/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.10571681]

What do you guys think of ketogenic diets?

[Anonymous No.10571688]

>>10571681
A garbage choice for most but appealing to those that don't have the self-control to limit processed carbs and sugar in a normal diet. Most who adhere to it do it improperly leading to even more health issues.

[Anonymous No.10571689]

>>10571681
useful if done right. IF.

[Anonymous No.10571692]

>>10571681
I think they're dumb as shit and ultimately unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.10571700]

I think it's better to improve on a normal diet that gives you nutrients all humans eat and look for, rather than being neurotic about sugar or flour and accepting liver/kidney failure as a risk of your chosen excuse to not eat less and move more.

[Anonymous No.10571701]

>>10571688
>eating veggies, meat, nuts and fruit leads to health issues

[Anonymous No.10571707]

>>10571700
>a lack of sugar and flour leads to liver and kidney failure

Imbecile.

[Anonymous No.10571710]

>>10571701
0/10 reading comprehension.

[Anonymous No.10571711]

Want to lose weight? Eat less calories. Was that hard?

[Anonymous No.10571716]

>>10571711
yes

[Anonymous No.10571717]

>>10571707
Ketosis might. So yeah, taken as a strict logical proposition, it could. Don't be so rash, Anon.

[Anonymous No.10571722]

>>10571681
I think like mit things that people cultishy cling to, there's an aspect of good advice that's drowned in a lot of bullshit and misinformation. Yes, protein and fat are essential parts of the human diet, but you don't need to completely eliminate carbs to be healthy. You just need to eat a balanced diet and get plenty of exercise.

[Anonymous No.10571733]

>>10571681
if there's a gateway to becoming the übermensch then it's keto and fasting. carbcucks will be servants in the empire of ketokings.

[Anonymous No.10571753]

>>10571700
There are no nutrients in plants.
>>10571681
Vastly inferior to a primal diet as it still includes unnecessary v*getables and cooking (destroying) food.

[Anonymous No.10571759]

>>10571753
>There are no nutrients in plants
Thanks, I needed a good laugh today

[Anonymous No.10571767]

>>10571753
>no nutrients in plants
I can't tell if you're stupid or you're just baiting with a no-effort troll.

[Anonymous No.10571769]

>>10571753
Good thing God makes cows fat as a reward for turning all that grass into poop.

[Anonymous No.10571787]

>>10571759
>>10571767
You literally do not digest any of it, you are not a cow. Plants do literally nothing for you except release glucose into the bloodstream.

[Anonymous No.10571825]

>>10571787
Stop, my sides can't take it.

[Anonymous No.10571838]

>>10571825
Nice non-argument you shit, there's a reason we can thrive on a diet consisting 100% of meat but not on a 100% plant one.

[Anonymous No.10571878]

>>10571838
Millions of Indians and Buddhists disagree with you. I don't know who the people in your pics are, but I'm pretty sure you're either trolling or just proselytizing like a bitch.

[Anonymous No.10571885]

>>10571838
Seriously, I'm in stitches. I can't take anymore

[Anonymous No.10571886]

>>10571878
There are literally zero (0) of those cultures that eat a 100% plant based diet. And even then, those countries are still full of functionally malnourished, ugly diseased manlets.

[Anonymous No.10571890]

>>10571838

/ck/ is the worst /r9k/ board

[Anonymous No.10571896]

>>10571886
Oh my God, stop. I can't breathe.

[Anonymous No.10571897]

>>10571886
Good thing vegans die after a month of veganism.

[Anonymous No.10571902]

>>10571897
They can survive a good while because they still have their own bodies to eat, but there is absolutely no way to thrive on a vegan diet. Nor a vegetarian diet for that matter.

[Anonymous No.10571925]

>>10571722
You do eat carbs on a keto diet, just not the high amount that's usually in most food.I get my daily amount of 20g from veggies. It's more filling than bread.

[Anonymous No.10571948]

Holy shit, funniest thread all week. Thanks /ck/.

[Anonymous No.10571973]

>>10571902
I'm gonna disagree with you on vegetarian diets. I think they can be very healthy if eggs, dairy, and occasional fish are eaten. You can still fuck it up by eating too much sugar and highly-processed garbage though. People always get all defensive about the titles of their favored diets, but when you take a closer look at what each individual really eats those classifications seem nutritionally arbitrary.

