/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.11354406]

I'm starting to feel bad about eating animal meat.

How do vegetarians treat themselves? Tempura-style veggies?

[Anonymous No.11354412]

>>11354406
Stop letting your emotions dictate your behavior. It is a weakness.

[Anonymous No.11354414]

>>11354406
I'm starting to feel like veg threads need to be banned.

[Anonymous No.11354418]

>>11354406
Why was Joe killing so many small birds? That's kind of weird.

[Anonymous No.11354419]

>>11354406
Woah this comics... I read it now call me Johny Deep.

[Anonymous No.11354420]

>>11354418
He was just testing and retesting the tensile strength of their necks. You can't just snap one bird neck, because you just don't beleive how fragile it is, the head jsut pops off. So you test another, and another. Because you need to be sure.

Ya know?

[Anonymous No.11354425]

>>11354420
okay psychopath

[Anonymous No.11354426]

>>11354406
good for you, anon, you have a heart in the right place and compassion. A rare thing here on this mexican cholula forum

[Anonymous No.11354427]

>>11354412

t. some mentalist who watches "SJW gets owned" compilations on youtube

[Anonymous No.11354428]

>>11354418

Look at the animals, he's some kind of hunter.

[Anonymous No.11354432]

>>11354427
t. Some roastie whore that does things because they feel good

[Anonymous No.11354435]

>>11354432
who the fuck is out hunting fucking humingbirds

[Anonymous No.11354437]

>>11354432

>that does things because they feel good

???

Are you saying you don't do anything that makes you feel happy? Get help anon.

[Anonymous No.11354442]

>>11354435
French probably, they'll eat anything.

[Anonymous No.11354447]

>>11354406
He wouldn't have been responsible for eating just one cow. It's cruel to make a cow hang around for everyone to say sorry to it. It's something that a person who really needs to virtue signal about the shit they eat would believe.

[Anonymous No.11354462]

>>11354432
t. Repressed incel that watches THIS IS EPIC ben shapiro compilations

[Anonymous No.11354464]

>>11354406
>Implying Animals have souls.

[Anonymous No.11354466]

>>11354406
So does every carnivorous animal have to face their prey in the afterlife? This is your brain on slave morality.

>those whose llives you've taken
If I take something's life, it becomes my life. By killing them I make them my property in the most absolute sense of the word.

[Anonymous No.11354504]

>>11354466

Wew, watch yourself on those edges, anon.

[Anonymous No.11354517]

>>11354462
>Female that can't argue besides " you don't get sex"
How does it feel to be scared of being raped?

[Anonymous No.11354541]

>>11354517
you're wrongfully assuming i have a vagoo, buddy
your irrational hatred of women though is very telling

[Anonymous No.11354547]

>>11354406
joe the hero literally stopped a local locust swarm

god bless u joe

[Anonymous No.11354548]

>>11354406
>Green Beret with only one human kill
weak shit

[Anonymous No.11354555]

>>11354406
I started eating less meat because of all the gore killing shit ck posted. Really open my eyes about the industry

[Anonymous No.11354561]

>>11354555
>less

[Anonymous No.11354564]

>>11354504
>anything other than slave morality is edgy
Far from it, I just see the life-affirming quality of killing and consuming another living being to sustain your own life.

[Anonymous No.11354568]

>>11354564
>bro why are you equating humans and animals we’re better!!

>bro carnivores kill other animals all the time why cant we!!!

[Anonymous No.11354584]

>>11354568
>>bro carnivores kill other animals all the time why cant we!!!
well why can't we faggot? why does the lives of animals (who give no shits about us as a species) matter as much as if not more than the lives of humans (who have the capacity to give a fuck and benefit society as a whole)?

[Anonymous No.11354598]

>>11354568
>bro why are you equating humans and animals we’re better!!
Never in my life have I made this argument. This is arguing within the framework of slave morality.

>bro carnivores kill other animals all the time why cant we!!!
Again, not arguing this, just pointing out the logical absurfity of the OP. If a human kills an animal, that animal deserved to die and the human deserves to eat it. If a bear kills and eats me that is just and proper, though members of my species will probably kill it out of retribution and self-interest concerning their safety.

Power is virtue. Meekness is a sin. Slave morality is a perversion that goes against human psychology and the natural order of the universe.

[Anonymous No.11354602]

>>11354584
>well why can’t we
Because using your same logic as putting them on the same pedestal they are our equals and slaughtering life is abhorrent. Excluding yourself we’re rational living beings that think and can reason. You’re not a carnivorous animal and you don’t need meat

>they’re lesser than us!!! Eat them
Get ready to get stuffing shoved up your ass

[Anonymous No.11354609]

>>11354598
>never in my life have i made this argument

>proceeds to equate himself to extremely predatory bears

[Anonymous No.11354611]

>>11354406
I love the elephant in the background

[Anonymous No.11354612]

>>11354602
they aren't our equals, a fucking cow isn't going to help or support you like another human being will

you're free to make actual arguments against meat (environmental damage is particularly valid) but putting animals on some moral pedestal is literally retarded when said animals would never do the same for you

[Anonymous No.11354616]

>>11354555
good job buddy

[Anonymous No.11354620]

>>11354609
>equate
I don't equate myself to anything. Equation is only relevant within the framework of slave morality. The only things that truly matter are ability and motivation. A bear can kill and eat me, but if I'm armed I can kill the bear and eat it instead. This is proper.

[Anonymous No.11354622]

>>11354612
>a fucking cow isn't going to help or support you like another human being will
Most people dont help other people, you’re not helping other people by participating in such a destructive practice. Should we eat you too?

>putting animals on a moral pedestal
Then dont put yourself on the pedestal “lol all animals kill each other bro!!” in the same breath, you’re either a carnivorous purely instinctual predator (you’re not) or you’re a reasonable person that isn’t a total piece of shit (you’re also not)

You could make arguments about benefits of eating meat like heal-
Like the envir-
Like uhhh...

Your feelings?

[Anonymous No.11354624]

>>11354620
>i dont equate myself to anything

>equates himself to a bear again

Enough with that cringey slave shit, pol cancer desperately looking for a zippy buzzword, you’re a slave for subscribing to some Armageddon naturalist scenario when you’re a fat turd drinking the breast milk of a cow because John Goldstein paid for an ad saying its good for you. You’re already a slave, you’re just looking to justify it

[Anonymous No.11354626]

>>11354406
>Concerned trolling

[Anonymous No.11354628]

>>11354406
If you eat those animals in heaven do they get reborn?

[Anonymous No.11354631]

>>11354628
animals don't go to heaven

[Anonymous No.11354640]

It's been hinted at itt, but this needs to be stated more strongly. Carnies justify their slaughter of life by arguing they are superior to all other animals. Yet the impulse to slaughter and eat other life is precisely reptilian behavior which means carnists accept they are mentally and emotionally on the same level as crocodiles.

