/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.11525186]

Why is food so expensive in America?

[Anonymous No.11525197]

>>11525186
It's only expensive in shitty coastal cities and states really

[Anonymous No.11525207]

>>11525186
Only the poor and wasteful complain about food prices. You've identified yourself.

[Anonymous No.11525215]

>>11525186
That person is retarded. 100 dollars for two people is bullshit.

[Anonymous No.11525289]

>>11525186
>buying wine with a fucking burger
>almost $100 with tip for 2
Nice

[Anonymous No.11525295]

>>11525186
What the absolute fuck are they eating to have a burger and some wine cost 100 dollars? Some fucking truffle burger?
Whoa guys, novel concept, if you buy stupidly expensive food its going to be stupidly expensive.

[Anonymous No.11525298]

>>11525186
>NYC
People who live there genuinely don’t realize thry’re paying double or triple what everyone else pays for food. It’s hilarious. Even shitty LA has more regular priced food.

[Anonymous No.11525299]

>>11525186
>NYC
Did they eat in Times Square or something wtf???

[Anonymous No.11525302]

>>11525215
>100 dollars for two people is bullshit.
Such is the power of Jew York

[Anonymous No.11525303]

>buying a bottle of $80 wine with a fucking burger
nuke jewyork

[Anonymous No.11525306]

>a burger with some wine

Literally impossible that these people aren't cunts.

[Anonymous No.11525387]

>>11525215
you forgot to count Chicago's 9% amusement tax

[Anonymous No.11525429]

>>11525186
Just saying "a burger with wine" is meaningless because both can be expensive and overpriced. You can find good burgers for under $10 almost anywhere in the USA. Some places scam you by saying they use Kobe beef for their burger with truffle aioli, and put a little Parmesan cheese on the fries so now they can charge you $30 for the meal. I've even seen some places selling a regular burger for $15 and it doesn't even come with fries, but there are places within 5 miles that'll serve you basically the same thing for almost half the price.

It's only expensive if you don't actually look for restaurants that aren't just trying to overcharge you.

[Anonymous No.11525540]

Burgers: $30 ($15 each)
Bottle of wine: $50
Tip (25%): $20
Doesn't seem that crazy

[Anonymous No.11525576]

>>11525540
>Bottle of wine: $50
Maybe don't buy an entire bottle of expensive wine every time you go out to eat

[Anonymous No.11525593]

>go to local Mexican restaurant
>two loaded plates are 20 bucks
how retarded is that person

[Anonymous No.11525603]

>>11525576
Depending on where you go and if you get drinks at dinner, it can be about the same. Restaurants make most of their profit on alcohol sales.

[Anonymous No.11525612]

>>11525302
>>11525303
I live in NYC. If I want to go out to dinner for two I can easily spend $100-$300+. But I can just as easily get a great dinner for two for $30-$50 at a place without a wine list. Less than that at some places. There are plenty of places where I can get a great meal for what the rest of the country pays to eat at chain places. For fast food prices I can get falafel, Indian food or tacos. There's great stuff at every price point.

But yeah, most places with a wine list will cost at least a c-note for dinner for two, because a bottle of wine will cost you one third to one half of that in a restaurant. It's not that the prices here are insane, it's that the markup on a bottle of wine is about four times the wholesale pice in most restaurants. If you don't like that don't order wine.

[Anonymous No.11525615]

>>11525186
>NYC
there's your problem
cost of living varies so much in the US, mainly just because of the sheer size of the country
The Northeast and most of the west coast is insanely expensive to live in compared to parts of Mississippi or Dakotas where per capita income is basically tied with most third-world failed states

[Anonymous No.11525634]

This person is retarded. I live in Vancouver, literally one of the most expensive cities in the world and me and my gf don't even come close to 100$ for a dinner. Usually 15-20$ per meal and if we want wine we just pick up a bottle on the way home. Most dinners for two are only 40-50$ after tip. If you can't afford that you're poor as shit and need to move.

[Anonymous No.11525651]

>>11525186
>price with tip
>not the same as price without tip
now there's this guys problem right there

[Anonymous No.11525665]

>>11525215
$100 dollars for a very nice meal isn't bullshit. $100 dollars for a couple of burgers and some wine however is. Where the fuck does that person live? Oh, NYC. Makes sense than.

[Anonymous No.11525709]

>>11525186
>burger meal only costing $100
plebish burgers

[Anonymous No.11525769]

>>11525186
>>11525186

The United States is big. The travel distance between farm and table is why the US farming/food industry looks the way it does. The transportation necessities incentivize certain types of farming and certain types of materials. Science, innovative supply chains and economies of scale is why you can get chicken at .89 a pound which will taste chicken-y and is mostly guaranteed not to kill you if you cook it properly. It is also why if you want quality chicken you might be paying 4.99 a pound, unless you're really lucky with geographic situation.

Wine? That bottle that you can pick up for $5 in a random store in France will run you $20 retail, because it has to be found by an importer/exporter, it has to be shipped across an ocean (with all the dead weight of the glass), go through a distributor, and finally get bought by a retailer. There's a lot more people, and each one of them needs to get paid. In coastal cities you have more access to rarer imports because there's a greater concentration potential consumers, but everything across the board is more expensive because duh cost of labor, land, transport.

Nobody is making a killing. Same as why drug dealers are usually broke, even if you are paying 20 bucks a dime-bag for your stepped-on seeds and stems.

[Anonymous No.11525816]

>>11525186
>Why is food so expensive in America?

Because there's about 30 million illegal aliens competing for the same low cost housing, jobs, and food in our major cities, and when demand is higher, prices go up.

[Anonymous No.11525841]

>>11525186
That pic is full of shit. America is probably one of the cheapest countries in terms of food when it comes to the highly developed countries.

If you think America is expensive, try coming over here to Straya. You'd kill yourself.

[Anonymous No.11525842]

>>11525816

Those fucking illegals, living ten to a shithole apartment and working for five bucks an hour under the table. Really driving up costs for the rest of us, amirite?

