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/beer/ general
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Previous thread: >>11528037

>> No.11554448

nice al/ck/ thread faggot

>> No.11554457

I work at a liquor store and I'm thinking of starting a beer review channel. Only problem is, I'm 21 and I have no idea what constitutes "good" vs. "shit" beer since I've only ever had light beer, ice cold with pizza or wings.
Where do I start, and how do I mask my unrefined palate?

>> No.11554482

>>11554457
Just start buying random shit. Novices trying top tier beer is genuinely entertaining

>> No.11554489

>>11554482
that'd probably be funny but I'm not the kind of guy who can justify spending twelve bucks on some premium Dogshit Sped that I won't be able to tell from a can of PBR without a couple months' time learning how beers are supposed to taste

>> No.11554495

>>11554448
did you ever enter an al/ck/ thread? It was an entirely unrelated thing

>> No.11554500

>>11554457
>Where do I start, and how do I mask my unrefined palate?
drink a lot of beer

>> No.11554504

>>11554489
>on some premium Dogshit Sped that I won't be able to tell from a can of PBR
Oh, you will be able to tell. This isn't wine where a $15 bottle is indistinguishable from a $60 bottle, you will easily be able to tell even low tier craft beer from macro beer

>> No.11554529

>>11554457
just do it, you will easily be able to taste the difference, just say what you like and try and rate it based on the different categories

(i think they are like taste, smell, appearance, strength etc)

>> No.11554544

>>11554448
The difference being is that al/ck threads are pretty sad asnd depressing while /beer/what'reyoudrinking/ threads are actually fun because we genuinely enjoy drinking beers

>> No.11554554

>>11554457
>and I have no idea what constitutes "good" vs. "shit" beer
about all i can tell is i dont care much for super hoppy beers, taste like pine sol. just start drinking and having fun.

>> No.11554571

>>11554489
>go for variety packs from consistant brewers like Samuel Adams, Sierra Nevada or other suggested brewers that are AT WORST mediocre to find styles you like
>go to a local craft shop or a place you can build 6 packs, talk to shopkeepers on suggestions, its not like game stop where their cringe and fucking obnoxious, most of them are decent people
>Avoid IPAs, Abbey Dubels and tripels unless a friend suggests good ones because on average these styles fucking blow and could turn you off of craft

>> No.11554590
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11554590

>IPA

>> No.11554607

>>11554571
>IPAs, Abbey Dubels and tripels unless a friend suggests good ones because on average these styles fucking blow
I've drank 10x the volume and variety of beer you have and you're wrong.

>> No.11554612

>>11554571
>>11554590
what's wrong with IPAs?

>> No.11554616

>>11554612
Hops don't fucking taste good as the dominant flavor.

>> No.11554618

>>11554612
Apparently the hops are too overpowering and doesn't taste good.

>> No.11554624

>>11554607
They've tasted consistently the same for me, on average don't wow me. I've had plenty of them and couldn't care. Just the same flavor repeated, only a small number of them tasted that different.
>>11554612
Nothing, theres just so many on the market that it just repeats many times over, I love ipas but there's a lot of stinkers.

>> No.11554627

>>11554616
get out of California. If added later in the boil they are great

>> No.11554701

>>11554627
>Implying California doesn't produce top tier DDH IPAs
Come tour LA-OC-SD sometime and learn what's what.

>> No.11554727

>>11554457
Read beer reviews, then eat foods matching the flavour notes they mention in order to contextualise them. If you have a good idea of what a 'bourbon-aged' character, 'notes of pineapple' and 'aroma of bitter citrus peel' are, then you'll be prepared to spot them in any beers you drink. Ultimately, the best critics are also the ones who have the most experiences to draw comparisons from.

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>>11554571
>go for variety packs from Sierra Nevada
>Avoid IPAs
what did he mean by this?

>> No.11554832

>>11554701
Leave your shit tier arrogant monoculture and see what the rest of the world has to offer. As the fags in the last thread pointed out: your fellow fornians dont know popular brands and cant find a bottle shop that can compete with a bumfuck grocery store. Time to move.

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>>11554701
I can get cali stuff and not have to wait in line for it.

>> No.11554906

>>11554832
t. never been here
California hate is best received on >>>/pol/

>> No.11555218

What ever happen to those unhopped ales people used to make? The medieval ales. You'd think it would be popular enough with underaged/sweet-tooth crowd to still be around.

>> No.11555256

>>11554571
>Avoid Abbey Dubels and tripels
What?

>> No.11555759 [DELETED] 

should keep it under 4 or 5 today lads

>> No.11556042

>>11554441
Why do people like IPAs? I live in a city with a ton of small breweries. IPAs are so pervasive but they taste fucking terrible, like some kind of bitter steak sauce. Am I losing my mind or are IPAs a huge meme?

>> No.11556118

>>11554701
they are starting to, but well behind NE and the midwest
but more to the point, the IPAs generally available on the west coast are considerably worse than those in the north. Obviously you can get really good IPA anywhere and its not that hard to find but without doing research you are much more likely to end up with a mediocre one out west (especially CA)

>> No.11556131

>>11554832
I was genuinely surprised how bad grocery store selections were when I was in San Diego last year. The city has so many good breweries but you basically have to go to one or a beer specific bar/bottle shop to really benefit from it. The selection at grocery stores, liquor stores and restaurants was considerably worse than I was expecting especially given the quantity of good brewers around

>> No.11556135

>>11556042
No, IPA is good, what city are you in? Maybe we can point you in a good direction?

>> No.11556147

>>11556135
Fort Collins, CO

>> No.11556161

>>11556131
This is the result of a high barrier to entry for distributors. The big boys get picked up and distributed everywhere out of sheer lack of effort on the part of whoever does the beer order. Much easier to buy every type of domestic from one guy than deal with 15 distributors so Johnny can have his DIPA

>> No.11556169

>>11556147
Tried Odell Cloud Catcher? I had it the other day and it was solid

>> No.11556176

>>11556161
Yeah, but for whatever reason it seems to be much worse in California than say the midwest where I am. The distribution game sucks though, its a shame that the government mandates its existence

>> No.11556280

>>11556042
Alot of breweries make bad beer. The brewery boom is slowing but tons of people homebrew and think they can make it a commercial enterprise. Dont mistake the style for their shit brewing.

