The best milk is that of the Oats

[The best milk is that of the O(...) No.11470054]

The best milk is that of the Oats

[Anonymous No.11470056]

Oats ain't got no tiddies tho

[The best milk is that of the C(...) No.11470065]

The best milk is that of the Cars

[The best milk is that of the O(...) No.11470073]

>>11470065
FUCKING WRONG

[Anonymous No.11470079]

>""""""""""""""milk""""""""""""""

[Anonymous No.11470083]

>>11470054
>It's like milk but made of humans
Is this the new Soylent campaign?

[Anonymous No.11470088]

How is bovine milk any less "made for humans" than some processed to fuck oat "milk"?

[Anonymous No.11470094]

>>11470088
Cow milk is nutrient dense to support a baby calf. Most cows are pumped with hormones and antibiotics; which in turn are fed to the humans that drink the milk too.

[Anonymous No.11470098]

>>11470094
Oat milk is pulverized oat gonads processed by machines into liquid form, though.

[Anonymous No.11470100]

>>11470094
>Cow milk is nutrient dense to support a baby calf

That's why it's good for you. You need nutrients to live nigga.

[Anonymous No.11470102]

>>11470094
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that

[Anonymous No.11470105]

>>11470054

>it's like milk but made for humans

Why not milk actually made for humans?

[Anonymous No.11470111]

>>11470094

Just get organic milk where the cows aren't pumped with hormones and antibiotics.
Most oats are coated in poison so bugs don't eat them my dude. Where the fuck do you think that ends up? Your argument isn't anti milk nor pro oats, it's pro organic food.

[Anonymous No.11470113]

>>11470100
>>11470102
cows are huge, and have tons of meat mass. Humans are biologically built much differently. There is a ton of sugar and nutrients in cow milk to support a baby cow and grow said calf into a huge cow. Humans don't need cows milk and can get their nutritional needs from a well curated diet that spans from grains to protein and everything inbetween.

[Anonymous No.11470114]

>>11470094
>Most cows are pumped with hormones and antibiotics

Why don't you demonstrate that all those hormones and antibiotics are having 1)an effect on humans 2)a measurably worsening effect on humans before getting all up in arms about it especially considering cow milk has been part of the human diet for thousands of years.

[Anonymous No.11470116]

>>11470054
Oat milk is gross. I love oatmeal but I can't imagine any good reason to use this stuff. The flavor profile is so strong and the consistency is strange so it doesn't really fit most uses for milk

[Anonymous No.11470121]

>>11470105
MOMMY MILKIES

[Anonymous No.11470124]

>>11470114
female human breast milk has all the nutrients needed to support a human baby.

cow milk has all the nutrients needed to support a calf

goat milk has all the nutrients needed to support a baby goat

Dog milk has all the nutrients needed to support a puppy

see where I am going with this?

[Anonymous No.11470126]

>>11470113
We don't need lots of things milk tastes good

[Anonymous No.11470128]

>>11470113
>Humans don't need cows milk
You do realize that statement holds for literally ANY food, right?

>Humans don't need brussels sprouts
>Humans don't need chickpeas
>Humans don't need hamburgers
....it's totally meaningless.

>>can get their nutritional needs from a well curated diet that spans from grains to protein and everything inbetween.
And "milk" is included in that "in between".

[Anonymous No.11470133]

>>11470124
All those nutrients for baby animals are just as good for adult humans

[Anonymous No.11470138]

>>11470113
>cows are huge, and have tons of meat mass
Because they do nothing but eat all day.
Humans, as rational beings, are capable of regulating their diets.

[Anonymous No.11470140]

>>11470113
>There is a ton of sugar and nutrients in cow milk to support a baby cow and grow said calf into a huge cow
Which would support human growth very well especially since we share closer DNA to cows than fucking plants so said nutrients are easier for our bodies to process.
>Humans don't need cows milk and can get their nutritional needs from a well curated diet that spans from grains to protein and everything inbetween.
You really need to prove this because all nutritional science actually shows the opposite. A plant-based diet is way less healthy than an omnivorous diet for a human. Hell, even a purely carnivore diet is better for humans.

