/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.10710205]

What's a healthy alternative to water or soda? I really want to cut soda out but water lacks flavor. Is there anything healthy?

[Anonymous No.10710214]

Tea

[Anonymous No.10710220]

>>10710214
What kinds would you recommend?

[Anonymous No.10710232]

>>10710220
Go to a local tea store and smell stuff. That's the best way to find teas you might like.

[Anonymous No.10710238]

>>10710205
Flavored seltzer. You get both flavor and bubbles. Make sure it is unsweetened, some have artificial sweeteners.

[Anonymous No.10710260]

>>10710220
Green is good if you want caffeine, when I don’t want caffeine I usually go with chamomille. But there are a ton of different flavors, get variety packs to see which you like best

[Anonymous No.10710267]

>>10710205
>I really want to cut soda out but water lacks flavor
you really deserve to lose your foot desu la'

[Anonymous No.10710316]

Soda water. Get it flavored if you want. I've cut out pop almost completely for it.

[Anonymous No.10710377]

>>10710238
this

[Anonymous No.10710430]

>>10710205
Homemade limeade. Soda's disgusted me for a long time now, but this has a third of the sugar and is actually tasty, plus it's satisfying to make a nice drink.

In a pint glass or large cup:
>tablespoon of sugar
>tablespoon and a half (half a shotglass since this drink's adapted from my cocktail experience)
>some water
>stir until sugar is mostly dissolved
>add ice
>top with water to taste, stir again

Works well with raw sugars like muscovado, or brown sugar if you can't find it/don't want to order online, or just white sugar if you don't want molasses flavor

[Anonymous No.10710436]

>>10710205
Stop being fat. You don't need flavor every time you drink something.

[Anonymous No.10710438]

>>10710205
vodka

[Anonymous No.10710440]

I've been drinking reduced sugar Gatorade for a few months, I almost never want soda any more.

[Anonymous No.10710442]

>>10710205
>A million years of evolution and this fatass can't drink water

please don't breed

[Anonymous No.10710447]

>>10710440
That's because you're constantly drinking soda.

[Anonymous No.10710461]

>>10710447
Did you want to take a second chance at shitposting? I can wait if you want to think about your post first.

[Anonymous No.10710512]

>>10710461
I'll stand my ground that Gatorade is soda and you're gulping it constantly. I don't mind but that's probably the reason why you don't want more of it.

[Anonymous No.10710527]

>>10710512
>you're gulping it constantly
Says who?

[Anonymous No.10710541]

water. fucking drink water.

[Anonymous No.10710543]

LaCroix

[Anonymous No.10710565]

>>10710205
>What's a healthy alternative to water
the state of the land of the free

[Anonymous No.10710575]

>>10710205
>healthy alternative to water
>water lacks flavor
do americans really do this?

[Anonymous No.10711140]

>>10710543
This

[Anonymous No.10711148]

>>10710205
Light beer. It's halfway to water, but gives the doctor recommended dose of alcohol.

[Anonymous No.10711158]

Hop water

[Anonymous No.10711162]

>>10710575
water pretty objectively lacks flavor

[Anonymous No.10711176]

>>10710220
Find ones with strong flavor that go good with sugar. It’ll help web you off of soda

[Anonymous No.10711192]

>>10710220>>10710214

Just literally go down to your local store and get some cheap Earl Grey or English Breakfast since it sounds like you have had no experiences with tea before. no point if you're planning on drinking it like water.

[Anonymous No.10711193]

>>10711140
That's fucking soda.

[Anonymous No.10711195]

I drink a probably unhealthy amount of mio. 1 bottle of mio to every 1 bottle of water, typically.

[Anonymous No.10711206]

>>10711162
Maybe you'd have a point if people actually drank deionized water.

[Anonymous No.10711223]

>>10711195
How in the fuck? 3 sprays is too much for my 40oz water bottle

[Anonymous No.10711233]

>>10711206
In most places the various ions present are in rather low concentrations relative to the threshold needed to taste them. I mean if you have a rural well, you are certainly going to get some taste out of that but normally treated municipal water that most people drink is rather neutral

[Anonymous No.10711240]

>>10711206
>But if you can taste that something is different or off about deionized water, doesn't that mean it has a flavor?