>> No.11556333

>>11556280
Its super fucking hard to get the funding for a brewery if you aren't good at it. Its not as easy as just being a hobbyist home brewer. In general most of the breweries from the current boom, especially in more mature beer markets are really good, often better than the previous generation of craft brewers (who are the ones most struggling to keep up in the current climate)
This is especially true of IPA, most of the most mediocre IPA around is from older craft breweries (or fake Inbev craft breweries), its incredibly hard to succeed as a new brewery without at least a pretty good IPA. While many older craft breweries are still selling older style IPAs created before the availability of modern hops and before the popularity of modern techniques (from the dark ages of the West Coast IPA craze).
Very few IPAs from more than 10 years ago are even close to as good as the average new IPA being made today, the exception of beers from the Midwestern tradition instead of the West Coast like Two Hearted, but those are not very numerous

>> No.11556394

is al/ck/ dead

>> No.11556406

>>11556394
beer threads are not and were never part of that

>> No.11556477

>w-we're different
lololol

>> No.11556523

>>11555218
Some folks have started doing it around here... not nearly as popular as it could be, but it might just need some time.

The Belgian-y red trippel/quad I'm slamming into bottles today almost got heather and yarrow instead of Saaz.

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>>11556118
>>11556161
>>11556176
The fucking Target by my house carries Modern Times, Made West, Pizza Port, and Cigar City. Not AAA brands but definitely A list and better than the InBev/Constellation shit you seem to have found while out here.

>> No.11556540

>>11556118
You're delusional.

>> No.11556546

>>11556540
it's a beer thread, maybe he's just drunk

>> No.11556564

>>11556540
Its the plight of the early adopter, a lot of CA breweries are still making outdated IPAs because they started before modern techniques were developed, and now they have brands around them so they can't easily move forward

>> No.11556573

>>11556526
I guess I have a higher standard for grocery stores than a few of the good local things and biggest national craft stuff. Simply, much less space seemed devoted to good beer as I have seen through out the north, and a similar thing with restaurant taps or non beer centric bar taps

>> No.11556583

>>11556573
To be fair you're probably not overrun with Mexicans who cop Modelo and Bud Light by the cart full. That's who buys beer at supermarkets in this region. We have bottle shops and taprooms and direct sale breweries all over for the higher end of the market.

>> No.11556585

>>11556564
>still making outdated IPAs
Funny how you never hear that argument about European beers. California breweries are doing all kinds of shit (though this hazy ipa fad needs to die), and the classic West Coast IPAs from AleSmith, Green Flash, etc. are still around because they're still some of the best. They're only "outdated" because so many breweries copied the style and people got kind of sick of it for awhile.

>> No.11556602

>>11556564
>>11556585
Russian River are basically the originators of the hoppy West Coast IPA and they're still kino. Calling Pliny or Blind Pig dated is just contrarian.

>> No.11556614

>>11556585
Hazy IPAs are way the fuck better than west coast IPAs

>> No.11556620

>>11556602
Pliny was the original overrated meme beer. Its good but by no means deserving of the hype you guys put on it

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>>11556614
¿Porque no los dos?

>> No.11556627

>>11556585
>Funny how you never hear that argument about European beers
I will gladly extend that argument to European beer. Its actually much more true there

>> No.11556632

>>11556620
Like I said, you're just being contrarian.

>> No.11556640

>>11556632
Pretty sure he's just a flyover desperately trying to hold onto the idea that his flyover land is in at least one way culinarily superior.

>> No.11556641

>>11556626
Both are good. I am definitely not saying all west coast IPA is bad. Just that a random West Coast IPA, often formulated in the 90s to mid 00s is considerably more likely to be mediocre than a random modern IPA. Mainly because Citra/Mosaic etc weren't a thing yet and for whatever reason the best old school American hop Centennial was mostly only featured in Midwest IPAs. The other reason being the trend of later hop additions

>> No.11556646

>>11556640
beer is definitely a flyover thing, NYC and LA have never been on the forefront of beer

>> No.11556655

>>11556640
Its more of a north vs west coast thing than coast vs inland thing. Luckily both northerners and west coasters currently have access to better beer than people anywhere else in the world have ever had

>> No.11556659

>>11556646
>everything that isn't nyc and la is flyover
Yet another thing flyovers tell themselves to make themselves feel better.

>> No.11556662

>>11556659
Good luck convincing me Fresno and Buffalo aren't flyover

>> No.11556674

>>11556662
I think I've had 2 different beers from Fresno, and nothing particularly memorable.

>> No.11556681

>>11556646
>Other Half and Monkish aren't at the current forefront of beer
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

>> No.11556684

>>11556681
Having a good brewery per 10 million people does not make your region a leader

>> No.11556689

Drinking /beer/ all day then calling your mother and crying on phone at midnight for half an hour, just /beer/ things. I like /beer/

>> No.11556691

>>11556684
That cope tho

>> No.11556702

>>11556394
Yes.

>> No.11556707

>>11556655
What the fuck is "the north"? I know what PNW is and I know what New England is, and they both have their own distinct beer culture, so is "the north" just another way of saying flyover land?

>> No.11556710

>>11556707
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_United_States

>> No.11556723

>>11556710
>using civil war era terminology to describe 21st century beer regions
Fucking hell, anon.

>> No.11556731

>>11556723
I wasn't describing a specific beer region. Just the best place for beer on a broader scale. A region that is contiguous and includes most of the country's best beer basically extending from New England through the Upper MIdwest to Colorado, the best America has to offer

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>Brut IPAs are taking off in my area
>They're all SHIT and over priced

Nobody I know likes them and most of the customers at my store don't like them. Why do breweries feel like they need to jump on the next fad just because they have a fancy new enzyme or yeast to work with?

>> No.11556746

>>11556731
>"North"
That's not how you spell California Republic.

>> No.11556754

>>11556746
California doesn't even make the best beer on the West Coast, let alone compete with the North

>> No.11556860

>>11556742
That's the thing with quickly changing technology and marketplaces, in order to stay ahead, you have to be ahead. You hit the trend before it's a trend, and if you're a bit late, but you believe in it, you PUSH the trend.

IPA's, hops, yeast labs, and the storefront are absolutely pushing the market, and the market will follow that push right up until the point when it suddenly doesn't... then hopefully there's a bit of headscratching, and everyone starts focusing on what's possible to grow/source locally and cheaply, and what makes sense with their water chemistry. A lot of the problem in Canada right now is that there's a lack of "flagship" beers like the big-boys have. Somebody like Unibroue or Dieu du Ciel, or even smaller guys like (from Toronto, using local breweries here) Halo or Town could do wonders with a beer-flavoured-beer. I'm glad that there are all sorts of sours, stouts, trippels, IPA's, dry-hopped this, and fruit-brewed that, but I think that Unibroue's success above the others is heavily dependent on it's Blanche and Blonde du Chambly.

