/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.10853815]

How do we end america's american obesity pandemic in america?

[Anonymous No.10853816]

Person in image isn't American.

[Anonymous No.10853820]

>>10853816
denial is the first stage of grief

[Anonymous No.10853829]

I unironically believe processed snack foods like chips and Twinkies should have the shit taxed out of them like cigarettes.

[Anonymous No.10853844]

>>10853829
I'd ban the display of candy right at the checkout. That's such a cynical and scummy practice.

[Anonymous No.10853850]

>>10853815
Universal healthcare, so they don't have to pay for their bad decisions :^)

[Anonymous No.10853853]

>>10853820
.co.uk

[Anonymous No.10853859]

>>10853815
>co.uk
>walkers
Nice try

[Anonymous No.10853882]

>>10853815
ban soda

[Anonymous No.10853899]

>>10853820
>item on the left literally has a european currency on it

[Anonymous No.10853902]

Change the country's name.

[Anonymous No.10853908]

More guns

[Anonymous No.10853943]

>>10853815
we live in the civilization with the most advanced, most sophisticated, most weapons-grade flavor in the history of the universe.

if a few people need to die to ensure that we are able to maintain our standard of dining, we can honor the casualties of this just war.

[Anonymous No.10854020]

>>10853820
>maltesers
>.co.uk URL on pizza box
>walkers instead of lays

up your photo sleuthing

[Anonymous No.10854034]

>>10854020
And the GBP symbol on the Aero bars.

[Anonymous No.10854043]

Seriously, look at this fat fuck American. How does this happen?

[Anonymous No.10854061]

You don't see this in countries that actually offer healthcare to their people.

[Anonymous No.10854090]

Forget the American meme, how the fuck do people do this to themselves? They can't feel good. I'm fat but I'm not a goddamn hamplanet and still feel like shit.

Seriously, how the fuck do these people function? Or am I fool for assuming they function at all?

[Anonymous No.10854166]

>>10854090
The fatter they get, the worse their lives get, the more they need to rely on food as a coping mechanism.

[Anonymous No.10854169]

>>10854090
>Forget the American meme
Nice try, but this thread is about Americans.

[Anonymous No.10854252]

imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.10854292]

>>10854043
>it's not my fault
>it's not my problem

[Anonymous No.10854295]

>>10854292
Exactly.

[Anonymous No.10854445]

>>10854043
You can tell from this guy's face that he could be handsome but with all that weight he ends up looking like a middle-aged lesbian.

[Anonymous No.10854832]

We don't. This is what happens when you remove God and morals from society and replace it with hedonism and instant gratification.

[Anonymous No.10854868]

Stop the agri corporation subsidies (corporate welfare) for HFCS corn and grains. Increase subsidies for produce. Tax the shit out of any food or drink item containing refined sugars. Charge a 100% tax on fast food. Anyone (even emperors) with a BMI over 25 to be confined in fat loss concentration camps until target loss achieved. These camps shall be spartan - no tv, no internet.

[Anonymous No.10854888]

>>10854832
Yes, because Thomas Aquinas and other Christian monks were the poster-models of dietary restraint. God or not, some people just love eating.

[Anonymous No.10854928]

>>10853815
>realize that there is such a thing as food and sugar addiction
>realize that the food companies tout ‘personal responsibility,’ is because then no one will blame them for all the shitty things that they do, because people will rather blame themselves and each other instead
>realize that there is a link between poor and obese since vegetables are more expensive than junk food
>treat obesity as a symptom of addiction
>stop promoting hack science about needing 3-6 meals a day
>stop promoting that all fat is bad for you
>stop promoting that al you need is protein
>stop giving so many subsidies to companies that make junk food
>stop giving out snack in schools
>no more vending machines giving out soda and junk food in schools, hospitals, and offices
>make companies more accountable for all of the horrible shit they put in their food
>Government needs to promote higher standards in the food grown and served in the US
>people need to demand that more government subsidies need to be given to farmers who grow actual food
>people in the US need to demand higher minimum wage

[Anonymous No.10855175]

>>10854888
*tips*

[Anonymous No.10855182]

>>10854928
i agree with these but where the fuck does the minimum wage come i- oh right, because poor people buy garbage cause that's all they can afford

I'm mostly on board with this. The biggest issue is we load our fast and junk food with things we are fucking programmed to want to hoard. Our brains taste it and literally light up like we just did a line of coke (MRI studies have proven this). People are literally fulfilling one of their primary instinctual drives by cramming their faces with salt and fat and sugar, it's right up there with sex.

