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>eat carbs
>become even hungrier
fuck you carbs

>> No.11562359

I'm gay btw

>> No.11562375

>>11562316
Why's the dog holding a spoon?

>> No.11562711

>>11562375
He is the goodest-of-bois.

>> No.11562715

doesn't happen

>> No.11562721

>>11562715
>doesn't know about satiation.

>> No.11562951

>>11562316
>Eat normal balanced die.
>Feel full because that's how food works when you aren't a pre-diabetic fad diet victim.

>> No.11562957

Don't eat carbs, just drink alcohol. Eventually you won't even want food!

>> No.11562962

>>11562711
Le doggo is doing a heckin pupper, best boy having a bork and a floof XD

>> No.11562966

I get extremely full off rice and bread, you’re just gay

>> No.11562969

>>11562962
Yikes, who hurt you?

>> No.11562976

>eat crabs
>crab population slightly reduced
Thanks crabs

>> No.11563024

Why did retards stop eating carbs?

>> No.11563037

>>11562316
intermittent fast for a few weeks and you won't want to eat anything anymore

>> No.11563061

>>11562951
You're a fucking retard

>> No.11563084
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>>11563061
he's not wrong though
most Americans don't know what feeling real hunger really is and give in to their screaming fat cells to engorge them with insulin
then it becomes a negative feedback loop
you don't feel satisfied until you eat more and more to shut your fat up
then you die in the hospital at 61 after rationalizing the last few heart attacks you suffered through at home were just "tests from god" and not at all associated with your poor diet

>> No.11563099

>>11563084
boohoo

>> No.11563112
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11563112

>>11562316
>eat curbs
>property value of neighborhood goes up
Thanks curbs

>> No.11563146

>>11562969
normies

>> No.11563864

>>11562962
but he's not drinking bepis

>> No.11563874

>>11562962
I want to gas you.

>> No.11563882

>>11562316
stop eating refined carbs

>> No.11563961

Do dogs eat carbs?

>> No.11563975

>>11563961
Dogs eat anything they can fit in their mouths, they're omnivores.

>> No.11563985

>>11562375
dogs and koi are natural companions

>> No.11563998

>>11563961
Yeah, I think dogs have some genes to help with the digestion of starchy foods. They aren't carnivores like wolves. Probably wouldn't have been efficient to keep dogs around if they could only eat meat.

>> No.11564214

>>11562316
>eat empathogen
>not hungry anymore for 3 days
thanks science

>> No.11564224

>>11562316
>eat food
>now hungrier
Ask me how i know you're a retard

>> No.11564389

>>11562316
>not drinking water along with the carb meal

Retard

>> No.11564588

>>11563061
I'm sorry you fell for a retarded fad diet.

>> No.11564938

>>11562962
reblogging for truth

>> No.11566446

>>11562375
fucking L O L

>> No.11566767

>>11564214
Which empathogen?

>> No.11566799

>>11562962
Based

>> No.11566817
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>>11563084
>at 61
sounds good to me

>> No.11566840

>>11562316
SCHLOP SCHLOP SCHLOP

>> No.11566881

>>11566767
MDMA I guess but 6-APB could work as well. Anything that depletes your serotonin and maybe lowers dopamine makes you not hungry anymore uwu

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11567250

>eat meat
>no longer hungry
thank you meat

>> No.11568395

that is only true with fructose not sucrose

>> No.11568420

>>11562316
SHLOP SHLOP SHLOP SHLOP

>> No.11568426

>>11563112

Now this is what I call underrated

>> No.11568453

>drink water
>no longer dehydrated thus no longer tired which also lowers the depression rate
Thanks water.

>> No.11568461

>>11563112
Underrated

>> No.11568469

slorp

>> No.11568472

>>11568395
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18065574
>No differences in satiety or energy intake after high-fructose corn syrup, sucrose, or milk preloads.
>>11568453
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/water-works-2/
>Back in 1945 the Food and Nutrition Board of the National Research Council stated that adults should take in about 2.5 liters of water per day (which is roughly the equivalent of eight glasses of water), but it also noted most of that intake level was already satisfied through the consumption of food without the need for the additional drinking of water. And as other nutritionists of the time noted, any shortfall in water intake could be made up through the consumption of beverages such as coffee, tea, milk, or soft drinks; one need not specifically drink water only in the form of water.
>One doctor who has made this his research focus, Dr. Heinz Valtin, searched through many electronic databases and also consulted with nutritionists and colleagues who specialize in water balance in the body. In all of his research, and in all of the research we conducted to double-check his work, no scientific evidence could be found to suggest that you need to drink eight glasses of water a day. In fact, scientific studies suggest that you already get enough liquid from what you’re drinking and eating on a daily basis. We are not all walking around in a state of dehydration.
>>11567250
>zerocarb
Not even going to bother with this one.

>> No.11568474

>>11566840
>>11568420
>>11568469

based

>> No.11568494

>>11563084

M8 are you telling me that there are Europeans who lack access to food and feel "true hunger?"

>> No.11568823

Dog

>> No.11568826

>>11568494
Eastern europeans?