[Anonymous No.11525865]

>Yeah I’ll take your double bacon cheeseburger and your finest Pinot Noir by the glass
These guys must be hambeasts that happened to come into some money, decided to become classy, but had no idea how to do it

[Anonymous No.11525871]

>>11525842
They get free housing and shit from advocacy groups and sanctuary cities

[Anonymous No.11525896]

>>11525842
>I don't understand supply / demand economics but I'll post anyway because the thought of requiring foreigners to comply with immigration laws hurts my feelings

[Anonymous No.11525903]

>>11525186
are there actually any places where eating out once a week or more is the norm? sounds like a massive waste of money to me

[Anonymous No.11525912]

>>11525903
My parents cooked maybe 2-3 times a week growing up. The rest of the nights we ate out (no, not at fast food or chain restaurants).

[Anonymous No.11525917]

>>11525903
Lots of people I know do it here, Silicon Valley.

[Anonymous No.11525948]

>>11525816
>juan picks the vegetable for 50 cents an houre
>juan cooks the meal for $2 an hour
>anon skipped basic economics, thinks this makes food more expensive

anon, it's angrily documented by everyone, no matter what their politics - chuds like you mad because we still do farm subsidies along with it and sometimes markets make donations to the 'undeserving', the rest of us mad that the subsidies mandate it and the donations are carefully limited with 99% of overpurchase going straight in the trash - that the us produces enough excess food to solve world hunger singlehandedly and then straight-up plows it back under because doing so would take effort rather than being free profit. look at the mountains of soybeans rotting in under tarps in the midwest right now and ask yourself why tofu's gone up 50 cents this year and natto, the perfect breakfast food, is still only available at specialty markets.

and that scale of habitual waste is why food in the us is so expensive. the supermarket and the asian market in your neighborhood will both order the same pallet of onions from the same grower at the same time; the supermarket will make someone hunch over it at minimum wage pulling every gouged one out and throwing it away, call that "quality", and mark it up from 50 cents a pound to $1.75 a pound.

there's also a strong press to move from concrete measures of actual quality to branding that implies quality in order to nickel-and-dime you. like how you used to be able to pay a couple bucks extra for beef and get Choice which was actually inspected by a butcher and separated as being of notably higher quality, but now you pay a couple bucks extra for "angus" which could well be school lunch/prison grade because you're only buying better odds in the fucking meat gacha.

[Anonymous No.11525999]

>>11525816
Illegals and migrants working slaughterhouses, harvesting fruits and vegetables is one of the reasons food is as cheap as it is, tard. And no, Billy Bob and Sally Sue aren't chomping at the bit to do those jobs no matter what they pay. Get your head out of your ass and stop following the manufactured hysteria of le orange and his sycophants.

[Anonymous No.11526015]

>>11525903
>thinks majority of working people in their 20's actually know how to cook for themselves
Nope.

[Anonymous No.11526029]

>>11525948
>I'll just completely ignore the reality of supply/demand economics again and double down on my hurt feelings
Not reading any of your crybaby shit.

We're done.

[Anonymous No.11526044]

>>11525999
>Illegals and migrants working slaughterhouses, harvesting fruits and vegetables is one of the reasons food is as cheap as it is, tard
Bullshit.

Chinese and S. American shit is the same price and it's shipped thousands of miles before it even enters the nation.

Food is cheap because of the surplus we grow, and the only reason we can grow a surplus is because we subsidize farmers to keep them working rather than let the industry die out to cheap foreign workers.

[Anonymous No.11526067]

>>11525903
it's only a waste of money in the suburban and rural US, because of the fucked-up way the US assumes you've got several thousand dollars of cooking equipment, stock several hundred dollars of ingredients, and have a $10k+ vehicle which drives on roads which bring your taxes up more than the price of a train pass anywhere civilized. which makes eating out a luxury that gets charged extra for.

when i've lived in new york or la, to say nothing of tokyo, it was entirely possible and expected to pay $3-$5 for lunch and $5-$8 for dinner prepared, which is around what i'd be paying self-prepped if i didn't spend a few hours a week hunting sales, except now i also need to pay for the fridge, and the oven, and the power to run them, etc etc etc.

[Anonymous No.11526082]

>>11526029
don't worry, when mom kicks you out and you go to community college you'll eventually take econ102. and then you'll either learn or flunk out of that and have to go pick veggies with juan so i get cheaper meals. :^)

[Anonymous No.11526136]

>>11526082
I own my home, my car, and work on my terms. I'm well aware of the economics involved.

You? Not so much.

[Anonymous No.11526141]

>>11526067
>possible and expected to pay $3-$5 for lunch and $5-$8 for dinner
It's entirely "possible" to eat free in large cities every single day due to charity, or the free food specials at places trying to sell you alcohol to make up for the loss.

[Anonymous No.11526154]

>>11526029
Unless your supplies are homegrown the market is guaranteed to exploit the workers and underpay everyone below managementwill. Not shill at all

[Anonymous No.11526158]

>>11526141
you really are braindead and illiterate, aren't you
enjoy your fentanyl overdose in five years

[Anonymous No.11526168]

Because Amerisharts will bend over and take it. They wouldn't dare defy their corporate overlords.

[Anonymous No.11526210]

>>11526154
>market is guaranteed to exploit the workers
Nope.

The market is guaranteed to try and exploit the politicians that allow them to exploit the workers, but we, the citizens, must ensure they're doing their jobs.

Funny how the assholes that defend using foreign labor to undercut their own national labor never seem to feel the same way about cost cutting measures in other areas, like material safety, building safety, or food safety.

[Anonymous No.11526219]

>>11526168
>some yuropedan think's they're hard and not a bunch of pussy sheep
Fuck off, pussy. You faggots can barely even own a gun, and your nation will lock you up for hurting somebodies feelings on the internet.

[Anonymous No.11526241]

>>11525186
Illegals working for 3 dollars less than minimum wage have all been deported by ICE. That's why restaurant food price have risen much faster than inflation, commercial real estate rent, or food ingredient price.

