Reminder

[Anonymous No.10911755]

Anyone who eats more than 20g of carbs a day is the same as a drug addicted sugar dependant fatass


Calorie Restricted Keto and Intense training is the only way to true fitness.

Eat Carbs and you are quite frankly never gonna make it and I do hope that your death by diabetes is slow and painful and ruins your life :)

This is non-negotiable /fit/

[Anonymous No.10911765]

>>10911755
Fuck off with your retarded fad diet shit and "making it". This isn't /fit/ - we're probably less obese than the average /fit/ fag anyway.

[Anonymous No.10911766]

>>10911755
>dying from heart disease is better than dying from diabetes

[Anonymous No.10911778]

>>10911755
Get the fuck out of /ck/ nobody cares

[OP is a faggot No.10911783]

>>10911755
Reminder
OP can't get enough BBC

[Anonymous No.10911787]

>>10911755
>your brain on /fit/

[Anonymous No.10911802]

>>10911765
This is a board that worships food and decadent sugars.

You are the epitome of gluttony and excess. You need to learn that food is fuel.

Not something tasty or sugary to stuff in your mouth

>>10911766
Ketosis converts fat to Ketones. Dietary fat and stored body fat (second applies to you tubbies) with calorie restriction they are already burned up and used with keto+restriction

only you fatties who consume excess calories and abundance of carbs will get diabetes and heart disease.

Because the lack of ketosis makes fat useless because your burning inferior glucose instead

[Anonymous No.10911817]

>>10911778
>>10911783
>>10911787
One day I will win.

Sugar and excessive carbs will be banned. And you will be forced to eat food normally. In moderation and satiation.

[Anonymous No.10911818]

>>10911755
Post your physique, oh wait you won't

[Anonymous No.10911830]

>>10911755
>HURRDURR MUH CARBS
You know nothing. The only people who genuinely benefit from Keto are unironic diabetic landwhales. If that does not describe you, you are a fucking retard and I hope the next meme diet you fall for convinces you to hang yourself.
t. nutritionist

[Anonymous No.10911832]

>>10911766
>he thinks eating fat while in ketosis causes heart disease
>he doesnt know ketosis is a different metabolic state with different outcomes compared to carb heavy standard western diet

Point and laugh at him

[Anonymous No.10911836]

>>10911818
I am known on fit. I prefer to keep my popularity and be able to criticise you

[Anonymous No.10911837]

[Anonymous No.10911838]

>>10911755
you lead a sad and pathetic life

[Anonymous No.10911839]

>>10911830
Lmao you must be the worst most uninformed nutritionist on the planet, i feel bad for the people you scam into giving you money for shit advice

[Anonymous No.10911840]

>>10911817
What people eat is their choice. Nobody cares what your political aspirations for carbs and sugar may be. You will never win. Find a new cause and go the fuck somewhere else...

[Anonymous No.10911843]

>>10911836
So you are fat, got it lmao.
Only very novice lifters and absolute desperate fatsos fell for the keto meme. Thanks for proving my point fatboi

[Anonymous No.10911855]

>>10911843
Only sub 90 IQ eat carbs, if you defend carbs you are no better than an alcoholic defending alcoholism. Degenerate scum.

[Anonymous No.10911857]

>>10911830
I've been keto for 4 years and my performance, strength and speed has not benefited.

My blood work is excellent and my body could not be better thanks to Keto

>>10911843
Nice ad hominem.

But only a fatty like you would react so angrily to the prospect of being told to drop carbs at no more than 1400 cals a day.


Who's the real fatty?

I've had a morning workout and a evening workout.

While Im a superior active phoneposter. You are posting from a desktop.

Sitting down, sedentary.

You can never win. I've made you abandon thread 4 times today. All while on the move.

[Anonymous No.10911862]

>>10911857
Has only benefited.

Damn autocorrect on this phone. Guess that's a consequence of being outside ;)

[Anonymous No.10911865]

>>10911755
>20g of carbs
Drug addicted sugar dependant fatass amerilard detected.

[Anonymous No.10911877]

>>10911865
20g carbs is the max :)

Something for you amateurs to dip the toe in.

While I manage less than 5g a day on average, thanks to my regime.