A vegan recognizes that if humans are to evolve spiritually, mentally and physically to a higher plain, we have to reject the baser elements hardwired in our brains including the wholesale, unnecessary slaughter of life and the planet itself.

[Anonymous No.11354645]

>>11354640
If you really cared about life, your political platform wouldn't include the right to slaughter babies

[Anonymous No.11354651]

I fucking love meat,

If some shitbird animal with an IQ lower than even the fattest american needs to die so i can have it then so be it.

[Anonymous No.11354658]

>>11354640

You're not on a 'higher plain' you fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.11354665]

>>11354624
>equates himself to a bear again
You really are incapable of thinking outside that narrow framework, aren't you? Me killing a bear or being killed by a bear isn't a moral situation. It's a simple case of ability and motivation, the same way any interaction between living beings works. The bacterium Yersina pestis isn't evil for killing millions of people, a cheetah isn't evil for killing a gazelle, I'm not evil for killing a chicken. Death is part of life. Life eats life. This is proper.

>a fat turd
6'2" 165 lbs

[Anonymous No.11354668]

>>11354640
Again with the slave morality. Meekness isn't a virtue. Ascetiscism isn't a virtue. Life eats life.

[Anonymous No.11354671]

>>11354645
Except it doesn’t. Maybe if you weren’t such a worthless fat poltard you wouldnt grasp for such stupid strawmen. Pathetic

[Anonymous No.11354679]

>>11354665
Is framework the biggest word you know?

>IM NOT EQUATING US TO ANIMALS
>BUT LOOK AT THESE ANIMALS KILLING ANIMALS

Fucking retard. Take your neo spiritual faggotry elsewhere

>6’2 165
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

FUCKING

PATHETIC

LANKLET

[Anonymous No.11354682]

>>11354668
Being a fucking retarded twig that could barely fight off a large toddler isnt a strength. Neither is repeating the same cringey buzzword mantras you have

[Anonymous No.11354689]

to be fair we do need another holocaust

[Anonymous No.11354693]

>>11354671
Not an argument, baby killer. How many have you had?

[Anonymous No.11354696]

>>11354406
Joe finna boutta get sum horsecock like he always wanted but society wouldn’t let him be himself. Furries unite

[Anonymous No.11354702]

>>11354693
>youre a baby killer

>im against abortion though

>Haha! You dont fit my preconceived narrative!! not an argument!!!

Wonderful discussion. Carnists arent human. Carnist fetuses are vegan eggs

[Anonymous No.11354703]

>>11354406
wait if you eat meat you're only eating part of the animal right so if anything your just an accessory to murder
also obesity is vegan because sugar is vegan

[Anonymous No.11354715]

>>11354406

This is the gayest shit I've seen in a while. It's up it's own ass with pretentiousness. 2/3 of the Abrahamic religions (if not 3/3 don't know enough about Islam) see animals as nothing more than tools for man.

The Lord literally created them as nothing more than tools FOR man. If you're Jewish the Lord basically wants you to kill an animal after every action to praise him. Why on earth would we apologize for killing something that was put on the earth for us to kill?

Whoever wrote that comic was pandering to the lowest common denominator. If you actually got "feels" from the comic you are nothing short of an NPC.

Think before you feel feelings you faggots.

[Anonymous No.11354721]

>>11354715
>christcuck

Lmao

[Anonymous No.11354725]

>>11354622
>Most people dont help other people, you’re not helping other people by participating in such a destructive practice. Should we eat you too?
except i help people all the time through charity, etc., thus i have value according to this moral system. farm animals have no moral benefit, net or otherwise
>Then dont put yourself on the pedestal “lol all animals kill each other bro!!”
where did i say that?
>or you’re a reasonable person that isn’t a total piece of shit (you’re also not)
i don't know why you're accusing me of being irrational while in the same breath slinging insults and shitting your pants over >MUH ANIMALS that don't give a fuck about your existence and would idly watch you burn to death before returning to grazing

[Anonymous No.11354738]

>>11354725
>im a good person!!!
Sure. Destroying the environment and slaughtering innocent beings because you’re a fat fuck that can’t put down the fork isn’t charitable

>where did i say that
>>11354584

>i dont know why you’re accusing me of being irrational
Thats not surprising. You’re a fat retard

>waah hes calling me mean names!!
Baby want a bottle?

>t-the animals do it!!
You’re a fat fucking cow. Is that what you wanted to hear? We’re either their equivalents or not, stop waffling

[Anonymous No.11354742]

>>11354640

I feel bad about eating meat but this diatribe is making me rethink my feelings.

Humans ARE apex predators. We ARE better than all other animals on the face of the planet. It's a fact that eating meat is what separated wheat from chaff and played a huge roll in our evolutionary progress.

In an empirical measurable way there is more to support meat eating is the answer to transcendence than not. That is a fact.

Your virtue signaling only makes your kind look like pretentious brain-dead faggots.

[Anonymous No.11354747]

>>11354420
How interesting, please elaborate

[Anonymous No.11354749]

>>11354738
>Sure. Destroying the environment and slaughtering innocent beings because you’re a fat fuck that can’t put down the fork isn’t charitable
keeping innocent beings alive that actively destroy the environment isn't charitable either brainlet
>repeatedly calling someone a fatass over and over because he can't provide an argument
yikes, looks like i struck a nerve with this one

maybe you should try calling me a fatass a few more times, that'll make you feel better :^)

[Anonymous No.11354750]

>>11354679
>>11354682
First I'm a fat turd, then I'm a lanklet twig. If you insult me any more you might just convince me to become a vegan!

>another accusation of equating humans to animals
You seem to be stuck in a false dichotomy of equal-unequal, my friend. I'm saying it's not an issue. Killing an animal or getting killed by one just means one of the two had the ability and the motivation to do the deed. If I can't defend myself I deserve to die. The same goes for the animals we eat.

Morality is just something we humans made up to create functioning societies. Murder is bad because it destabilises society and decreases the chances of survival of all of it's members. Promiscuity is bad because stable, nuclear families are the best way to raise children. I can go on an on with examples, but it all boils down to the cultural evolution that formed our societies. If a certain idea increases the fitness of a population, that idea will be selected for and it will become a moral value in the collective minds of the people.

Applying these same moral values to animals, where they have no positive impact on raising these animals for their products, is an evolutionary spandrel. When we reflect upon these spandrels, we can dismiss them as irrational and counterproductive.

[Anonymous No.11354754]

>>11354742
Viruses are the apex predators

>roll

>It's a fact that eating meat is what separated wheat from chaff and played a huge roll in our evolutionary progress.
In no way other than caloric surplus. It’s obvious eating McChickens hasn’t made you smarter or stronger, fatboy

>by this one single irrelevant metric, eating meat is justifiable!!!
Powerful neurological capacity here

[Anonymous No.11354757]

>>11354721

>Being too fucking stupid to realize I said Abrahamic religions and that Abrahamic ≠ Christianity alone.
>Being this much of a faggot.