>> No.11568827

>>11568494
it's a meme, bro
you'll understand after you've lurked for 2 years

>> No.11569100

Actual diabetic here. Ignore the memers. You need carbs in your diet, there is none of this cut carbs completely. they're your vital energy source. Just eat less food to compensate. Shrink your portions, and drink more fluids.

Do you abuse carbs? Fuck no, theres no problem with having a little bread or pasta every now and then. I average about 75-180 on a daily basis when it comes to bloodsugar levels, anbd thats without lantus or oral medicines. Its easy as fuck to take care of your body when you understand how much a balanced meal actually does for you. Cut just one block out of that equation, and you defeat the entire purpose of healthy eating.

>> No.11569201

>>11569100
another diabetic can confirm

>> No.11569227

>>11569100
Stop being obtuse. Ketones served the same purpose as carbs, but arguably better.

>> No.11569234

>>11569227
meme science

>> No.11569237

>>11568472
>bro science
yeah, no.

>> No.11569480

>>11562962
Based nofun poster

>> No.11570057

>>11562962
Based pupper

>> No.11570165

>>11569237
>"FRUCTOSE BAD" and "bro, I lowered my depression rate by drinking water because I was """"dehydrated"""" (in the fake sense water bottle companies invented*, not the real sense you almost certainly won't experience given you actually have a sense of thirst** and get plenty of hydration from food***) are legitimate opinions and mainstream peer reviewed evidence suggesting otherwise is bro science
*
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2011/jul/22/had-our-fill-of-water
>Over the last few weeks, those who visited the British Medical Journal's website might have noticed an advert for a new public health initiative, Hydration for Health. It is sponsored by Danone – which owns the Evian, Volvic and Badoit bottled water brands – and urges healthcare professionals to encourage people to drink more water, claiming that "evidence is increasing that even mild dehydration plays a role in the development of various diseases".
>Margaret McCartney, a GP and columnist, saw these adverts and complained about it, writing an article for the BMJ (who admitted "we hadn't followed our own guidelines. The advertisement bypassed our editorial checks") about the lack of evidence – and citing the shortcomings of many studies – that people should be drinking more water.
**
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6514825
>The results indicate that during free access to water humans become thirsty and drink before body fluid deficits develop, perhaps in response to subtle oropharyngeal cues, and so provide evidence for anticipatory thirst and drinking in man.
***
https://www.bmj.com/content/335/7633/1288
>A suitable allowance of water for adults is 2.5 litres daily in most instances. An ordinary standard for diverse persons is 1 millilitre for each calorie of food. Most of this quantity is contained in prepared foods. If the last, crucial sentence is ignored, the statement could be interpreted as instruction to drink eight glasses of water a day.

>> No.11570172

>>11568472
>snopes
Yikes

>> No.11570321

>>11570172
>Complaining about source instead of checking the claim
Hey, retard. Try this one:
https://www.bmj.com/content/335/7633/1288
>A suitable allowance of water for adults is 2.5 litres daily in most instances. An ordinary standard for diverse persons is 1 millilitre for each calorie of food. Most of this quantity is contained in prepared foods. If the last, crucial sentence is ignored, the statement could be interpreted as instruction to drink eight glasses of water a day.

>> No.11570334

>>11570321
You’re wrong

>> No.11570353

>>11570334
I'm sorry you're upset about being a gullible retard who fell for bottled water propaganda. Just try to be less gullible going forward.

>> No.11570434

>>11570321
>diverse persons

>> No.11570508

>eat 2lbs of almonds
>gain no weight
thanks almonds

>> No.11570521

>>11562962
cute!

>> No.11571186

>>11570434
It means "different people." As in "X is a standard amount that would apply for people in general," in contrast with citing a standard for a specific demographic like white German men between the ages of 18 and 25.

>> No.11571349

>>11562316
I don't get the carb hate. I eat a plate of carb and sleep for three days, waking up stronger than ever. I've never been fat. If anything, it's protein that leaves me feeling more hungry. I guess we're all different. Going to go eat a plate of cheese and bread and wash it down with some dark beer, a goodly diet, shared by monks of olde.

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>>11562962
Based

>> No.11571403

>>11562962
based antireddit poster keep our board pure (I mean this unironically btw)

>> No.11571636

>>11568472
most people don't drink enough water, especially when you consider how much salt the average person consumes nowadays.

>> No.11571647

>>11571349
>I don't get the carb hate.

Weak-willed people need a bogeyman they can blame their problems on so they don't have to take personal responsibility. There are lots of potential boyemen, and carbs happen to be the currently trending one. A few years back it was cholesterol, and going back farther it was fat. Now it's either gluten or carbs.

>> No.11571656

>>11562316
but that's not true.
eatin fat makes you hungrier..

Eating carbs makes you full very quickly and for longer too.

The trick is to not eat any fat with the carbs, because fat reduces insulin sensitivity by 60% and screws up the metabolism.

>> No.11571669

>>11571647
Carbs aren't even bad, slow-digesting carbs are totally fine and quick, simple carbs can be useful if you're doing a lot of high-intensity exercise like climbing a mountain.

