Fruits are NOT VEGAN

[Anonymous No.11040014]

Remind me why VEGANS think it’s ok to eat FRUITS again? Fruits are ALIVE with FEELINGS and they are BABIES and will grow into ADULTS if you just give them a chance instead of KILLING them like a CARNIST.

So much for ETHICAL CONSISTENCY!

[Anonymous No.11040024]

>>11040014
You must be 18+ to come here

[Anonymous No.11040036]

Might as well use this bait thread for a question, it's bugging me quite a lot. Are there people stupid enough to believe this to the point where they won't eat meat AND plants? Do they exist? I feel like there are people like this out there. I also want to know wtf would they eat, synthetic food?

[Anonymous No.11040070]

>>11040014
I know this is bait, but there are actual people who identify as fruitarian. The logic is that fruits are evolutionary structures on the plant that are meant to be consumed by design. As a matter of fact, many seeds require passage through a specific type of herbivore's entrails before it can germinate. In some cases, this is to ensure seed dispersal (birds for example), or that it gets a nice bed of nutritious fertilizer to give it a competitive edge (ungulates). The people going by this logic would draw the line at eating even seeds, which is retarded even by veganism standards. I'm sure some of the mentally ill people who abide by such a restrictive diet have other rituals, like insuring they cultivate the plant or something after

Us not eating fruit is as absurd as a bee not taking nectar from a nectary that only it can pollinate. Every economically important crop that exists today is more or less reliant on us for cultivation and proliferation. But however you argue it, fruits are MEANT to be eaten.

[Anonymous No.11040102]

>>11040036
Theoretically, many nutrients and minerals are available from non-living or naturally deceased sources. You can live for weeks or even months off of nothing but salt and water.

But nobody is so stupid. For example, assuming you only ate plants that weren't "harmed" by you eating them, there would still be plenty of choices out there. Many plants are annuals, meaning they fucking die after blooming. Typically, they produce so many seeds that the majority will just simply rot into the ground anyway, and thus be consumed by something. Why would it be any more immoral to harvest the seeds that are just gonna be food for bacteria and worms, and not serve the organism that made them, and eat them myself? What about squeezing olives for the oil, and planting the pits? Is that immoral?

I'm a meat eater, but trying to reductio ad absurdum veganism won't work, because there are so many foods that you can't argue are immoral to eat. Maybe you could argue cultivating an olive grove is impacting the environment, but seeing as fuck all would be growing there otherwise, I think it's a fair trade.

[Anonymous No.11040110]

fungus and bacteria have been, are, and continue to be the murdering bastards of this green Earth

[Anonymous No.11040112]

>>11040036
Jains won't eat plants that have to be killed for consumption, that's the closest to what you're asking. I don't think anyone can survive on bacteria and yeast or anything like that yet.

[Anonymous No.11040128]

>>11040112
Yeah, I was about to say this about Jains. Stuff like root vegetables and onions and garlic are all out because you must kill the plant to get them and they seriously won't even kill a plant to eat. They also won't kill insects and only cook during the day and cover all liquids to avoid accidentally killing any, that's how deep the whole non-violence thing is to them.

[Anonymous No.11040147]

>>11040128
I don't know how that works exactly because you can harvest a potato or garlic or an onion and cut off 90% of it but still use the last part of it to grow a new plant, so it's not really killing.

[Anonymous No.11040154]

>>11040128
fucking faggots sure know how to kill the mood at a cookout though

[Anonymous No.11040161]

Has there ever been a non ironic vegan cooking thread here where it's not just endless shitposting about whether or not a vegan diet is healthy or shit or the right ethical thing to do, i.e., shit that's basically unrelated to actual cooking?

[Anonymous No.11040166]

I fuck apples to death ama

[Anonymous No.11040179]

>>11040014
(Most)Fruits and plants don't consume massive amounts water, concentrate politants and pathogens in their flesh and then put out millions of tonnes of green house gases whilst taking up 5 times the calorie per achrere energy density.

This summer is pretty hot desu.

[Anonymous No.11040180]

>>11040161
No. Vegan food is fine. Vegans proselytizers are the problem.