[Anonymous No.11354768]

>>11354757
Jesus didn't have a problem with meat

[Anonymous No.11354770]

>>11354757
That makes you a kike then, 'cause you claim not to know a lot about Islam.

[Anonymous No.11354771]

>>11354750
6’2 165 is fucking humiliating

>you seem to be stuck
No, that’d be you. We’re not equal but apparently by the same standards animals live by, we must live by. That’s not a false dichotomy, retard. That’s the exact thing you’re saying.

>MUH NU AGE MANTRAS
Nobody fucking cares, you’re a pathetic twig and by your own logic should be picked apart by a gang of fucking sloths

>Morality is just something we made up
Lol fucking psycopath, ill be sure to reference this line when every carnist gets hunted down and farmed for their meat

God you are such a cringey pol larping faggot. You’re a worthless fucking twig jerking off to hentai on 4chan, you offer nothing and are nothing, you’re not some primal hunter, you’re a weird looking faggot

[Anonymous No.11354772]

>>11354406
Stop killing plants, you monster.

[Anonymous No.11354774]

>>11354757
Oh so you’re a kike. Even worse.

[Anonymous No.11354780]

Obligatory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFF30jfTubU&index=54&t=0s&list=LLtL5SxLGfsFS0h2QhA84YKw

[Anonymous No.11354781]

>Morality is just something we humans made up to create functioning societies. Murder is bad because it destabilises society and decreases the chances of survival of all of it's members. Promiscuity is bad because stable, nuclear families are the best way to raise children. I can go on an on with examples, but it all boils down to the cultural evolution that formed our societies. If a certain idea increases the fitness of a population, that idea will be selected for and it will become a moral value in the collective minds of the people.

[Anonymous No.11354791]

>>11354771
>still stuck on that false dichotomy
I'm sorry you're incapable of entertaining a third option: apathy.

>Lol fucking psycopath
>ill be sure to reference this line when every carnist gets hunted down and farmed for their meat
I'm sorry for studying evolutionary biology.

[Anonymous No.11354792]

>>11354754
>Viruses are the apex predators
Holy shit, can't even discern animals from microorganisms. Talk about a disorganized head-space. Pot-smoking hippy detected.

>In no way other than caloric surplus.

There is no scientific proof that this is the case. The fact is that meat has an array of vitamins in abundance that are normally scarce. The most important of which being complex B vitamins. Again, this is a fact. Complex B vitamins are crucial for a healthy brain and trying to substitute the vitamins naturally is near impossible for Vegans in healthy amounts. This only strengthens the argument that meat is crucial for higher brain function.

>In no way other than caloric surplus. It’s obvious eating McChickens hasn’t made you smarter or stronger, fatboy

Says more about you than me, clearly I'm smarter than you. Your chain of thought is so disorganized it's made me thankful I didn't stick with vegetarianism.

>by this one single irrelevant metric, eating meat is justifiable!!!

It's a single metric in your mind alone. And even if it was a single metric that is more than anything you are able to produce so by default you lost the argument.

Stay away from veganism children, it makes you a weepy retarded faggots like this poster.

[Anonymous No.11354795]

>>11354768

That's precisely what I said. Are you guys so retarded that you can't understand when someone is agreeing with you?

[Anonymous No.11354798]

>>11354791
Buddy i think you know what false dichotomy means as much as you know what a salad is.

>apathy
That had nothing to do with what your equating, but cool. Anything you can pull out of a thesaurus at this point

>im sorry for studying evolutionary biology
Are we in the same timeline? I’m not sure you’re quite all there

[Anonymous No.11354801]

>>11354770
>>11354774

What the fuck are you guys on about? I'll dumb this down for you because clearly you both are so retarded that you can't translate my simple worded response.

Judaism and Christianity and possibly Islam (although I am NOT sure because I don't know as much about Islam) has NO PROBLEM WITH KILLING ANIMALS.

If you are a Jew, God wants you to kill something as sacrifice after just about anything. If you are a christian God said to use animals anyway you like and that he basically doesn't give a shit because all animals are a gift from God.

I'm agreeing with you retarded faggots.

[Anonymous No.11354805]

>>11354801
You're still a filthy kike.

[Anonymous No.11354806]

>>11354792
>cant even discern animals from microorganisms
No. This is just you in damage control mode. There is and will always be viruses and bacteria stronger than us and will outlive us. You can bullshit semantics all you want, it’s the truth. Sorry you’re too much of a retarded cuck

>there is no scientific proof this is the case
There is no scientific proof some magical property exclusive to meat made us what we are, maybe made YOU a bumbling retard. That is an actual fact you cannot dispute, you are only confirming what I just said as meat being an additional food source, not some mysterious substance

>is near impossible
Oh right because you said so, cool

>clearly im smarter
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.11354808]

>>11354466
>So does every carnivorous animal have to face their prey in the afterlife?
They are soulless, just like chinks.

[Anonymous No.11354811]

>>11354801
No one gives a shit about your bedtime story fairytales, faggot.

[Anonymous No.11354814]

>>11354420
>>11354425
>>11354747
I worked one summer as a teenager on a poultry farm. The owner executed sick birds by stepping on their head and pulling from their feet until the neck breaks.

[Anonymous No.11354815]

>>11354805

Obviously your so stupid that you don't know what Abrahamic religion means. You think I'm a Jew because I said Abrahamic ≠ Christianity alone.

Abrahamic means the three religions where Abraham played a crucial role in the religion.

That would mean Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

I'm not Jewish you filthy fucking faggot.

[Anonymous No.11354818]

>>11354815
>obviously your so stupid

[Anonymous No.11354819]

>>11354798
A false dichotomy is when you falsely assume only two possible alternatives, when there are other options. I don't have to either put myself above animals or equate myself to them. That only matters withgin the framework of slave morality. I say it doesn't matter. It is inconsequential. My alternative is apathy.

I mentioned I study (among other fasets of biology) evolutionary biology, because that is what informs my opnion on the nature of morality. This in response to being called a psychopath by a guy who wants to butcher "carnists." Already finished my BSc, working on my MSc right now, focussing on ecology.

[Anonymous No.11354820]

>>11354811

I never said I did, OP posted the comic and I was pointing out that the religion the comic is based on doesn't even support it's message.

Are you guys drinking buckets of retard sauce?

[Anonymous No.11354823]

>>11354819
>i dont have to

[Anonymous No.11354824]

>>11354818

>Spelling mistake is equal to completely misinterpreting a simply worded reply 3X.

Stay buttmad faggot.

[Anonymous No.11354826]

>>11354815
So you implied you're neither a christcuck or a mudslime, but you're not a kike? What are you then, a pedantic, obfuscating christcuck?