>>11470124
Oat gonads have all the nutrients needed to support an oat grain to grow.
See how stupid you sound?

[Anonymous No.11470142]

>>11470128

Their argument is that chemicals in the milk designed for the growth of calves do not do well in the human system. This is before you get into anything like animal infection and homogenization.

Prove them wrong I'd love to hear it as I drink a gallon of whole milk a week. It's delicious.

[Anonymous No.11470143]

Find me a beverage that is better for you than this per 8oz

[Anonymous No.11470144]

>>11470128
humans need water checkmate fagtron

[Anonymous No.11470145]

>>11470126
>>11470128
My main issue is that cows are farmed as machines, and the milk that goes to humans should be going to the calfs that are brutally murdered to make veal and so that they can push more milk product on the shelves.

The milk industry is mad at these alternative plant based milks for labeling their milks as "milk" and have gone so far to try and force these companies off the shelves because they are actually selling enough product to be at competition with these industries.

You are only drinking cows milk because it is putting tons of money in the pockets of extremely rich, selfish people. Who only care to continue and expand their profit margin.

[Anonymous No.11470148]

>>11470124
>see where I am going with this?
I see where you think you are going.
I have no idea why you want to go there or what the purpose of going there might be.

There is nothing that we humans eat which is made "for" food, except arguably fruit, which plants deliberately make not only edible, but delicious, so their seeds are spread via droppings. Leafy greens? Those aren't for eating, those are parts of the plant and support photosynthesis. Roots? No. They're not for eating either, those are for gathering moisture and nutrients from the soil to nurture the attached plant. Seeds? No:
>That has all the nutrients needed to grow a baby plant.

[Anonymous No.11470149]

>>11470138
Humans actually require tons of food and nutrients to support their brains. I think we might actually eat more than cows do, if not close to it.

[Anonymous No.11470152]

>>11470143
>12g sugar, 130mg sodium, 9g fat in 8oz
That's not healthy, that's bad for you.

[Anonymous No.11470153]

>>11470140
>Oat gonads have all the nutrients needed to support an oat grain to grow.
You seem to be comparing a growing plant to that of a growing animal. I hope this points out the irony in your statement.

[Anonymous No.11470157]

Dairy fairies seething
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19243483/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/1374738/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19232475/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4524299/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/19496976/

[Anonymous No.11470160]

>>11470145
"brutally murdered" you mean killed instantly and painlessly. Plant milks are not milk its nut juice call it what it is, Nuts dont have tittys.

>>11470152
Thats great for you are you high?

[Anonymous No.11470162]

>>11470145
Oh so NOW you are changing your entire argument from milk being unnecessary and bad for humans to
>muh poor cows

Fuck off. Organic milk is a thing and none of this horror story bullshit happens on organic farms. Go take your goalpost moving ass and fuck off.
>>11470153
It sure points out the idiocy of your statement. How are oat gonads "made for humans"?

[Anonymous No.11470166]

>>11470140
>Which would support human growth very well especially since we share closer DNA to cows than fucking plants so said nutrients are easier for our bodies to process.
I dont even know how to classify this. Is this broscience or just braindead faggot science?

>you really need to prove this
>proceeds to prove none of his outstanding claims

[Anonymous No.11470168]

>>11470145
>You are only drinking cows milk because it is putting tons of money in the pockets of extremely rich, selfish people

No, I'm drinking it because it tastes a lot better and it doesn't fuck up my cooking the way the "alternatives" have. Also, many of the plant-based milk products are loaded to fuck and back with additives. I thought they were supposed to be the healthier option? Fuck that noise.

[Anonymous No.11470172]

>>11470160
>drinks 8 fl oz of milk
Well, there goes literally 1/3rd of my daily allowance of sugar.