[Anonymous No.11526352]

>>11525593
Go to mickeyD's, get 2 mcdoubles and 2 giant-ass sodas - $4 and change.

[Anonymous No.11526373]

>>11525387
its a fucking sales tax that applies for services and not only physical products, and you guys are tearing your pants over it

europe has a 17-27% VAT on eating out in every single one state

[Anonymous No.11526455]

>>11525298
most do, since most that eat at yuppie establishments are transplants. they like to "complain" about prices, but it's almost boastful.

I can see both sides of it though. living in a big city certainly has its advantages. if you're a social person that makes a decent amount of money, it can definitely be worth it.

[Anonymous No.11526476]

>>11525186
Cheesecake Factory
soft drinks $2.50
milk shake $8.95
appetizers $12-$16
salads $12-$20
burger $12-$18
sandwichs $15-$18
Entrees $16-$30
Steaks $23-$40
cheesecake slice $10
I don't drink anymore, so I can't speak to that, and it's not listed on the website.
It all adds up, then tax and tip, you're close to $100 for a nice dinner date

[Anonymous No.11526477]

>>11526219
>praising Jacob Rees-Mogg
It's not nice to bully the mentally ill

[Anonymous No.11526491]

>>11526044
>be cuntservitard politician
>subsidize a handful of megacorporations producing pig slop that endangers the health and welfare of citizens whose health problems caused by such pig slop line the pockets of the mega pharma/medico corporations both of which funnel profits back into my campaign coffers
>convince mouthbreathers that to do otherwise is muh atheist gombunism
Profit!

[Anonymous No.11526492]

>>11525912
>>11525917
>>11526067
thanks for the feedback, kind of makes me wish I lived in a place where it was economically feasible to just buy stuff whenever I didn't feel like cooking

[Anonymous No.11526497]

>>11526491
>>be politician
ftfy angry little child

[Anonymous No.11526508]

>>11526219
Shut the fuck up dumb cunt I'm American and can guarantee I own more guns than you. You're some fat faggot manlet boomer wasting his money at Applebees with your fat ass wife.

>millenials are killing muh restaurant industry

[Anonymous No.11526583]

>>11526508
You seem upset, sunshine. Maybe you should take a break?

[Anonymous No.11526624]

>>11525186

I can get a homemade burger at the local mom & pops place for $6. No wine though, because who TF drinks goddamn wine with a burger? Drink Coke or go back to your hipster shoebox.

[Anonymous No.11526660]

>>11526508
No, their enriching our culture with independant cooking faculties and festivals it's about expanding our culture

[Anonymous No.11526682]

>>11526508
Christ, take some fetanyl or heroin and calm down Cletus before you go on a shooting spree.

[Anonymous No.11526707]

>>11526497
Umm, the red states produce the majority of pig slop food commodities, so no, it's not the progressives.

[Anonymous No.11526722]

>>11525186
Jesus Christ imagine being so fucking stuck up that you cant lower yourself below a $100 burg and wine combo without making the statement that you cant eat out anymore. I'm all in favor of households cooking more and supporting their local markets and supermarkets, but fuck me this reeks of entitled elitist filth. I honestly want to see areas like NYC experience a foot shortage / war conditions involving rationing just to see how many stupid boomers and entitled millenial scumbags starve to death because they cant order gold and truffle dusted dry aged wagyu burgers for their midday snack.

[Anonymous No.11526769]

>>11526707
>using political memes like "red state" that they want you to
>being so brainwashed at such an early age
Think for yourself, little guy.

[Anonymous No.11526775]

>>11526722
>just to see how many stupid boomers and entitled millenial scumbags starve to death
They'll just flock to where YOU live and eat YOUR food.....all the while maintaining the same brainwashed mentality.

[Anonymous No.11526802]

>>11526722
when the food shortage comes, the people eating $100 burgers will be perfectly fine (barring shortsightedly fucking it up for themselves) because they control the ports. the people working for them will be mostly fine because they've already stripped urban workforces in the US down to the bare minimum neccessary to continue functioning, and because when the owners inevitably fuck it up for themselves and shit really hits the fan the guillotines will come out.

the dumb assholes who grow only corn are gonna roll in the mud with pot bellies and shriveled limbs as flies swarm on them in anticipation of a meal. entire flyover states will starve within weeks surrounded by their local monoculture without the trucks and trains owned by coasties, which run on the fuel imported through the coasts, doing very specific reshuffles of their produce as planned by logistics centers on the coasts and communicated through coastal telecoms hubs.

but go on, crow about how tasty your Texan ass will find cotton and the cattle you emergency slaughter day 1 for lack of feed, while we're living off the same Californian produce and South American beef and Vietnamese fish we do now.

[Anonymous No.11526818]

>>11525186
>Why is food so expensive in America?
Should be
>Why are restaurants in NYC so expensive?
Euros showing, once again, how literally retarded they are.

[Anonymous No.11526870]

>>11526802
This is true.
>inb4 b-but in west jeebusville we have unlimited supplies of wild game
Nope. During the depression in the 30's, a comparatively minor economic catastrophe wild game was hunted to virtual extinction in many areas of flyoverville.
>b-but we be gardeners 'n shite
Nope. You won't have access to seed and since only a tiny percent of flyovers even garden, let alone save non-GMO, non-hybrid seeds they can replant, most flyovers will starve. And you better think twice before you raid my garden or try to access my well because you'll end up as fertilizer for my garden ;)

[Anonymous No.11526954]

>>11526802
>Entitled idiots and trust fund babies armed with social science and modern art degrees are more likely to survive emergency conditions than people who have actually learned a trade or profession that could be productive in wartimes or survival tier conditions
You're mistaking the ultra rich with that worthless upper middle to mcmansion wealth tier subpopulation that only seems to exist around metro suburbia. Newsflash, anon - the ultra wealthy dont give two fucks about restaurant value.