But let's face. Very few people can perform and have such discipline as me

[Anonymous No.10911884]

>>10911855
The most successful and intelligent men on the planet eat carbs on the regular. Also the biggest, leanest and strongest men eat carbs on the regular,.
Only retard rejects from /fit/ who just started lifting and are going 'all out' with their meme diets swear by keto. I'ts embarrassing really, no advanced or even intermediate lifter would ever do keto seriously, it's just dumb as the benefits of carbs are widely known.
Unless you post your physique don't respond to this thread and consider yourself spared

[Anonymous No.10911887]

>>10911865
>meanwhile a single slice of toast contains 30 gram of carbs

[Anonymous No.10911893]

>/ck/ is this easily trolled
christ i thought /tg/ was bad

[Anonymous No.10911897]

If it isn't /pol/tards it's /fit/shits

When will summer end?

[Anonymous No.10911899]

>>10911755
My problem with keto is that it restricts how much milk I can drink. I eat less carbs than the average person already but I'd never give up muh milk.

I think the keto diet is fine as an on/off thing though, just not a permanent change.

[Anonymous No.10911904]

>DAAAAAH FUCKING CARBS WHY ARENT YOU KETO ITS SO MUCH HEALTHIER

[Anonymous No.10911918]

>>10911884
>successful and intelligent men on the planet eat carbs
so true. carbs made pic related the man he is today. ketofags btfo

[Anonymous No.10911926]

Do you think people would have such a problem with carbs if people never switched en masse to refined carbs? Like if we were still eating mostly beans and whole wheat and brown rice and oats and way less sugar, instead of so much white flour and white sugar, would carbs still seem like such a big problem?

[Anonymous No.10911937]

>>10911884
>>10911918
Rich Piana was one of those men, and he ate himself to an early grave

All your "strongest" at destined for diabetes, heart disease and beer bellies because they are so used to eating 4000 cals a day. They will never be able to stop and they will lose their muscles and become fatties.


Only though moderation and restriction and intense training through superior metabolism can you achieve true fitness.

Walking Tumours are nothing more than clunky men who can be easily knocked out by lighter, more agile, bodily strong men who can actually do cardio without dying

[Anonymous No.10911939]

>>10911926
No. Ketoniggers get triggered by orange slices. They fear anything that isn’t a slab of butter

[Anonymous No.10911941]

>>10911926
not quite as much, but many of the problems would still exist. fossil skeletons pre agriculture have much better teeth than those post agriculture for example, because higher blood sugar levels make it easier for bacteria to thrive.

[Anonymous No.10911942]

>>10911937
>and he ate himself to an early grave
Yeah I'm sure it wasn't all the steroids and whatever the fuck else he was taking that did him in

[Anonymous No.10911943]

>>10911926
Paleo and increased activity would regulate it more yes

Only the super rich got fat. Normal people didn't excess

[Anonymous No.10911951]

>>10911939
To be fair, I don't do a keto diet, but the sugar in fruit messes with my skin and makes it itchy and break out in pimples, and I've heard that modern fruit has a lot more sugar than it used to.

[Anonymous No.10911952]

>>10911926
'Balanced diet' is a swear to ketofags. They're just as bad as veganfags or paleofags or any other fanbois out there. They will do whatever they can to get you to join their cult; berate you, befriend you, pummel you with opinion till you're sick of them; they don't understand that the only people who really care is them. They're just another religion basically, and one that ignores as many facts as it lauds. Like all the rest. It's tiresome.

[Anonymous No.10911960]

>>10911939
Fruit is excessive, and it damages teeth due the sugar content.


With many imported from abroad they a foreign food not suitable for European genetics.


Apples etc are supposed to be a rare treat. Only found once a year in certain parts of the forest

Not these mass farmed glutton factories called vineyards and fruit crops

[Anonymous No.10911968]

>>10911951
You’re probably eating shitty latex fruit. Fructose from whole fruit isn’t going to make you break out unless you’re allergic to something in fruit

[Anonymous No.10911970]

>>10911952
Restricted intake is a swear to carb fags

I highly doubt any of you could handle my daily routine without crying home to your literal sugar daddy

It's not normal to eat in excess of 1400 cals let alone 2000

[Anonymous No.10911977]

>>10911960
>fruit is excessive
For obese ketoniggers

>European genetics
Oh right eating Muslim semen is only suitable for a nice tasty treat

Rot in hell, kike

[Anonymous No.10911991]

>>10911970
Bugman kike

[Anonymous No.10912003]

>>10911970
You do realize that if you eat less cals than you need, your body will cannibalize itself to get what it needs, right? At first, that's fat. A good thing. Then, it's other things you need. Eating below your requirement is a good thing when you need to lose weight, but after that going too low is detrimental. But I wouldn't expect some faglord who grossly assumes a lot of things and acts like a troll to actually be invested in logic. Or science. Or anything beside trolling really.
>I am le superior human being!
Cool. Now prove it. Posting about it on 4chan means the opposite. If you have time to shitpost you have time go earn a PhD and change the world for the better. Actually be someone instead of dying as "the really old healthy guy".