[Anonymous No.11470175]

>>11470143
Quite literally almost anything

[Anonymous No.11470176]

>>11470162
No I was stating my main issue with all of it, but my first one still stands. I honestly don't really care to argue these things but if you really want to get to the bottom of this, argue with someone who can properly defend their argument and have the information to back it up. If you're lucky someone like that will enter the thread. As for me, I feel silly for allowing myself to get this deep into this debate. May you all have a great day and God bless.

[Anonymous No.11470179]

The dairy industry seems incredibly cruel.

>>11470116
I find it delicious but then the only way I consume oat milk is adding it to oats and making porridge. I prefer almond or rice milk for protein shakes.

Also regarding comments about cattle pumped with growth hormones, and that comment about oats covered in poison. I wonder how this varies between the USA and various third world places compared to here in the EU.

[Anonymous No.11470181]

>>11470175
>>11470172
Post a beverage with a better nutrient ratio then

[Anonymous No.11470182]

>>11470162
What does organic have to do with anything related to being brutally tortured, raped, having your male calves ripped away and slaughtered, and getting killed the instant you’re no longer good for milk?

[Anonymous No.11470183]

>>11470166
You made a bullshit claim with no evidence, my dude.

[Anonymous No.11470185]

>>11470181
Almond milk. I don’t get saturated fat, cholesterol, or milk hormones turning me into a wheezing bitchtitted autist

[Anonymous No.11470186]

>>11470182
Whats wrong with that? If they were allowed to live past their usefulness it would be terrible for the environment

[Anonymous No.11470187]

>>11470182
That shit doesn't happen on organic farms, you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.11470192]

>>11470181
Water. Arnold Palmer Zero. Most zero-sugar beverages.

[Anonymous No.11470193]

>>11470183
That wasn’t even me. You’re currently doing the exact thing you’re complaining about. You’re also astoundingly stupid.

[Anonymous No.11470194]

>>11470185
lol instead you get colon cancer from your vegan diet

[Anonymous No.11470195]

>>11470185
wrong Almond milk is terrible for you you would be better off eating 3 almonds

[Anonymous No.11470200]

>>11470187
>>11470187
Grear fucking reply, you enormous autist

Now tell me again what part of organic relates to what I just said?

>>11470186
So where exactly does your usefulness come in? The solution is to obviously not begin the cycle in the first place

[Anonymous No.11470201]

>>11470193
And you're contributing nothing to this conversation.

[Anonymous No.11470203]

>Grains
>Processed grains
>Made for humans

[Anonymous No.11470204]

>>11470054
>Milk made for humans
So breast milk?

[Anonymous No.11470205]

>>11470200
I am a useless waste of space come kill me

[Anonymous No.11470208]

>>11470194
Right. I forgot about the colorectal cancer patent who DIDNT eat meat

>>11470195
You literally just posted something more nutritionally dense and less harmful than milk

[Anonymous No.11470209]

>>11470054
Oatboys incoming.

[Anonymous No.11470212]

>>11470201
I just pointed out how much of an incredulous retard you are just to make it blatant to everyone else.

[Anonymous No.11470214]

>>11470152
> Any amount of sugar is bad meme.

[Anonymous No.11470223]

>>11470208
No its not you would need 64oz of almond milk for the same protein. 96 oz for the same potassium, 24 oz for the same amount of fat. 35oz for the same calories. Sugar and fat are not bad for you

[Anonymous No.11470224]

>>11470204
We drink cow's milk tho, still a dumb logic.

[Anonymous No.11470232]

>>11470208
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/142427.php

[Anonymous No.11470234]

>>11470208
by your logic cornflakes are the greatest food ever invented

[Anonymous No.11470236]

>>11470223
>protein
vegans don't give a fuck about protein, bro.

[Anonymous No.11470238]

>>11470212
>incredulous
Nice out of place big boy word. You are so smart and I am so disbelievingly stupid.