[Anonymous No.11354829]

>>11354819
>when you falselt assume two possible alternatives
Not necessarily

>im not equating them
That’s exactly what you were doing. You’re either backpedaling or admitting you’re a stupid fag that can’t communicate for shit

>fasets
Lol only thing you study is the dollar menu. It has nothing to do with morality, you just started taking an intro course on biology at community college is what you meant to say

>who wants to butcher carnists
You really aren’t all there are you?

>im smawt momma!!!
Good for you, schnookums

[Anonymous No.11354834]

>>11354820
>I never said I did
Did you get dropped on your head repeatedly? Nobodys asking you if you care faggot. Nobody gives a shit about your autistic christcuck ranting

[Anonymous No.11354836]

>>11354824
Nobody is misinterpreting anything. Nobody cares about your submissive fantasies about jews in the desert

YOU’R’E retarded

[Anonymous No.11354838]

>>11354806
>No. This is just you in damage control mode. There is and will always be viruses and bacteria stronger than us and will outlive us. You can bullshit semantics all you want, it’s the truth. Sorry you’re too much of a retarded cuck

Imagine being so deluded that you think you can pick and choose whatever scientific rules you want. Imagine being so self important that you think you have the authority to follow certain semantics while disregarding others because they don't follow your train of thought.

That's you, you are clearly buttmad that I'm technically right and you are trying to cope by saying I'm relying on semantics. I'm relying on fact faggot.

>There is no scientific proof some magical property exclusive to meat made us what we are, maybe made YOU a bumbling retard. That is an actual fact you cannot dispute, you are only confirming what I just said as meat being an additional food source, not some mysterious substance

You're so delusional that it's funny. Complex B vitamins are vital for brain function and they are found in abundance in meat. If you don't have the correct amount while growing up you can develop a whole host of mental disorders/retardation for your entire life.

Don't take my word for it

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=are+complex+b+vitamins+vital+for+brain+function

Please, show me how you could possibly get all those B vitamins naturally from day to day without resorting to meat eating or a pill (which wouldn't be necissary.)

You can't, checkmate faggot.

[Anonymous No.11354844]

>>11354406
Pretty good until last panel.

[Anonymous No.11354849]

>>11354838
>pick and choose what scientific rules
Lol, viruses are objectively the apex. Limiting your scope to just “animals on animals” is pure damage control. Nobody is saying viruses are animals you desperate shithead

>that im technically right
Technically right by your limited standards? Congratulations!!!

>youre so delusional
>SO delusional
>like im not even going to link any actual evidence, just google it!!!
Brilliant argument

>they dont exist in plants because i say so!!!
Epic

[Anonymous No.11354855]

>>11354801
In the old testament there was no meat eating in Eden nor would there be in heaven (not for animals either). It's part of the original sin, evil brought into being by flawed humans.

So it kinda has a problem with it, but it's inevitable because humans are shit.

[Anonymous No.11354857]

>>11354855
original sin is because a WOMAN listened to a SNAKE and ate a... (wait for it)
.
.
.
FRUIT!!!
Which is vegan. So checkmate vegans.

[Anonymous No.11354860]

Please give vegans their own containment board.

Or restrict them to /pol/ since it's a spiritual/ideological movement moreso than having to do with cooking.

[Anonymous No.11354861]

>>11354855
And the ants and bugs Eve sat her fat ass on?

[Anonymous No.11354866]

>>11354860
>WAAAAH I WANT A SAFE SPACE!!
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.11354867]

the dude eat a fucking gook

[Anonymous No.11354869]

>>11354849
>Lol, viruses are objectively the apex. Limiting your scope to just “animals on animals” is pure damage control. Nobody is saying viruses are animals you desperate shithead

Classifactions exist as much for a reason. Viruses are not apex predators, there is no debate.

>Technically right by your limited standards? Congratulations!!!

I didn't set the standard for classifications you autist I just use them correctly. Stay buttmad.

>like im not even going to link any actual evidence, just google it!!!

Literally every link will explain in detail what I've been saying. I'm not going to spend my time writing an essay so some lazy faggot can digest what they should already know.

>they dont exist in plants because i say so!!!

B12 literally doesn't. Find one vegan source. One. That doesn't even matter compared to the amount you would have to eat for the others, it's impossible without pills due to sheer volume.

[Anonymous No.11354872]

>>11354829

[Anonymous No.11354875]

>>11354866
I want them off /ck/ because their threads are fucking cancer.

[Anonymous No.11354880]

>>11354866

I roomed with a vegan once, I can translate this:

>We wouldn't have anything to talk about if we were on our own board because all we do is bash people for refusing to adopt our lifestyle.

[Anonymous No.11354887]

>>11354869
>classifications exist for a reason
Is this just more damage control to justify the already retarded point that being the apex is relevant towards eating meat? Viruses are stronger. Point blank. No debate.

>i didnt set the standards
For this discussion you did

>dude just do it yourself and conform to my biases!!!
Good point

>B12 literally doesn’t
It did in unwashed produce and water that we consumed before sanitation practices, our knuckle dragging ancestors used to practice cophropagia which gave us B12 among many other vitamins
B12 is virtually the only B vitamin you could possibly argue off of and you already fucked that up. I also notice you went from magic meat to “muh b vitamins!!”

Anything else you’d like to embarrass yourself with, fatty?

[Anonymous No.11354892]

>>11354880
That's my main problem: it's a pseudo /pol/ thread where we discusses morals, ethics, religion, or really anything but food and cooking.

[Anonymous No.11354893]

>>11354875
Just get your diaper changed then close the thread

[Anonymous No.11354894]

>>11354406
this is such gay comic dogs are the only animal that goes that goes to heaven.

[Anonymous No.11354899]

>>11354406
Pretty sure 98% of these animals were already dead befor Joe "purchased" them, meaning he killed MAYBE only 2% willingly.

God made us in his image and put animals here on earth to serve us. What is so hard to grasp about that?

[Anonymous No.11354903]

>>11354887
>It did in unwashed produce and water that we consumed before sanitation practices, our knuckle dragging ancestors used to practice cophropagia which gave us B12 among many other vitamins

Google turns up nothing. Source or get the fuck out with your bullshit.

>B12 is virtually the only B vitamin you could possibly argue off of and you already fucked that up. I also notice you went from magic meat to “muh b vitamins!!”

First of all I never said anything about magic meat. I said that meat has various vitamins in abundance that you normally cannot get in plant matter and that is fact. I strengthened that argument by focusing on complex B vitamins and you have just admitted that B12 is a vitamin that you cannot naturally get in a vegan diet.

I'm hardly seeing an argument. Insults don't count as an argument cock gobbler.

[Anonymous No.11354904]

>>11354899
That people unironically worship the demiurge ?

[Anonymous No.11354905]

>>11354721
Without Christ you and our whole western society wouldn' t be here.

Show some respect, cunt.

[Anonymous No.11354907]

>>11354893
They also shit up other actually good threads.

[Anonymous No.11354909]

>>11354611
yes the elephant is the best part

[Anonymous No.11354914]

>>11354905
Europe made christiniaty, not the other way, without pagan influences it would be a religion of poverty ridden middle easterns.