[Anonymous No.10711245]

>>10710220
plain green tea.

[Anonymous No.10711251]

>>10711240
When people say "lack" of flavor, they mean it as a quantitative thing, not a qualitative thing. They usually do not mean that it literally cannot be perceived by the tongue. They mean it has less flavor than other common alternatives.

Take light beer for example. basically the poster boy for a thing that lacks flavor, this is because other beer is really good an flavorful relative to this product, not because light beer is literally imperceptible

[Anonymous No.10711255]

Does everything you put in you fat mouth need flavor?

[Anonymous No.10711258]

>>10711233
Yeah, and studies show you can't taste the difference between HFCS and cane sugar coke. And you've gotta be a real chud to drink municipal water straight from the tap. Get da fuggoutta here.

[Anonymous No.10711260]

>>10710220
For me, it's constant comment.

Add a dash of milk and maybe a 10th of a spoonful of sugar if you're a pussy.

[Anonymous No.10711262]

>>10711258
>And you've gotta be a real chud to drink municipal water straight from the tap.
maybe in a third world country, or the south, but if you are a Northern American there is literally no reason not to

[Anonymous No.10711270]

>>10711258
>and studies show you can't taste the difference between HFCS and cane sugar coke
I mean, this is definitely true, its 100% marketing bullshit

Also, keep in mind that most bottled water just comes from municipal sources

[Anonymous No.10711277]

>>10711262
Because of added chemicals in the treatments? When I lived in the shithole of "Chicagoland," you have to leave the pitcher out for at least an hour for the chlorine to evaporate off.

Now I drink spring water because our well is technically potable, but iron-rich. I'm sure New York is great for bagels, but most city dwellers I know have Britas, and most municipal suburbans/rurals have their own problems. One town over the water could be delicious, the other could mean I can't set up a sprinkler system without staining the sidewalk. You have no idea what you're talking about.

[Anonymous No.10711292]

>>10711270
I can taste it easily, that's why grocery stores still carry cane sugar coke in the Mexican aisle, and Pepsi brought back "throwback," editions. The marketing is that, "We cheaped out with government corn subsidies, and we pay these people to tell you that you can't taste the difference!"

[Anonymous No.10711294]

>>10710205
Fennel tea. Drinking it feels like sweating on the inside in the most pleasant way.

[Anonymous No.10711298]

>>10711277
>When I lived in the shithole of "Chicagoland," you have to leave the pitcher out for at least an hour for the chlorine to evaporate off.
Why would you ever worry about the chlorine added to water?

[Anonymous No.10711304]

>>10711292
>that's why grocery stores still carry cane sugar coke in the Mexican aisle, and Pepsi brought back "throwback," editions
They do it because people like buying variants of things they like, and controlling shelf space is pretty beneficial. Same reason there are like 2 new colors of Mountain Dew every year.

No one blindly taste the difference between coke with corn sugar vs coke with cane sugar if both are served from a similar bottle type

[Anonymous No.10711307]

>>10711270
>Also, keep in mind that most bottled water just comes from municipal sources
If you think that somehow negates the value of bottled water, you clearly have lived your entire life within 30 miles of your birthplace

[Anonymous No.10711309]

>>10710512
Gatorade has sugar but isnt soda. Are you autistic?

[Anonymous No.10711319]

>>10711307
The value of bottled water 100% comes from its convenient portability and 0% from the chemical makeup of the stuff dissolved in the water

[Anonymous No.10711324]

>>10711298
Gee, because even their local television stations run PSAs about overchlorination and what to do before drinking the tap water?

>>10711304
It may not, "taste," different (I believe it does) but the viscosity between simple syrup and corn syrup is very obvious. Shit, this is /ck/. Next you're going to say that iodized salt tastes the same as kosher salt tastes the same as MSG. They don't.

[Anonymous No.10711326]

>>10710205
Arizona arnold palmer zero. lots of flavor, zero nutritional content.

[Anonymous No.10711341]

>>10711324
>Gee, because even their local television stations run PSAs about overchlorination and what to do before drinking the tap water?
I am completely unfamiliar with this trend. Interesting, I am a little suspicious though. Is it just because Chicago's infrastructure is super old, an their sewers are basically openly connected to their waterways?

