Negroni

[Anonymous No.10502797]

Thoughts on these?

I made one for the first time last night and found it quite gross tasting.

It manages to be both too sweet and too bitter at the same time.

Tastes like cough syrup IMO.

[Anonymous No.10502808]

>>10502797
Hence the name, Negroni. Think of it as an old school "lean"

[Anonymous No.10502824]

>>10502797
it's called Coloredni now

[Anonymous No.10502842]

cocktails are generally pretty shit

[Anonymous No.10502846]

>>10502797
I haven't, but I usually try cocktails professionally made before deciding whether I like them. Otherwise you never know whether you've made it well or not.

[Anonymous No.10502868]

>>10502797
Negroni is my absolute favourite.
A proper one is more bitter than sweet and it depends heavily on the type of gin you use.

[Anonymous No.10503451]

>>10502842
I fucking hate "mixologists" and shit and that whole scene, but the occasionally get some things right. There were some decent cocktails when they were going through an herb phase and opened my eyes to using basil, lavender, rosemary, and the like in a cocktail.

[Anonymous No.10503471]

>>10502797
I like negronis, but my husband hates them for the same reason. the campari is too strong.

try this instead

https://www.hungryforever.com/recipe/martinez-dry-martini-with-a-twist/

[Anonymous No.10503475]

>>10503451
>opened my eyes to using basil, lavender, rosemary, and the like in a cocktail.
Go on

[Anonymous No.10503481]

>>10502797
i hate them. fucken negronis stole my bike

[Anonymous No.10503490]

>>10503471
>dry martini

uses sweet vermouth and luxardo

[Anonymous No.10503494]

>>10503490
i didnt name it, it doesnt matter i think its a good negroni alternative

[Anonymous No.10503520]

>>10503475
I don't have any go to's, I'm not a big drinker anymore, but a little trial and error can get you something workable. Cucumber vodka, lime juice, lavender, soda water. There were a lot of drinks I remember seeing using macerated fruit, like strawberry, and basil, but I can't remember what else.

[Anonymous No.10503537]

>>10502797
Try a Belvidier instead.

It's not going to be as sweet, because the bourbon (or rye if you're a real man) will cancel it out.

Also a drop of bitters doesn't hurt.

[Anonymous No.10503585]

>>10503537
I'll probably give those a try, I've got to use the campari some how.

[Anonymous No.10503642]

>>10503585
If those sound appealing, try an old fashioned. I’ve been making a lazy version pretty often with ginger ale, rye, and bitters. I have also discovered San Pelegrino Grapefruit with Langley’s gin and a tiny bit of cardamom liquor is amazing.

[Anonymous No.10503677]

I love negroni and I love chinotto but they both have to be done right

[Anonymous No.10503720]

>>10502797
I decided to try one of these earlier this year and it was the worst drink I've ever had. I'm not exaggerating either. I usually finish my drink even if I don't like it, but this was just undrinkable.

How did something this bad become so popular/well known?

[Anonymous No.10503748]

>>10503720
Under 30 detected

[Anonymous No.10503814]

>>10503475
>Make a vodka tonic
>Add herbs you like, mint is always an easy go-to but even shit like parsley can be good
>If you're feeling frisky add a lemon or lime wedge depending on the flavor profile of the herbs (lemon is better with mint, etc)
Cocktails are pretty easy once you get used to mixing common flavors. If you prefer bitter/dry to sweet, use gin instead of vodka. Cocktails with dark liquors are hit-or-miss desu, you're honestly better off drinking it straight or in a classic mixed drink.

[Anonymous No.10503856]

>>10503814
>>10503475
Oh, and an advanced tip: if you don't like how sweet/sticky tonic water can be, try slicing up some lemons or limes, jamming them in a bottle with water, and freezing/unfreezing once or twice. This will bust up the cell membranes in the fruit and let all those delicious flavor nuances incorporate more fully into the water. Then, instead of making a vodka/gin and tonic with 1 part booze to 3 parts tonic with a citrus wedge, do two parts booze, one part citrus water, and one part tonic. This is my secret recipe and it comes out perfect every time. It also looks sick as fuck, since the water turns a healthy yellow or green from the lemons or limes.

[Anonymous No.10503872]

>>10503856
>if you don't like how sweet/sticky tonic water can be
What?
Do Americans put sugar in their tonic water?
It's just carbonated water and quinine

[Anonymous No.10503881]

>>10503872
Yeah, there's like 20 grams of sugar in a "serving" of tonic water here. Shit sucks, it's like drinking a cola without any flavor

[Anonymous No.10503894]

>>10503872
Typically, no. I have no idea what the other poster is talking about. A lot of cocktails use sugar to offset bitters and whatnot, but tonic water is the same here as there.

[Anonymous No.10503898]

>>10503881
Burn the South.
Burn it all down

[Anonymous No.10503900]

>>10503881
What the fuck tonic water are you using?

