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10922121 No.10922121 [Reply] [Original]

How did people in the old days get fat when there was no fast food?

>> No.10922130

Fat people in the old days tended to come from wealthy families who could afford abundance of food. Doesnt have to be fast food to get fat, you just have to have a lot of it.

>> No.10922134

Because some people were still fatasses and ate more than they worked out, especially if they had something nice like a bank job

>> No.10922145

>>10922121
he is thin by modern American standards.

>> No.10922155
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But there weren’t that many of them, they were a rare view, that’s why many worked as spectacles or actors.

>> No.10922164

>>10922121
alcohol

>> No.10922171

>>10922130
Just like ya BOI Edvard

>> No.10922195

>>10922121
The same way they do today: constant snacking. Fat people don't go without food for hours like the healthy.

>> No.10922196

>>10922155
Maybe hats kept people thin!?!

>> No.10922219

>>10922196
Or poverty

>> No.10922222

>>10922121
an excess of calories?

>> No.10922227

>>10922222
based

>> No.10922237

>>10922219
It’s America of course everyone is stricken with poverty.

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It was the opposite of today (well except for some everyone could name) - the rich were fat and the the middle class and poor were thin.

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>>10922222
Digits logged

>> No.10922271

>>10922261
Nowadays poor people can afford an abundance of cheap unhealthy food so theyre fat and richer people can afford fresh produce which keeps them thin. Although there are fat rich people nowadays too, while they may be rich that doesnt necessarily mean theyre smart enough to not get fat. But for the most part its a complete reversal.

>> No.10922280

>>10922219
If they were poor why would they waste money on hats?

>> No.10922290

>>10922195
This pretty much. They eat when they aren't hungry, or stuff themselves every time they feel any hunger at all.

>> No.10922306

>>10922280
Perhaps they are poor because they wasted money on hats.

>> No.10922313

>>10922280
Everyone wore hats then, i doubt they were expensive items. They probably put their clothes above food. Much like keeping up with the joneses type of thing, want people to think youre higher up the social ladder than you actually are.

>> No.10922315

>>10922222
witnessed

>> No.10922316

>>10922130
most accurate of all responses

>> No.10922350
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>>10922222
CICO ftw

>> No.10922405

>>10922121
Roast pheasant basted with butter with stuffing
wild mushroom gravy
buttermilk biscuits
pan roasted potatoes
asparagus with diced ham in butter
devilled eggs
roasted cauliflower in bechemel sauce
thick sliced bacon
fried pork skins
green bean cassarole
sweet cranberry relish
one whole pecan pie with whipped cream
coffee with sugar and cream
And that's just lunch, supper is at 4 and dinner at 8. Back when the women had nothing to do but cook all dag

>> No.10922423

>>10922280
Someone has never been in line at the grocery behind LaTitia while she's talking on speaker on her brand new iPhone, paying with food stamps.

>> No.10922433

>>10922271
>richer people can afford fresh produce which keeps them thin
I hate this meme for so many reasons, 2 of which are that frozen/canned goods are cheap as shit, and secondly you live either in a city with weekly farmers markets or in a rural area where you grow it yourself. People are fat because they are stupid, no exceptions - I have yet to meet a fat person who can think their way out of a cardboard box.

>> No.10922439
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>>10922433

>> No.10922469

>>10922439
Drinking yourself to obesity is stupid anon, even if he was a brilliant leader.

>> No.10922501

>>10922439
If you think Churchill was anything but an alcoholic figurehead for the British military and government agencies, then I have bad news for you.

>> No.10922507
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>>10922433
>>10922469
>>10922501

>> No.10922521

>>10922507
>>Newell is also a fan of the animated series My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic.[21]

Yep, retard confirmed. The fat should have been enough to clue me in, but nooo I had to dig deeper.

>> No.10922523

>>10922130
>Fat people in the old days tended to come from wealthy families who could afford abundance of food.
This is true, but your average farm family still had an abundance of food. People consumed over 3000 calories on a daily basis back then because they burned it off with hard physical labor. Rich people got fat by eating the same amount of calories as everybody else, but not doing the physical labor because they didn't have to.

>> No.10922534

>>10922523
>People consumed over 3000 calories on a daily basis back then because they burned it off with hard physical labor

Perhaps anon should have said "excess" not "abundance".