[Anonymous No.10912005]

>>10911968
>You’re probably eating shitty latex fruit.
Huh. Never heard of that. Mango is one of those fruits and it was the worst for me. I was okay with lower sugar fruits in smaller amounts like some berries though. I'll look into the latex thing more, but even basic desserts with refined sugar cause me to break out. Apparently it's not too uncommon for sugar to cause these problems in other people too. Something to do with blood sugar spikes (obviously) causing inflammation.

[Anonymous No.10912009]

>>10911942
Another carb shill trying to shift the blame from dangerous carbs to safe medication. He was another victim showing how carbs hold you back when you want to break out and achieve more mass.

[Anonymous No.10912013]

>>10911755
Anyone who regularly browses fit deserves to be banned from this board. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.10912016]

>>10912009
b8, but gave me a little ᶫᵒᶫ

[Anonymous No.10912020]

>>10912005
Refined sugar yes. It’s highly unusual to break out from even high sugar fruits

[Anonymous No.10912022]

>>10911977
Go suck on your syrup filled chocolate bar.

>>10911991
Lol.

I definitely have higher t levels than you

>>10912003
Been doing this for four years. Strength increased and performance increased.

Cannibalisation is No where to be seen


I'm not here to prove myself to you.

I merely wish to prove keto, which I have.

Being self congratulatory is a bonus I will admit

[Anonymous No.10912026]

You guys must be real hits at a party.

[Anonymous No.10912030]

>>10912022
>reddit spacing bugman kike with a phallic food fixation
yikes

[Anonymous No.10912033]

>>10912022
Oh it's there. Especially if you're as active as you say and are only eating 1400 cals or less a day. You'll find out soon enough. Now get back to the other thread so I can troll you there with facts too.

[Anonymous No.10912037]

>>10911926
yes if those carbs are available in essentially unlimited quantities. Type 2 diabetes was first documented in India among the wealthy; they did not eat large amounts of refined carbs, but due to their wealth they ate a high carb diet without any real calorie restrictions. A high carb diet works only if it is accompanied by calorie restriction - the chinese and japanese did quite well on a diet of nearly all simple carbs for a long time; they're now on the same path as the US due to increased calorie intake. As long as you keep a tight rein on calories your endocrine system gets a chance to rest between meals, but when you start getting multiple large intakes of carbs each day - no matter which type - the insulin levels are just too high too long, and your liver starts acting as though high blood sugar levels are normal, and then your doctor tells you you have metabolic disorder and to look forward to a lifetime of insulin shots.

[Anonymous No.10912053]

>>10912037
>Type 2 diabetes was first documented in India among the wealthy; they did not eat large amounts of refined carbs, but due to their wealth they ate a high carb diet without any real calorie restrictions.
That's interesting. I always find unrefined carbs to be really filling though and figured it would be almost impossible to overeat on them. I guess if you really were wealthy and did nothing but sit around and eat all day it would be possible.

[Anonymous No.10912072]

Reminder: eating food makes you a carbon dependent parasite that’s selfishly appropriating biomass despite being in the taxonomic minority

[Anonymous No.10912079]

>>10912053
Being sedentary is the biggest factor next to genetics that affects health. Diet is actually quite a bit down the line, much as that chaps ketofags and other dietfags to hear. It's not what they were eating; it's what they weren't doing. The only reason nobles tended to live longer was they had lower physical risk than peasants did. Infection was murder then. They weren't healthier, that's for sure. But your good ol' DNA will be what likely brings you low eventually, not how much fruit you ate or how many miles you run.

[Anonymous No.10912087]

>>10912053
>That’s interesting
It’s also a blatant lie lol

[Anonymous No.10912099]

>>10912053
>wealthy and did nothing but sit around
that pretty much describes western adulthood. even the poorest westerners are fantastically wealthy compared to people even 50 years ago.
>and eat all day
easy to do when the blood sugar swings from the high carb meals keep telling your brain to eat

carbs are cheap to produce, so they're great when your poor they are the only affordable thing that provides enough energy to survive. unfortunately they're a killer once you're wealthy and can afford to eat your fill. the upper class indians found this out, the americans found this out, and europeans and east asians are now finding this out.