[Anonymous No.10855224]

>>10854928

so, become nazis?

[Anonymous No.10855248]

We need to encourage a culture of eating in moderation. Gluttony is the primary cause of obesity, not diet or lack of exercise. If you've lived in America long enough and dined with enough Americans, you'd know that they usually go in for seconds, overeat at restaurants, and snack all day long.

All of the added sugar sure as fuck doesn't help, either. I can't stand how pop is often the only drink served at fast-food restaurants. We need to do something about the availability of soft drinks, because that's where we get most of our added sugar. Like >>10853829 said, we need to tax it as much as we tax cigarettes. Coca-Cola is just as damaging to our nation's health as tobacco products, if not more so.

[Anonymous No.10855254]

>>10853815

[Anonymous No.10855260]

>>10853815
>>10855254

[Anonymous No.10855261]

>>10853829
>>10853844
>>10853882
unironically stuff like this
there's no real value to these "food" items, and if you go a while without consuming then try them again, they're actually fucking disgusting (at least that was the case for me)

[Anonymous No.10855262]

>>10854043
>pounds
>american
huh?

[Anonymous No.10855263]

>>10855224
>demanding better food and helping addicts is akin to becoming a nazi

Ok.

[Anonymous No.10855265]

>>10853815
>>10853850

[Anonymous No.10855268]

>>10854043
why is there a trolley with unhealthy snacks and shit in a hospital anyway? doesn't make any fucking sense.

[Anonymous No.10855272]

>>10854928
>vegetables are more expensive than junk food
This is literally not true. Unless you buy all your produce at Whole Foods, vegetables are fairly cheap. Some of the uncommon ones are a bit more expensive, I guess, but nothing's stopping you from buying broccoli, carrots, and green beans.

[Anonymous No.10855279]

>>10854295
>he's now classed as a giant dog
my god, kill that woman now

[Anonymous No.10855282]

>>10855272
>but nothing's stopping you from buying broccoli, carrots, and green beans.
except the whole not being a faggot thing

[Anonymous No.10855283]

>>10855182
It’s because sugar is as addictive as coke and there’s a lot of sugar added to already sugar laden foods. It doesn’t help that before recently school lunches are mainly comprised of carbs and other sugary shit. Baby food/formula also has this problem.

[Anonymous No.10855284]

>>10854888
what an asinine statement.

[Anonymous No.10855295]

>>10855282
Have you never cooked for yourself? Carrots are indispensable in the kitchen; they're an essential part of most soup bases (along with onions and celery), and they go perfectly alongside any roasted meat. For green beans, just boil em, then saute them in butter with some toasted almonds, drizzle with lemon juice, and you have a restaurant worthy side dish. Broccoli, just steam it and add some melted cheese.

I thought this was the cooking board?

[Anonymous No.10855314]

>>10855272
>go to McDonald’s and get and entire meal for $3
>go to store and buy one stalk of broccoli for 1.49 p/pound

[Anonymous No.10855338]

>>10853815
Get a campaign started to count yer goddam calories. 2300 a day X 7 X52 = Fatass

A lot of people are rocking -3000 to 4000 calories a day-. Not bodybuilders or athletes I mean. Just average office worker types. That's really fucking easy to do if somebody isn't paying attention.

Okay, let's say you go full retard and order that new sandwich from Burger King. That Pubhouse King cheeseburger. That bitch alone is Heart Attack Grill tier. It's 1500 calories for just the sandwich itself. But oh shit nigga, that's gonna come in a combo. 370 calories for the fries. 250 calories for the drink.

So one meal and you are already over 2000. But that's one meal, son. Then you grab a Monster drink a little later. Then after work you hit up Taco Bell for dinner. A Chalupa Cravings Box is about 1200 calories or so.

Then on your way home you pick up a Bud Light Lime-a-Rita to drink... Maybe you stop and get some ice cream. You get the idea.