>> No.11556879

>>11556742
Brut IPA is fine

>> No.11556907

>>11556523
I mean just straight up unbittered.

"Ale is made of malte and water, and they the which do put any other thynge to ale thē is rehersed, except yest, barme, or godesgood, doth sophistycat theyr ale. Ale for an englysh man is a natural drynke. Ale must haue these propertyes, it must be fresshe & clere, it muste nat be ropy nor smoky, nor it muste haue no weft nor tayle."

>> No.11556922

>>11556907
Basically the english hated dutch and german immigrants so the demonized hops for a little while but then everyone realized hops were good so hopped beer eventually took over anyways. This also corresponds with english ale being a thing women made at the household to beer made by men commercially. This was possible because beer without hops and before knowledge of pasteurization went bad really fast, but hops had some antibacterial properties so it allowed it to be made in larger quantities to be sold further away

>> No.11556941

Why is it so fucking hard to find gruit when every other liquor has botanicals in it

>> No.11556962

>>11556941
because no one likes it enough to make it economically viable to make it professionally

>> No.11556963

>>11556922
Does the old household style ale have a new name? It just seems strange that the tradition seems to have been killed off almost completely, even as a homebrewing exercise.

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>>11556879
But they don't taste like anything. They're good for blending to add a crispness but they're like drinking vaguely hoppy water by themselves

>>11556860
More breweries needs to brew German and Czech style beers. Some of the more up and coming breweries in my city are getting clout on their German beers style beers, and this is fucking San Diego. The IPA market is over saturated so the only way to stand out it to brew stuff that's not an IPA or add weird shit into it and hope they work.

>>11555218
Anchor Christmas is a gruit. If you're in the states you should pick it up, it's really good

>> No.11556974

>>11556963
Table beer/Small beer

>> No.11556982

>>11556963
I don't think so. It was probably really weak and not very good

>> No.11556986

>>11556965
>But they don't taste like anything
I've only had a few of them, definitely on the lighter end but I wouldn't get upset about them

>> No.11556999

>>11556986
It's the price factor that really gets me. I haven't seen any cheaper than 15 for a 4pack.

>> No.11557006

>>11556999
oh shit, thats definitely bad. Basically only NEIPA and barrel aged or sour stuff even approach prices that high here

>> No.11557020

>>11557006
The hazy's get me to, some of them are 20 fucking dollars for a 4pack. At the price they're at I may as well just go to the brewery. I'll pay that much for a sour or a barrel aged beer though, because I can appreciate how much time has gone into make them.

>> No.11557050

>>11556965
I agree with you on more German/Czech styles, but some of those things actually require investment in specific equipment.

>> No.11557061

>>11556965
a lot of guys near me do good German stuff, but I still find myself going IPA or stout most of the time

>> No.11557141

>>11557050
For German/Czech? Most of them are aggressively straightforward. Those that aren't are usually differentiated by local conditions - water chemistry/pH, wild yeasts and bacteria, and temperature. All of which can be replicated fairly easily in a clean room with decent temp control. There are even a few attempts at open-air Abbey/Trappist dubbels and dark trippels, (although I'm sure they can't legally be called Trappist) that come pretty close, because the local biome's not too far off of rural, mountainous Belgium.

>> No.11557162

>>11557141
Belgium has mountains?

>> No.11557208

>>11557162
... Bavaria... One of those places that speaks German and smells like sausage.

>> No.11557220

>>11556585
The only west coast IPA I've tried and actually enjoyed was grapefruit sculpin, and stones original IPA. Everything else is a fucking messs

>> No.11557225

>>11557220
>grapefruit sculpin
I'm sorry, anon.

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Rudy Van Der Kelder went into the bottles today. This is roughly 1/3 of what I didn't have room for. As close to perfect as I've ever gotten - the flavour's pretty on for only being 2 weeks old and having a touch of that "I'm not ready yet" acetaldehyde/green apple flavour.

It's exactly

>> No.11557232

>>11557208
>>11557162
I was right the first time... but also the second... but mainly the first.

>> No.11557242

>>11557225
What for? It was a decently balanced beer and refreshing as hell. Cant say the same about most others from california

>> No.11557276

>>11557242
I'm sorry for the shitty distribution if you think Ballast Point (and fucking grapefruit at that) is a top tier California IPA.

>> No.11557280

>>11557276
Sculpin is one if the best classic examples of west coast IPA

>> No.11557293

>>11557280
It's okay, but highly overrated, mostly through their aggressive marketing after being bought out.

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>>11557220
>>11557280
>Sculpin
>Original Stone

>> No.11557315

>>11557293
>mostly through their aggressive marketing after being bought out.
Maybe thats the case out there but here they generated some natural hype when they first entered the market, years before being bought out, but its mostly dyed out since the buyout. I never understood why Sculpin was so overpriced but it is definitely one of the best old West Coast Style IPAs.

The only real difference I noticed after the buyout was a million flavored variants of everything

>> No.11557343

>>11557315
>a million flavored variants of everything
Sculpin and VaS are pretty good, but so much of the flavored shit has just been terrible. I got a watermelon ipa (can't remember if double or triple) on tap one time and it just tasted like they completely botched the batch and then decided to throw in a million jolly ranchers to try to mask the flavor. I don't know who's making the decision to release all this shit, but it's really inconsistent.

>> No.11557383

>>11557343
I think they are doing the classic big brewer strategy of making a bunch of difference shit with variations to take more shelf spots and taps from small breweries, with the added bonus that craft beer drinkers really like trying new things in general

>> No.11557385

>>11557343
The Dorado? That beer's is terrible. A lot the beer they distribute is really bad save Sculpin, VaS, Cali Kolsh, and Sour Wench. It's weird because they usually have a lot of really good stuff on tap at the breweries

>> No.11557404

>>11557385
>the dorado
I was pretty sure it was something I'd never seen in bottles, but looking it up that sounds like it might be what it was. Or maybe they just have really, really shitty watermelon beers (not that I've ever had a watermelon beer that I liked).

>> No.11557409

>>11557276
It was one of the best ones I tried out there. Like I said, it was actually balanced.

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>>11557404
Yeah this crap. They make/made an unflavored one but it's extremely rare. For some reason they still make this crap. Maybe it's popular outside of the San Diego bubble

>> No.11557421

>>11557315
>never understood why Sculpin was so overpriced
Whenever I visit my parents they have a sort of biker bar/restaurant that they eat at probably a couple times a week, and they have Racer 5 for like $4.50, Breaking Bud for something like $5.50-6, and then fucking Sculpin for $7 because who the fuck knows why. Even if they were all the same price I'd probably go for the Racer 5 nine out of ten times.