>> No.11571690

>>11571669
I'm going to carb pill you here

fast digesting carbs help you lose weight because they raise blood sugar quickly, which causes saity so that ya don't over eat.

eating fat doesn't raise blood sugar, so it does not make a person feel full or sated. That is why people often gorge on fatty foods like pizza, fries, burgers, and chips. And fat interferes with the digestion of carbs and insulin response, so pairing carbs and fat together is especially deadly.

>> No.11571726

>>11571669
I didn't say they were bad.

I said that idiots use them as a scapegoat for their own bad habits.

>> No.11571728

>>11563146
This board is just full of women, and everyone knows women are huge fucking normies and aren't very funny. I know some people will think i'm being sexist but i'm really not, these are the facts.

>> No.11571746

>>11571726
I was agreeing with you friend

>> No.11571755

>>11571746
Huh?

>> No.11572445

>>11571728
anon with facts

>> No.11574229

Checked

>> No.11574387

>>11570334
Good job calling someone wrong without evidence.

>> No.11576411

>>11562375
to drink his water idiot

>> No.11576578

>>11571690
Mate I want you to eat eat 1000 Calories of fat free milk and rice crispies
The next day for the same meal I want you to eat 1000 Calories of pork shoulder and whatever other fat you prefer

Which leaves you more satiated for longer?

>> No.11576592

>>11576578
A calorie is a measure of energy not weight or volume you fucking retard.

>> No.11576607

>>11576592
Yes that is what a calorie is. I want you to consume the equivalent amount of energy from primarily high GI carbs and from fat with some protein thrown in.
I then want you to compare when you feel hungry again after the equivalent meals.

>> No.11576655

>>11576607
No you idiot, he's saying if you fill your stomach with more volume of any solid material it'll have an impact on hunger. Why do you think starving Africans eat zero calorie mud cakes? Tricking your stomach with volume isn't the same as the question of whether you get greater satiation from two different sources of calories.

>> No.11576737

>>11576578
>>11576607
You're fighting a losing battle here because fat has 9 calories per gram while carbs have 4 calories per gram. Even if fat is more satiating (which it isn't) how could it overcome its handicap of being more than twice as calorie dense?
Fat is also harder to digest. It is sorta like a thick sludge that requires extra processing. it doesn't raise blood sugar and takes a while to stimulate feelings of satiety. That is why people over eat fatty foods all the time! Their body isn't telling them to stop.

I'm talking about starch here btw. fructose doesn't raise blood sugar. liquid carbs like soda and juice are obviously unhealthy and fattening.

>> No.11576775

>>11576737
>Fat is also harder to digest.
Not him but no it fucking isn't you retard. Fatty meats are the easiest thing to digest. It's shit like fruits and vegetables that don't digest well and require more elaborate GI tracts to break everything apart (in human GI tracts you get a lot of insoluble "fiber" instead when you try to eat those foods, which is another way of saying you get undigested material passing through your system). You're told to eat meat and stay away from high fiber fruits and vegetables when you have intestinal problems for that specific reason.
https://www.webmd.com/ibd-crohns-disease/low-residue-diet-foods

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>>11576737

>> No.11576845

>>11576775
>>11576806
It's a fact that fat takes longer to digest.
Starch is so easy to break down that it is broken down by mouth saliva.

>> No.11576858

>>11576845
Length of time of digestion =/= difficulty of digestion.

>> No.11576893

>>11576858
i disagree in this case.

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>>11562962
I wasn't prepared for this post

>> No.11576951

>>11576845
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starch
>Digestive enzymes have problems digesting crystalline structures. Raw starch is digested poorly in the duodenum and small intestine, while bacterial degradation takes place mainly in the colon. When starch is cooked, the digestibility is increased.

>> No.11576975

>>11576845
>Digesting Red Meat. Digestibility refers to how much of a food can be broken down into necessary nutrients used by the body. King states that 97 percent of beef is digestible, compared to just 65 percent of most vegetables or 89 percent of flour.

>> No.11577003

>>11576951
>>11576975
starch is still easier/faster to digest than fat, regardless of the facts you have presented here.

>> No.11577011

>>11562962
fuck the haters and the jannies, I've always liked a heckin good doggo barkpost

>> No.11577015

>>11576737
Let me get this straight. Carbohydrates satiate for longer because they occupy more space per calorie. And they also satiate for longer because they are used up more quickly. Sounds legit.

>> No.11577022

>>11577003
How is it easier if it isn't easier?

>> No.11577083

>>11577015
>Starch satiate for longer because they are used up more quickly
They raise blood sugar quickly. Which is a satiety signal.

globs of fat sitting in the small intestine waiting to be emulsified and broken apart by enzymes is not satiating, quite the opposite.

>> No.11577112

>>11577015
It still takes a long time to digest starch or fat.

it takes many hours to digest even a simple piece of bread completely

so through that time the bread is releasing sugar into the bloodstream and helping you feel full.

the initial quickness at which starch is digested is important while eating a meal, because it helps signal the body to stop eating.