[Anonymous No.10572024]

It's good to get rid of as much refined sugar as possible, but it's fucking stupid to go out of your way to remove all carbohydrates from your diet.

if you want to cut down on "carbs," just make sure that whatever you're eating has protein in it because protein makes you feel full, thus making you crave fewer carb-based foods which generally don't fill you up. Also, use whole-grain flour whenever possible.

[Anonymous No.10572055]

It's fun because I can make shit like bacon wrapped ground beef covered weiners.

[Anonymous No.10572060]

>>10572055
These are nice.
Mixed the ground beef with a beaten egg, garlic powder, chilli flakes, oregano, pepper and some fresh grated parmesan.

[Anonymous No.10572188]

>>10571711
fuck that

[Anonymous No.10573192]

>>10571753
>There are no nutrients in plants.
god tier bait

[Anonymous No.10573195]

>>10572060
shit picture, but gonna try anyways.

[Anonymous No.10573196]

its an excuse for fat people to eat more fat

[Anonymous No.10573393]

>>10573192
They're all indigestible. You are not a cow.

[Anonymous No.10573398]

>>10573393
Your mum is.

[Anonymous No.10573866]

>>10573196
>eating fat makes you fat
>listening to music makes you a musician
>watching television makes you a movie star

[Anonymous No.10573892]

>>10573866
eating empty calories makes you fat including fat and sugar
take keto
cut out fat, increase protien, only get carbs from vegetables and you have weightloss too
heck the fucking hippy who ate 30,000 big macs eats two big macs a day and some fruit and water and barely eats 1800 calories a day

[Anonymous No.10573910]

Great way to lose weight fast but not very healthy.

If you do keto don't do it for more than 2 or 3 months.

[Anonymous No.10573922]

>>10571753
why is the earth not spinning in his example?

[Anonymous No.10573934]

>>10573393
>>10571787
There's a vast difference between digesting something (what we do to plants) and dismantling something into its basic building blocks and reassembling it into something completely different to meet all of your nutritional needs because you're physically specialized to eat grass (what ruminants do to plants).

Just because we don't break down and repurpose cell walls like cattle doesn't mean we don't break cell walls open and get the nutrition that plant cells hold.

[Anonymous No.10573937]

>>10571973
yup, lots of “vegans” eat mostly bread. im almost definite tgat i eat more vegetables than the average vegan

[Anonymous No.10573940]

it's gay shit for retards who are scared of bread but too young to remember what a failure Atkins was

[Anonymous No.10573942]

>>10573393
if that were true all vegans would die in a matter of days. i get what youre saying and agree that meat is more easily digested and has nutrition that you cant get from plants, but you are taking it to a ludicrous extreme.

[Anonymous No.10573948]

>>10573866
Do Americans Really Think This Way?

[Anonymous No.10573954]

>>10571711
If it was easy, there wouldn't be nearly as many obese people.

[Anonymous No.10573961]

>>10573940
>what a failure Atkins was
Hope you know that everyone says Atkins was right and he was demonized by the FDA and all their paid off cronies along with the media. They were still going off the fat causes you to be fat meme they got sold and only recently have they agreed it's due to sugar and refined carbs.

[Anonymous No.10573962]

>>10573948
Unfortunately yes, but you don't have to capitalize every word in a sentence.

[Anonymous No.10573974]

I don't eat carbohydrates ever and I have no ill effects. I just graduated with a 3.8 gpa

>muh brain fuel

[Anonymous No.10573978]

>>10573940
Man, I remember my parents doing the Atkins thing hardcore years ago, they bought books, Atkins-branded food, all that shit. Now the keto diet is all over /ck/ when I routinely saw people making fun of Atkins before. It's interesting.

[Anonymous No.10574057]

>>10571701
That would be doing it properly, so not what he's talking about.

