/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.11157566]

/ck/ is a vegan board

[Anonymous No.11157653]

>>11157566
nah

[Anonymous No.11157658]

>>11157566
Stop being lazy and make better bait 0/10

[Anonymous No.11157663]

>>11157566
>eating literal bird food
haha good one

[Anonymous No.11157675]

>>11157566
Whelp, dubs confirms it

[Anonymous No.11157704]

>>11157566
Nice cutting board
Huh

[Anonymous No.11157708]

Let's talk about the heart of this vegan issue sometime

[Anonymous No.11157715]

Funny coincidence. I'm trying out Beyond Burger right now. To be honest, I didn't expect it to be this good. This actually tastes like meat.

[Anonymous No.11157717]

Vegan you say

[Anonymous No.11157728]

>>11157566
chik pee so good
mmm
yum

[Anonymous No.11157729]

This isn't the same as local and fresh is it

[Anonymous No.11157735]

>>11157708
ITS FUCKING RAW

[Anonymous No.11157748]

What would make for a savory morsel in the vegan table
Shit on tofu
Massive shit on highly processed anything

[Anonymous No.11157751]

>>11157566
Nope.

[Anonymous No.11157753]

>>11157735
Consider it a carpaccio
All good

[Anonymous No.11157790]

>>11157566
Literally everything in that dish grown by monoculture ag and shipped 3000 miles using petrochemicals(a *gasp* animal byproduct) to satsfy your childish whim. Either hunt, grow and forage locally or stfu.

[Anonymous No.11157822]

>>11157790
Wow
So much to read
Disqualified from being a quality post

[Anonymous No.11157948]

>>11157822
Literally 2 sentences, the same as your post.

[Anonymous No.11158405]

>"buy some nutritional yeast, it tastes like cheese"
it tastes nothing like cheese

[Anonymous No.11158415]

>>11158405
Balding is rapidly increased by eating unhealthy

[Anonymous No.11158420]

>>11157790
>waaaah stop guilting me

[Anonymous No.11158512]

>>11157748

what is this?

[Anonymous No.11158567]

That looks atrocious. I can't wait until our mandated vegan and laboratory made meat diets in 2030

[Anonymous No.11158593]

>>11158420
or a vegans reaction to telling them that their out of season produce from the global south relies on exploitative labour practices, can have negative impacts on the local diets ad availablities of traditional crops, and are often products of the same huge conglomorates which also sell meat which means their money still goes into the meat industry weather they buy it or not


or that the coke they put in their "temple' bodies on weekends fuels nightmares narco terrorism
no ethical consumption under capitalism so why torture yourself or others

[Anonymous No.11158595]

>>11157663
vegans aren't human after all.

[Anonymous No.11158597]

>>11158593
Fuck off, commie scum. You're not welcome here.

[Anonymous No.11158860]

>Veganism is more nutritious and good for you
>Vegans are nutrient deficient because of bioavailability
>"How veganism cured my depression"
>"How veganism made me depressed"
>Veganism cuts 50% of your carbon footprint
>Veganism only has a slightly lower carbon footprint and comes with unneccessary deforestation vs local produce
>This thing I bought tastes just like meat and I can't tell the difference
>I just bought this fake meat that tastes like cardboard dogshit
I don't know what to believe any more. Veganism is either the best dietary choice ever or a giant scam, and there's no general consensus as to which.
What do I even get bloodwork for? There are so many things to test; what am I at risk of and need testing for as a vegan?

[Anonymous No.11158972]

>>11157566
did your wife's bull told you that?

[Anonymous No.11159030]

>>11158860
>Veganism is more nutritious and good for you
>Vegans are nutrient deficient because of bioavailability
when you take b12 pills you have no problem with nutrients. lifestock gets b12 enriched food so meat eaters arent getting it on natural way too.
>"How veganism cured my depression"
>"How veganism made me depressed"
its just about what you think about it. when you are anti vegan, have no empathy for animals and just try vegan food because friends/family forces you or to proof how unedible it is you will not be happy with it.
when you are the opposide you will get your inner peace.
>Veganism cuts 50% of your carbon footprint
>Veganism only has a slightly lower carbon footprint and comes with unneccessary deforestation vs local produce
the most deforestation for soy is because its used as animal food. when you only eat exotic fruits it will not be much better than eating a steak sometimes.
>This thing I bought tastes just like meat and I can't tell the difference
>I just bought this fake meat that tastes like cardboard dogshit
there are many products, tastes are different, and when you want it to taste good/bad it can make a huge difference.

neither veganism or "normal" are perfect. its all about how you handle it.