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>>10922121

>> No.10922582

>>10922501
>leadership during the Battle of Britain destroyed the Luftwaffe
>ordered Dresden to be fire bombed to ruins
>tacit policy of shoot on sight for SS officers
>actively encouraged the use of atomic weapons against Japan
>campaigned for liberal application of the death penalty at Nuremberg
Churchill righted a lot of wrongs.

>> No.10922652

>>10922575
That guy in grey looks like a fat version of Strother Martin.

>> No.10922665
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>>10922575
I see 2 high IQ serial killers and 3 low IQ serial killers in that photo.

>> No.10922669

>>10922582
Churchill was an egomaniac and a drunk. If he would have worked with Germany rather than getting involved in a prick waving dick fight, we would be in a better world right now.

>> No.10922675

>>10922652
Guy to camera left of him reminded me of the charming fellow at 2:15 in this
https://youtu.be/IXfrZ53J1Io?t=2m15s

>> No.10922687

>>10922669
Lol you're retarded.

>> No.10922692

>>10922669
Except Germany didn't want to work with anyone

>> No.10922704

>>10922687
you are british... same or worse than being retarded.

>> No.10922710

>>10922121
Gluttony

>> No.10922712

>>10922704
>Work with a guy who has broken every agreement he ever made

BTW anon I've got some fine oceanfront property in Arizona for sale, are you interested?

>> No.10922744

>>10922710
to be fair, isn't that why there's still fatties today though?

>> No.10922763

>>10922692
Eh... you are just flat out wrong on that. They even worked with the jews to get them out of Germany early on. They would not leave.

>> No.10922772

>>10922712
You mean Churchill right?

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>>10922710

>> No.10922779

>>10922280
If you wear a hat you don't have to take care of your hair. Many of these people lived in extreme poverty, couldn't wash often, and had lice etc

>> No.10922786

>>10922772
You realize Churchill wasn't elected prime minister until a year after the war started, right?

>> No.10922789

>>10922786
So what? He was still a loud, fart huffing knowitall fuckhead

>> No.10922793

>>10922261
>While he was in the Philippines, disturbing reports about his health caused Secretary of War Root to send a cabled inquiry. Taft cabled back that he was perfectly all right -- he had just
finished a twenty-five-mile horseback ride and was feeling fine. Root read that, smiled, and sent off another cable of solicitude: 'How is horse?

>A lady calling on him in the interest of her son's career in the army, had received the assurance she wished, and, departing, said, as the highest feminine conception of showing appreciation: 'Mr. Taft, you're really not near so fat as they say you are.'

>During one cross-country Presidential trip, Taft's aide was appalled by "the bad manners of our children [in addressing the President]. It was better when we reached the South, but even there we sometimes heard saucy little brats yell out, 'Hello, Bill,' and sometimes, 'Hello, Fatty.'"

I was reading a book on him and Teddy. In the Philippines, Taft wrote a letter to one of his relatives saying the weather there was causing him to eat more. During the 1912 election, Teddy also called him a fat-head during a campaign speech.

>> No.10922806

>>10922779
>hats were popular because people were embarrassed about their hygiene
ask me how i know you dropped out of school

>> No.10922810

>>10922669
if only the british had signed some sort of agreement with the germans. an agreement where they both agreed terms which would prevent a world war. where both sides could retain the peace and still keep their dignity. they could have signed it somewhere in germany like munich for instance. oh if only such a "munich agreement" could have been reached! alas, those warmongering british just could not have been placated by the benevolent diplomat hitler

I mean if Molotov and Ribbentrop were able to conclude a lasting peace between the USSR and Nazi Germany, then why on earth weren't the British able to? those arrogant english yet again im afraid

>> No.10922827

>>10922810
The Germans were starving to due to WW1 payments, and the Russians, who were already eating their own children, were threatining their own boarders. Do you history?

>> No.10922845

>>10922827
literally nothing you said explains why hitler decided to sign a peace treaty with britain at munich, then break it again, then complain when the british declared war on him

to answer your question with another question, do YOU even history?

>> No.10922852

>>10922806
Actually I was home-schooled. Pretty hard to drop out :)

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>>10922793
>how is horse

>> No.10922869

>>10922845
Germany was not allowed to arm after ww1, but were under constant threat and persecution from all boarders. For them, it was all one war that never ended. What does paperwork matter when an immigrant will not sell you medicine for your child because your marks are valueless? You do what you can to survive today, and fight tomorrow if need be.