[Anonymous No.10574640]

>>10573910
>source: my ass

[Anonymous No.10574672]

I have a general rule of thumb, anytime 4channers get absolutely booty blasted by someone asking about something there's probably something good about it.
I'm some Auschwitz looking manlet so I don't really need to diet but I worked with two different guys that were able to lose 15-20 pounds a month from doing it. It has a very simple premise. That's why it's easy for people to stick to. I think there are very few people who do it for any reason other than losing weight rapidly besides Joe Rogan.
All there wojak posters ITT are just lard asses who have to justify their being fat pieces of shit

[Anonymous No.10574684]

>>10573978
That's because the Atkins doet is done in phases. First phase is basically keto and then they introduce more carbs into the diet. That's why it fails people.

[Anonymous No.10574714]

>>10572055
Nice.
Carnivore diet is the only respectable way to do keto.
Vegan keto is kys tier.

[Anonymous No.10575887]

>>10574672
look up insulin resistance and sensitivity, and metabolic syndrome

[Anonymous No.10575898]

>>10571787
I think he's being serious lel.

[Anonymous No.10576014]

>>10572055
Bacon wrapped jalapeno poppers on the grill is super delicious.
I go off keto once every few months for special dinners out, but when I do I keep more mind what I shovel in my mouth and I make cheating worth it.

[Friendly Neighborhood Carnivor(...) No.10577146]

Official Power Ranking:

Zero Carb Carnivore > Keto > Everything in between > Veggie > Mentally Ill Vegan

At least garbovores can enjoy their carbage as it kills them. Pretentious plant-eaters are the worst. Bitch, fuck off with the salad. Stop pretending you enjoy consuming indigestible plant matter with close to zero nutrient bioavailability.

90 carb free days will rapidly improve your body composition, whether you're a skellington or obese. Both ends of the spectrum are equally malnourished. It's not about numbers on a scale. It's about nutritition and health. Even the weakest, flabbiest, skinnyfat estrogent can conquer his sugar addiction, cure his mental illness, rapidly improve his body composition, balance testosterone levels, and reverse gynecomastia among many other benefits.

If all you beta bitchbois memed ZERO CARB CARNIVORE half as hard as you memed onions, we would solve the masculinity crisis and literally save the world. We're under constant ideological and chemical assault through (((media))) and (((agriculture))) and (((pharmaceuticals))). Meat is the best medicine. Too many people force themselves to exercise when they're severely malnourished, leading to inevitable injury and failure. Just fucking chill out for a while, eat meat, drink water, and get fat adapted. Once you begin to heal your energy levels increase naturally and you'll be motivated to exercise without forcing anything.

[Anonymous No.10577371]

>>10573892
How many ignorant people in this thread? I cant count them all!

[Anonymous No.10577609]

Lost 50lbs on keto without regular gym visits.

Probably helps that I'm part Alaskan native.

[Anonymous No.10577613]

>>10577146
official power ranking:
people who eat whatever they want in moderation > people who follow specific diet ideologies > people who preach specific diet ideologies

[Anonymous No.10577624]

>>10576014
>having a relationship this bad with food

[Anonymous No.10577640]

>>10576014
Every time I take a break I regret it. Carbs give me the worst headaches now.

[Anonymous No.10578277]

>>10571688
>limit processed carbs and sugar in a normal diet
I mean, that's literally all that keto is -- a normal diet, with strictly limited carbohydrates. You can eat absolutely anything you want on keto, as long as you don't eat more than 20g of net digestible carbs per day.

[Anonymous No.10580077]

>>10577146
>and reverse gynecomastia
prove this and I'm sold

[Anonymous No.10580086]

>>10578277
>You can eat absolutely anything you want on keto
That's a lie, I have a big stomach and I can eat easily 3 to 4k calories a day.

[Anonymous No.10580103]

>>10571681
I think that whether keto or not, the secret to good health is eating when you need to.

I only get hungry maybe twice a day. I think that people shouldn't eat when they're not hungry.

When you're not hungry, you have lower stomach acid, stuff gets less digested, and bacteria in your gut have more to feed on. This is bad because bacteria are bad, and the "good" bacteria are only good insofar as they stave off the even worse bacteria.

This is very bad with animal protein, because it feeds very dangerous (putrefactive) forms of bacteria. You can sort of get away with it with sugars and carbs, which feed only mildly harmful bacteria (fermentative).

If you only eat when hungry, you fully digest everything, and the only bacteria that thrive are benign cellulose-eating ones.

[Anonymous No.10580115]

>>10577609
Mongoloids are fat adapted HUNTERs (and fishers)

white "men" are milk-drinking sissies who love carbs so much that they literally died off in droves if they couldn't digest lactose.