[The best milk is that of the O(...) No.11470242]

>>11470203
>PROCESSED GRAINS
HAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.11470245]

>>11470214
No, but 12g in 8oz (which is a small portion, an adult's beverage is usually 16.9-22 fl oz) is a really bad value proposition.

[Anonymous No.11470247]

>>11470223
>MUH PROTEIN
Why do carnists think we live in sub Saharan Africa?

>MUH POTASSIUM
Eat a fucking banana, who actually relies on milk for potassium?

>Muh fat
Saturated fat is not healthy

>calories
Yes. Did you not understand the DENSITY part? This is not a bad thing. It has more of almost every vitamin and mineral

[The best milk is that of the O(...) No.11470248]

>>11470209
Based

[Anonymous No.11470249]

>>11470247
lmfao look at this limp wristed faggot I wonder what his T score is

[Anonymous No.11470251]

>>11470248
Wasn't the only fat proven to actually cause heart disease trans fat from vegetable shortening?

[Anonymous No.11470252]

>>11470238
You fail to grasp not only the arguments you yourself make but also the word incredulous

Really incredible

[Anonymous No.11470253]

>>11470247
synthetic vitamins and minerals you mean so they can pretend it good for you

[The best milk is that of the O(...) No.11470259]

>>11470249
Vegans have higher testosterone (im not even vegan)

[Anonymous No.11470263]

>>11470234
>nutrient dense healthy foods are BAD!!

The absolute state of your bitchtits

>>11470232
Ooh, yikes, VEGETARIAN. Try again next time!

[Anonymous No.11470264]

>>11470259
They have higher SHBG (which is normally found at higher levels in women and children) so their body has to produce more testosterone to compensate just to maintain normal levels. Their total testosterone levels are higher, but since SHBG is also higher it means their free testosterone levels are the same as omnivores.

[Anonymous No.11470268]

>>11470252
>uses adjective incorrectly
>tries to pass it off as lol you don't understand how smart I am

Sad.

[Anonymous No.11470269]

>>11470253
Oh no!!! Synthetic!!!

So is it more nutrient dense or not? This isn’t a discussion of your arbitrary naturalism

[Anonymous No.11470271]

>>11470269
Its more dense real milk has more macro and micro nutrients per oz than nut juice

[Anonymous No.11470272]

>>11470268
>incorrectly
Lmaooooooooo

Incoming damage control in 10

[Anonymous No.11470281]

>>11470271
Im assuming you’re just dumber than you appear and didn’t realize you just wrote a contradiction. Ignoring that what shithole do you live in where you’re worried about getting enough macros? Saturated fat isn’t something to champion either. From the listed nutritional information it is objectively not more micronutrient dense

[Anonymous No.11470297]

>>11470281
Macros are important. What kind of horrible diet do you have that you have to supplement with synthetic vitamins lol

[Anonymous No.11470300]

>>11470272
So you meant to say that I'm a retard who refuses to believe anything? Because the way you used it does not mean that I refuse to believe I'm a retard.

[Anonymous No.11470314]

Cow milk is made for humans. We have whole farms dedicated to it.

[Anonymous No.11470329]

>>11470297
Macros are important if you’re battling starvation. It’s not a remote thing to be splitting hairs over in milk in society. And again you’re shifting from what’s healthier to “MUH NATURALISM” as you type from a computer all day as a result of your vaccine induced autism. Why exactly is fortified food bad? Because you have no other argument to work from?

>>11470300
You predictably are completely UNABLE to understand the definition in its plain writing. You being UNABLE to understand a middle school level vocab word is not my fault

[Anonymous No.11470335]

>>11470329
>doesn't answer question at all to save face so that he can pretend he made no mistake

Good move, genius.

[Anonymous No.11470349]

>>11470335
Im guessing your perception level is at a 1. I sincerely refuse to believe you are this U-N-A-B-L-E to grasp a single fucking thing ive said.

Is “pretending” to be brain damaged your damage control?