>> No.10922913

>>10922855
Have some more
>Theodore Roosevelt remarked that Taft should give up riding because it was doing him no good and because it was "cruelty to the horse"

>"Justice Brewer of the Supreme Court said that 'Taft is the politest man in Washington; the other day he gave up his seat in a street-car to three ladies.'"

>Taft once sat down in a theater and found his bulk firmly locked into the too-narrow seat. He remarked to his brother: "Horace, if this theater burns, it has got to burn around me"7a. As a Yale professor, Taft had his own specially-widened seat in the front row of the main university auditorium. The audience once saw him come down the aisle "accompanied by a protesting usher, who departed, apparently satisfied, after a brief whispered colloquy." Taft settled into his seat, then said to the woman next to him, "I lost my ticket, but was fortunately able to establish my identity by the breadth of my beam and the corresponding breadth of this seat"

>> No.10922954

>>10922913
Are you the guy that posts Taft's white house dinner courses? I've never been able to find those online.

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>>10922954
Not me. Sorry fren

>> No.10923311

>>10922869
So what you're saying is that Germany decided to look out for it's own interest instead of working together with Britian to keep the peace (i.e what we've been telling you the whole time you retarded piece of shit)?

>> No.10923809

>>10923311
>So what you're saying is that Germany decided to look out for it's own interest
That's illegal according to international law. There's one race, the human race. You have no place on this planet, it's for everyone

>> No.10923827

>>10923311
Not what I said at all. Whoever taught you to read must have no pride at all.

>> No.10923857

>>10922582

>gambled away the Empire
>was highly indebted to the United States
>ensured the ethnic destruction of native Brits by doing the bidding of the people who run the City of London
>will be remembered as a fat drunkad jew puppet

uhmm...

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>>10922582
>ordered Dresden to be fire bombed to ruins
War crime
>tacit policy of shoot on sight for SS officers
War crime
>actively encouraged the use of atomic weapons against Japan
War crime
>campaigned for liberal application of the death penalty at Nuremberg
Perversion of justice and war crime

>> No.10923889

>>10923871
Also worth noting, the Germans tried for years to deport their invading Jews. They would not leave, and the country could not support them. Both England and America refused to take them.

>> No.10923949

>>10923871

This.

>> No.10924762

>>10922134
5'9, 284 here and let me tell you some thing you piece of fucking shit.

I'm handsome as fuck and have a babyface that allows me to pull easy teen pussy because of it. You should see some of the tight little bodies I've fucked. I have a 6.5in dick and not a single girl I have ever banged has failed to text/call me for a bootycall late at night. I embrace any challenge I get from someone who tries to stand in my face and intimidate me with their slim figure, because it's pathetic. Large mass, fast reflexes, and ridiculous tricep strength will allow me to either 1) quickly take you to the ground where I will stomp your ugly face or 2 out last you with body punches because your shitty, underweight frame required to take those extra punches made you your frail skeleton break down. I make 85k a year as an mid-level engineering manager at Ford (I'm 23 btw, they will most likely promote me to upper management within the next 2-3 years). I fuck shit up in every single sport and would destroy any of you (minus endurance sports where skill/talent is substituted for light weight). I've been compared to Butterbean in my boxing style. powerful precise punches, knocking out each opponent in front of me. I have 20 k/o's at my local gym and I made the varsity football team freshman year as starting defensive end but boxing and football take up too much time and training so I can't dominate both.

Sports I would destroy you at in order

Boxing Football E-sports Baseball Wrestling Rugby Golf Footgolf Ping Pong others

I know you. Ugly is a given. Probably curly hair. Tried to grow a beard but it was patchy and you were sad for awhile about that. Struggling to find a way to validate yourself you took to reminding everyone how you're "under 190 pounds", as if that was some sort of cutoff for being a man. When in reality you're just as pathetic as every other self-hating wannabe piece of shit out there, yet you have somehow convinced yourself you've won the genetic lottery.

>> No.10924788

>>10924762
tldr: not bast your weight. You are morbidly obese and disgusting.

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>>10922575

>> No.10924884

>>10922913
holy shit Taft sounds based

>> No.10924892

>>10924762
is this a pasta?