[Anonymous No.11526965]

>>11526870
>flyovers
Do a lot of flying, do you sweet cheeks?

[Anonymous No.11526983]

>>11526954
>have actually learned a trade or profession that could be productive in wartimes or survival tier conditions
First, "shitting your pants and screaming about soy NPCs on 4chan" is neither a "trade" nor a "profession", second...

[Anonymous No.11527047]

>>11526965
Keep going to your bi-weekly paintball course to practice muh survival wargame tactics while I'm working in my self sustaining 2 acre garden using my own resources to build the soil and developing pest control methods w/o chemicals while also practicing food preservation techniques of both vegetables and meat. You'll starve, and I'll survive.

[Anonymous No.11527059]

>>11527047
>paintball
If you only knew what the fuck I did for a living.

Regardless, I support and applaud your growing efforts, as I grow too, and think everyone should.

[Anonymous No.11527075]

>>11526954
Oh look it's the "everyone in flyover states knows how to live off the land" meme again.

[Anonymous No.11527125]

>>11525186
America needs to get rid of tip culture.
>but muh food prices will go up
Japan has cheaper food, better service and they'll refuse your tips. Truly America is 3rd world.

[Anonymous No.11527236]

>not taking your date out for a mcchicken with a bottle of MD20/20

This is why you're getting robbed out of 100$ instead of 10$

[Anonymous No.11527249]

>>11526954
The second-to-last collapse condition we had in the western world led to a thousand or so years of hereditary rule for liberal arts majors--'liberal arts', the term, comes from their status as the tutelage of free men.

It turns out starting out rich, well-connected, and with a firm understanding of The Better Days makes you the new nobility and church hierarchy, while being a talented smallhold farmer makes you starve or accept serfdom and being a strong fighter makes you the first to get conscripted and die in the old order's last grasps at resources.

Not to mention, if we're talking survival skills, mr. "i take the barrel from Monsanto and place it on the back of my $100k tractor, i am pro farmer" will be eaten alive (probably literally) by the urban homeless.

[Anonymous No.11527256]

>>11525841
Yeah, but you guys have like a $19 minimum wage, so at least you have that going for you.

But for sure, it's pretty cheap to eat here. Of course, you can force every meal to cost a ton, but I think that's more of a status thing than anything else. I mean, I've dropped $250 at a dive bar before in a night, whereas I could have gotten just as drunk for $30 bux.

[Anonymous No.11527281]

I rarely go out to eat so that when I do, I feel like I can spend money on myself and get the whole drinks with appetizers, wine with dinner, coffee with dessert etc
I've spent over $100 on dinner for two at a place where I got a 50% discount (I worked there). It's easy when you don't count Denny's or McDonald's as "restaurants."

[Anonymous No.11527296]

>>11527256
they are also taxed just as high as their wages.
>you're still making 14 dollars an hour cunt wait forgot the petrol and help the abbo tax, 12 dollerydoos an hour is great. what do you mean we only paid you 10? you don't need more than 8.25. now excuse me we have to sell land to the chinese

[Anonymous No.11527362]

>>11525903
In Florida people(boomers) seemingly eat out for most meals.

[Anonymous No.11528283]

>>11526476
Only a huge fat fuck would order all that. Even if it is two people.

[Anonymous No.11528317]

>>11525186
>$10 for less McDonalds-tier food in Iceland than what $3 gets at actual McDonalds.
Uh ok eurotrash

[Anonymous No.11528320]

>>11526802
Texas has ports you know

>barring shortsightedly fucking it up for themselves
That's a given

[Anonymous No.11528429]

>>11526476
Who would eat this much on a date?

[Anonymous No.11528448]

>>11528320
>Let's import starving flyover trash into the best state
Fuck off we're full

[Anonymous No.11528528]

>>11525215
did you know the average price of 1 egg, 2 strips of bacon, 1 piece of toast, and black coffee in San Jose is $21 before tip?

[Anonymous No.11528541]

>>11528528
Not at ihop.

[Anonymous No.11528570]

>>11525298
>People who live there genuinely don’t realize thry’re paying double or triple what everyone else pays for food
Ever lived in Alaska? The only thing is that the residents here get paid so they don't notice the obscene prices

[Anonymous No.11528733]

>>11525186
The real meme is restaurant alcohol. If they just bought alcohol from the store they'd save 80% of their money.
>$31,200 dollars spent annually on just overpriced burgers and wine
That's twice as much as I make per year.

[Anonymous No.11528767]

When I used to have a gf she always begged me to "go out" and get Indian food. Was the worst part of having a gf. I won't settle for non-frugal gf next time, who is happy with home cooked meals (made together very likely) and torrented films

[Anonymous No.11528788]

>>11526044
> let the industry die out to cheap foreign workers.
What

[Anonymous No.11528802]

>>11525215
Pizza and beer for the evening at my favorite place (not high or low end) usually runs me about $40-50. This is in the Bay Area, there's hundreds of burger places charging $15-20 per sandwich (sides extra).

[Anonymous No.11528819]

>>11528802
Pizza in mountain view is like $20, is beer that expensive?

[Anonymous No.11528833]

>>11528819
$6-8 per beer, pizza $11 for the half I eat. $40-50 is with tax and tip. To be fair- this place is quality enough that I consider it a treat, but I figure the OP image is in that context too.

[Anonymous No.11528843]

>>11528833
Shit I'd get it to go and buy my own beer.
What pizza place? I wish there was more good pizza here.

[Anonymous No.11528853]

Restaurants have always been expensive, food at the grocery store is (usually, depending on location) not

What amazes me is how people still manage to eat so much fast food when they're paying $6-11 every time they eat there. I can't believe that idea that poor people are fat because they have to eat fast food, what a crock of shit.

[Anonymous No.11528859]

>>11525186
Shut the fuck up retard, food is VERY expensive in Australia and Canada and extremely cheap in America.