[Anonymous No.10855377]

>>10853815
We have guns so we can kill ourselves whenever we want.

[Anonymous No.10855379]

>>10855338
You can count calories, but if you restrict them that’s worse since your body is going to fight you to go back after you have lost the weight.

[Anonymous No.10855388]

>>10855379
>but if you restrict them that’s worse since your body is going to fight you to go back after you have lost the weight.

Why do idiots constantly parrot this? That applies to any and all diets, and any and all other forms of weight loss.

Of fucking course if you resume eating/acting like a fatass you'll gain your weight back. Is that supposed to be some kind of criticism? There's no weight loss plan on earth that allows you to magically revert to poor eating habits yet keep the weight off.

[Anonymous No.10855393]

>>10855379
That's a good point. It still stands that if you eat 4000 calories of food a day your gonna have problems though. But yeah. Somebody who does like 800 a day is a fucking clown setting themselves up to fail. Or a heroin addict.

[Anonymous No.10855402]

>>10855314
An entire meal at McDonald's is closer to 7 dollars.

t. dude that got a Quarter Pounder meal last night

[Anonymous No.10855454]

>>10855402
There is a $3 menu that can get you 3 items. Hell, you can get a 4 item meal for $4 at Wendy’s. So in that respect for less than $5 you can get an entire meal you don’t have to cook at home. If you are broke and don’t have a lot time because you are working a lot of jobs or going to school this is a very appealing option.

[Anonymous No.10855459]

>>10853815
americajs eat too many carbs not enough vegetables, thats it

[Anonymous No.10855469]

>>10854043
why DO the retards have a fucking snack trolley?

[Anonymous No.10855478]

>>10855272
asparagus is expensive as fuck. i can eat for days on bulk carbs but if you want to eat healthy you have to shell out for perishable lroduce every few days.

[Anonymous No.10855479]

>>10855388
Because eating like that is not sustainable long term. You know who eats like that all the time? Anorexics. Yet we call that a mental health disorder and diagnose it as a disease.

So let’s say you are doing 1200 kcal a day to get to your target weight. So you hit it and then you have to spend the rest of your life eating 1200 kcal a day? The recommended calorie consumption for adults is about 2000. So if you stick to 1200 you end up eating less than a child. Even if you start going to 1500 kcal you will begin gaining weight again.

That’s why it’s not considered a long term solution especially when your body is just gonna fight you, hard.

[Anonymous No.10855487]

>>10854928
>get rid of the fucking corn subsidies so using sugar instead of HFC becomes economical

[Anonymous No.10855490]

>>10855295
broccoli is better slathered in either butter/olive oil and some minced garlic , roasted until its a little burnt mmm

carrots are great but ive only ever seen one or two carrots added to soups. too many and it starts tasting weird

[Anonymous No.10855499]

>>10855479
>So you hit it and then you have to spend the rest of your life eating 1200 kcal a day?
No, that shows you don't even understand what you're talking about. 1200 kcal is a deficit. It results in you losing weight. If you stayed on 1200 forever then you'd continually lose weight until you starved to death. You stick to your calorie restricted diet until you reach a healthy weight. Then you eat more-- But not so much that you gain weight again. I.e. you cut your calories until you're a normal weight, then you eat 2000. (or whatever roughly similar number is maintenance for you).

>>Even if you start going to 1500 kcal you will begin gaining weight again.
no, it doesn't work that way. You only gain weight if you resume your unhealthy eating (i.e. over 2000, using the numbers you provided).

[Anonymous No.10855502]

>>10855487
Corn subsidies aren't really the problem.
High taxes and import quotas on sugar are. they've been in place since the late 1970's and early 1980's.

[Anonymous No.10855506]

>>10855261
You know you don't actually have to purchase those?

[Anonymous No.10855509]

>>10855338
how the fuck can you eat fast food 3 times a day then booze and ice cream afterword? you know what motivated me to get my diet under control more than weight? my burning asshole. a shit diet like this will lead fo runny stools and cause hemhoroids, anal fissures. all the imbalance of bile acids and lack of fiber and having to wipe your ass so roughly because it wont come clean will make going to the bathroom torture.

modern human adults are giving themselves diaper rashes every day because they wont eat their vegetables, they behave literally like children

[Anonymous No.10855510]

>>10853844
Try a dictionary maybe hmmm?