[Anonymous No.11159232]

>>11159030
>lifestock gets b12 enriched food so meat eaters arent getting it on natural way too
so what you mean is that before modern supplements nobody was getting vitamin b12?

[Anonymous No.11159323]

>>11159232
before modern farming methods the plants the livestock ate had b12. today the soil has not enough nutrients so they need to supplement

[Anonymous No.11159328]

K

[Anonymous No.11159336]

>>11159232
He means go eat grass fed locally farmed meat

[Anonymous No.11159362]

>>11159323
>plants had b12
Yes, but in extremely small practically unobtainable amounts. You would have to eat literal truckloads of plants in order to get your needed B12, or you could just eat one third of a liver and you're good.

[Friendly Neighborhood Carnivor(...) No.11159368]

Been there, done that, got my t-shirt, yoga mat, and mental health diagnosis. I don't miss trying to choke down horrendous green smoothies only to piss green out my ass inside of half an hour. It's such a literal pain in the ass running on fiber and glucose and toxic refined oils, having to prepare huge quantities of plant food several times a day just to keep my blood sugar stable enough to function. Your weaponized ideology induces manic bipolarity and "spiritual" psychoses by starving the body of vital raw materials, forcing it to cannibalize, which disrupts homeostasis and accelerates aging.

Elites historically ate meat (including human) while the slaves were fed bread, fruits, and veg. Smarter, better, faster, and stronger were the alpha wolves, while the goyim (cattle) tilled the fields, which kept us busy and stupid. Agri-cult-ure is the root of our enslavement to the cabal. Even before religion. It's plants vs zombies out there.

I cook once a day for less than 10 minutes, I'm healthier and happier than you, and I don't require supplements or blood tests. Do alpha wolves in perfect shape need a doctor? Running on ketones makes hunger much easier to deal with. It's a subtle feeling of "time to eat" rather than physical pangs of "CARBAGE NOW"! While I'd never deliberately deprive myself of food like I used to when I was a brainwashed and neurotic fool, I could much more easily go for days without eating since becoming fat adapted. The waters of nutritional science are deliberately muddied by politically-funded charlatans to subvert people.

Sugarfed beta sheeple can't activate alpha wolfmode until they realize they are addicted to brain and body-rotting sugar. Ketogenic diets are a step in the right direction, but horribly misguided by protein-phobia and totally unnecessary reliance on plants and oils full of natural toxic antinutrients. This is where oxidative stress comes from.

It's all here. Make the alpha badass choice.

justmeat.co

[Anonymous No.11159373]

>>11159362
Read more carefully before you respond to posts.

[Anonymous No.11159380]

>>11159336
Meat fed locally farmed grass*

[Anonymous No.11159385]

>>11159323
i guess that's a problem in america. in my country i've never heard of anyone who uses b-12 supplements, so i guess our soil has enough b12 for now.

[Anonymous No.11159389]

Why do people just talk about meat when talking about B12?

Eat a couple of based clams and that's it

[Friendly Neighborhood Carnivor(...) No.11159405]

>>11159323
Are you retarded? Check WIKIPEDIA before you speak about b12 again. The only organisms to produce vitamin B12 are certain bacteria, and archaea. Some of these bacteria are found in the soil around the grasses that ruminants eat; they are taken into the animal, proliferate, form part of their gut flora, and continue to produce vitamin B12. That cow is a vitamin B12 MACHINE, dawg, thanks to the homies under the hood. Only minute amounts from the soil are enough to proliferate in a healthy ruminant microbiome. If I had 4 stomachs I'd chew cellulose because I'd be able to turn it into delicious, nutritious protein and fat thanks to my herbivorous bacterial biome and digestive equipment. I am however glad to be an apex predator because it's way more efficient not having to chew on plants all fucking day. The animals do it so I don't have to. And I'm grateful for it! It's like hardware and software. Humans are optimized for carnivorous bacterial biomes, not herbivorous or omnivorous. Humans are the only species dumb enough to eat the wrong damn food and induce metabolic disorders like cancer and diabetes and alzheimers via carbage.

