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I've been a vegetarian/vegan for about five years, and just recently started eating meat and animal products again. I had to give up vegetarianism due to multiple health problems, such as an incredibly weak immune system, fatique, hair loss etc. It seems like at least MY body couldn't absorb all the required nutrients from plant based foods or supplements. For example my thinning hair started to regrow as soon as I started eating meat again and now I have more hair than probably ever before.

I've been eating meat for about two to three months now, and I've started to experience constant pain in my bones and muscles. It's almost as if I'd have growing pains. Do you have an explanation for these symptoms? It's starting to feel quite disturbing. Could it be possible that I'm still growing? I stopped growing around the age of 17-18, and that's also when I turned vegetarian. Could it be that the vegetarian diet was so bad for me, that it stopped me from reaching my full height potential, and now that I'm eating right I've started to grow again? I've heard that men can grow till their mid twenties. I'm 23 now and standing at 198cm/6'6 though, but these mysterious pains feel exactly like growing pains.

>> No.10619156

For the love of god, why don't you just go to a doctor if you're feeling like this?

>> No.10619171

I thought that the pains would disappear quite quickly, since it's clear that they are caused by my dietary change. I mean I thought that my body would get used to this change, but it doesn't seem like that, but It's only been a couple of months.

All the the health problems caused by vegetarianism have disappeared though.

>> No.10619184

>>10619151
>incredibly weak immune system, fatigue, hair loss etc.
were you eating a lot of broccoli/cabbage/asparagus, and few if any cranberries? That sounds like a classic thyroid case dude, you've probably been iodine (& T4 & growth hormone) deficient for years.

If that was the case, you're just getting rebound thyroid-->pituitary activity now to make up for the lost time.

>> No.10619191

>I stopped growing around the age of 17-18, and that's also when I turned vegetarian.

what a coincidence

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>>10619184
Pic related. Meat, esp. seafood, increases thyroid function while "goitreogenic" veg like broccoli and soy impair it.

>> No.10619215

>>10619184
I was eating quite a lot of broccoli. My blood tests were also always just fine as a vegetarian, but they don't measure the vitamin/nutrient levels here.

I also always asked the doctors that could me being a vegetarian have something to do with my weak immune system, and they replied always that my tests are just fine, and that it shouldn't have anything to do with it.

>> No.10619227

>>10619215
If you're in the UK your thyroid would not get tested with the regular bloods.

>> No.10619229

>>10619191
My growth had slowed down significantly before that also, so It might have been just natural. Like between the ages of 16-17 I grew maybe one cm.

>> No.10619241

>>10619227
I didn't get it right away since the word thyroid is so different from the word that we use in my native language. Yes, that is actually always included in the regular blood tests here, and I had no problems with my thyroid levels.

>> No.10619303

>>10619151
Nah son you got boneitus. Only thing you can do is get frozen till they find a cure.

>> No.10619335

>>10619303
Thanks, for the advice, I'll try to freeze myself asap

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>FALSE FLAGGING THE THREAD
Daily reminder that Veganism is healthier, stronger, sexier, better

>> No.10619376

>>10619356
i don't believe you

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>>10619356

>> No.10619394

>>10619151
lol OP's body is shocked by all the protein

>> No.10619434

>>10619151
you are evolving into shaquille oneal. every generation the mantle of Big Aristotle has to get passed on, sounds like ur the recipient.

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>>10619151
I don't believe any of this and I think this is a thinly veiled anti-veggiefag thread. If you want to eat meat then that's fine but don't shit up the catalog with this nonsense, it's just as bad as people making threads about how they're superior for not eating meat.

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>>10619384
>>10619376
>Proof that OP is farming (you)s
You don't deserve Veganism OP. You're just a post-plebbit meatcuck.

>> No.10619521

>>10619462
First of all I became vegetarian, because eating meat disgusts me. The idea of eating dead corpses isn't pleasing to me in any way. I've also always been very private when it comes to my eating habits, and I was never the preachy type of vegetarian. I don't have any agenda. Eating meat was getting very difficult due to the disgust I felt, so I just wanted to find an alternative to make my life easier. I never became vegetarian because of ethical reasons.

When your health has been absolutely fucked for two years, you need to ask yourself the question, what am I doing differently than most people? Why am I ill? I tried everything else before, I started eating meat. Now I'm forcing myself to eat animal products, since it seems like my body can't do well without them. I for example ate multiple different sources of iron, and even iron supplements, and only after I started eating meat did my thinning hair regrow. So my body couldn't clearly absorb any of those iron sources properly, and my hairloss was luckily caused by a deficiency.

>> No.10619527

>>10619512
>deserve Veganism
proof veganism is not about animals but a way to feel falsely superior to others

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>>10619527
That's your cognitive dissonance and guilt speaking

>>10619521
Nice fake blog, meatcuck

>> No.10619541

>>10619530
Maybe vegetarianism/veganism works better for other people. After all, we're all slightly different.