[Anonymous No.10855512]

>>10855506
Sshh, quiet. Stop making sense.

How am I supposed to blame my health problems on other things if you keep pointing out that it's my own choices that are responsible?

[Anonymous No.10855515]

>>10855402
i can eat a head of broccoli as a side dish for one meal. and thats like 2.50 but i have to wash it and prepare it myself.

[Anonymous No.10855524]

>>10855499
If you get your metabolism used to a certain amount of food you have doomed yourself once you start eating even a little bit more. Your body is going to immediately start storing that and then you are going to end up eating more and more. Our only option is stay in the gym for hours, but no matter how hard and long you work out you can’t work off a slice of pizza or cheeseburger.

Calorie counting is just not sustainable long term and neither is just restricting if you are still eating multiple meals throughout he day.

[Anonymous No.10855525]

>>10855515
So we've arrived at the answer - people are fat because they're lazy.

[Anonymous No.10855527]

>>10853829
>>10853844
>>10853882
>>10855261
Good little bootlickers.

>>10855263
Demanding government bans on candy is definitely a step on the way.

[Anonymous No.10855530]

>>10855512
Meth heads are also responsible for their demise, but they need help getting off drugs hence why there are services and medical treatment provided to them.

[Anonymous No.10855532]

>>10855527
>criticizing scummy practices of billion-dollar corporations is bootlicking

[Anonymous No.10855533]

>>10855524
>Our only option is stay in the gym for hours
Utter nonsense.
You simply have to eat more than you would when you were losing weight, but not so much that you gain it back. You cannot fight physics no matter how hard you try. If your diet matches your manintenace level of caloric burn then you remain the same weight.

The weight only comes back if you revert to your pre-weight-loss fatass diet. And that applies to any and all methods of weight loss.

[Anonymous No.10855536]

>>10855525
thats a large part of it, but i was more adding that prep time into the "cost" showing that yes, bad food is cheaper

[Anonymous No.10855538]

>>10855525
People are lazy, because they are fat.

In reality, yes. Humans will always go for whatever is easier.

[Anonymous No.10855543]

>>10855265
can i have some chips after i eat the fruits and vegetables?

[Anonymous No.10855545]

>>10855527
>not providing subsidies to Hostess is the equivalent of banning foods

Sure is false equivalency in here.

[Anonymous No.10855546]

>>10855527
>Demanding government bans on candy is definitely a step on the way.

A way to what? A candy black market.
Bans don't get rid of anything. (i.e. war on drugs, prohibition). All they do is force the market from a legal one to an illegal, unregulated one. Black markets are far worse because they put money in the hands of criminals and they lack the safeguards of a legal open market (labeling laws, elimination of adulterants, etc.) Making sugar is child's play compared to making drugs. All a "candy ban" would do is make gangbangers rich selling doctored candy to kids and fatasses.

[Anonymous No.10855547]

>>10855533
no, dont you get it? when you eat less calories your body becomes more efficient at using calories. in fact, your body doesnt have to eat anymore. if you restrict yourself to ,zero calories, your body gets used to having zro calories and you cant starve to death, its magic

[Anonymous No.10855551]

>>10855533
>You cannot fight physics
I swear every single goddamn time someone brings up "basic" physics or "simple" thermodynamics in regards to food, they're fucking morons spewing bullshit.

[Anonymous No.10855555]

>>10855551
ok, stay fat then

[Anonymous No.10855557]

>>10855533
But you are going to revert once you start gaining even a little bit of weight back once you start eating more. It spirals. That’s why so many people who diet end up failing and go back to gaining even after losing. The body will demand it.

To only consider it a numbers game and not factor in biology and psychology is naive.

[Anonymous No.10855565]

>>10855545
I did not reply to any posts saying to stop subsidies. I'm every bit as much against those as you are. There should be no money flowing to or from the State at all.

>>10855546
We agree that an oppressive government telling people what they can eat is a bad idea then.