[Anonymous No.11528861]

>>11528843
Oh definitely, but if we're comparing eating out prices then it is what it is. A lot cheaper if you don't drink. This is Jupiter in Berkeley, same owners as Drake and Triple Rock- I like it for the atmosphere and service, as well as the food.
No good pizza in MV? Food culture is weird in the Bay, I live in Hayward now and the few Asian restaurants around are all terrible.

[Anonymous No.11528867]

>>11528843
forgot pizza

[Anonymous No.11528868]

>>11525948
Hahaha the faggot wrote an essay and get so pissed off he had to use the gay word his little podcast taught him

Go back to ribbit you dumb nigger lover

[Anonymous No.11528870]

>>11525186
>A burger with some wine can be almost $100

??????????????????????????????

[Anonymous No.11528876]

>>11528861
>No good pizza in MV?
Some okay places that are neapolitan/wood fire style if you know what I mean, I want some new york pizza sometimes.

[Anonymous No.11528883]

>>11527075
Nice try! Unfortunately you cant fucking read because I didn't say that. Also not a flyover or defending them, but since you seem to be getting defensive about liberal arts majors maybe you should have picked a non fucking useless degree you social parasite.

[Anonymous No.11528888]

>>11527249
>today's liberal arts regards are the same as refined statesmen a thousand years ago
What the fuck am I reading?

[Anonymous No.11528891]

>>11525186
A burger shouldn't be more than $7 for the best damn burger. MAYBE $10 if you're getting gouged.

[Anonymous No.11528973]

>>11525186
>with wine
$20+ alone

[Anonymous No.11529014]

>>11526067
>have a $10k+ vehicle which drives on roads which bring your taxes up more than the price of a train pass anywhere civilized.

You are paying for the luxury of absolute freedom. People purchase vehicles because no one wants to ride around with homeless, crazy black people

[Anonymous No.11529432]

>>11528802
>>11528819
>>11528861
>>11528876
Honestly fucking cost of shit here in south bay is why I don’t go out to eat much.

[Anonymous No.11529445]

>>11525540
>25% tip
Are you trying to troll me you got dang troller

[Anonymous No.11529648]

>>11525816
This, and we should the world’s burden of international aid, defense, and research. Just look at that shit happening with the border. If you can seriously tell me the US needs millions of illiterate vermin or that they have some right to our wealth you are fucked in the head

[Anonymous No.11529654]

>>11525842
Yea it is, they are a criminal people who clog up our justice system and waste billions of dollars and countless man hours so they can spread subpar genes and that shitty faux rap

[Anonymous No.11529685]

>>11525540
Two takeout burgers from your favorite decent-ass local burgeria: $25 (~$10 each with extra toppings)
Pint of bourbon: $20
Birth control: $0.50 (conservatively; you can get generics for ~$10 a month) or $0 if you're gay like OP
Gee whiz, a nicer night in for less than half the price

[Anonymous No.11529755]

>>11525298
Food in NYC is very cheap though, just avoid the tourist shit and the "fine dining" traps.
Coffee and bacon, egg and cheese bagel at any deli or street stall: $3.50
Chinese take-out meal (let's say beef and broccoli, rice, drink): $6
Large slice of pizza: $3
Steak and frites at a nice restaurant in Brooklyn: $15-$19
Mussels and frites at same: $12
Seafood is generally pretty cheap and high quality.
There's tons of choice in general and if you're willing to get ethnic, the value can be really high.

[Anonymous No.11529788]

>>11525615
ahem

[Anonymous No.11529790]

>>11526082
>Illegals are good for the economy because CNN told me so
>Illegals are not taking jobs or opportunity away for native citizens
Whoever comes after Trump is going to be /ourguy/ too and he will be more right wing, people like you will be lined up against a wall and shot

[Anonymous No.11529805]

>>11526476
So you have a soft drink and a milkshake? Does that pair with the steak course, the entree, or the burger course?

[Anonymous No.11529810]

>>11525615
>>11529788

[Anonymous No.11529821]

>>11529790
>American citizens aren't having enough kids to replace the workforce
That's the reason immigrants are good for the economy. They fill in the holes white people left by loving themselves more than their country and choosing to travel instead of having kids.
White people did this to themselves.

[Anonymous No.11529828]

>>11525603
The italian place I used to work at got its house wine for $6/bottle and sold it for $6/glass and $27/bottle

[Anonymous No.11529846]

>>11529821
It's not about replacing the workforce; it's about keeping wages down.

[Anonymous No.11529849]

>>11529821
>America is solely white people
Why is it whenever people talk about illegal immigrants leftists bring race into the equation this isn't a race thing it's citizen against non-citizen

[Anonymous No.11529854]

>>11529846
No, it's about race. It's always about race. How am I supposed to understand it if it's not about race?

[Anonymous No.11529860]

>>11529828
That's pretty common knowledge that a glass of wine at a restaurant pays for the bottle it's economics so the restaurant can make back it's money as soon as the bottle is opened. Usually restaurants buy bulk of house to lower the cost per bottle than a liquor store but for higher end bottles that's not the case

[Anonymous No.11529899]

>>11529685
And then you go to your favorite parkinglot and fuck in the back of her dads Buick right?
Or did you make it all the way back to your trailer.

[Anonymous No.11529918]

>>11529849
Dude, you're responding to a rightwing nutbag not a leftist. They're the ones running around like Chicken Little screaming about whites not spawning.

[Anonymous No.11529956]

>>11529899
We're all around you and you'll never notice ;-)

[Anonymous No.11530060]

>>11529849
Of course it's about race. If a bunch of Norwegians were coming over by the boatloads I would welcome them.

[Anonymous No.11530079]

Because we can afford it? Hell, even the poorest of our minorities and "disadvantaged" are generally well fed and obese.

[Anonymous No.11530093]

>>11530060
Yeah, when they were recently offered that by potus, they laughed in his face and said, "thx, but no thx," lol!