[Anonymous No.10711359]

>>10711324
>but the viscosity between simple syrup and corn syrup is very obvious
Not when diluted to soda levels. No fucking way can you feel a difference of viscosity between corn-coke an cane-coke in your mouth

> that iodized salt tastes the same as kosher salt
The only difference is the rate at which they dissolve because of the surface area to volume, the iodide is not perceptible at such low concentrations
>the same as MSG
Why would I possibly say they taste the same as MSG, a different chemical with different receptors on your tongue?

[Anonymous No.10711372]

>>10711341
Can't tell ya, but I can say that water treatment is an ultimate good, but subjects you to hazardous amounts of chemical additives. At least the chlorine has a high evaporation rate, so that was barely an inconvenience if I was doing it by the gallon.

[Anonymous No.10711385]

>>10711193
Doesn’t have sugar dumbass

[Anonymous No.10711387]

>>10711359
I can taste the difference. Quit being a pedant. America's Test Kitchen also had blind tests that water with bay leaves were indistinguishable from just plain, but the entire cooking world is going to call you a retard if you start saying that adding a bay leaf or three to your pot is a scam. Likewise, fuck off.

[Anonymous No.10711404]

>>10711372
So after googling it a bit, I cannot find a single source saying Chicago adds too much chlorine and that you should let it sit before drinking

Lake Michigan is an excellent source of clean water, and the added chlorine levels even in Chicago are apparently normal and not hazardous. I cannot find any references to this PAS you cite

[Anonymous No.10711409]

>>10711387
So being superstitious and ignoring actual data and science is good if tradition supports you?

[Anonymous No.10711434]

>>10711409
Not tradition, personal experience.

For example, the ATK bullshit about bay leaves is easily disproven yourself. I suspect it was a case of bad science being performed: use subpar ingredients and get subpar results. It's the same fuckup as a noob lab tech using expired reagents and wondering why the results don't make sense.

[Anonymous No.10711447]

>>10711434
Human experience is notoriously influenced by preconceptions and expectations, hence the "marketing bullshit"

[Anonymous No.10711455]

>>10711404
Prolonged exposure is potentially hazardous, the regular treatment wouldn't be or people would be suing the shit out of them. All of the several forced-roommates and classmates to people I know downtown to people who have lived there in the past say the same thing, and a cursory glance of plugging
>chicago leave tap water out chlorine
leaves quite a few hits plastered on the front page of the search results. Either way, I'm passing on learned common knowledge.

[Anonymous No.10711467]

>>10711434
>this one specific case I brought up that no one had ever cited or even heard of may not have been accurate so the very concept of science and data collection is flawed and actually human emotion and feelings is more important than data
Solid logic

[Anonymous No.10711474]

>>10711455
>Either way, I'm passing on learned common knowledge
Its called an "old wive's tale" you are spreading baseless superstition. I have spent plenty of time in Chicago, the water is good. The only time you would want to consider filtering it is if you have shitty ass old pipes connecting your place to the city network. There is literally no reason to try an evaporate the chlorine out of your water

[Anonymous No.10711477]

>>10711467
That's a different anon, I was the ATK bay leaves poster and left to grab a beer. I don't really feel like posting more against this pedantry, but carry on without me.

[Anonymous No.10711478]

>>10711455
>Prolonged exposure is potentially hazardous
Do you have any that suggests prolonged exposure to the chlorine levels present in drinking water is hazardous?

[Anonymous No.10711489]

>>10711477
So not buying into marketing bullshit is pedantry in your book? Its literally the exact opposite. If anything having strong opinions about trivially different sodas is the pedantic stance

[Anonymous No.10711492]

>>10711474
Yeah, I'm sure those city-funded, televised PSAs lied to me as old wives tales. Yutz.

[Anonymous No.10711500]

>>10711489
Sugar is the second main ingredient after water in soda, I wouldn't quite call it a trivial ingredient.

[Anonymous No.10711503]

Every time I get thirsty for soda I drink about 200ml of Robitussin.