[Anonymous No.10503906]

>>10503894
>>10503898
>>10503900
Is there any hope left?

[Anonymous No.10503913]

>>10503720
i just imagine all your drink is PBR, and all you eat is chicken tendies. Its a simple bitter orange, and herb drink

[Anonymous No.10503916]

>>10503906
This is why I don't buy the cheapest shit on the shelf?

[Anonymous No.10503918]

>>10503872
>>10503900
The only tonic I know of without sugar here in eastern Canada is a diet version, sweetened with aspartame, there's nothing close to the real version available.

[Anonymous No.10503920]

>>10503642
thats a complex old fasioned, all they are is sugar water bitters rye.

[Anonymous No.10503921]

>>10503916
Oh shit, I didn't know I was posting on the same board as Louis XV

[Anonymous No.10503926]

>>10503916
at most places the best you can in the US tonic water wise is get the "diet" tonic water.

[Anonymous No.10503936]

>>10503921
X-------DD

[Anonymous No.10503937]

>>10503906
That’s shitty. I just looked up Canada Dry (the other most popular brand in the US) How long have they been using that recipe?

[Anonymous No.10503939]

>>10503451
>>10503475
I've been thinking of making a simple syrup then infusing fresh basil into it, macerating, let steep, then strain after an hour or so...

[Anonymous No.10503943]

>>10502797
yes, please.

so odd that its good.

[Anonymous No.10503944]

>>10503920
I believe the old fashioned used tonic from an early point, didn’t it? I find it a lazy version because most of the recipes I am familiar with require muddling.

[Anonymous No.10503945]

>>10503926
Even in somewhere like a Food Lion in the country, I've found fancy tonic water in their little cocktail section.

[Anonymous No.10503968]

>>10503944
I was thinking club soda, and no, I know that’s not normal. I am not sure what I was thinking about tonic. Possibly one of the weird recipes I ran over.

[Anonymous No.10503980]

>>10502797
Niggeroni should be really cold
and yea i think they are somewhat of an aquiired taste
typically though too you’re going to have one maybe two before dinner to stimulate your appetite
for me, i like making something similar, but with Aperol instead of Campari

[Anonymous No.10503995]

>>10503471
>husband
show tits

[Anonymous No.10503998]

>>10503944
It did become popular to muddle fruit and add soda water, but the original cocktail and the old fashioned was the first cocktail, is the the four ingredients I named. Also it was a breakfast drink a way to soften the "medicinal" bitters flavor

[Anonymous No.10504006]

>>10503995
thanks for ruining this thread.

[Anonymous No.10504011]

>>10503998
Yeah, I just feel bushes reading up on it again, as I obviously mixed up some things. There’s so much crappy cocktail stuff to sift through. It might be worse than normal food sites.

[Anonymous No.10504024]

>>10504011
while there is a lot of good food stuff on the internet most even mediocre cocktail stuff is still in books. Hipsters and all, but some good sites drinkwire, and cocktail virgin. I just scroll through till i find something i think looks interesting

[Anonymous No.10504026]

>>10502797

[Anonymous No.10504053]

>>10504024
Most of the food stuff on the internet is terrible IMO, particularly those places aimed at teaching beginners, but even places that are trying to act as an authority on things dissseminate horrible information. Maybe it’s just because I have been in kitchens for so long and cocktails are new to me.

[Anonymous No.10504068]

>>10504006
c’mon, don’t be a prude
let’s see ‘em

[Anonymous No.10504082]

>>10504053
I think part of it is that cooking is far more common than making actual cocktails. The cool thing is if you actually do get into making cocktails, it eventually becomes much cheaper than drinking beer or wine at home. The issue is the initial investment in getting enough bottles to make a wide range of drinks.

[Anonymous No.10504204]

>>10504024
I'd say recipes beyond the general elements are pretty useless for cocktails. Trial and error is still the best way to go until you stumble across something really special, since minute variations in ratios and technique make such a big difference.

[Anonymous No.10504205]

>>10503980
>Niggeroni should be really cold
I'm trying another with more ice. hopefully that will improve it.

[Anonymous No.10504206]

>>10504082
Yes, I am feeling that initial investment. Most of my experience with alcohol has been wine, and whiskey, as that's what I personally drink most. I've been trying to branch out slowly, but even in the whiskey area there's more going on than I tend to stay on top of. Wine is extremely established, but even there... our local domestic production is developing like crazy and there's always vintages, conditions, and old world "controversies" in opinion that shift. I've bookmarked drinkwire. And yeah, I think I'll stick to the books until what I'm getting into is calcified.

[Anonymous No.10504232]

>>10504205
Confirmed better cold, but I'm still not a fan, I'll probably try some boulevardiers with bourbon or rye instead.