[Anonymous No.10912111]

>>10912079
Sedentary vegans are healthier than omnivorous marathon runners

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/17518696/

Genetics and going for a run wont save you from slobbering a gallon of bacon

Boomers really are cancer

[Anonymous No.10912135]

>>10912016
based

[Anonymous No.10912145]

>>10911918
>made him the man he is today
Obese?

[Anonymous No.10912150]

>>10912145
Obesity is the ultimate redpill.

[Anonymous No.10912152]

>>10912087
https://books.google.com/books?id=i0qojvF1SpUC&pg=PA3#v=onepage&q&f=false
>In the fifth century A.D. SushrutaandCharaka, two Indian physicians, were the first to differentiate between the two forms of diabetes mellitus

[Anonymous No.10912161]

>>10912111
That's not what that study even says. Christ you're worthless; maybe if you ate the number of calories you actually needed instead of being a cheese-snarfing anorexic you'd have processed the text properly.

[Anonymous No.10912174]

>>10912161
>its not what it says word for word!!
Strawman. Enjoy running 4000 miles just to keep up with a potato chip eating hippie

[Anonymous No.10912195]

>>10912174
It's not what it says period. It doesn't support your statement in the least, in fact. I actually bothered to look. I know, I know, that's anathema to people who just bandy science about to fuel their agenda, but sometimes you get caught. Best learn to get some thicker skin and some better arguments for next time.

[Anonymous No.10912259]

>>10912195
It shows sedentary do nothing vegans have a BMI and arterial thickness equal to or better than marathon running omnivores. Please grasp harder

>bandy
You can’t name one thing wrong with the methods or mechanistic data

>thicker skin
As he has a complete breakdown from something not verbatik equating to what I said

Fatty is mad

[Anonymous No.10912260]

>>10912111
Marathon runners aren't actually that healthy. They try to keep their body weight as low as possible and sustain damage to their bodies because they run for so long.

[Anonymous No.10912485]

>>10911857
>>10911830
I decided to do 1 month of no carbs to see what the fuss was about. The only carbs I've had are from the small amount of fruit I eat and in small piece of cake with my daughter.

Im not lying here, in ONE WEEK my acid reflux is completely gone and I've lost ten pounds, also I'm not tired in the middle of the afternoon anymore. I have only benefited and really enjoy the results so far

[Anonymous No.10912505]

>>10912485
one week? I lost 10 pounds in one day on a no carb diet not even joking.

[Anonymous No.10912512]

>>10911755
you can't just say "carbs" there are simple and complex carbs, complex are fine to eat.

[Anonymous No.10912532]

>>10912505
That is a lot. How much did you weigh?

[Anonymous No.10912545]

>>10911755
Sounds like someones been doing keto for a week.

[Anonymous No.10912552]

>>10912532
140 I'm 3 feet.

[Anonymous No.10912642]

>>10912259
No it doesn't it shows that they have better BMI and arterial thickness than sedentary Western dieters. Read nigga.

[Anonymous No.10912678]

but is oatmeal good or bad then

[Anonymous No.10912679]

>>10912642
Eat a carrot or six

[Anonymous No.10912694]

>>10912679
>lower in the vegan AND runner groups
you first.

[Anonymous No.10912713]

>>10912694
The post you are replying to >>10912259

>equal to or better than marathon running omnivores.

[Anonymous No.10912727]

>>10912713
He moved the goalposts anyway; I was arguing his initial assertion here: >>10912111
>Sedentary vegans are healthier than omnivorous marathon runners
Which is patently false by that selfsame study. So you 'got' me, but only because I didn't notice he moved the goalposts. I guess I do need a carrot or three.

[Anonymous No.10912785]

>>10912727
>moved the goalposts
Then you did.

In that same image the blood pressure is also significantly healthier. And here it is showing a 10% difference in thickness of carotid artery walls

>patently false
Patently false

[Anonymous No.10912792]

>>10912785
*near 10% difference

[Anonymous No.10912813]

>>10912785
>systolic that low
>healthy
Technically, but 90 is the lowest, and being under 110 can mean dizziness and weakness, so it's not a good indicator of health. Learn what those numbers mean.

You're still wrong. Deal with it. I never moved a damn goalpost. Point where I did, with respect to his initial assertion.

/micdrop