>> No.10924894

>>10924788
lol stay jealous that I've accomplished more in life than you and that all you have to show for is that you are an anorexic twig soyboy

>> No.10924919

>>10924892
this is /ck/ but it's not a pasta or anything he's some fatass overcompensating lol

>> No.10924923

>>10922534
That would have had put a nice, fine point on things. I doubt it would have made it any more clear to the average Anon, though.

>> No.10924929

>>10924894
I am 6' 6", 240 and can punch through a car. I also retired at 30. Eat shit. I am sure you are starving.

>> No.10924933

>>10924919
it has to be a pasta, no one is pathetic enough to brag like that on a fast food shilling / food related shit posting image board.

>> No.10925092

>>10922913
>I lost my ticket, but was fortunately able to establish my identity by the breadth of my beam and the corresponding breadth of this seat"
Was it autism?

>> No.10925153

>>10924929
No one said you had to counter retardation with even more.

>> No.10925157

>>10925092
No, just morbid obesity
>>10924884
Teddy Roosevelt was good friends with him for a reason

>> No.10925191

>>10925153
I wouldn't hear you and it would not matter if you did, bitch. In the real world, you fold my laundry while I eat your commissary.

>> No.10925218

Fun fact, Caloric intake was 3X what it is now in the 1700s. I work in an olde english tavern and we have menu printouts that have meals well in the 4000 calories and beyond at a rate of 10 pence to 8 shillings.

>> No.10925219

>>10922121
Fat ass lazy urbanites have existed since the first towns and villages.

>> No.10925226

>>10925191
I'm not even the guy who started this.

>> No.10925229

>>10922145
More like your mothers standards, Ameriboo.

>> No.10925241

>>10925229
if his mother had standards she would not have let his gay dad push his cum into her with his hand.

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>>10924762
wew, imagine feeling the need to lie on mongolian throat-singing board

>> No.10925278

>>10922433
People are fat and poor because they're stupid.
>be cashier
>white trash, niggers, and fatties buying tons of candy, snacks, and soda on EBT
>Oh gee willikers, why can't I find healthy food, Mr. Government Man?

>> No.10925281

>back then
>eat a lot of food because you enjoy it and can afford it due to being rich
>don't workout because it had little research behind it and most doctors were making shit up without regulation
>now
>eat highly processed foods designed to make certain people addicted to them
>most people hover around being overweight as sugar is in everything due to the bliss point meme and without paying attention it's easy to go over daily caloric limits

>> No.10925358

>>10924762
>I work at Ford
Get cucked by the faggots who do nothing at Delphi

>> No.10925853

>>10922582
Putrid, revolting *nglo swine

>> No.10925884

>>10922405
I could live like this if I was rich and owned a farm to burn those calories off within the 4 hour waiting periods. I do work out to eat desu.

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>>10922222
noice

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>>10922222
Quite noice

>> No.10926853

>>10922793
>How is horse?
absolutely based

>> No.10926860

>>10922523
They also had access to more fatty and sugary foods that the avarge farmer did not.

>> No.10926870

>>10922507
I don't understand it, he is a billionaire, why doesn't he just get stomach surgery? Does his wife like fat men?

>> No.10926891

>>10926870
>I don't understand
Clearly. Not everyone is as shallow as you my underage friend

>> No.10926901

>>10926891
It's not about being shallow. I personally only slam 400lb landwhales. For all the plus size pride all of them said they'd get weight loss surgery if they could afford it because they have a hard time walking in a store and don't want to die at 50

>> No.10926913

>>10926901
Your fake anecdote aside there are people who feel comfortable being overweight believe it or not, especially people who prioritize their business or work over going to the gym

>> No.10926924

>>10922913
And here's some witty banter betwen G. K. Chesterton (who was famously overweight) and Bernard Shaw:

>Chesterton: I see there has been a famine in the land.
>Shaw: And I see the cause of it.

>Shaw: If I were as fat as you, I would hang myself.
>Chesterton: If I were to hang myself, I would use you as the rope.

>> No.10926935

>>10926913
But the contradiction to that is that wealth is correlated with better physical fitness. The poor may technically do more physical work as a whole, but their lack of exercise, poor diet and sedentary habits when off-work mean that they are significantly more likely to be obese.

>> No.10926999

>>10926935
Ok? That wasn't the argument but that may be true when looking at general groups but obviously the models follow normal distribution curves.