>> No.11557431

>>11557420
>unflavored one but it's extremely rare
I feel like I see it every time I go down the beer aisle at the grocery store (NorCal).

>> No.11557434

>>11557421
I remember when Sculpin first started selling here 6 packs were going for $14 when local beers of its caliber were usually in $8-9 six packs. It was a good beer and a lot of people bought it once because of the hype but it was impossible to justify repeated purchases

>> No.11557446

>>11557315
>>11557421
It's priced like that because people will pay it. Amazingly, the price actually went down a dollar or two after the buyout

>> No.11557499

>>11557446
>Amazingly, the price actually went down a dollar or two after the buyout
that doesn't surprise me at all actually

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Drinking an old favorite tonight, fucking expensive though, $13 for 4....though that's normal for this hole

>>11556742
IPA is a hipster meme tbqh

>> No.11557590

>>11557579
>anything I don't like is hipster/reddit/soi
Gas yourself quite honestly

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>>11557590
Never said I didnt like them

Also
>writing soy as soi on THE cooking board of all places

>> No.11557746

>>11557220
>>11557276
>>11557280
>>11557409
>drinking Constellation Brands
>ever
It's like you hate craft beer and want it to die.

>> No.11557769

>>11557746
If beer tastes good, I drink it. Simple as that

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fuck, this is excellent. very thin carbonation that's immediately bombed away by the maple and some sweet roasting that deserves itself for the later part of the drink
Lervig is really a brewery worth a quaffing eye at

>> No.11557787

>>11557781
you should try their coconuts, both regular and BA
coconut maple and vanilla, fucking mental

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Most overrated meme brewery in the world.

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>>11557787
I haven't come to this specific one yet, but I've only tried about 5-6 of them. be assured that I grab everything I can get my hands on that says the name
last one was pic related, god damn was it good. I'm preciously aging the second bottle I have
it's sad that they are usually quite expensive beers, though. I admit they are quite exceptionnal, but damn, tho

>> No.11557816

>>11557769
>If a hole feels good, I stick my dick in it. Simple as that

>> No.11557821

>>11557814
yeah coconuts is fucking great
I bought a bottle of this last week too actually
got plenty of barley aging away, fucking love it

>> No.11557823

>>11557793
Their Downtown LA location has a killer tap list and great food with dirt cheap cans to go. The four pack of Windy Hill for $13 is a steal given >>11557020

>> No.11557830

>>11557816
Sorry m8. All I care about is good beer. Not who owns the shit. It could be goat fucking terrorists for all I care.

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>>11557823

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11557849

>>11557821
the more barleys I try, the more I'm thinking only the bourbon barrel aged ones are the only ones worth. much more mouthfeel
king of bourbon barrel aged barleys I tried wasn't from Lervig, though

>> No.11557850

>>11557830
I hope you respawn in 1970's Wisconsin with only Schlitz to drink.

>> No.11557856

>>11554482
Im 21 ive been brewing beer since i was 18. Reading brewing books and formulating good recipies gave me a really good understanding of the different flavors. If you actually want to know the different flavors id recommend some reading and trying different beers.

>> No.11557857

>>11557850
I'll just go buy schells

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>>11557849
regular is good but Bourbon BA is the best, i have had lots and lots of different ones tho

for me this is the best, this or their Mash, ive got a 4 year old bottle of mash aging and 2 of these hidden

>> No.11557873

>>11557823
oh god is a $13 four pack really considered cheap in California?

>> No.11557877

>>11557860
enjoy it, man
the only beers I've been keen on aging hard were sours, because they're summer beers
I have harder times aging stouts and barleys because evey winter I drink my year stash away because bad weather and shorter days lead me to watching TV and doing nothing

>> No.11557884

>>11557873
For a hazy IPA, yeah that's like $7 below average.

>> No.11557891

>>11557877
my secret is that im a terrible hoarder and to drink them is almost a shame for me, not as much a shame as wasting them tho. just waiting for the right time

I've probs got about 600quid worth of stout and barley aging
if there are any left id reccomend the 2018 barrel aged sour rainbow project youd love it

>> No.11557897

>>11557850
Milwaukee had like 20% of all American breweries in 1970

>> No.11557904

>>11557891
I refuse to get into stouts in part because I know I'd hoard them like you say and end up sitting on thousands of dollars of beer. Sours are bad enough. IPAs work for me because you just can't keep them much longer than 60 days before they start to decline.

>> No.11557909

>>11557884
Hazy IPAs in general, or just full NEIPA?

>> No.11557923

>>11557897
And they were all garbage.

>> No.11557925

>>11557904
winter is stout season tho, barley and stouts all season

>> No.11557936

>>11557909
Quality NEIPA / juice bombs are what I call hazy IPAs and most are around that $18-22 price point. "Hazy" east-west coast hybrid IPAs can be cheaper. Modern Times Accumulated Knowledge is sold at Trader Joe's for $10 per four pack and it's a nice cross between the styles, but that's a rare exception.

>> No.11557978

>>11557891
my secret is that I'm just like you, but I don't have a lot more place to store more than 50 beers, so I do have to do regular clearance, to my even more greater shame, except when I save some by bringing them to my parents' cellar

>> No.11557987

>>11557923
well yeah. All American beer was then. I just thought it interesting to hypothetically place him in one of the few places in America at the time that had more than one brewery. Also interestingly I have heard that OG Schlitz was actually very good for a lager, but they messed with the recipe to make it cheaper to try and compete with Anheuser Busch in the 70s I think it was and then abruptly lost the confidence of their consumers and spectacularly failed by the early 80s

>> No.11557990

>>11557936
I would consider hazy IPAs to be a much broader category than NEIPA, though I would consider NEIPA to be hazy IPA

>> No.11558015

>>11557990
I just get indignant whenever I'm sold a "hazy" that is just a west coast that hasn't been filtered. Almanac, I'm looking at you. Terrible flavor and mouth feel. Almost goopy.

>> No.11558056

>>11558015
eh, I don't have any expectation of a beer being a NEIPA if it just says hazy, but I also wouldn't expect it to cost any more than a $12 six pack, but there were a lot of hazy or juicy or whatever IPAs here years before NEIPA started getting hype and before I had ever heard of a $15 four pack of IPA or even $12 for that matter

>> No.11558077

good australian east coast lagers? all I see are meme "look guys we used hops with a cool name" IPAs that all taste the same. no newtown lager, I already had that and it was nothing special.