[Anonymous No.11354919]

>>11354887
>parasites are "apex predators"

[Anonymous No.11354933]

>>11354903
>Google said so!!!
Truly an astounding argument. You clearly have spent so much time researching it

Here’s a study on humans eating unwashed produce
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF00007957

>i never said
So are you backpedaling or just a bumbling retard? It’s exactly what you implied then jumped to B vitamins (only B12 actually) which was also quashed instantly. You’re just a fat retard that suckles on Jewgle cock.

[Anonymous No.11354935]

>>11354933
>vitamins are magic meat

[Anonymous No.11354942]

>>11354935
>vitamins dont exist in plants

>B12 only exists where i say it does

[Anonymous No.11354946]

>>11354942
>B12 exists in plants because i say so

[Anonymous No.11354953]

>>11354946
>B12 doesnt exist in soil, water, or feces because it refutes my argument

[Anonymous No.11354959]

(((vitamins)))

[Anonymous No.11354975]

>>11354933

>Truly an astounding argument. You clearly have spent so much time researching it

>Here’s a study on humans eating unwashed produce
>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF00007957

Congratulations your article strengthened my argument. I said that eating meat played a valuable role in our evolutionary progress and that In an empirical measurable way there is more to support meat eating is the answer to transcendence than not.

This article is talking about how we could only get B12 naturally when we had farmed with good fertilizer. Are you trying to suggest that we farmed and fertilized before we evolved?

Human's didn't start farming until after our brain got bigger.

You're so retarded you can't even keep a train of thought in line with your argument in this thread.

Meat played a vital role in our evolutionary transcendence so there is more to support that meat is important to transcendence than not. I pointed that the vitamins found in meat are probably the reason why, specifically B vitamins. You agreed that B12 could not be found in a Vegan source outside of this farming nonsense (which completely misses the point of my initial argument ayway.)

You have failed to produce a counterargument based on the subject at hand and in fact agreed with my supporting point about B12.

What kind of retarded cockjuggler are you?

[Anonymous No.11354986]

>>11354829
>You really aren't all there are you?
>Lol fucking psycopath, ill be sure to reference this line when every carnist gets hunted down and farmed for their meat
sounds like to me anon was right when he said that vegan wanted to butcher carnists

[Anonymous No.11354990]

>>11354437
Nothing MAKES you happy except you. You determine your own happiness. There are things that give you dopamine releases, drugs that get you high, food and entertainment you enjoy, but these are things and things dont affect happiness. Its depressing that people actually confuse happiness with these things because it usually means they've felt so little of it that they can't tell the difference.

[Anonymous No.11354995]

>>11354975
>get evidence that directly contradicts you

>this actually helps me!!!

Lol, you’re not even trying anymore. The study is an example of unwashed produce sustaining B12, it speaks nothing to agriculture, do you think agriculture is the only way for vegetables and soil to exist? Probably.

>you agreed that B12 couldnt be found
I didn’t. This is you in desperate damage control because you have no actual argument for anything your fat retarded ass is blubbering about

Are you going to refute anything ive said or are you just going to rest on your momscience blogs from Google? Yeah? Cool

[Anonymous No.11354998]

>>11354986
Ah yes, the old “pretending” to be autistic and not understanding language. Any other arguments you fat autists have and are willing to actually accept? Because it seems like just sticking your fat fingers in your ears and rejecting reality

[Anonymous No.11355000]

>>11354903
I couldn't naturally eat potatoes either, but thanks to the science of applying heat I'm going to have some fries tonight. Naturalism sucks as some sort of ideal, either in nutrition or in ethics.

We haven't evolved to become elderly shits sponging off the young and healthy parts of society. Yet I would like to do so in relatively good health and naturalism is almost useless for that ... we are fighting evolution and nature, not following it. B12 from a fermentation vat is not somehow lesser than from a ruminant gut.

PS. I'll have some chicken sateh with the fries.

[Anonymous No.11355003]

>>11354747
>>11354425
it's a quote

[Anonymous No.11355012]

>>11354995
>Lol, you’re not even trying anymore. The study is an example of unwashed produce sustaining B12, it speaks nothing to agriculture, do you think agriculture is the only way for vegetables and soil to exist? Probably.

Ok, obviously, you are being purposefully obtuse to the fact that there is no way enough "naturally occurring" fertilized plants gave human beings enough B12 and other important nutrients to evolve. It was meat, this is a fact.

Any anthropologist worth their salt would agree.

http://time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5417583/

https://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/99legacy/6-14-1999a.html

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/foodfeatures/evolution-of-diet/

The complex B vitamin argument was just a rationalization of that fact. Whether or not you want to agree with me it is a fact. You have provided no counterargument because there isn't one.

I win.

Have a nice day trying to cope.

[Anonymous No.11355030]

>>11355012
Your entire trump card is based off the presumption that this fertilizer and only fertilizer as demonstrated in the study is the only source of B12 being able to be introduced into the soil, it isnt. You also continue to ignore the presence of B12 in unwashed waters and the practice of cophrophagia that consumed previously unobtainable B12 extracted from our colons. I wonder why? Can’t possibly be because it destroys your narrative could it?

>this is a fact
It’s not no matter how times you scream it in your padded room, the only evidence you’ve provided of is the similar scream of “GOOGLE!!!!”

I’ve read these articles previously, they show no actual independent variable within meat that illustrates importance, you would know that if you read them and didn’t just spam clickbaity headlines in substitute of

Here’s an actual article demonstrating how cooking which breaks down MORE foods into being far easier to consume, digest, and increase bioavailability of nutrients of is a far better theory “DURRR MEAT!!!l

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/why-fire-makes-us-human-72989884/

>I win
Oh look at the wittle babby trying to wiggle out of an argument because he’s getting BTFO

[Anonymous No.11355035]

>>11354464
Neither do you, it's okay anon don't feel bad.

[Anonymous No.11355036]

>>11355030

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[Anonymous No.11355040]

>>11355036
Dawww wittle babby wants out of the argument

I win :)

[Anonymous No.11355043]

>>11355040

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[Anonymous No.11355044]

>>11355043
Need a diaper change? A bottle? I have soy formula if you want

[Anonymous No.11355048]

>>11355044

Dude I provided 4 sources to your one.

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[Anonymous No.11355049]

>>11354406
The shredded chicks, penned calves and arthritic bees would rather you went vegan

[Anonymous No.11355054]

>>11355048
>he thinks quantity of sources he didn’t even read is substitute for an argument
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.11355064]

>>11355049
You know that bees produce honey regardless right? Same with chickens and eggs.

It's not like they are in some slave Labour conditions being forced to meet outrageous honey quotas

[Anonymous No.11355071]

>>11354412
>Stop letting your emotions dictate your behavior.
What kind of idiot statement is this? The Enlightenment fantasy that people make rational decisions based on their own self-interest has been debunked many times over. It's a wonderful fantasy, but it's not how people behave.