>> No.10927008

>>10922789
>t. a loud, fart huffing knowitall fuckhead

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>>10922222

>> No.10928357 [DELETED] 

>>10922271
What an absolute crock of horseshit. Control your portions and get some exercise you dumb nigger.

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>>10922171
Blom?

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>>10922222
based

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>>10922222
An excess of twos

>> No.10928490

>>10922130
this, plus alcohol
also, sugar and pastries has existed for a long time
i can promise with quite good certainty that sugar, rather than fast food, is the biggest obesity bandit

>> No.10928611

>>10922280
BECAUSE THEY ATE HATES

>> No.10928650

>>10922280
Because no $5 sunglasses and no sunscreen.

>> No.10928704

>>10922280
The West was far more Christian back in the day and the Bible says that both men and women should cover their heads.

>> No.10928729

>>10922665
i dont see any niggers

>> No.10928750

>>10926860
People eat more sugar now, yes. But it's not like a slice of pie was uncommon on the farm after supper AND dinner. And as far as fat goes, biscuits and pie crust were made with lard, and butter was slathered over bread and most vegetables. People ate a lot of fat back then. It just didn't matter o much when your workday had you burning 3500+ calories. But that shit sure matters a lot when you barely burn 2200 in a day.

>> No.10928762

>non-manual labor job
>didn't serve in the military
>travel everywhere via horse and buggy
>lots of alcohol
>lots of calorie dense food
>thyroid issues
>low testosterone and/or high estrogen
>able to afford servants that do any of your work/chores
>simply a freak with an insatiable appetite

>> No.10928782

>>10922121
Thyroid disorders were rare, but common amongst the few fat people yiu found

>> No.10928794

>>10924762
ok fatty

>> No.10928797

Calories in > calories out

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>>10928750
>people eat more sugar now
Keto lie #34 debunked

>> No.10928841

>>10928750
fat also isnt anywhere near as bad as we think it is, and people back then didnt have the same misconceptions because it was before the modern shady sugar industry practices

>> No.10928847

>>10928805
What happened in 1999?

>> No.10928851

>>10928847
HFCS became popular.

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>>10928851
Can't be right. HFCS consumption also peaked around then.

>> No.10928927

>>10928782
Maybe he just has ENORMOUS bones.

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>>10928851
>high FRUCTOSE corn syrup

>high FRUCTOSE corn syrup only became popular 20 years ago

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>>10928841
>muh evil booger industry fooled us!!!

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>>10928936
>people use "sugar" and "fructose" interchangeably while providing statistics to the layman

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>>10928979
>this entire post

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>>10928999
>"sugar" in layman's terms isn't typically used to refer specifically to "cane sugar"

>> No.10929027

>>10928999
>>10929015
You're both fucking insufferable.

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>>10929015
>literally defending being a brainlet by calling yourself a brainlet

pretty based 2bh

>>10929027
Nigger

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>>10929044
>ur brainlit cuz u understand most graph made 4 brainlit

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>>10929051
>Sugar consumption went down because hfcs got popular

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>>10928805
The past I'm referring to is early 20th Century, before and just after WWI. Sugar was more expensive back then. Of course consumption ramped up in the 80's and 90's when HFCS was super cheap.

My point is that fat and sugar in your diet don't matter so much when you're burning over 3500 calories a day with physical labor. A piece of pie every day after dinner is no big deal. But for someone whop burns closer to 2000 in a day it could be.

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>>10929056
>replacing cane sugar with HFCS in popular items like soft drinks doesn't cause the consumption of cane sugar to decrease
>still doesn't understand that most of the general public considers "sugar" and "HFCS" to be 2 separate entities, which is usually reflected in graph wording

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>>10929063
Nigger are you literally retarded? Not only are you making utterly retarded assumptions that this was some survey of people being asked how much cane sugar they ate but also LITERALLY ignoring the TWO SEPARATE charts that shows “both” sugar and high FRUCTOSE corn syrup consumption down

Do you literally have down’s, bro?

>u-usually
BAHAHAHAHAHHA

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>>10929063
>>10929105
For added posterization. Here’s the lead researcher completely and utterly shitting all over your entire “argument” regarding high FRUCTOSE corn syrup

Jesus christ anon why did you make me do this to you?

>> No.10929191

they probably ate a shitton of bread and gruel

>> No.10929263

sure is /pol/ in here.

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