[Anonymous No.11530110]

>>11528528
RENT
E
N
T

America lets rampant property speculation get shit all outta whack and it affects everything

[Anonymous No.11530111]

>>11525186
>>11525197
I live in California bay area (East Bay)
Chinese food lunch combo is $8
Popeyes Chicken two piece Tuesday is $2.25
McDonald's has the 1 2 3 value menu
A 12 pack of soda is $6 ($4 if you buy from grocery outlet)

I don't know how bad the situation in NYC is if the guy needs to spend 100 on a couple of burgers and wine, maybe he just bullshitting or eating at some fancy shmancy ristorante

[Anonymous No.11530115]

>>11530079
>Hell, even the poorest of our minorities and "disadvantaged" are generally well fed and obese.

Thanks Obama!

[Anonymous No.11530127]

>>11528802
>>11528819
>>11529432
Are you guys ever getting any "operating fees" or whatever at some places? The taco bell over here has the $5 box sold for 5.99 plus that fucking fee, and I only seem to get it if I order the box. Luckily I haven't seen it at anywhere else, even other taco bells don't have it.

[Anonymous No.11530143]

>>11530115
There haven't been any significant changes to social security since the 90s. We've also gained almost a hundred million people in the past thirty years. Your graphs don't mean anything other than Americans are getting poorer and boomers are retiring en masse. Should've invested in some pie charts maybe.

[Anonymous No.11530253]

>>11525207
>spending little
>wasteful
You're out of your mind.

[Anonymous No.11530270]

>>11530115

It's ok. You still have, maybe, 20 years before shit hits the fan. Hopefully, we'll all be dead before then.

[Anonymous No.11530273]

>>11529821
>We need more debt slaves
>>11530110
Free money will do that aka "quantitative easing" but that's been a worldwide policy for the last decade.

[Anonymous No.11530280]

>>11530270
They've already spent the SS money. You're just paying for boomers right now, they'll be nothing left. 30% of pensions are at risk of collapse. NYC has 70 billion or so in unfunded benefits.

[Anonymous No.11530286]

>>11530270
> that time when interest payments alone are more than national revenues

Millenials are just realizing that they'll eventually be the ones paying for all these entitlements they keep voting for. lol

[Anonymous No.11530330]

>>11530270
Good thing we're going to have a full scale war with China before then and wipe all that debt clean.

[Anonymous No.11530358]

>>11525186
food is incredibly cheap here. its the labor and location that is expensive

[Anonymous No.11530373]

I often wonder why everyone's so obsessed with money in general, and on this website in particular. I mean it's not like you can't afford 99.9% of all food out there on a daily basis. Everyone's so obsessed with getting a good deal, instead of eating something delicious.

[Anonymous No.11530379]

>>11526722
>I honestly want to see areas like NYC experience a foot shortage / war conditions involving rationing just to see how many stupid boomers and entitled millenial scumbags starve to death because they cant order gold and truffle dusted dry aged wagyu burgers for their midday snack.
Someone sounds jealous.Go back to your Costco pizza.

[Anonymous No.11530388]

>>11530115
Trump's running a 2 trillion dollar deficit this year, more than twice what Obama ran his last year. Orange's solution? He told his aides, "Let's just print more money like Venezuela did," lol!.

[Anonymous No.11530395]

>>11530273
QE didn't grow silicon valley it is just expensive due to geographics and the fact that talent concentrated there. sorry the baristas feel left out but QE did not put themin that position

[Anonymous No.11530426]

>>11529755
This. Just because NYC has a lot of very expensive restaurants doesn't mean there aren't lots of reasonably priced ones as well. A lot of them went under ten years ago when the recession put the squeeze on the middle class, and they stopped dining out as often as they used to. But there are still plenty of mid priced options. If you insist on having French, Italian or Spanish with a glass of wine things will get expensive pretty quickly. But if you're interested in the cuisines of more recent immigrant groups you can eat very well for what folks in the country spend at Cracker Barrel.

[Anonymous No.11530438]

>>11528528
Literally fucking where? Add a main dish to it (steak, burger, etc) and tip 20%, you might be close.
>t. Fremont fag

[Anonymous No.11530590]

>>11529788
GDP per capita is a dumb metric to use when most of the GDP is going to the companies drilling oil. The median household income for North Dakota is barely above average and South Dakota is well below average.

Source: https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_17_1YR_S1901&prodType=table#none

[Anonymous No.11530700]

>>11525186
>Why is food so expensive in New York City?

FTFY

Hereabouts in metro Detroit, we've got every kinda restaurant you can imagine and the prices are cheep to reasonable.

[Anonymous No.11531425]

>>11525215

Never come to Miami.

[Anonymous No.11531475]

>>11528883
I'm not getting defensive about anything dumb faggot. I work in oil here in Texas and am doing just fine. I'm just not some delusional /pol/shill that genuinely believes mouth breathing trailer park trash in bum fuck nowhere America will be able to survive a societal collapse.

They're already killing themselves in droves because they can't find work now imagine that x100.

[Anonymous No.11531494]

>>11528570
Alaska wages are fairly high compared to everywhere else. DOL actually has a separate poverty line just for Alaska and Hawaii, it's a couple thousand dollars higher than anywhere else.
What do you mean by "get paid"? If you mean the PFD it's a fucking joke, even a full $2000 wouldn't cover the cost of living increases you get here.

[Anonymous No.11531499]

>>11525903
I go to the chinky every week and is 20 yankeeroos for a good soup and tofu.

[Anonymous No.11531511]

>>11528788
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_subsidy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agricultural_policy_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food,_Conservation,_and_Energy_Act_of_2008
tl;dr we've been propping up our farm industry for some 80 years to keep it from collapsing in on itself, both from inward pressure and now from cheap import food

[Anonymous No.11531665]

>>11531511
We actually have excellent agricultural infrastructure plenty of good land for diversification into other cash crops for export but after all this time nobody's willing to drop the Depression-era market meddling and the let the market correct itself. We could do with plenty of other crops what we do with soybeans on the world market.

[Argie No.11531680]

>>11526373
Japan had no tipping.