[Friendly Neighborhood Carnivor(...) No.11159487]

Personal Benefits of Carnivory:
>improved mood
>improved cognitive performance
>improved skin
>improved hair
>no fluoride toothpaste or petrochemical soap required
>gained inches of muscle on my forearms and biceps
>lost inches of fat around my waist and thighs
>clothes now fit properly, down to a 32 from 38 and M from XL at 5'10
>cured gynecomastia
>cured bipolar disorder
>beta sheep no more
>alpha wolfmode confidence

It's not necessarily about weight loss, it's more about a change in body composition. I've only lost 15lbs but I'm so much leaner, meaner, and cleaner than ever before. And I haven't lifted anything heavier than my dick, basically just sitting on my ass eating mostly red meat and drinking water since April. Everything you know about food is a goddamn lie. Red meat has the best nutrition profile of any meat. Saturated animal fat is the human body's preferred primary fuel source. Contrary to popular belief, carbohydrates are not an essential macronutrient. Fiber destroys your colon. Without a foul miasma of sugar and indigestible plant matter impeding digestion, most of the protein and fat gets completely absorbed before ever reaching the colon. Whatever waste does come out is always quick and painless, although adaptation was rough. When all the shitty sugar-eating bacterial tenants like candida get evicted, they don't leave without toilet trouble. The end result is a healthy gut biome with very strong serotonin production. It's a natural high like nothing else.

[Anonymous No.11159497]

>>11159405
ruminants can produce b12 and make use of it, yes.
still stressed, pregnant/ dairy cows have a big need for b12 so its helpful to substitute some.
also antibiotics, which are used at livestock can
reduce the absorption ammont.

pigs,chicken and yeah even humans produce b12 but cant absorb it because its at the end of the intestine. so those need to eat b12 sustainably food.
even meat eaters can have b12 shortage.

[Anonymous No.11159526]

>>11159497
>even meat eaters can have b12 shortage.
Yes, if they don't know what to eat

[Anonymous No.11159906]

>>11159030
>lifestock gets b12 enriched food
Yeah, it's called grass, the kind that grows in fields, not the kind you grow in your moms basement. The bits of root they eat when cows pull up the grass has huge amounts of b12 produced by microorganisms in the soil.

[Anonymous No.11159908]

>>11159497
>even meat eaters can have b12 shortage.
Only if they dont eat much meat. I'm amused thst you think this is an argument in favor of veganism.

[Anonymous No.11159924]

>>11158860
>>11159030
>Veganism is more nutritious and good for you
>Vegans are nutrient deficient because of bioavailability
Plant sources of vitamins have low bioavailability or are in forms that you can't absorb at all and there are very few plant sources sources of omega 3's. Unless your diet is 99% beans and flax seed you're going to be lacking protein and omega 3. The fact that factory farmed livestock need supplemented b12 is irrelevant.
>"How veganism cured my depression"
>"How veganism made me depressed"
Nutrient deficiencies combined with tasteless food WILL make you depressed.
>Veganism cuts 50% of your carbon footprint
>Veganism only has a slightly lower carbon footprint and comes with unneccessary deforestation vs local produce
California uses ridiculous amounts of water making meme produce for hipsters.
>This thing I bought tastes just like meat and I can't tell the difference
>I just bought this fake meat that tastes like cardboard dogshit
Anyone who says the former is delusional.

[Anonymous No.11160109]

>>11159906
Don't cows pretty much just eat subsidized corn these days?

[Anonymous No.11160133]

>>11160109
Not in the US afaik. It's much more cost effective to let them graze on grass for most of their life. They dont get corn until a month or so before slaughter; that is done to fatten them up and develop the marbling. This may be different in Europe where land is enough at a premium to change the cost structure.

[Anonymous No.11160160]

>>11159389
Or 3 eggs a day. No problem with that.
You don't need to hunt or kill a chicken to get eggs.

[Anonymous No.11160300]

>>11157715
I want to give that a try, pretty curious and ive heard good things.

[Anonymous No.11160417]

>>11160133
>It's much more cost effective to let them graze on grass for most of their life

not in conventionally farming methods. the space one cow has is barely enough to turn around. a cow needs more grass than what could fit in such a small space...they get cheap high energy food.

[Anonymous No.11160433]

>>11157566
Sure is V

[Anonymous No.11160442]

>>11157566
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[Anonymous No.11160467]

>>11159924
>Unless your diet is 99% beans and flax seed you're going to be lacking protein

2018 and people still sayYoU cAn'T gEt pRotEIn oN vEGaN DiEt?

You can eat pretty much whatever as long as it is not same thing all day, maybe with 1 legume meal and some nuts as snacks and get 1g protein/kg of bodyweight with all essential aminoacids. Thats all you need if you are a normal person.

Maybe if you are bodybuilding or whatever you have to look for more sources

[Anonymous No.11160482]

>>11160467
He's not saying YoU cAn'T gEt pRotEIn oN vEGaN DiEt but that you probably won't be getting enough, which is true. Legumes only have 1/3 the protein of meat/cheese. I'd have to eat like 2 lbs of lentils a day to get enough protein.

[Anonymous No.11160485]

>>11157566
no.

furthermore, i dated a vegan girl for 2+ years. it's a mental illness.

[Anonymous No.11160490]

>>11160433
>cashews
>mushrooms
>AND black olives
like i said. mental illness.