[Anonymous No.11040186]

>>11040147
This. You can't apply animal morality to plants.

If you chop down a aspen tree, so what? There's hundreds of the same genetic individual, all connected. It is essentially like giving a human being a nasty papercut.

[Anonymous No.11040268]

>>11040102
>reductio ad absurdum
This nigga casten spells and shit

[Anonymous No.11041464]

>>11040014
ALIEN - The Vegan Cut

That is a subtly horrifying photo.

[Anonymous No.11041469]

>>11040014
I'm not vegan, but kill yourself

[Anonymous No.11041488]

>>11041469
>I'm not vegan, I just get irrationally upset when people make jokes about my- I mean A diet

[Anonymous No.11041495]

>>11040147
Because that's like saying if you kill a pregnant animal, but slice the baby out of the belly, it's not really killing. You killed the plant to eat it.

[Anonymous No.11041607]

>>11040014

[Anonymous No.11042091]

>>11040268
Literally the only thing I could think about when reading the post.

[Anonymous No.11042101]

this thread was made, deleted, then made again

[Anonymous No.11042430]

>>11040014
Op is woke, I only eat Haitian mud cakes to avoid this

[Anonymous No.11042436]

>>11040036
Well there's breatharians or whatever so yes

[Anonymous No.11042986]

>>11040102
>But nobody is so stupid.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia
"Breatharians claim that food, and in some cases water, are not necessary for survival, and that humans can be sustained solely by prana, the vital life force in Hinduism. According to Ayurveda, sunlight is one of the main sources of prana, and some practitioners believe that it is possible for a person to survive on sunlight alone."

[Anonymous No.11043011]

>>11041464
Google "vivipary."

[Anonymous No.11043021]

>>11041495
Nah, it's more like saying it's okay to eat beef if you just carve a chunk out of the side of a cow without killing it. It's just that plants can survive a bigger chunk being taken out/off.

[Anonymous No.11043781]

>>11043011
Can this be a vivipary thread now?

[Anonymous No.11043796]

>>11043781

[Anonymous No.11043806]

>>11043796

[Anonymous No.11043961]

>>11040110
t. retard.

[Anonymous No.11044090]

>>11043961
I have an undergrad in biology and a masters in dietetics, I promise you 100% that the comment was on the nose

[Anonymous No.11044368]

feelings are about a nervous system that makes you conscious.

[Anonymous No.11045855]

I'm vegan

[Anonymous No.11046823]

>>11044090
then what about all the mycorrhiza that are needed for like 80% of all plants?

[Anonymous No.11046828]

>>11046823
Mycorrhizae are symbiotic and will die without the plant's to live off of. The vast majority of bacteria and fungi are of parasitic or predatory nature.

[Anonymous No.11046859]

>>11046828
>off of

[Anonymous No.11046867]

>>11044368
plants have nervous systems too, nervous systems are just chemical response pathways to stimuli

[Anonymous No.11047086]

>>11040161
Veganism is an ideology, not a cooking style.

[Anonymous No.11047104]

>>11040102
>But nobody is so stupid
Jains are.Very strict Jains won't eat anything that causes the death of even a plant. So no root veg, for example, since pulling those up and eating the root kills the plant. They won't eat anything fermented, since those contain tons of tiny organisms.They even don't eat food that has been stored overnight, since these will contain more tiny organisms.

Imagine having to eat like that.
>full vegan
>but also no plants where harvesting it kills the plant
>and nothing fermented
>or even stored overnight

[Anonymous No.11047241]

>>11040014
That makes no sense. Fruits are the MOST vegan thing. Plants just drop them for eating and seeding the soil. Vegetable are the actual plant's body.

Did you know plants can scream in anticipation of danger?

[Anonymous No.11047251]

>>11040070
>I'm sure some of the mentally ill people who abide by such a restrictive diet have other rituals, like insuring they cultivate the plant or something after

I think I'm mentally ill...This is the sort of stuff I think about from time to time. Although I still eat meat and stuff because I don't want to be unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.11047265]

>>11042986
>mfw this has been scientifically proven to work for some people
>for months (in the lab, observed) and years

[Anonymous No.11047277]

>>11046859