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Do I even gotta say it? PBR™ is the best beer around and that's a fact, folks!

>> No.11558135

>>11558077

>lagers
no. although some drinkable WA ones. Feral and Mash do one each.

>> No.11558139

>>11558117
>the best beer around
Not for long lmao

>> No.11558157

>>11558135
all right cheers. if I can find them I'll give those a try.

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Trying this for the first time tonight. Tastes pretty good to me so I wanted to know what you snobs think of it so I can once again hate everything that I used to like by 4chan's standards.

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>>11558334
It's fine.

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>>11558139

Just going to have to come to canada for it soon then

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Ok, I can't stand the taste of beer but I like pic related.

Recommend me some alcoholic beverages that actually taste good so I can go to sleep tonight. Also, check my reddit spacing so you know I'm legit.

>> No.11558434

>>11558334
Stella is fine. It's a generic pale lager but people think it's shitty because the glass allows for pretty easy skunking of the beer. Same with all the Mexican beers with their clear bottles. The canned version of those beers are near perfect everytime.

>> No.11558455

>>11556742
I don't why Brut IPAs are over priced. They don't need much malt for ABV because the amalyse breaks down even 11 P wort into the 6% range, they (generally) should use neutral ale yeast which is common and cheaper than other yeasts, and the main meme part of it (amalyse) costs about $30 for a half gallon and you only need about 100 mLs for 50 BBLs. They're dirt cheap to make, with the only semi-costly part being the ludicrous amount of hops added during the final stages of hot side and dry hop. Ours is literally just two row barley with a sprinkling of pilsner malt.

t. Brewer

>> No.11558481

>>11558345
I only go to Canada for poutine and easy pussy

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I got a bottle of this for free. Genuinely surprised at how much I enjoy it. It's very tropical tasting. Like some type of island cocktail.

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>>11558455
I'd figure they'd actually be cheaper to make since they're spending less on malt. I wish breweries would stop gouging their customers with these specialty beers. Also, with regards to the amylase, why not use on lagers which benefit from being less sweet. Imperial lagers are always way too god damn sweet so it seems like this'd be perfect for that

>> No.11558602

>>11558556
Their barrel beers are all pretty good, except DKML. DKML is terrible.

>> No.11558641

>>11558602
Eh. Founders barrel aging program has been hit or miss for me. Backwoods bastard one year was perfection. The next year I bought it, it was a bourbon bomb and absolutely disgusting

>> No.11558647

>>11554482
this is actually a great idea

>> No.11558674

>>11554824
>millenial detected

new, smaller craft breweries generally like to experiment and have less consistency (and often blow ass except for a few winners they've chosen as their flagships).

Although the more established breweries may not wow you with something new, they at least will give a good representation of the style, without giving you some infected or disgusting swill.

You've got to have some sort of baseline before you can talk the talk in regard to beer styles.

As far as avoid IPAs goes, newer drinkers don't quite have the palette to judge what the hops contribute. Takes several exposures before your body can handle the bitterness.

>> No.11558683

>>11555218
Hops are an essential ingredient. What you mean is the newer trend of going extra heavy on the hops i.e. hops grown in the northwest USA. Eurofags have been using more mild hops for centuries.

>> No.11558690

>>11556147
Dope. You've got lots to choose from. Denver fag here.

>> No.11558697

>>11556333
You underestimate how many zoomers and 30yr boomers will pay for shitty, but local, beer. They love them some stripped warehouse with a few cornhole games and the "craft" environment.

>> No.11558702

>>11556614
millenial detected

>> No.11558710

>>11558571
For standard adjunct lagers, using amalyse would be fine. It's actually the norm with larger breweries. It wouldn't pair well with imperial lagers. Intense sweetness would be offset by how dry the finished beer would be, regardless of carbonation. You want residual sugars in the finished beer to add body and improve the mouthfeel. Think of a doppelbock with the carbonation and mouthfeel of root beer, it just wouldn't be good.

>>11558602
Fuck you, that was good.

>> No.11558719

>>11558702
you guessed it, I was born between 1981 and 1996, as I assume most people on /ck/ were

>> No.11558728

>>11558719
millenial is a state of mind, not an age

>> No.11558730

>>11558697
A lot of people will do that, but so many of those places exist you need good stuff to survive. I can think of very few breweries from the last five years that are not good

>> No.11558734

>>11558728
well shit, if liking hazy IPA more than West Coast IPA makes one have a millenial state of mind I will gladly agree thats that is what I have

>> No.11558736

>>11558734
desu I love hazies also

>> No.11558745

>>11558730
Agreed. If I walk into a newer brewery I usually go for their flagship before trying their experimentals

>> No.11558800

>>11558710
No way dude, shit tasted like whisky mash

>> No.11558824

>>11556394
Eventually the liver goes or the GABA bomb DT's burn them up in a quivering, hallucinating mess.

>your thread was shipped to /adv/. This is for people who have a healthy relationship with mans earliest cooking or who want to shit post about ipas.

>> No.11558837

>>11556583
Which is why the ipa haters who scream "whaaaaaaa its killing the beer market. My lazy ass cant find anything else to wash the taste of fresh jizz out of my mouth" need to try to stop drop and roll the wild fires instead of pretending they know shit about the American beer market

>> No.11558854

>>11558837
Yeah, you don't get that problem in the midwest where while there is a lot of IPA, a higher percent of them are good, and the average store, even shitty ones or restaurants have a decent variety of good styles

>> No.11558864

>tfw started day drinking again

>> No.11558875

>>11558854
Visiting california from the midwest was weird. Even our shittiest chains had better beer selection than most restaurants I went to in cali

>> No.11558891

>>11558875
I had the same experience. I was genuinely surprised at how limited the selection was at not explicitly beer centric places

>> No.11558903

>muh session ale

is there a bigger pointless beer in existence?

>> No.11558908

>>11558903
Session ales rule. Finding something you can drink on all day in the summer or on a cozy day off in the winter is nice

>> No.11558910

>>11558481
How is it any easier to get girls there?

>> No.11558922

>>11558908

it's just a lower ABV, hardly any difference to a pale

>> No.11558929

>>11558903
>>11558922
This, why not just drink pale ale all day then heavier IPA when you want to get fucked up at night?

>> No.11558940

>>11558910
Canucks are just loose like that.