[Anonymous No.11160492]

>>11160485
>it's a mental illness.
It's not really, it's just a misguided attempt at fixing problems with modern animal farming. I mean sure some people have some kind of aversion to meat more than they actually care about the animals, but modern factory farming has a lot of issues. Reducing your intake, minimizing waste, supporting better sources, and supporting the development of lab-grown meat is a better way to deal with these issues though.

[Anonymous No.11160493]

I love vegans but I couldn't eat a whole one.

[Anonymous No.11160526]

>>11158860
Veganism cures depression in that you no longer have the mental capacity to perceive your existence and experience the "holier than thou" endorphins when you low key criticize all of your friend's dietary choices.

[Anonymous No.11160592]

>>11157566
great, thanks for posting

[Anonymous No.11160593]

>>11159924
>Unless your diet is 99% beans and flax seed you're going to be lacking protein

I can’t even imagine how much of a fat stupid shit you are to even think this. There are straw huts in burma that eat as much meat as a vegan and have zero protein issues. This is literally broscience the boogeyman

Omega 3s are really an issue for anyone not eating fish. Ratio is very important as well as quantity.

>the fact livestock need b12 is irrelevant Not even attempting damage control

>California uses ridiculous amounts of water
For livestock

What a miserable idiotic existence you must have

[Anonymous No.11160597]

>>11158860
just give it a try and dive in, its great

[Anonymous No.11160603]

>>11160597
>85% of vegans give it up after 3 years
it is great until the medical problems start in 2-3 years. then you'll just go back to eating meat like a normal person.

[Anonymous No.11160604]

>>11159924
you are full of shit

[Anonymous No.11160609]

>>11160603
if you dont watch your diet then you can have problems. If you are not an idiot and go to the blood tests, you are fine...as long as your will is

[Anonymous No.11160612]

>>11157566
Looks fine to me, except those nasty slices of radishes, they don't belong there. In fact, they don't belong anywhere.

[Anonymous No.11160617]

>>11160609
>mandatory blood tests
kek. healthy lifestyle choice.

[Anonymous No.11160624]

>>11160617
better safe than sorry, it was great for me to see that results are ok, next year i will go to tests again

[evita No.11160643]

>>11157566
that dish will be delicious after i feed it to a cow and get it organically converter into real protein rich MEAT

[Anonymous No.11160645]

>>11160624
>veganism isn't a jewish plot
good luck with those tests.

[Anonymous No.11160649]

>>11160609
What a compelling endorsement of your cult of choice. Please tell me more about the steps you have to take to ensure it doesn't kill you prematurely, and how virtuous this makes you feel.

[evita No.11160712]

>>11160612
radishes are actually very useful I grow them in my smallholding as a sacrificial crop. all the jumping beetles and other pests immediately leave the neighbouring Rows Love Actually edible veg and jump straight onto the radishes chewing them to fuck

[Anonymous No.11160747]

>>11160645
meatcuck

[Anonymous No.11160850]

>>11160712
phoneposters are the cancer killing /ck/

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[Anonymous No.11161734]

>>11160603
Source that isn't icanhazchzbrgr? I've seen one article list a source and this was the source lmao

[Anonymous No.11161759]

>>11160109
In the US around half is range fed before fattening AFAIK. The rest probably most just gets whatever is cheapest at the time with a decent nutritional profile, some corn waste, some silage etc.

[Anonymous No.11162507]

>>11157715
>>11160300
i tried one a few weeks ago. its pretty good honestly. i eat vegetarian/vegan food all the time, but i eat meat too.

anyways, tastes great, but too expensive at $2 more than the actual beef/turkey burgers they had on their menu.

[Anonymous No.11162943]

>>11160490

[Anonymous No.11162948]

>>11160490
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[Anonymous No.11162957]

>>11160490
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[Anonymous No.11162975]

>>11157790

https://peakoildebunked.blogspot.com/2009/10/426-local-food-guzzles-more-fuel-than.html

[Anonymous No.11162983]

>>11162957
>fruitarian
lol

[Anonymous No.11162993]

>>11162975
>https://peakoildebunked.blogspot.com

[Anonymous No.11163031]

>>11157717
I just watched porn for the last 5 hours and my dick is raw at the moment but this is the fucking hottest thing I've seen today. I wish I could go another round...

[Anonymous No.11163097]

>>11162983
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[evita No.11163317]

>>11160850
enjoy sucking gates cock with your mcrib sauce

[Anonymous No.11163353]

>>11162983
Let them die like steve jobs

[Friendly Neighborhood Carnivor(...) No.11163562]

https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/diagnosis-diet/201709/the-vegan-brain