[Anonymous No.10855569]

>>10855555
my bmi is 22
nice quints though

[Anonymous No.10855573]

>>10855557
you have fo pare back on calories as a lifestyle change or else you will gain again. otherwise, how the fuck do you think peopls ever lose weight? there arent enough hours in the day to work off enough calories in the gym, and the intensity would injur you.

[Anonymous No.10855576]

>>10855565
No one said anything about banning foods. Demanding coke not put lead paint in their soda (for example) is just asking that the government try to have the people’s best interest in mind as opposed corporations. Is that really that fucking hard to ask for?

[Anonymous No.10855579]

>>10855569
fucking dyel

[Anonymous No.10855587]

>>10855579
not anymore. did it for 5 years, before stopping half a year ago.
lifting sucks if you're depressed and your hormones are fucked.

[Anonymous No.10855595]

>>10855506
>>10855512
oh just stop. chips, candy and soda are sold on every corner and in every school / office (vending machines).
there's usually only one store in town that sells real food (the grocer) and a million places to buy junk.

you people are brainlets.

[Anonymous No.10855596]

>>10855587
Lifting helps me manage my depression, personally.

[Anonymous No.10855602]

>>10855573
I think people try to simplify weight loss as a matter of calories in vs. calories out, because it’s an easier concept to grasp. Adding in other random variables makes it harder. Because, right now we are talking about maintaining weight loss which calorie restricting doesn’t always work. Going to the gym isn’t enough.

That’s why the weight loss industry is so big, but not the maintainance one. Then once you fail it’s your own fault again hence why people are constantly struggling to lose weight for all of their lives.

[Anonymous No.10855603]

>>10855587
bmi of 22 means you must have no muscle mass

[Anonymous No.10855606]

>>10855576

>>10853844
>I'd ban the display of candy right at the checkout

>>10853882
>ban soda

[Anonymous No.10855621]

>>10855606
Banning the display of candy is different from banning it outright. I don’t agree with outright bans, but I do agree with taxing it heavily.

[Anonymous No.10855623]

>>10855595

You're only proving >>10855512 's point.
>it's not MY fault, those things are EVERYWHERE. why don't THEY do something about it.

[Anonymous No.10855624]

>>10855596
the way I was lifting wasn't great for my depression.
I didn't realize I was depressed and I tried hard to make progress in the gym, which didn't happen.
because my hormones and body were fucked from the depression, I could barely recover from anything, and I should've worked out a lot less.

moderate physical activity and spending a bit of time in the gym does help me with depression.

>>10855603
I've lost a lot of the muscle I did manage to gain in the last few months.
my bmi is probably even lower, haven't weighed myself in quite some time.

[Anonymous No.10855633]

>>10855623
People go for what’s more convenient. This is basic human psychology hence why all the candy is placed Near check out.

[Anonymous No.10855642]

>>10855621
As I said; good little bootlicker.

>>10855624
All exercise is good for depression but I find the gym incredibly boring.
Got heavily into archery maybe a year and a half ago, though. Very good workout for the upper body and a lot more fun than lifting weights.

[Anonymous No.10855646]

>>10855602
>because it’s an easier concept to grasp.
It's only only easy to grasp, it's the only fundamental fact in the whole world of diet. you cannot fight the laws of thermodynamics, period.

>>That’s why the weight loss industry is so big
the weight loss industry is big because people are desperately searching for a magic bullet. Everyone knows the answer: eat less and exercise more. But that's "hard" so people chase bullshit from charismatic charlatans and pill-pushers in the hopes that they can just take Dr. X's magic pill and lose weight while they continue to stuff themselves with junk food & sit on their ass all day.

>>but not the maintainance one
Maintenance doesn't need a specific industry. It's just normal food in sane portion sizes.

[Anonymous No.10855661]

>>10855602
so going to gym isnt enough but restricting calories isnt the way to go?

guess ill just die then. people need to realize that life is a constant struggle. thats why the only way to endure it is to embrace it. most people in the western world are hopelessly addicted to sugar, mostly because their parents and/or governments have failed them. its like saying that not taking heroine isnt sustainable because your body just wants that heroine and youre going to go back to it. no shit, most people wont be able to make the lifestyle changes reauired to MAINTAIN their healthy weight once they get thsre because theyre perspective on food, anxiety. time, work, basically everything in life is completely fucked.