>> No.11558958

>>11558922
Right, so you can gulp it down. Drinking 5+% beers will knock you on your ass, or at the very least just make you lethargic and unmotivated

>> No.11558968
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>Helping people pick out beer
>I don't like IPA's they're too bitter.
>Oh no stouts either, too much like coffee.
>Lager? The watery stuff? No thanks.
>Wheat beers are too filling anything else?
>Again browns are too much like coffee.
>Belgians taste weird.
>Pale ale? Is that like an IPA?
>Tries the IPA.
>Oh that's good I'll have that.

Why do people do this?

>> No.11558974

>>11554457
Try beers, compare them to others. Two really stick out to you? Buy them and drink them after the other and compare them. Read online descriptions of them to help yourself better understand their flavour.

>> No.11558993

>>11558968
no one does all of those things

>> No.11559002

>>11558993
You've obviously never worked at a bar.

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>"Cream" ale
>Basically just a golden ale with a lighter grain bill

What is even the fucking point to making a niche style if you're not going to do it right?

>> No.11559108

>>11559068
A lot of places near me use corn for the cream part

>> No.11559171

>>11557141
For example, wheats. There's a way that they handle the wort that isn't physically possible, at least where I'm from, because the brewing equipment isn't fitted out for it.

>> No.11559187

>>11558077
Mismatch won an award this year for a Helles style lager, but that's SA.

>> No.11559218

>>11559068
I wonder what a creamy beer would actually taste like, definitely be a weird experience.

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>>11559218
That's what milkshake IPAs with lactose are.

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Trip to the grocery. Michigan win.

>> No.11559359

living in Japan sucks for beer. the macros may be better than the equivalent american megalagers but there's no variety.

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>>11556614
Beer should taste like beer, not juice. Sorry you have the pallet of a child.

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>>11559359

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Freshly copped Alvarado Street abominations to trigger the flyover traditionalists.

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>>11559406
Bad beer. Would be better if it was a brown

>>11559359
Where in Japan do you live?

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>>11559595
Stay mad, low test coasty.

>> No.11559849

>>11559595
kettle sours are so fucking wack dude

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>>11559609
aomori

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wat chu know bout dat?

probably nuttin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_JygUgiweI&t=415s

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who here /chimay/

>> No.11560181

>>11559894
Are these supposed to be incredibly carbonated or did I just get a bad bottle?

>> No.11560241

>>11558334
one of the best macro lagers

>> No.11560316

>>11560181
Belgian beers are supposed to be highly carbed, yeah. The carbonation shouldn't taste sharp though.

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>>11559894
GRIMBERGEN GANG HERE

>> No.11561853

>>11557814

They're expensive because labor in norway is expensive as fuck. And taxes in norway on alcohol are very high and it's like a fixed amount per quantity of alcohol. No sens in making cheap stuff anyway.

This barley wine was amazing

>> No.11561884

>>11560475
I lived in France for awhile and for some reason Grimbergen was pretty much the only decent beer you could find most places. Really weird considering that it's a really mediocre Belgian.

...Nevermind. Just looked it up and they were bought out in 2008 and the stuff in France is brewed by Kronenbourg.

>> No.11562028

>>11557793
Mikkeller sd makes great beer and the euro stuff I've had has all been good as well. I'm not a fan boy but I dont steer away from it. The euros also put a shit load of effort into importing some of the best small American craft breweries and throwing it on the web shop. I dont see them memed ever. What do you not like about them?

>show us on the doll were the bad harry touched you.

>> No.11562034

thread got deleted earlier. testing for ban.

>> No.11562052

>>11561884
They're pretty good for 4€ a pack, but ya obviously there are far better Belgian beers out there. It's.just.kind of my guilty pleasure

>> No.11562764

Will I hate Triples if I don't like super bitter hops, or do the monks perform some sort of miracle on the brew?

>> No.11562954

>>11562764
Belgian beers are generally not hoppy at all. They traditionally use aged hops unlike most other styles of beer

>> No.11563063

For me it's double IPA, the best style of beer

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>Opening beer on a Monday night

>> No.11563261

>>11563130
>fur kids on board
>emoji plush
>omnipollo can
>bourbon county
yikes

>> No.11563489

>>11559171
Unless it's a trade secret that only Germans have figured out, the hardware is most likely on the market. Worst case: somebody knows how to make it.

I can't think of a specific piece of hardware necessary for Hun-flavoured-wheat. Yeast and hop choices should definitely be old world, ideally Bavarian "Banana yeast" and something light-but-definitely-earthy to counteract it, like a Hallertau. An acid rest is a fairly German move, and would probably be beneficial to control a wort designed to be a bit sweet and hazy, but it's only really necessary for a from-scratch-with-ingredients-from-my-backyard-and-water-from-my-river-in-Czech Pils. Similar results can be achieved with tweaks to water chemistry.

>> No.11563542

>>11563261
Some of us fuck females of the species and will pass our Gene's on.

>> No.11563555

>>11563542
>this is who buys BCBS

>> No.11563557

>>11562954
>>11562764
that said, if you have a serious aversion to artificial fruit or clove flavours, you may not like them. The yeasts used for trippels and quadrupels tend to leave a few aldehydes, esters and phenols behind... so a lot of banana flavours (Isoamyl Acetate, which can taste more like pear in lower concentrations), some more generally fruity notes from Ethyl Heptanoate, a bit of (4-Vinyl Guiacol) clove or nutmeg (which might actually wind up in the beer if the yeast doesn't spew phenol compounds). Sometimes green apple (Acetaldehyde) shows up, but most yeasts will clean it up enough for it to take on more of a cherry or peach note, especially with an ester-heavy yeast strain.

>> No.11563590

>>11563542
>Gene's
Good lord I hope not

>> No.11563645

>>11563542
What's that like

>> No.11563724

>>11563645
It's like finally being rid of a Hackman AND a Krupa.

>> No.11563779

>>11558334

Try some session lagers/kolschs next.

Full Sail makes a nice, consistently crisp lager. As for Kolsch, there's several: Reissdorf, Karbach Love Street, St Arnold Lawnmower (I'm Texan y'all).

One of the better normie options though.

>> No.11563786

>>11563779
>session lagers
like 95% of lagers are sessionable, do we really need a term for that?

>> No.11563787

>>11558432
North Coast Quince Cranberry Berliner-Weisse for sure. Tallgrass Raspberry Jam. Maybe even Ommegang Rosetta or Kasteel Rouge if you can handle dark stone fruit and sour notes.

Think you'll like the more mild sours out there. Or even Flemish/Flanders reds, a lot of them have sweet-tart properties that are similar to mixed drinks. Have fun!

>> No.11563810

>>11558993
trust me, i waitress at a craft beer bar. they do.