[Anonymous No.11355076]

>>11355054

>Sources from Berkeley, Time, National Georgraphic and NCBI are low quality.

Poor thing is retarded.

Oh and

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[Anonymous No.11355091]

>>11355076
>HE DOESNT KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN QUANTITY AND QUALITY
>HES APPEALING TO AUTHORITY AND AD POPULUM RATHER THAN THE ACTUAL CONTENT

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.11355100]

>HE THINKS FERTILE SOILS ONLY EXIST IN FARMING
>HE DOESNT KNOW WHAT GEOPHAGY AND COPROPHAGY ARE DESPITE PRACTICING BOGH
>HE DIDNT EVEN READ THE CLICKBAIT HE POSTED

[Anonymous No.11355105]

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[Anonymous No.11355109]

>>11355091

CSB;l2Cope

[Anonymous No.11355114]

>>11355076

>Berkeley, Time, National Georgraphic and NCBI are low quality.

Very low quality and often fraudulent

[Anonymous No.11355117]

>>11355114
see
>>11355109

[Anonymous No.11355119]

>>11354406
Vegetarians != vegans

Vegetarians can eat things like eggs and cheese

[Anonymous No.11355122]

>>11355117
Fraudulent Hacks

[Anonymous No.11355124]

>>11355122
see
>>11355109

[Anonymous No.11355127]

>>11354990
I deadass study reward learning brain circuitry and this made my eyes roll all the way back into my head you fucking fakedeep brainlet

[Anonymous No.11355130]

>SOMEONE FROM TIME MAGAZINE SAID SO ITS TRUE!!!

[Anonymous No.11355141]

>>11354406
Death is normal and good and livestock and humans have a symbiotic relationship wherein we raise and protect certain species in great numbers because they provide a benefit to us. If they stop providing us that benefit we'll stop raising and protecting them and they would be forced into near extinction in all likelihood.

[Anonymous No.11355147]

>>11355130
They were right about the global cooling, just 30 years early just like they are right about the global warming, just 30000 years early

[Anonymous No.11355156]

Carnists have officially thrown in the white flag. Make like a good ape and eat shit. It’s got plenty of B12 ;)

[Anonymous No.11355161]

>>11354990
See a therapist

[Anonymous No.11355163]

>>11354406
reminder the bible literally says animals are for us to eat
vegetarianism won't get you into heaven

[Anonymous No.11355170]

>>11355163
Reminder that God is not one person it’s multiple entities collectively known as the Tellurians. Jesus was a werewolf

[Anonymous No.11355171]

>>11355170
Now THAT'S the preachin' I'm talkin' about!!!

[Anonymous No.11355177]

>>11354406

Ive never killed an animal and i eat meat everyday. Suck it veganfags.

[Anonymous No.11355183]

I've eaten thousands of animals but never sheep or humpback whales because lambs are cute and don't taste good and whales are huge and don't taste good am I a bad person?

[Anonymous No.11355186]

>>11354998
If you meant a view of morals based on evolutionary biology permits the killing and consumption of those you disagree with, you're even more retarded than I thought. If you can't see how that would destabilise society and reduce the fitness of its members, I can't help you. You're too far gone.

[Anonymous No.11355192]

>>11355071
>is = should
shiggy diggy doo

[Anonymous No.11355196]

>>11355122
>scientific insights change over time as new evidence is discovered
the horror

[Anonymous No.11355197]

>>11355186
Shut the fuck about sociology its got N O T H I N G to do with the topic

NOTHING

Are you literally autistic you don’t understand the blatant sarcasm in hunting down people and the equivalencies you make with animals then arbitrarily dont with humans? God youre such a driveling fucking mess mushing a hundred different incoherent autistic babble into one post

[Anonymous No.11355214]

>>11355192
It's not something you have control over. You can try to be as rational as you like, but the choices you make will still be determined by emotion. This is why advertising works. It's why people line up behind religion and ideology. It's how you choose your friends and fall in love. None of it's rational. It's all emotional, and pretty easy to manipulate. Sure, you can cling to the idea that YOU make rational decisions so you don't have to face just how manipulated you have been, and will continue to be. But you're lying to yourself.

[Anonymous No.11355264]

>>11355196
>Scientific insights

You think urinalists understand science? How dumb are you?

[Anonymous No.11355292]

>>11355177
you're paying other people to do it though, that makes you an accomplice at the very least

[Anonymous No.11355302]

>>11355197
Pointless name calling isn’t helping your case here.

[Anonymous No.11355309]

>>11355197
>evolutionary biology = sociology
Get fucked, ignoramus. People killing animals and vice-versa isn't a moral issue. Humans aren't superior to animals, nor are they equivalent. All that exists between them is power dynamics. Stop applying morality, which is simply a meme that allows society to function, to animals.

If you still don't understand what I'm saying, just give up on trying to discuss this topic. It's not my fault you lack the mental capacity to comprehend these basic concepts. You also seem to lack understanding of something called "irony" when you call me a sperg, while >>11354771 called me a psychopath for placing morality within the context of evolutionary biology. The whole "hunting down carnists" may have been sarcasm, it may have been a reductio ad absurdum that fell flat, it still is incredibly ironic.

[Anonymous No.11355314]

>>11354406
>tfw vegitarians think the average person eats snakes, frogs, and elephants
Jesus. That brain damage caused by their diet is real.

[Anonymous No.11355318]

>>11354420
Did you keep the skins?

[Anonymous No.11355322]

>>11355044
>>11355040
>immediatly dives into the "daiper-baby" type insults
This is the real reason people won't give up meat: They're terrified of turning into someone like you.

[Anonymous No.11355351]

I like the taste. Animals aren't sapient. Animals don't even comprehend what superior means. If animals become fully aware and articulate, I will consider abstaining from using them as materials.

[Anonymous No.11355391]

>>11355322
Dubs of truth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactance_(psychology)

[Anonymous No.11355409]

>>11354750
I make the decision not to hurt things because they have other mes inside of them. I don't want to hurt myself and so I don't want to hurt other things you braindead shitmuncher.

[Anonymous No.11355419]

>>11355214
It's even worse. The more resistant you believe to be to manipulation, the more susceptable you actually are.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_effect

[Anonymous No.11355433]

>>11355409
>I make the decision not to hurt things because they have other mes inside of them.
No, they don't. That's just your brain trying to rationalise the empathy it experiences, but empathy is just an evolutionary adaptation to living in groups.

[Anonymous No.11355441]

>>11355302
>>11355322
>WAAAAAH HES CALLING ME NAMES DADDY DRUMPF!!!

[Anonymous No.11355449]

>>11355292

You participate in a society that results in the death of millions and billions of people throughout history. Where is the comic implicating you in the death of everyone in the world today, whom you were implicit in the death of because you didnt donate all of your money time or energy in saving?

Thats dumb. Ur dumb. Eat your bacon.