[Anonymous No.10711541]

>>10710543
Overpriced. Get sparking water or club soda and mix a little lemon juice in with it.

[Anonymous No.10711553]

>>10711304
>No one blindly taste the difference between coke with corn sugar vs coke with cane sugar if both are served from a similar bottle type
^This, you're falling for a combination of marketing memes and a retarded distrust of corn.
https://drinks.seriouseats.com/2011/09/the-food-lab-drinks-edition-is-mexican-coke-better-than-regular-coke-coke-taste-test-coke-vs-mexican-coke.html

[Anonymous No.10711558]

>>10711492
Please link to one. I am genuinely curious and I cannot find any references to them

[Anonymous No.10711561]

>>10711262
>tfw 42F

[Anonymous No.10711563]

>>10711500
The ingredient is definitely not trivial, the variation between them is

[Anonymous No.10711564]

>>10711553
And glass bottle tastes better than plastic. You can't quantify that shit. I'm sure good indicia gets me like good sativa, but I couldn't tell you the difference even if one's vaped and the other's in a blunt.

[Anonymous No.10711570]

>>10711564
I have no idea what point you're trying to make.
Sativa vs. Indica is also a meme though, the difference is less in effects than people believe.

[Anonymous No.10711579]

>>10711570
The point is that you can't quantify in metrics a subjective experience. I say that I can tell if it's sugar or HFCS, you say it's psychological. I say I don't like Heiniken, and someone else says all beer tastes the same and it's meme labeling. Can't really convince me that my tastes are wrong. Oh, I hold some tastes that are objectively bad, like my weakness for chili cheese dogs with the fake squirt cheese and chili, but you can't tell me my perception of taste is wrong.

[Anonymous No.10711587]

>>10711579
You can quantify it easily, it's called statistics and controlled taste tests.

[Anonymous No.10711592]

>>10711277
>you have to leave the pitcher out for at least an hour for the chlorine to evaporate off.
They use chloramines now, doesn't evaporate. Good for when you're in the shower, a lot less lung irritation.
You can nuetralize chlorine and chloramines instantly with a tiny bit of vitamin C powder.

>>10711298
Any amount of chlorine is too much if you're ingesting it.

[Anonymous No.10711593]

>>10711587
Which are all individually subjective, and which if you've taken any statistics 101 class you'd know that's a dirty word when talking about objective reasoning.

Just cuz jack 2-packs-a-day can't tell the difference between grass fed and commercial-feed beef, it doesn't mean a damn thing to me. Most people can't tell the difference between their dick and the zipper in their pants.

[Anonymous No.10711600]

>>10711304
>No one blindly taste the difference between coke with corn sugar vs coke with cane sugar if both are served from a similar bottle type
Yeah you can. Cane sugar doesn't taste as sweet, gram for gram. And I'm pretty sure the cane sugar ones don't have any more sugar.

[Anonymous No.10711615]

>>10711579
>>10711593
No you idiot, people overrate the reliability of their own perceptions constantly, that's why you need actual studies and can't just go off of your crap self-referential opinion.
Just because you believe you're noticing a difference doesn't mean you are. You can get pro wine taste testers to believe they're tasting all sorts of differences that aren't there by taking the same wine and adding food dye to it.

[Anonymous No.10711620]

>>10711615
Ah yes, science, haha, dude I love science.

[Anonymous No.10711627]

>>10711593
Also subjectivity isn't a problem for statistics. You don't measure their bullshit subjectivity, you measure the answers written down.

[Anonymous No.10711635]

>>10711615
>you can't just go off your own opinion
>you need some other dipshits to reaffirm it first
Yes, we all know these stupid buzzfeed wine tasters who ohmygerd can't tell good wine from Franzia and Gallo! Everything we know is a lie and I'm much smarter than everyone else!

No faggot, I can taste the difference. I can also tell you which hard liquors I like even though statistically it would all just taste like burning if given to a bunch of dickshits for their statistical analysis.

[Anonymous No.10711637]

>>10711620
Acting like even more of a retard isn't going to make your bullshit beliefs based on nothing come true FYI.

