamination will occur if you wash your cutting board and knives after cutting the meat. The only way to be safe is to go from package to pan and most people don't do that so the fear mongering is pointless
>Don't you believe the usda?
I didn't say that, I said that their recommendation are not paired with studies therefore not scientific and it's wrong to call them science without a scientific study


Its not hard to understand

[Anonymous No.11656387]

>>11656375
So you don't accept the USDA or CDC as a valid source.

[Anonymous No.11656390]

>>11656387
>>11656375
>I didn't say that, I said that their recommendation are not paired with studies therefore not scientific and it's wrong to call them science without a scientific study

[Anonymous No.11656404]

>>11656375
No, it's incredibly easy to understand.

You think that washing your meat has a similar level of cross-contamination as washing your cutting board and knives, which is wrong, which you could fucking deduce just by thinking "Is the amount of bacteria from these points on my meat touching my cutting board and knife the same as or more as the entire surface area of my meat that is touching this water".
The danger you've mitigated by cleaning your meat of all the shit in your paranoid fantasy doesn't even begin to cover the gap of danger that you have in exchange created by contaminating more pots and pans, and by contaminating MORE of your sink and its surroundings.
>I said their recommendation are not paired with studies therefore not scientific
So your claim is literally that the USDA, CDC and WHO didn't study this.
That you are such a scientific genius that not only are those organizations wrong, the universally accepted understanding of germs and bacteria as taught in every school in the country, and as acted upon by tens of trillions of dollars of industry ranging from the meat to medical market are all wrong. and that you are right.
And that despite having this groundbreaking, trillion dollar insight into the true nature of bacterial science, you're posting on fucking 4chan about how washing meat is good.


My problem isn't that you're just some facetious memespouting faggot posting smug anime girls on the internet, my problem is that there is a fucking modicum of a chance that you might actually not think that you are actually the stupidest type of nigger alive, the type that thinks that being an educated person means dismissing overwhelming scientific evidence and then saying that because you're too stupid to understand it that nobody else can actually be correct.

[Anonymous No.11656410]

>>11656234
>You would be cross contaminating the sink and every other shit if you wash

>he doesn't pour boiling water on his sink every night before sleeping

Dump animeposter

[Anonymous No.11656413]

>>11656390
So you don't. Got it.

[Anonymous No.11656421]

>>11656410
I do after washing my meat of course, I don't want a dirty sink!
>>11656413
Read the last post again until you get it, until then nice strawman

[Anonymous No.11656425]

>>11656421
Pretty ignorant to not believe two seperate government agencies.

[Anonymous No.11656429]

>>11656425
>>11656375
>>Don't you believe the usda?
>I didn't say that, I said that their recommendation are not paired with studies therefore not scientific and it's wrong to call them science without a scientific study


Can you read son? Do I need to phrase this in a different way so your thick helmet wearing tard brain can finally get it?

[Anonymous No.11656434]

>>11656429
What you claimed and what you said are two different things

[Anonymous No.11656436]

>>11656429
>I don't believe the USDA
>No I didn't say that, I just said that I don't believe the USDA actually studied antyhing
So you don't believe the USDA.
Or the CDC
Or the WHO
Because none of them performed any studies that you consider scientific. Or, more likely, bothered to even look up.

[Anonymous No.11656453]

>>11656436
Don't you get tired of strawmaning?
They might have studied it, or not, I don't know. All I know is that their recommendation are not paired with studies therefore not scientific and it's wrong to call them science without a scientific study.

>holy shit you are dumb it's SCIENCE!
>ok where's the scientific study
>you just gotta BELIEVE I'm sure they did their science things just believe, no wait it's actually common knowledge too
I'm actually laughing my ass off at this shit, it's even worse because I do believe in cross contamination so I'm not sure what you are arguing about holy lmao

[Anonymous No.11656462]

Anyway tards I'm tired gotta go fuck my gf and sleep. Remember to wash your met to remove dangerous chemicals such as cleaning agents and organic matter such as cum, snot, shit, dust, etc.
Cross contamination will occur after washing your cutting board anyway so don't fall into the fear mongering shit! Also there's literally no studies about it and you just gotta believe in the usda and that's how science works apparently(lol)
See ya :*

[Anonymous No.11656466]

>>11656462
So, /ck/, who do you trust in regards to food saftey?
>some weeb on the internet
>the entire American federal govenrment

[Anonymous No.11656470]

>washing something that will be cooked at 450 degrees

LMAO any extremophiles that survive deserve to kill me.

[Anonymous No.11656480]

>>11656265
Why do educated Indians still fear the loo/use hands to wipe?

[Anonymous No.11656493]

>>11656272
>Trusting the CDC

[Anonymous No.11656519]

>>11656480
Superstition.

[Anonymous No.11656521]

I know everyone is memeing but when the old black lady said that she doesn't give a shit about someones credentials in regards to food safety I legitimately got mad.
How can you be that fucking dumb? Is this the finest jamaica has to offer?