[Anonymous No.11355451]

>>11355351
Thanks descartes.

[Anonymous No.11355457]

>>11355309
>LOL POST MODERNISM NOTHING IS REAL LMAO
Fuck off. You’re now officially backtracking.

>Stop applying it to animals
Mate are you seriously fucked in the head? You just went on about all this bullshit and now you’re going right back to these non-equivalencies. Pick a retarded point and stick to it

Nobody understands what you’re saying because you changing up what you mean by your original statement

>it is still incredibly ironic
Its not. It’s clear sarcasm of your pants on head retarded logical flip flopping

Your clearly no more capable of communicating comprehensible English than a fucking worm, I’d say it’s pretty apt to put you on the level of one at this point. Is it the language barrier between my English and your native Arab?

[Anonymous No.11355462]

What makes an animal's life more important than a plant's life?

[Anonymous No.11355464]

>>11355351
You’re a dumb sheep and don’t comprehend how superior I am to you

[Anonymous No.11355472]

>>11355441
>how to scare people away from becoming vegan and voting democrat in one fell swoop

[Anonymous No.11355474]

>>11355462
Plants are not cute, that's literally the only difference

[Anonymous No.11355488]

Eating another being is inevitable suffering, but feeling bad is worse than doing it.

[Anonymous No.11355490]

>>11355419
>>11355214

Lots of npcs here pretending everyone is as sheeplike as themselves

[Anonymous No.11355499]

>>11355490
>npcs
Using that term illustrates just how heavily you've been manipulated.

[Anonymous No.11355501]

>>11355499
Yeah, Meat portal has more punch.

[Anonymous No.11355505]

>>11355457
You still don't understand the difference between moral apathy towards the relationship between animals and humans, and placing morality within a context of evolutionary biology.

The first dismantles the false dichotomy of human superioroty to animals or human equality to animals.

The second explains morality is just a cultural adaptation that increases the fitness of a society's members. It also explains why applying morality to interactions with animals that don't affect human fitness is pointless.

I really can't explain this any clearer. I'm sorry you weren't smart enough to get a university degree.

[Anonymous No.11355521]

>>11355501
>Meat portal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFsVGsaCvsk

[Anonymous No.11355572]

>>11355472
Democrats and Republicans are all kikes. Fuck government. Ooh i guess that destroys any argument you had im not a Democrat!!!!

>>11355505
How can I understand the difference when you continuously justify one with the other? Because that IS what you’re doing. You can’t explain anything clearly because youre a braindead retard with no graso of what even he is saying

>false dichtomy
This is what you’re doing. The treatment is justifiable because life eats life, we are superior, this is what you’ve said

>ecosystems and diet don’t influence human fitness

Okay. I think i finally understand. Your entire argument is predicated on literally just hoping no one realizes how much of a retarded fedora you are

[Anonymous No.11355884]

>>11355572
I never said we are superior to the animals we eat. We are simply more powerful and we have a desire to eat them, therefore we eat them. Nothing moral about any of this, it's simply how the universe works. Life eats life.

I am not convinced a vegan diet increases fitness by improving health. My relatedness to the people whose fitness will be negatively affected by the ecologic impact of meat consumption isn't high enough to make me care. And any changes in fitness must also be weighed against my personal, subjective enjoyment of eating meat.

My BSc says I'm not retarded, what are your credentials?

[Anonymous No.11356086]

But the animals are already dead by the point I eat them...

[Anonymous No.11356154]

>>11355884
You literally are arguing against your own points at this point. You have been so logically inconsistent and have such a poor grasp of communicating English, it’s all predicated on buzzwords that have importance to the conversation

>we have the ability, therefore it is just
I am not convinced by this :)

>life eats life
Yet again making equivalencies. Life eats life, murderers murder, these are not valid reasons to do them. This is basically the rantings of a sociopath who has no self control or morals

>I am not convinced
What doesn’t convince you? The lack of clogged arteries and tumors?

>i dont care for it, therefore it doesn’t exist
Brilliant argument as usual, buddy. Truly altruistic. You think it doesn’t impact people around you or yourself because of your willful stupidity, therefore it’s irrelevant. You sound very weak minded and inept. Perhaps since i can overpower you and you wouldn’t defend yourself well enough, I should. It’s for altruism after all! You’re harming society.

>if the world is burning, it doesn’t matter if i enjoy it
Psycopathy. Sincerely, seek a therapist, you’d rather be brain numbingly dangerous to yourself and others around out of spite of veganism

>my BsC says im not retarded
Of course not, you demonstrate your stupidity well enough on your own

[Anonymous No.11356157]

>>11356086
You demand the supply of their flesh which necessitates their slaughter.

[Anonymous No.11356175]

>>11356157
No I don't demand it it's waiting on the shelf and no one cares that animals are slaughtered whom the fuck wants to slaughter a cow when it already comes nicely packaged at the store? That would be wasteful

[Anonymous No.11356178]

>>11354406
so did those birds all have make peace with the thousands of insects they each killed or is it just humans that are evil because the artist is a faggot?

[Anonymous No.11356183]

>>11355127
So what's wrong with it then since you study it? Educate us.

[Anonymous No.11356199]

>>11356175
Huh?

[Anonymous No.11356218]

>>11354406
>Spend an eternity with docile animals befriending and petting them
Isn't this supposed to convince me to not kill animals?

[Anonymous No.11356225]

I just want to say. I've been eating less meat these last three months. And it feels really good. I look about 5 years younger. I feel cleaner. I don't feel bloated in the morning or lethargic anymore. I'm also cutting coffee.

And I have a vegan gf now.

Thanks /ck/

[Anonymous No.11356241]

>>11356199
Eat a burger and then read it again

[Anonymous No.11356253]

>>11356241
Just had 4 of these bad boys

[Anonymous No.11356257]

this is the worst thread I've ever seen
insufferable vegan fags just can't help justifying their mental gymnastics to people who don't care

[Anonymous No.11356260]

>>11356257
>make a claim
>it gets disproved
>pffffft i still ain’t going vegan!!!!

Bravo

[Anonymous No.11356270]

>>11356260
>caring about the future of a world where you'll be dead before any of this has any impact

[Anonymous No.11356275]

>>11356260
>Thinks animals are people
Are you retarded son?

[Anonymous No.11356279]

Mentally ill people don't "treat themselves". They steal, rape, and murder.

[Anonymous No.11356284]

everytime you wash your hands, you kill millions of living creatures

washing your hands = genocide

[Anonymous No.11356301]

>>11356270
>it doesn’t matter anyways
Not an argument

>>11356275
Where did I say that, SON? You don’t have to make animals equal to humans, you just don’t make them equal to your fat gluttonous ass

[Anonymous No.11356518]

>>11355071
I'm gonna need a source on those proofs m8.

[Anonymous No.11356527]

>>11356284
Not to mention brushing your teeth or wiping your ass.