[Anonymous No.10711644]

>>10711627
>you measure the answers written down.
What, so now if I write down my opinion it becomes objective? Are you fucking high? By that measure, everything I've written so far blows you the fuck out then, since it must be objectively true after I typed it.

[Anonymous No.10711647]

>>10711635
Everyone thinks they're special and really know the difference.
You're just wrong, that's all.

[Anonymous No.10711661]

>>10711644
Yes, except you have many different people write down their opinions and what any one person says is largely irrelevant (making your attempted argument anecdotal garbage with zero impact), it's the trends that matter, not you.
Go read a book.

[Anonymous No.10711670]

>>10711579
>Can't really convince me that my tastes are wrong
Yeah, thats the whole point of the blind tasting, and the reason soda companies can make so much money from marketing

[Anonymous No.10711675]

>>10711592
>Any amount of chlorine is too much if you're ingesting it.
This is definitely not true. Water chlorination is ubiquitous and beneficial to public health

[Anonymous No.10711677]

>>10711637
>"lalalalalalalalalal science"

kys fuccboi

[Anonymous No.10711682]

>>10711661
The majority of the population is a pack of goddamn retards, statistically speaking. Especially the kind that would be grouped into an actual statistical study. Either retarded college kids or the kind of senile bastards who actually pick up the landline phone and answer survey questions.

>>10711670
And most soda is garbage, I really don't care that it satiates the lowest common denominator. Remember McCafe? It made better coffee initially, but survey says that Americans need to drink burnt-to-shit coffee to like it, so they started making shitty coffee.

[Anonymous No.10711696]

>>10711677
Always know your point is solid when you start bringing out the science is bad arguments

[Anonymous No.10711740]

>>10711682
>The majority of the population is a pack of goddamn retards
Except you can get the same effects even with pro taste testers.
You can't seriously believe you're the first person to think of talent or credentials as an issue with these. It's not the issue, the issue is what anyone, be they laymen or experts, believe they're perceiving is heavily influenced by mental factors like expectation. In general everyone tends to overly trust and overrate the reliability o/ authenticity of their apparent perceptions.
In reality perception isn't some immediate raw experience, it's much more like a rationalized after the fact story about what you expected to experience.

[Anonymous No.10711768]

>>10711740
Wow, here's the second result on my cursory google of
>taste difference in soda pop sugar corn syrup hfcs
>https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/08/pepsi-taste-test_n_1327579.html
Looks like people can taste a difference, even if they have different perceptions. In unrelated news, food also tastes better when you're hungry, does that mean that I'm not allowed to determine if I think one burger is better than another because I don't have statistical data to back me up and I could've been hungrier that day? Get tha fuck outta here.

[Anonymous No.10711770]

>>10711682
>>10711740
Also for a good other example of how expectation changes what anyone (regardless of how refined their taste is) reports having perceived, there's the McGurk effect.
Without changing a sound in any way you can get people to report they heard it differently by having it played in conjunction with different visual footage.

[Anonymous No.10711777]

>>10711768
No, you didn't read the study that first anon was referring to, it controls for stuff that huff post crap didn't.
Try again though.

[Anonymous No.10711796]

>>10711777
All I did was state that I taste a difference, and plug in the first google result that stated the same. I don't know where you blindly get off that you're better than the fray and that everyone else is too retarded to form their own opinions. Busch Light and Keystone Light are both shitty light american adjunct lagers, but I can still definitely taste the difference between the two, despite using virtually the same ingredients.

[Anonymous No.10711938]

>>10710205
>What's a healthy alternative to water or soda?
For me, it's a cup of coffee or a glass of milk

[Anonymous No.10711979]

>>10710205
OJ with the pulp is much better than soda, full of sugar though, but you can't get much better than water for a healthy drink unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.10711990]

>>10710238
>flavor
Yeah, printed on the can. Otherwise it's just bitter bubbly water

[Anonymous No.10712157]

>>10710232
This. Added bonus of different teas do different shit. Some are refreshing, some are better hot or chilled, some are relaxing. There are a lot of legal herbs you can make tea out of that give you a bit of a buzz too. Mugwort makes me feel chill, sedated and trance like while Yarrow makes me feel giggly and everything look shiny kinda like being a little high.