I was feeling pretty good for the first two to three years, but after that my health absolutely crashed. During the last year It was difficult for me to go over a month without getting sick. I thought that I'd never eat meat again, but this is what happened. Is it so hard to believe?

>> No.10619561

>>10619530
kek. big feet, big dick. guess you wouldn't understand though.

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>>10619561
Studies prove that vegans are better in bed and that meat lowers libido and gives you erection problems. Keep cucking yourself with your dumb-hole, faggot.

>> No.10619598

>>10619583
gay sex is better than straight sex, what else is new

>> No.10619602

>>10619521
>Why am I ill?
I'm guessing that you put together an ineffective diet. Lack of protein/iron/calories is what often causes hair loss in vegetarians, you only need to fuck up on one and it'll affect more than hair loss and if you were taking supplements in addition to other sources of iron I don't think iron's the culprit. I'm not going to tell you not to eat meat, I eat meat, but you were probably just missing something and if you really want to avoid meat because you don't want dead animal in your mouth then look into getting more protein and calories in other ways.

>> No.10619659

>>10619156
Do Europeans really do this...?

>> No.10619677

>>10619151
>I've been eating meat for about two to three months now, and I've started to experience constant pain in my bones and muscles. It's almost as if I'd have growing pains. Do you have an explanation for these symptoms?

from your very first statements, you sound like a hypochondriac or someone who is really stressed out/anxious about health, saying weird shit like "my body couldn't absorb all the required nutrients"

do you HAVE a digestive disorder? you are still growing until 25 btw.

>> No.10620055

>>10619602
Might be, but I don't think protein or calories was a problem for me, since I always made sure that I have diverse sources of protein and I've always eaten a lot of carbs. I've probably been deficient in vitamin D at least, since I live in Northern Europe and our exposure to sunlight is very limited.

I'm no super expert on nutrition, but all I know is that I felt very energized right away after my first steak. I'm planning on eating at least a 50% vegetarian diet though.

>> No.10620060

>>10619151
i stopped growing with 12 :(

>> No.10620065

>>10619677
You're right I'm a pretty anxious and neurotic person in general, and yes a lot of my anxiety seems to get projected to health and nutrition. That's probably why I went vegetarian in the first place. Once I start to think too much about what it is that I'm actually eating I start to feel disgust.

No I have no digestive problems.

>> No.10620068 [DELETED] 

Holy shit this vegan cuckold lmao

>> No.10620077

>>10619151
Could be several things. You are having muscle pains due to inflammation most likely. You're body doesn't know what the fuck is going on, and this is the first time in years your immune system has had enough energy to produce histamine.

Perhaps your HGH can finally do it's job with the protein available and fix all of the cells you've damaged, again causing inflammation.

Just take 1600 mg of ibuprofen, if the pain subsides a bit you'll be fine.

>> No.10620116

>>10620077
Thanks for your advice! Are you saying that there's some essential nutrients found in meat, that I'm now getting, and that leads to a healthier immune system or just energy in general? I mean I haven't been starving while being vegetarian.

>> No.10620204

>>10619151
Serves you right, bitch

>> No.10620235

>>10620204
:( :( :( :( :(

>> No.10620268

>>10619151
Sounds like your body is fighting an infection. Often the reason is a tooth abscess.

>> No.10620996

>>10619512
>You don't deserve Veganism OP.
Can you be anymore stereotypical? Someone falls out of your creepy cult and you yell "Shame!" I'm vegan - the post.

>> No.10622845

I've never been vegan but sometimes i feel like i'm tired of eating meat

>> No.10622851

>>10622845
what kind of autism do you have?

>> No.10622899

>>10622851
it just feels like a lot going through my body sometimes

>> No.10622913

>>10622899
>a lot going through my body
try bullets next time.

>> No.10622916

>>10619659
Well, i don`t have copayments with my free health insurance.

>> No.10622952

>>10619151
>experience constant pain in my bones
Go to a doctor and get full bloodwork done. No one on 4chan knows enough to help you. What does it even mean if they don't check your vitamins?

>> No.10622992

>>10622952
I'll book an appointment next week. I guess they take all the tests that might show if there's something wrong with you, such as the amount of red and white blood cells, thyroid levels, hemoglobin etc, and if there's something wrong with you they'll try to get to the root of the problem. Vitamin levels aren't included in regular tests. The list of the tests they take is pretty long though.

I live in a public health care country, so maybe they're trying to save money or something.

>> No.10623015

>>10619206
Wait fluoride? Isn't that the shit in the water that pisses hippies off? Does it actually fuck your shit up?

>> No.10623104

>>10623015
Do you really not know what fucking fluoride is?

>> No.10623122

>>10623015
That's a hippy anon. You should've known the moment he posted the pop health website macro.

>> No.10623623

>>10623015
putting fluoride into the water is indeed retarded.
impossible to get the doseage right.
in my country fluoride is carefully supplemented to kids in their teeth growing age to form strong enamel and that's it.