[Anonymous No.11531681]

>>11525769
how the hell do you step on weed? Seems like you'd lose customers mixing in other shit.

[Anonymous No.11531686]

>>11525842
Yeah, almost like all that work they do would have to be done at a fair wage paid to actual citizens who pay taxes, don't get welfare and food stamps and don't have five or six kids getting free public education and mostly free healthcare, imagine that.

[Anonymous No.11531720]

>>11526769
If he thought for himself, ever in his life, he'd probably just do us all a favor and kill himself. Since he can't do that, he'll regurgitate easily disprovable lies in order to keep a slave race 'serving' him rather than pay a fair wage.

Yes they do jobs people don't want to do. why? Because the pay is shit. Why is the pay shit? Because employers can bitch and moan about not finding enough Americans to do the job and can then import, legally or illegally, workers to do the job for shit. They just have to live at the company apartment, shop at the company store, etc, etc.

Enjoy your slavery. But a rose by any other name is still a rose. And you are still a faggot.

[Anonymous No.11531723]

>>11525186
Because the largest agricultural region in the country is currently on fire.

[Anonymous No.11531746]

>>11526802
Yeah, sure, they're going to ship in food to support your fuck ass. What work are you going to do for this food? Surely something useful, liek building something, or creating an actual product in your hands. Cause all that art shit and gender studies will mean absolutely dick.

And yes, we garden, we hunt, we raise our own live stock. I've got about twenty chickens right now for eggs, more if i decided to let them breed, the acreage to support it. Enjoy your shit city when your pet diversity bunch cant afford food and they hang you from a bridge.

Its almost enough to make me wish your freakshow scenario comes to pass.

LEts see how you faggots do without gasoline. Enjoy learning how to refine shit form oil from scratch when all the actual fucking workers. ( read conservatives. I haven't met one oil bro who is a democrat.) come crashing down. Enjoy no heat, no ac, and no food. But I'm sure you'll be dead before you have to worry about that, after the rioters come to your home and murder you for your blankets.

[Anonymous No.11531763]

>>11527047
Thats fine and dandy. Then when your fucking urban press comes banging down your door becasue they know you have food what are you gonna do? You're gonna get down or lay down mother fucker. And I guarantee your ass will be laying down and begging them to fuck you so they don't straight up skin you alive for food.

[Anonymous No.11531915]

>Dumb flyovers bragging about their cheap mass produced fast food tier slop

If you're not spending at least $20 when you 'eat out' then you might as well just cook from here with whatever scraps you can harvest from your leftover casseroles or what have you lmao

[Anonymous No.11532073]

>>11531720
I'm white, I'm male and I did those jobs that apparently you wouldn't do...and I had to hustle to keep the fucking jobs sometimes too...
Picked rocks and shit in fields, planted trees, worked in a fibreglass insulation factory...Army...
Life is bready good naow as a tradie...

[Anonymous No.11532089]

Is great lakes flyover or is only the strict midwest like nebraska flyover?

[Anonymous No.11532119]

>>11528861
>Jupiter in Berkeley
>Drake's Brewing
Stop it, anon. You're almost making me miss the Bay.

[Anonymous No.11532123]

>>11525215
Lol go be poor somewhere else, faggot

[Anonymous No.11532132]

>>11532073
Mother fucker I'm half white myself. I've thrown sod, I've toted blocks, worked in industrial fab as well as carpentry my entire life.

Its fine when your area isn't filled with mexicans or the job requires exacting standards, otherwise its filled with mexican laborers posing as tradesman for the higher rate of pay or flat out working under the table for less than the minimum.

And yes you had to hustle in those jobs or you'd be fucking fired. No time for laziness.

[Anonymous No.11532208]

>>11526476
OP here. Those are examples from the whole menu, you silly needle dick muthafuggahs. It's not intended to be an entire meal, just pick what you would normally eat, like a beverage, salad, main entree, sides, and dessert.
If you bozos are an example of this countries future, we all be fucked.

[Anonymous No.11532220]

>>11532089
What? The Great Lakes is the midwest, Nebraska is the plains.

[Anonymous No.11532228]

>>11532220
Oh.

I was asking because I'm a filthy fucking GTA Ontario faggot so I thought my perception on what is and isn't flyover is off.

[Anonymous No.11532237]

>>11532228
Flyover is not used consistently here. It most specifically means the midwest, which is essentially the same thing as the great lakes, but Flyover is often used more broadly for everything that isn't LA and NY.

Often people just use some combination of stereotypes for the midwest, and more rural great plains, and sometimes even mix in southern memes, or they just think its like living in 1960s New England

[Anonymous No.11532632]

>>11530127
Well there's the extra 4% restaurant tax in San Francisco, that adds up fast on top of the 9.5% sales tax.

[Anonymous No.11532668]

>>11528876
I do know what you mean, haven't found anywhere good that does an NY style. It's odd that NYC has so many options for cheap greasy food but the Bay has nothing, even food carts are charging like $15 for a carton of trendy slop.

>>11532119
The food and the surrounding nature are the only things the Bay has going for it. I haven't found better fresh produce anywhere in the US, and the ethnic diversity does have its benefits. It's not worth coming back here for that though, everything else about the Bay ruins it.

[Anonymous No.11532678]

>>11525186
the same person that considers watching ads for new movies before your film "suffering" is the person that also goes out for burgers and WINE
this is why NYC is a shitshow

faggot probably isn't even from here, just some fucking transplant ruining this place even more

[Anonymous No.11532719]

>>11530253
not that guy but i think he means two very different classes of people: people who struggle to afford staple foods and the occasional big mac, and people who spend money on food frivolously then bitch when they see the price tag. Maybe I'm misinterpreting him though

[Anonymous No.11532775]

>>11532719
everyone who chooses to stay in NY is wasteful

consider the homeless for example. I always wonder why if you are homeless would you stay in NY? why would you stay somewhere that is not just more expensive to survive than anywhere else, but also unbearably cold for half the year?
from october to april you really don't want to be outside unless you absolutely have to be

I'd just start walking south

[Anonymous No.11533097]

>>11531425
Miami is pretty shit but the prices throughout all of Dade county aren't bad.