[Anonymous No.10855664]

>>10855551
>, they're fucking morons spewing bullshit.

What makes you think that, exactly? Where is the mistake?

[Anonymous No.10855669]

>>10855661
*their perspective, sorry phoneposting

[Anonymous No.10855673]

>>10855646
>it’s this easy

Obviously it’s not, because people keep failing and I really doubt it’s only because people want to eat so much. Even the one Biggest Loser contestant who managed to maintain her weight loss gained some of her weight back.

Blaming it solely on ‘lazy people’ is highly misguided and ignorant.

[Anonymous No.10855674]

If you can't stop eating and have some kind of one-in-a-million cavernous hunger, then buy a huge bag of normandy blend vegetables at Costco and eat to your heart's content. I guarantee that you can't eat enough vegetables to stay fat. Hell, even toss 'em up with a strip of bacon and some chopped steak and you'll still lose weight like crazy.

The number one way to stop obesity is to teach people how awful overly processed, carb/sugar-laden food is. The 90's 'fat is bad' set us back about 5 steps in the fight against countrywide obesity.

[Anonymous No.10855675]

>>10854043
>weight loss specialist
>is overweight

[Anonymous No.10855677]

>>10855646

>thermodynamics

fucking idiot.

your body isn't a fire. thermodynamics have nothing, NOTHING to do with your weight.

[Acbn !7CUUUUUUUU No.10855683]

>>10853815

Remove public health insurance and reliance on automobiles by removing zoning laws

[Anonymous No.10855684]

>>10855623
because THEY put the shit everywhere... are you thick or just trolling?

[Anonymous No.10855692]

>>10855677
its all energy, anon, or is this just shitty bait?

[Anonymous No.10855702]

>>10855677
I can never tell if a post like this is trolling or a genuine retard.

[Anonymous No.10855713]

>>10855664
the mistake is not realizing that it's mostly irrelevant.
any law of physics applies to a human being, including Maxwell's equations.
knowing those equations doesn't help though you figure out how to build muscle.

in the case of weight loss, many people are getting something called metabolic syndrome.
it's something that mainly has to do with hormones, hunger, satiety, blood sugar, and metabolism.
calories in isn't something that's easily fixed. it's highly dependent on hunger and satiety.
calories out isn't fixed either. it depends on vitality (how energetic you feel), metabolism, and NEAT (non-exercise activity thermogenesis).

[Anonymous No.10855719]

>>10855661
I can’t speak for other countries, but I know in the US the government literally told people to eat a ton of carbs and then after that everyone gained a bunch of weight. That’s not a coincidence. Also they tell you to eat breakfast and when you do eat a ton of sugary shit. Then you have to eat a snack and they serve snacks in school.

Also, companies literally pay researchers to tell them that their product is good, example chocolate companies. Companies fight to get their products in schools. Companies know that sugar is addictive hence why they put so much in their foods. They have to keep you buying their products or they won’t make money.

Yes, weight loss is hard work, but like unfortunately your example isn’t all that off, because addicts can go back. Addicts always have to be on their toes otherwise there is a possibility that they can go back to the way they were before. I didn’t say that it was easy, but there are just better solutions than just calorie counting and going to the gym.

[Anonymous No.10855720]

>>10855684
>because THEY put the shit everywhere... are you thick or just trolling?
I'm just wondering why you keep blaming other people for your own decisions.

I walk past vending machines, gas stations, and various hawkers on a daily basis. Online I am bombarded with ads for this that and the other. I never buy any of it. Just because "they" push it on you doesn't mean that YOU have to take it.

You can try to pin the blame on someone else if you want to but ultimately at the end it's always a personal choice whether to light that cigarette, pound that Monster, or face-cram that burger. You don't need "Them" to stop putting candy in the checkout isle, you simply choose not to buy it.

[Anonymous No.10855723]

>>10855674
Some veggies have a ton of carbs which turns into sugar, too.

[Anonymous No.10855726]

>>10855720
i don't buy it either. my bmi is actually on the skinny side and it has been all of my life. i also smoke cigarettes though, so whatever.
it just breaks my heart to see kids who can barely walk because they're so god damn fat and then hear assholes like you blaming them for it.