I had a couple come in, guy drinks nothing but bud light and wants a beer recommendation. offer him something like a lager or wheat, and he insists he doesn't drink "that pussy shit". So I got him a Community Mosaic while his gf had a session bock. She was having a blast chatting me up and he looked miserable chugging down the grapefruit goodness :)

>> No.11563825

>>11559218
also a sweet/milk stout. Left Hand makes a passable milk stout for 5%, Boulevard Tough Kitty is also p good.

Also recommend nitro pour beer to you, while some of the beers done in this style don't necessarily have lactose in them, they are delicious and have a nice mouthfeel to them. At my bar we do Belhaven scottish ale, NC Old rasputin, Lakewood temptress, and left hand milk stout all nitro. Give it a whirl sometime

>> No.11563835

>>11560181
belgians are bottle-conditioned. they tend to be extremely foamy upon opening, that's why most chimay, duvel glasses are shaped like candleholders. gotta let the head dissipate. unless you got a real pro pouring it; might wanna use yours for practice. For me, i get a decent pour with minimal head about 70% of the time.

>> No.11563845

>>11563786
sorry, work habit haha. but you're right, there's not a lot of lagers with high abv's. is there actually any?

>> No.11563892

>>11563845
Yessir. Especially if you count bocks (which... you should. They're lagers).

>> No.11563911

>>11563845
Tons. Most bocks and forms of bocks are higher abv

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This was pretty tasty.
Not a serious beer but good for what it is. Your girl would love it.

>> No.11564787

Someone redpill me on good hazy ipas

>> No.11564799

>>11564787
>hazy ipas
>good
Unless you live in bumfuck Vermont and have no better options don't bother.

>> No.11564917

>>11564799
I live in Pennsylvania and heard their popular, I have no idea what the buzz is about. We have plenty of choices but I've never seen hazy IPAs, unless double/imperial is the same thing and these niggers can't label consistently.

>> No.11564929

>>11564917
They basically took IPAs and turned them into something like a tropical blended girly drink by adding lactose sugar, multiple adjuncts, and holding off to last minute with the hops. If you live in PA and haven't seen them you must be deep in the boonies.

>> No.11564963

>>11564929
>doesnt know the difference between a hazy ipa and a milkshake ipa

Dumbshit

>>11564917
Hazy IPA's typically use oats or another high protein grain to bind some of the bitter compounds of the hops. The beer is not filtered and has an almost opaque look to it often compared to orange or grapefruit juice. Because of the volume of solids left in the beer and the lower apparent bitterness the beer often exhibits very fruity or earthy flavor and a soft mouth feel. The milkshake ipas the dipshit who first replied to you take this a step further and add lactose and often times fruit to the hazy ipa to further soften the mouth feel and highlight fruit flavors.

>> No.11564970

>>11564963
>i-it's exactly what you described but completely different because the real stuff doesn't add lactose!
Jesus christ, turn down the damage control a few notches, anon.

>> No.11565013

>>11564970
The only thing you got right about the normal beer is the tendency to dry hop. You really are fucking stupid arent you?

>> No.11565077

>>11564963
Doesn't sound too bad, will try them out of curiosity. Please don't be meme pricing. ;_;

>> No.11565086

>>11564929
>>11564970
Imagine being this dumb.

>> No.11565213

>>11565077
Until they catch on well, they will.

>> No.11565373

>>11554441
>DIPA
Stop. Stop with the fucking pale ales.

>> No.11565378

>>11554457
Start by drinking barley wine and barrel aged beers then spending a couple hundred dollars on a few 12 oz bottles and ruin your palate for ever.

>> No.11565384

>>11554612
They're so fucking boring. The market is stupid flooded with DIPAs and haze bombs right now and that is pretty much the only thing being brewed and pushed aside from fruit puree kettle sours

>> No.11565472

>>11554457
You're pretty fucked. Most people don't develop a taste for bitter foods until 23, if ever. You can try stuff, but I won't guarantee you'll like it until your palette matures. I drank good beer at 21, but I didn't appreciate hop forward flavors until 1. I turned 23 or so and biology happened and 2. I drank the nastiest tree bark and pine sap bitter IPA ever and expanded the phenomenal sphere of bitterness to the point that I had a proper metric for the range in between.

There's a lot of psychology and physiology that goes into taste.

>> No.11565479

>>11565472
>I didn't appreciate hop forward flavors
But those are for kids and people who don't like the actual taste of beer.

>> No.11565506

>>11565479
Meet me under the bridge and we can get some kids to do a blind taste test. I guarantee they'll go for the golden monkey over the pale ale.

>> No.11565522

>>11565506
You can't just say golden monkey against an undeclared choice of pale ale. I mean, they'd almost assuredly take the pale ale over a barrel aged strong ale.

Now, if we're talking Two Hearted though, I still have a fond place in my heart for that beer regardless of what my opinion on pale ales has become.

>> No.11565537

>>11565506
They'd probably want an omnipolo stout of kettle sour instead

>> No.11565581

I live in continental europe and I've never seen any of these american beers being imported in the beer shops I go to

can someone give me a rundown of brewdog meme's I've tried the jackhammer BrUtAl ipa or whatever it's called and the 5am saint, do I not like ipas and amber ales or are they shid

I keep hearing about how they've apparently sold out or something

also I tried some flavored brewdog clockwerk shid it was nice

>> No.11565615

>>11565581
The only brewdog beer I've tried was the Elvis Juice and that swill tasted like shit. That said, I'd be at least willing to try some of their other beers and would really like to go stay at the brewdog hotel.

>> No.11565633

>>11564780
wash that glass

>> No.11565640

>>11564780
>w/ orange zest, vanilla beans & lactose
Stop buying this shit and they'll stop brewing it.

>> No.11565642

>>11565472
Tfw drinking and enjoying beer since 13
Good times with yuengling and my father, everyone is different taste wise so it could be different for that guy.

>> No.11565662

>>11554457
>I work at a liquor store and I'm thinking of starting a beer review channel. Only problem is, I'm 21 and I have no idea what constitutes "good" vs. "shit" beer since I've only ever had light beer, ice cold with pizza or wings.
Yeah you need to experiment a lot and learn more about the processes and different styles of brewing before doing anything that would constitute a beer review YouTube.
If you're going from lagers I'd recommend going through
>lagered ales
>abbey ales (Belgians) or simple "ale on the lees"
>sours (these are more tart not sour cream)
>wheat bier (weissbier)
>session ale
From there if you want more hops you can try American Pale Ales, IPAs, double IPAs and so on as well as styles that mix in heavier hop influences with qualities of other styles like a dry hopped sour.
If you want more malt and darker flavors try some imperial porters and stouts and then get into the barrel aging for dark beers and other styles. Cognac barrel sours and red wine barrel porters are so fucking good.