[Anonymous No.11533103]

>>11525215
>these replies
I don’t live in a cheap city (San Diego) and a dinner for two can definitely go way below $100.

[Anonymous No.11534077]

>>11525186
The burger is $5, the wine is $100, OP is a fag.

Every XBOG hueg food bill includes booze.

[Anonymous No.11534088]

>>11533103
This is true but I do genuinely wonder who goes out and pays $100 for "burger and wine". Like, is that $20 worth of burger and $80 worth of wine?

[Anonymous No.11534207]

>>11531915
>>11531915
>>11531915
>>11531915

[Anonymous No.11534308]

>>11525186
McDonald's may not be the best but it will say hello to you.

[Anonymous No.11534358]

I went downtown to a local sports bar and got a patty melt, beer, and buffalo mac n cheese for 10 bucks. Must suck living in places where you have to pay 30 bucks for a burger and fries. Thats what you get for living in cucked states like cali and NY.

[Anonymous No.11534378]

>>11534358
What about Nevada?

[Anonymous No.11534402]

>>11534358
I would never eat that much when at a bar. In fact, I'd never go to a bar. I want to get wasted, $10 spent at a bar is two pitchers of beer.

[Anonymous No.11534410]

>>11525540
>only $20
45% is the new standard stop low balling your waiter asshole.

[Anonymous No.11535095]

>>11528891
where do you live?
a burger at mcdonalds is in the 7 dollar range....

[Anonymous No.11535214]

>>11525186
>buy 2 5$ burgers
>get a 90$ wine bottle

something tells me that this is how it went down

also: everything is more expensive when you are forced to pay a 10% extra just so the owner can be a cheap asshole who pays shit to his employers

[Anonymous No.11535223]

>>11530111
Wow you're telling me fast food is cheap everywhere? HOLY SHIT!

[Anonymous No.11535242]

eating out is a luxury, everywhere, its going to cost more money then actually just buying the ingredients and cooking them.

[Anonymous No.11535366]

>>11535095
In my southern shithole a big mac or quarter pounder meal is $7+

[Anonymous No.11535807]

>>11525215
We paid 85$ for cheeseburgers and cokes/parking at Ed Debevics before they closed. It’s all location. 100$ sounds right for my wife and I to have a date night

[Anonymous No.11535942]

>>11525215
I think so too. I live in a big US city and even at a trendy spot I can get two "gourmet" burgers and wine for like $50.

[Anonymous No.11535960]

>>11525186
food is only expensive if you don't have a job. Literally most people in America have no problem eating food.

[Anonymous No.11536163]

>>11525186
food is cheap. some restaurants are expensive.

not all; i can go get a big dosa from a local indian place for $7

[Anonymous No.11536170]

>>11526373
yeah, but included in price

[Anonymous No.11536173]

>>11525540
problem is drinking. drinks add up so much. Mash'Allah, I'm muslim so doesn't affect me

[Anonymous No.11536174]

>>11525593
go to a chinese rest.

get a combo meal with soup for $10>>11525612
I just go to chinatown and get a plate of food for $5

[Anonymous No.11536177]

>>11525841
or iceland

[Anonymous No.11536178]

>>11535960
food is free if you dont have a job

[Anonymous No.11536181]

>>11525903
i go out to eat about once a week. nothing fancy though...
costs me about $30 at most for me and my wife.

[Anonymous No.11536186]

>>11526241
good. time for the market to re-adjust

[Anonymous No.11536192]

>>11527125
they don't refuse tips much anymore, kyou baka-yarou

[Anonymous No.11536193]

>>11530111
lmao coasties in a nutshell

if you're not earning 10x median wage you're basically a flyover with delusions of grandeur

[Anonymous No.11536195]

>>11525298
i can get a bowl of rcie with chicken and shit for $5 in chinatown...

[Anonymous No.11536200]

>>11530395
>QE didn't fuel the stock buying post 2008
>QE didn't allow financial institutions to keep giving out more loans in SV

H-holy delusion Batman. Most of the tech bubble is a colossal house of cards pumped up by easy access to liquidity that's why they took it so hard in the shorts last week in stock value because as interest rates rise the first people affected are all those incubators and profitless app designers hunting for new funds.

[Anonymous No.11536671]

>>11536200
we'd still see disparity in prices in that region without it you can't deny that. you're bitching about things being expensive in one local area and saying QE caused it

[Anonymous No.11537084]

>>11536671
Without QE San Jose's housing market would've crashed harder than Merced's. Not because San Jose is worse than Merced but because the amount of speculative worth in San Jose is the highest in the nation. Its a real estate speculation bubble fed by a tech speculation bubble fed by untenabley low interest rates. Don't get me wrong its a nice enough area but its housing is selling in the millions of dollars for p.o.s. GI bill housing built in the '50s. Its unreal to believe that's a healthy market. Two income households pulling 6 figures each struggle to afford decent housing c'mon stop deluding yourself.

[Anonymous No.11537087]

>>11537084
no it wouldn't it would still be more desirable than tulsa oklahoma

[Anonymous No.11537094]

>>11537087
Yes but the rate of desirability is FAR outstripped by the speculation. Tulsa's probably not so much. Kind of a left field comparison btw.

[Anonymous No.11537103]

>>11536193
Or maybe if you live in Podunk you don't know shit. Could be equally true, and probably more likely.

[Anonymous No.11537335]

>>11525540
this is one of the best b8s ive ever seen

[Anonymous No.11537988]

>>11525186
>expensive in America

You can get a burger for a dollar, food is cheap as fuck.

But if you want food + also the sense of superiority that comes from buying expensive products, the cost stops being caused by the food and starts being caused by the fancy neighbors you're trying to keep up with. That's not the foods fault, get poorer neighbors or stop trying to keep up with them.