[Anonymous No.11470353]

>>11470349
>more words to further obfuscate the question that he has no answer for

[Anonymous No.11470360]

>>11470145
Animals are objects. You can't murder objects.

[Anonymous No.11470366]

>>11470353
I’ll take that as a yes

[Anonymous No.11470370]

>>11470360
Hi, Stephen.

[Anonymous No.11470387]

>>11470366
lol okay

[Anonymous No.11470394]

>>11470259
Vegans are on average less obese than the general population. Obesity lowers T. Most studies that claim health benefits for veganism disregard the fact that vegans tend to be more health conscious than the general population. The benefits tend to evaporate when comparing vegans to people with an active lifestyle who eat a balanced omnivorous diet.

[Anonymous No.11470408]

>>11470394
*curb your enthusiasm theme*

[Anonymous No.11470412]

>>11470408
>n=21

[Anonymous No.11470413]

>>11470105
>Implying khazars are human

[Anonymous No.11470427]

>>11470412
It can read

[Anonymous No.11470465]

>>11470427
>small sample size
>uses biometrics as a proxy for actual health effects, further lowering significance
>low calorie, low protein vegan instead of a vegan diet with protein and calorie intake comparable to the other sampled groups
What a fucking trainwreck.

[Anonymous No.11470480]

>>11470247
>you can get it elsewhere so it doesn't count
Retard.

[Anonymous No.11470484]

>>11470465
>small sample size
Compared to pure epidemiological studies? Sure i guess

>>uses biometrics as a proxy for actual health effects, further lowering significance
Oh boy, your opinion, how valuable! I guess thickened arteries and high blood pressure are tremendous!

>low calorie, low protein vegan instead of a vegan diet with protein and calorie intake comparable to the other sampled groups
Another uninformed worthless opinion

What a fucking trainwreck!!!

[Anonymous No.11470488]

>>11470480
Lol this fucking retard is worried about his macro intakes in different milks

[Anonymous No.11470509]

>>11470488
I'm not worried about shit. The argument was which had more nutritional value and you decided to deflect because you get potassium by shoving a banana up your ass.

[Anonymous No.11470537]

>>11470509
You’re worried enough to get triggered over potassium, faggot. May as well be harping about the Vitamin C in oils. There’s a reason people get concerned about shit like Vitamin D and Iron. They’re far more important and less widely available nutrients you total fucking idiot

Do you consider dihydrogen monoxide content of importance in your foods?

[Anonymous No.11470583]

>>11470073
I knew my home state was good for something!

[Anonymous No.11470584]

>>11470484
>I guess thickened arteries and high blood pressure are tremendous!
Not high enough in the tested groups to pose a significant risk.

>Another uninformed worthless opinion
How so? Ceteris paribus, nigga.

[Anonymous No.11470627]

>>11470584
Cool opinion. Can’t wait to hear what Jonah Hill has to say about it next. A 28 point differential in blood pressure is absolutely significant

>muh protein
Not the point of the study. You’re too dumb to realize that of course so i wont

[Anonymous No.11470628]

>>11470105
I need it!

[Anonymous No.11470691]

>>11470628
sauce me noaw plZ

[Anonymous No.11470702]

>>11470627
Not high enough to cause increased risk of cardiovascular disease.

>much protein
Protein causes a spike in insulin levels. The fact that the vegan diet is low calorie and low protein instead of having comparable protein and calorie levels to the other diets is significant, because it muddles the results. Any low protein low calorie diet may yield similar (debatably) positive results.

Ceteris paribus.

[Anonymous No.11470713]

>>11470114
kek hey man, keep eating it. There’s a reason 10 year-old girls are getting their periods now

[Anonymous No.11470756]

>>11470702
Sizzling hot opinion again. It’s almost as if you’re completely missing the poinf of the original assertions! Prehypertension which the marathon runners might fall under arguably increases stroke risk. Prehypertension isn’t anything to utterly disregard

>Protein causes a spike in insulin levels
And.....? Again this isn’t an evaluation of protein. This is a horrifically stupid hill to be fighting over. You’d be better off arguing the specific foods they’re eating, like vegan and non vegan maybe!!! If you can’t understand why the marathon runners are having a larger caloric intake there’s no point in even communicating any other ideas to you.