[Anonymous No.10580126]

Its stupid as fuck.
Tried it for like 2 months and realized all the best foods have some sort of bread it in. Yeah have fun eating eggs and bacon every morning, I'll be eating that with hashbrowns and oatmeal.
If you really want to lose weight just put the fork down fatty

[Anonymous No.10580132]

>>10571711
Sometimes it is
If a certain way of eating makes it easier for someone to restrict their calories, who cares?

[Anonymous No.10580194]

>>10580115

[Anonymous No.10580203]

>>10571711
Yes especially when you have sugar cravings or your blood sugar is all over the place. Keto really regulates that, and for most people it's really hard to control the blood sugar coaster.

[Anonymous No.10580208]

>>10580194

[Anonymous No.10580218]

>>10571722
Keto dieters are focused on going into ketosis, so they don't necessarily believe that having like 75-100 g carbs a day is unhealthy. They just want to burn fat as quickly as possible. Eating so low carb for me eliminates food cravings, but when I'm done losing weight I'll probably incorporate a larger variety of vegetables in my diet, but I'm still going to stay away from going back to how I was eating before.

[Anonymous No.10580256]

>>10580208

[Anonymous No.10580263]

>>10580256

[Anonymous No.10580276]

>>10580263

[Anonymous No.10580284]

>>10580115
>mfw sami/norwegian
Best of both worlds

[Anonymous No.10580286]

>>10580208
>>10580263
You're in the denial stage, don't worry, you'll get over it soon. See pic.

[Anonymous No.10580289]

>>10580276

[Anonymous No.10580297]

>>10580289
Accept reality and move on with life.

[Anonymous No.10580298]

>>10580286
says the increasingly nervous pink man, worried about the rise of China, globalization of Mongoloid culture, and now the unification of Korea.

[Anonymous No.10580305]

>>10580298
I almost feel bad about having to get you reality checked since I use your people as slave labor to get cheap electronics and goods.

[Anonymous No.10580308]

>>10580298
>rise of chinkna
There's a reason mongoloid means retard.

[Anonymous No.10580317]

>>10580308
>>10580298
>from the makers of wewuzkangz comes...
>we'llbekangz

[Anonymous No.10580318]

[Anonymous No.10580327]

>>10580318
>no arguments
>keeps posting cherrypicked pictures of golddiggers with millionaire chink entrepeneurs

Address what was posted or I'll stop replying, eurasiantiger.

[Anonymous No.10580330]

U mad white bois?

[Anonymous No.10580349]

>>10580208
>asians have the lowest test of any other race
>we are supposed to believe women from other races who are wired to select masculine traits are heads over heels with effeminate soy consuming asian "men"
Something doesn't add up, let's look at real life statistics
>>10580297

Yeah, I thought so.

[Anonymous No.10580478]

>>10573954
Good things aren't easy, you fatfuck.

[Anonymous No.10580495]

>>10580298
americans are not white.

[Anonymous No.10580504]

>>10571681
Does not look healthy when you see the people who are on it. They have that gaunt look like a 4 pack a day for thirty years smoker.
Photo is before and after this questionable diet.

[Anonymous No.10580631]

>>10580349
>asians have the lowest test
Wtf? The samurai were the toughest warriors comparable to the plains indians the world has ever seen. The plains indians were beaten by simply the ant like crawl of the weak, pale illegal immigrant and the samurai by a concerted effort between the axis powers (with nazis developing the bomb for the west). Consider yourself btfo you lice ridden barbarian.

[Anonymous No.10580710]

>>10571681
If you don't eat highly processed garbage it's pretty great. Still need to calorie restrict to lose weight. It's not magic.

[Anonymous No.10580746]

>>10580631
The toughest, bulkiest and tallest warriors were the nords. I don't know what you're smoking you fucking monkey.

This is how strong your warriors are when faced with the White Master Race.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1582_Cagayan_battles

[Anonymous No.10580891]

>>10580327
I have no idea what you're referring to, but I already did.

The european race, a subset of caucasoids, is being succeeded by a bigger brained, higher IQ, less aggressive, more organizationally capable race. As the Mongoloid racial groups gain an economic edge over the west, soft power inevitably results. Both of these process are already well underway.