[Anonymous No.11356534]

>>11356518
The entire field of Behavioral Economics might be a good start.

[Anonymous No.11356559]

the absolute state of this board lmao

[Anonymous No.11356587]

>>11355071
It's morally preferable. Assuming people are irrational is justification for every evil one can imagine.

[Anonymous No.11356747]

>>11354406
Genesis 9:2-3 ESV:
The fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth and upon every bird of the heavens, upon everything that creeps on the ground and all the fish of the sea. Into your hand they are delivered. Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you. And as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything.

The bible is pretty clear about man’s relationship with animals, so why the fuck would an angel be asking him to make peace with them?
This is pretty retarded, but then again, that’s veganism for you.

[Anonymous No.11356757]

>>11356747
>christkikes

Yikes

[Anonymous No.11356769]

>>11356757
Nah I’m not a kikecuck, but just pointing out that the cartoonist shot himself in the foot, thematically speaking.

[Anonymous No.11356773]

>>11356587
It doesn't justify anything. But it does explain a lot. The biggest being while you'll always be wrong if you expect people to behave in a rational manner.

[Anonymous No.11356826]

>>11356747
Your fairy tale doesn't justify shit, Abraham, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.11356838]

>>11356826
You should really try reading the whole post before replying, you gibbering imbecile.
>vegans being retarded
>must be a day with a y in the name

[Anonymous No.11356843]

>>11356838
Angels didn't look like that neither nor you are needed to apologize to everything you killed, so your logic is autistic and homosexual.

[Anonymous No.11356859]

>>11355127
This post couldn't be any more archetypical posturing roastie if it tried.

[Anonymous No.11356892]

>>11355505
>cultural adaptation that increases the fitness of a society's members
Yes, veganism is the only practical adaptation, along with eliminating petroleum/coal carbon emissions, to ensure the survival and fitness of the human race. Thx for supporting based veganism and rejecting the carnist/abrahamic death cult that's held human transcendency back since the inception of homo sapiens.

[Anonymous No.11357832]

>>11356154
>I am too stupid to entertain systems of morality that differ from my own

Sigh, I am going to try one last time to get through to your puny, uneducated brain.

Step one: morality is just a cultural, evolutionary adaptation that helps humans survive as a group.

Step two: applying morality to interactions with nonhumans or to humans you don't share enough genetic similarity or causal relationships with is untenable.

Step three: feeling empathy towards animals or distantly related humans is normal and healthy. It is also an unproductive evolutionary spandrel. Acting upon this unproductive empathy is irrational.

Step four: humans and animals are neither the moral superior or equal of each other. They simply exist alongside each other and interact according to their nature, amorally.

Step five: the benefits of veganism in healthy, active adults are debatable.

Step six: the effect of meat consumption on the environment mostly affect people I share a low relatedness with. I therefore do not care what happens to them.

Step seven: all of this must be weighed against the pleasure I experience when consuming animal products. Existence is finite and I intend to make the most of it. Inflicting moderate damage to my health and causing the suffering of animals or diatantly related humans is an acceptable price.

[Anonymous No.11357841]

>>11357832
Morality is bullshit. Ethics is the straw you're grasping for.

[Anonymous No.11357842]

>>11356892
The only way to ensure our survival is if we use all our resources towards interstellar travel. And even then there is no escaping the eventual heat death of the universe. Evolution is a process that shaped us, not a god that commands our actions.

[Anonymous No.11357851]

>>11354412
Desiring meat is also an emotion.
>>11355071
There is no self interrest without emotion or feelings. Self interest is doing what feels good, or what indirectly leads to feeling good. Things that people call irrational are actualy often rational choices to maximize pleasure.

[Anonymous No.11357852]

>>11357841
Morals are internal guidelines, ethics are a proscribed code of conduct. Both are products of cultural evolution.

[Anonymous No.11357857]

>>11354541
>irrational
Oh you poor sweet child.

[Anonymous No.11357866]

>>11355309
>Stop applying morality, which is simply a meme that allows society to function, to animals.
Callousness and cruelty to animals does tie in to how people treat humans as well, serial killers start with animal torture and all that.

If the felicity of society is what you want to build a moral framework on a good case can be made for veganism.

[Anonymous No.11358000]

>>11354406
Do you have to make peace with the trillions of bacteria and viruses that your white blood cell kills for you? That might take a while.

[Anonymous No.11358005]

>>11357857
>calling people children on the internet ironically

[Anonymous No.11358013]

>>11357842
>it's another Muskbabby who thinks SPESSS will save him

[Anonymous No.11358043]

>>11357857
okay, now this is EPIC

[Anonymous No.11358056]

>>11354406
Honestly I don’t really subscribe to vegetarian ideals but I’ll be damned if it isn’t easier to cook vegetarian than it is to cook meat. Tofu is just so easy. Meat takes so much cleaning and prep. I love meat but when I’m living on my own I eat mostly veg aside from going out

[Anonymous No.11358083]

>>11357866

>cruelty to animals

Geez friend that's illegal. Why are you not reporting it? Cmon it's for the animals don't be lazy

[Anonymous No.11358111]

>>11354406
>all these newfags getting triggered by Perry Bible Fellowship
If you weren't such fucking newniggers, you'd know that PBFcomics has always been all about shits and giggles. It's hilarious to think that the very comic who introduced Skub is the cause of so many knee-jerk reactions.

[Anonymous No.11358535]

>>11358111
honestly, it's depressing. I'm not sure how anyone can look at this comic and believe in earnest that it's intended to be vegan propaganda.

[Anonymous No.11358540]

>>11354738
I’m not the one ripping out and devouring plants that produce the oxygen that most life on earth need to survive anon

[Anonymous No.11358572]

>>11357866
A modicum of callousness a d cruelty is necessary. A soft, weepy society will be crushed by a society that's harder. Look at the current invasion of Europe.

[Anonymous No.11358573]

>>11358013
>our sun will live forever

[Anonymous No.11358580]

>>11358013
You didn't read past the first sentence did you? Nothing can save us from the inevitable heat death of the universe.

[Anonymous No.11358583]

>>11358540
Become a fruitarian then.

[Anonymous No.11358612]

>>11354406
>Seagulls

Wait what

[Anonymous No.11358621]

>>11354406
False flag vegan atack

[Anonymous No.11358667]

>>11354406
>people on 4chan are being unironically offended by pbf comics

Worst timeline

[Anonymous No.11358701]

>>11358612
Gulls are assholes. I'm not surprised he killed a few.

[Anonymous No.11358912]

>>11354406
This is retarded, animals don't have spirits like humans do unless you believe in some fucking gay Protestant mall-church Christianity.

[Anonymous No.11358914]

>>11354428
He could have also been really bad at owning pets. RIP froggy, snakey, turtle and fishes

[Anonymous No.11358993]

>>11354626
>if you're not alt-right, you must be an sjw
it's typical for SJWs to hijack any thread and try making it about their hardly-related subject.