[Anonymous No.10712170]

>>10710205
Smoke weed and water will be the most amazing, refreshing and delicious thing you'll want to drink.
Just don't give into the munchies, it's all in your head and it goes away after a while if you ignore it.

[Anonymous No.10712177]

>>10710220
Sweet Tea, you commie

[Anonymous No.10712589]

>>10710238
>>10710377
Thirded.

[Anonymous No.10712842]

>>10710220
adagio.com get a sampler pack and then go to a local tea shop and ask more about the types you enjoyed.

[Anonymous No.10712846]

>>10710267
fun fact you've got an 80% chance of death within 2 years after a diabetes-related amputation.

[Anonymous No.10713236]

>>10710205
nothing better or healthier than water moron

[Anonymous No.10713259]

>water lacks flavour
does everything you throw down your fat gullet have to taste like something? you're really incapable of enjoying the basic human satisfaction of hydration? burgers really are subhuman.

[Anonymous No.10713270]

>>10711176
This.
>>10710205
>>10710220
Kava tea or Ginger tea are good because they don't need sugar, milk, honey, ect to taste good like a lot of other flavors.

>>10712177
No, a lot of sweet teas have as much, if not more, calories than soda.

[Anonymous No.10713276]

>>10710238
he said healthy, most seltzer is highly acidic

[Anonymous No.10713293]

>>10710220

[Anonymous No.10713343]

>>10710436
>>10710442
This desu

>>10710205
OP you don't have to taste something sweet every time you eat. Your complaint about water "lacking flavor" just tells me how fat you are, and yeah it's good that you're looking for healthy alternatives to soda, but you need to learn to drink just plain good water. Looking for something else sweet to drink just encourages your sugar addiction. You shouldn't drink sweet drinks.

If you can make black coffee or plain tea work, good. If not, don't look for something with artificial sweeteners or sweetened tea or something, and definitely not juice.

[Anonymons No.10713354]

>water lacks flavor.
just get used to it
if you always need flavor, you'll always be fat

[Anonymous No.10713382]

>>10711192
>get some cheap Earl Grey or English Breakfast since it sounds like you have had no experiences with tea before
Bad advice. Earl Grey is not good for someone coming off of soda. It will taste highly bitter.

My advice for coming off of sweet drinks is to try the fruit flavored herbal teas as it will taste similar to juice when cold and lightly sweetened.
Also cover your bases before you decide:
Black, green, white, and chai if you like spices. Spices as in "pumpkin spice" not Tabasco.
Hopefully you can find a variety pack or something so you don't spend twenty bucks on something new.
If you don't like any of these, even sweetened, you'll either need to try forcing yourself to get used to the "least gross" one or figure it's not for you.
Try adding milk to black tea if you like coffee.

[Anonymous No.10713399]

>>10711277
>I'm sure New York is great for bagels, but most city dwellers I know have Britas
What? Don't know what you're talking about. NY is known for having one of the best tap waters, especially NYC. Could drink it straight out of the faucet. My mom eventually bought a Brita because she got memed into the whole "cleaner and better taste" thing. City folk trying to be fancy doesn't mean the water has orange sulfur in it.

[Anonymous No.10713414]

>>10713293
this recipe is so infantilising to the consumer i can barely read it

[Anonymous No.10713421]

>>10710205
>a healthy alternative to water

[Anonymous No.10713437]

>>10710205
Blend 1/4 of the good stuff of a watermelon with 1 quart of water, this will make roughly a gallon of delicious watermelon pulp, you can strain the fibers out but i prefer to keep it in. You can firther dilute it to your preference.

[Anonymous No.10713513]

>Water lacks flavor
you fat fuck

[Anonymous No.10713927]

>>10710205
Goddamnit this again, try to think water as a "cleaner" for the aftertaste everytime you finish your meal. It may not perfectly clean the aftertaste but nevertheless keep that mindset

[Anonymous No.10714317]

>>10711262
>tfw 62

[Anonymous No.10714333]

>>10714317
What is worse? Being blissfully ignorant of how bad things really are or being aware of it and knowing there is nothing you can do to stop it.

I want off this ride.

[Anonymous No.10714349]

>>10710205
Just drink water you stupid cunt.