Female preferences (apart from height and some objective facial traits) are simply the result of social-status conditioning, everyone knows this. Mongoloids have the edge in facial masculinity (wide face, jaw, cheekbones etc), and a slight disadvantage in height, which can be easily attributed to the huge calcium consumption disparity between East and west. When a man is portrayed as desirable, his desirability increases irrespective of his actual physical being. Obviously, the lion's share of media revenue is currently from western media, but the reversal of that trend is abundantly clear.

Racial disparities in romantic preference are simply the same dynamic, but on a group, rather than individual scale.

The whites see the writing on the wall, and the more susceptible of them (IE: the ones who require artificial status in order to thrive) are trying to do something about it, but to no avail. You see, europeans are basically just depigmented arabs. It's even in your DNA.

[Anonymous No.10580901]

>>10580349
>>asians have the lowest test of any other race

This is a falsehood. whites have the lowest T of all races, except perhaps Indians. Although I do wonder how much of the Indian low T is due to the complete vegetarianism that so many of them practice.

T levels are Black > Asian > white.

E levels are Black > white > Asian/Mexican

[Anonymous No.10580914]

>>10580891
Almost forgot to link my autosomal plot.

The average "white" is anywhere from 30-70% arab in origin. Since the posters on this board are of anglo-german descent, it would be roughly ~35%, unless they belong to the 10% of white americans who carry additional African ancestry.

Fascinating stuff.

[Anonymous No.10580915]

>>10580901
>This is a falsehood. whites have the lowest T of all races, except perhaps Indians. Although I do wonder how much of the Indian low T is due to the complete vegetarianism that so many of them practice.
This is literally on pair with the black nationalist movement.
Literal ugly brown chinks living in a fantasy world.

[Anonymous No.10580955]

>>10580915
K

[Anonymous No.10581007]

>>10580955
So according to that chart, asians have more t than literal negroes.

Sure thing boss. T is correlated with penis size, why do asians have the babiest dick of them all? Something doesn't add up.

[Anonymous No.10581032]

Very effective for burning body fat, but the key concept of it is sending your body into a state called ketosis. This condition is very common in diabetic patients, and is really hard on the kidneys. Doing it for prolonged periods can have some pretty harsh effects, especially in the elderly or those with a history of kidney problems.

[Anonymous No.10581037]

>>10571681
apparently ketogenic diets open up conversation that prevents "different races" from communcating without prejudice clouding judgement. wew. c'mon guys. we're one goddamn humanity

[Anonymous No.10581071]

>>10581037
>dumbass tries to associate his shill diet with muh racialism despite the fact that Atkins was a globalist cuck who was descended from Russian Jews

>The great-grandson of Russian-Jewish immigrants on both sides, Atkins grew up in Dayton, Ohio, to which his family moved in 1941.

[Anonymous No.10581075]

>>10581071
i despise keto faggots. just eat a balanced diet, restrict calories if you want to lose weight. get a hobby if you can't stop shoveling food.
did you read my post?

[Anonymous No.10581081]

>>10581075
>hur durr keto diets are redpilled
>it's totally redpilled to shill a russian jew's opinions as fact bro
>totally

did you read mine?

[Anonymous No.10581097]

>>10581081
turns out im illiterate and smashing the keyboard randomly jeez i hope something along these garbled characters gets through. i love dicks

[Anonymous No.10581144]

>>10580746
>butthurt gook spamming citation neededs

[Anonymous No.10581174]

>>10580746
The same nords who relied on barley and rye and dairy for sustenance?

Fascinating...
Daily reminder the Inuit IQ is a max of 91. That's about what you're getting when you go keto. Max IQ of 91.

[Anonymous No.10582930]

>>10571886
Oh, no...

[Anonymous No.10583075]

So? Keto has nothing to do with how many calories you eat, just what type. You won't lose weight eating 4000 calories unless you're already a disgusting hamplanet, but you'll still be following a ketosis-maintaining diet.

[Anonymous No.10583084]

>>10580086
So? Keto has nothing to do with how many calories you eat, just what type. You won't lose weight eating 4000 calories unless you're already a disgusting hamplanet, but you'll still be following a ketosis-inducing-and-maintaining diet.