>> No.11565672

>>11565662
cringe

>> No.11565764
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Happy early birthday to me.

>> No.11565770

>>11555218

I wish gruit beers would become popular. Hops are far from the most effective source of bitterness.

>> No.11565852

>>11565672
Go back to /v/ mouthbreather

>> No.11565867

>>11565770
It's about preservation. Hopped beers last longer. Not as true as it was, but I can't see the flavors in gruits I've made lasting very long in the bottle.

>> No.11565915

>>11559068
It's and old beer style from a time where beers weren't memed to oblivion.

>> No.11565981

>>11565581
Brewdog is decent, good even. Their flavor profile tend to be on the intense side which I personally like but it may not appeal to everybody. People usually dislike them for being a bit of edgelords, but the beer is nice if you ask me. Jackhammer may be on the more intense side hop-wise when fresh. I'd recommend you to try their Punk IPA plus a few from other breweries to get a broader understanding of the style.

>> No.11566001

Temporarily cut beer to save money and lose weight. Gunna treat myself over Christmas break though.

Anyone want to recommend some nice winter appropriate beers for me to try out? Spare no expense

>> No.11566059

>>11566001
Oatmeal or espresso yeti stout

>> No.11566070

>>11566059
OR surly darkness

>> No.11566076

>>11566001
A collection of baltic porters and some mulled barleywine.

>> No.11566086

>>11566076
patrician

>> No.11566138

Does anyone find beer in a can flavorless? Every beer I bought that came in a can tasted watery to me.

>> No.11566140

>>11566138
No, it's just you.

>> No.11566146

>>11566001
Honestly this. >>11566076

If nothing else, just go nuts on barleywine

>> No.11566169

>>11566138
Pour it in a glass like a civilized human?

>> No.11566185
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>>11566140
I guess pic related just sucks then. The shit tasted like a mediocre stout despite people raving about it.

>> No.11566211

>>11566146
>>11566086
I'm not even a fan of barleywine but fuck if a good, strong one with some spices doesn't fit the season and warm you up while while you wait for the death and resurrection of our lord god the sun.

>> No.11566244

>>11566185
>pastry stouts
There's your problem.

>>11566211
>I'm not even a fan of barleywine

>> No.11566271

>>11566076
What in the fuck is mulled barleywine? Spiced barleywine sounds gross. Put it in a barrel or give it some age.

>> No.11566276

>>11566271
>Put it in a barrel or give it some age
Do both

>> No.11566279

>>11566185
Dessert stouts are gross

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>>11566244
>>11566279
Pastry stouts or dessert stouts or whatever are actually pretty tasty to me, at least when they come in a glass bottle. Samoa This is one of my favorite beers. I just had a coconut hiwa porter by Maui and it was dissapointing. It has to be the cans.

>> No.11566342

>>11566316
The vessel is inert you goon. Pour it into a glass.

>> No.11566371

>>11566316
I tried that at their taphouse and thought it was disgusting

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>>11566342
Of course I did that. I also had this and found it lacking in flavor as well.
>>11566371
You lie.

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>>11566408
Then your drinking weak, flavorless beer from the can or your perceptions are clouded by a bias against the can.

>> No.11566437

>>11566408
Just different palates. I really don't like pastry stouts all that much. Overly sweet pastry bombs just aren't my thing. I tried that, their cinnamon role ale, and a couple others that other people had ordered and I had tried. It just seems like these breweries are just competing to make the sweetest pastry filled stouts with the crappiest adjuncts they possibly can.

At least it's an entry into stouts for a lot of people, so I'll at least give it that.

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Tried having a Strawberry beer just to have something different. I like them so figure the beer would be quite good.

Never again, it was so disgusting that I asked the waitress if there was something off about it and she literally said "No it just tastes awful"

>> No.11566586

>>11566519
Kettle sour or one of those shitty fruit lambics?

>> No.11566592

>>11566519
If you want a beer that’s strawberry and also still considered beer, try a lambic. At that point they’re basically spiked soda, but still good enough to get hamrod.

>> No.11566616

>>11566519
I've had a strawberry blonde that was pretty good, but the Belgian stuff is trash

>> No.11566702

>>11566592
Lambics are a hangover/stomachache in a bottle. Fuck a Lindeman's.

>> No.11566710

>>11566702
Lindeman's is sweetend. You want an actual lambic where the fruits are fermented in the beer. They're fucking amazing.

>> No.11566732

>>11566586
No idea, believe it was called a Strawberry Blonde or something and it came in a tall can.

>> No.11566752

>>11566732
Sounds gross

>> No.11566794

>>11563542
>gene's on
>gene is on
who is gene and what is he on?

>> No.11567122

>>11566710
Recommend some good lambics with distribution in the US.

>> No.11567168

>>11567122
Lindeman's Cuvée René, ironically. Also Cantillon if you can find it

>> No.11567477

>>11567122
Devil's Kriek by Double Mountain Brewery, high ABV great sourness. There are many more I saved the bottles for but I'm not at home.
Devil's Kriek is the easiest to remember most other are in weird languages I got at a liqour store I used to live by that had a fuckhuge selection.

>> No.11567570

>>11567122
Some of the best lambic style beers are American, but generally pretty expensive and limited distro. Funk Factory Guezeria and American Solera are some of the best in the world

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If it's available where you live and you like stouts, go buy this. Now.

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bourbon barrel aged stout with lemon balm and strawberries (a collaboration between CA and brewski)

its certainly interesting, all the flavours are there as well some strong chocolate notes but its unlike anything ive had before.

>> No.11567648

Yeungling and Rolling Rock is where it's at.

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bourbon barrel aged stout with lemon balm and strawberries (a collaboration between CA and brewski)

its certainly interesting, all the flavours are there as well some strong chocolate notes but its unlike anything ive had before.

>> No.11567662

>>11567648
I almost feel sorry for least coasters sometimes. Almost.

>> No.11567717

>>11567662
Enjoy being on fire, I guess.

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New thread:
>>11554441
>>11567721

>> No.11567982

>>11567122
Look for the 3 on the bottle
>>11559357

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>>11554457
>How do I make this work

>> No.11568545

>>11566185
I've never had anything from Bruery in a can.

>> No.11568749

>>11565764
Aside from what I see on top, what did you get?