So far all of your concerns are independent of anything related to the individual discussion nor do they even have their own individual merit

[Anonymous No.11470764]

>>11470702
And again saying ceteris paribus means shit. The study isn’t about macros you strawmanning retard.

[Anonymous No.11470908]

There is literally no reason not to be vegan in the year of our Lord 2018.

[Anonymous No.11471026]

>>11470908
This

[Anonymous No.11471039]

oat milk is so easy to make
oats and water
wala

[Anonymous No.11471077]

>>11471039
>wala

[Anonymous No.11471087]

>>11471077
Bone apple tea

[Anonymous No.11471120]

>>11470054
>Oat Milk
>Milk Made For Humans
I'm pretty sure human breast milk is Milk Made For Humans, is Oat Milk like breast milk then?

[Anonymous No.11471132]

>>11471120
No it's Oat Juice, but they can't call it that because Oat Juice sounds very unappealing

[Anonymous No.11471173]

I've had a couple oat mylk lattes at those hipster cofffeeshops, and I gotta say that shit is pretty good. Creamy without that guargum aftertaste and no weird carbonpencil taste like almond milk and no weird sour thinnes from coconut cream.
Hands down easily the best tasting and texture for a vegan milk. Best hot too, good on a matcha latte forgot to mention.

Oat milk in oats with peanutbutter and protein powder and banana is pretty fuckin good.

I use it because I get enough fat/cholesterol from the greek yogurt, eggs, and protein I already eat instead of having milk

[Anonymous No.11471412]

>>11470054
it really takes a pretty messed up person to advertise their product like that.

[Anonymous No.11471573]

>>11470145
I'm drinking cow milk because I want to

[Anonymous No.11471581]

>>11471412
RING A DING DING

remember that the people they are targeting are not a group strongly associated with excess critical thought

[Anonymous No.11471639]

>>11470143
>12g sugar per cup
Is this soda?

[Anonymous No.11471701]

>>11470054
But oats aren't made for humans, oats are made for growing into more oat plants.

[Anonymous No.11471904]

milk is simply milk. it cant be compared to any other food. of the various bean juices and seed juices available, one stands out as actually good in its own way: silk protein nut milk, made from cashews and almonds, 10 g protein per serving (like soymilk), just a hint of sugar, thick, nice nutty/planty flavor, not like cows or goats milk at all, but a good food. all the other fake milks are atrocious, either horrible flavor or too much sugar. unsweetened chocolate almond milk was good when i could find it, but its still just water.

[Anonymous No.11471911]

>>11470124
i am a oat. so i drink oat milk. i am growing into a big and strong oat. oat lives matter.

[Anonymous No.11471942]

>>11471904
Find the right brands. Dont think of it as a milk replacement but as an ingredient itself. unsweetened coconut milk and oat mylk and almond milk that has no guar gum, careengan, and other stabilizers are legit ingredients to add to your tool list.

walnut milk added to, and not insubstitute of whole milk, in a banana bread adds an hidden nuttyness that taste pretty great.

[benis No.11472061]

>oat milk thread
>no oats posting
brother, I am disappointed.

[Anonymous No.11472570]

>>11470756
>>11470764
God you're fucking stupid. Have you ever had to set up a scientific experiment?

My point is that to determine the health effects of a vegan diet vs an omnivore diet, the only difference between the groups should be wethsr their food is completely plant-based or not. Caloric intake, macro composition, and level of physical activity should all be constant between groups.

The biometrics used as results in this study are also useless on their own. If there was an epidemiological study that had found lower rates of cardiovascular disease and diabetes among vegans versus an otherwise equal group, these biometrics could be used to explain that difference.