[Anonymous No.10504282]

>>10504205
>>10504232
you may just never like them
however:
i also suggest mixing the ingredients in a beaker, with a couple large pieces of ice
stir for like 2 minutes, breakng as little ice as possible and then straining into a rocks glass with one large cube
they’re also pretty good served long:
make as usual, pour into pint gkass w/ice
top off with soda water

[Anonymous No.10504464]

>>10504282
>they’re also pretty good served long:
>make as usual, pour into pint gkass w/ice
>top off with soda water
This sounds really good, I'll definately try it when I pick up some soda water later in the week, thanks!

[Anonymous No.10504847]

>>10504464
you’re welcome anon
i like a Manhattan this way sometimes too
ginger ale also may/may not work for you
it’s fun to try different options

[Anonymous No.10505300]

>>10504282
seems kind of shitty, but it's silly how much watering a drink down can improve it if it's too syrupy

I've been making (cheap) Godfathers with gin instead of scotch (2:1 gin:amaretto) and they're too sweet from the syrupy, over-dyed $8/fifth amaretto and a bit too harsh from the $10/fifth gin (seagram's extra dry), but they're actually excellent with 2 shots of water to the shot of gin and half=shot of amaretto. Tried it at first with club soda but that was too sweet also. Might just be my taste since I very rarely eat sweets and my early-20s peers found them dilute.

In a similar vein, when I still had a bottle of Jagermeister, I'd go half-and-half with good vodka (platinum 7x, it's almost completely neutral) because Jager's much too sweet on its own, as in so syrupy it's like drinking cream, as I found when taking a pull from a friend's bottle once

[Anonymous No.10506548]

>>10502824
Underrated post

[Anonymous No.10506644]

>>10506548
honestly not underrated since "ironic political correctness" jokes are extremely played out and this one wasn't much of a leap

now, something like changing conspicuous to conmexican-americanuous is fairly powerful

[Anonymous No.10506748]

>>10503872
>>10503894
>>10503916
>>10503906
>>10503937
I think tonic water has always had this amount of sugar. It is part of the quinine flavoring.
It's retarded how few people know this. People order a vodka tonic thinking it's healthier than a vodka sprite but it's actually worse because of the health effects of quinine.

I still unironically love a gin and tonic with lime but more and more places are using extra cheap tonic that tastes like ass. So now I usually order a gin gimlet.

[Anonymous No.10506772]

>>10503537
>if you're a real man like me

[Anonymous No.10506774]

I abandoned G&T's because, even at classier establishments, the tonics are usually sugary chemical dogshit

if its for personal outings, my list is:
1. Gin, water, and lime on ice
2. Negroni
3. Gin and bitters on rocks

for meeting clients, business
1. Martini dry
2. negroni
3. topshelf gin on rocks

[Anonymous No.10507076]

>>10502797
Skyy vodka on the rocks.

[Anonymous No.10507516]

>>10506748
What tonic water is supposed to be passable? Schweppes?

The most recent G&T's I made tasted terrible and I don't know if it was because I swapped from Safeway's (sugared) storebrand to Western Family (diet) or because I also swapped from New Amsterdam gin to Seagram's gin or because my taste has changed since then

[Anonymous No.10507668]

>>10507516
Fever Tree

inb4 whatever dumb response you feel compelled to make

[Anonymous No.10507680]

>>10502846
Rational fucking post
>t. Cocktail Bartender

[Anonymous No.10507706]

>>10503451
If you are dealing with someone who calls themself a mixologist you're never going to enjoy the conversation. A bartender who knows their shit can turn you on to some cool stuff like smashes (herbs shaken with a cocktail), shrubs (vinegar based drinks), shims (low ABV sippers) etc. You don't have to be pretentious to know how to make a good drink and a good bartender would never turn their nose up at someone who orders a shot and a beer.

[Anonymous No.10507755]

>>10503537
>means to post Boulevardier
>not as sweet because bourbon
>rye makes you more manly because it's the original recipe of the cocktail?
>implying campari isn't a potable bitter so adding a dash of unspecified non-potable bitters makes sense
You must be a "mixologist."

[Anonymous No.10507789]

>>10502797
Campari is fucking disgusting

[Anonymous No.10507812]

>>10502797
What Gin and Sweet Vermouth did you use? I prefer Punt e Mez or Camparo Antica (might have fucked the spelling on that) for my vermouth thanks to a few bars I worked at.

Negroni spec cocktails are amazing, if you like Rye try an Old Pal sometime. Equal parts Rye, Campari, Dry Vermouth stirred and on the rocks with a lemon twist.

[Anonymous No.10507815]

>>10502824
kek

[Anonymous No.10507819]

>>10507706
>a good bartender would never turn their nose up at someone who orders a shot and a beer.
indeed
a good bartender may very well have a shot with you

>>10507789
k bro, we get it

[Anonymous No.10507902]

>>10507819
What sort of liquor is supposed to be good as a shot? Something perhaps with a bad starting taste that goes into a good aftertaste? Vodka or something cheap to get maximum drunk per dollar?

[Anonymous No.10508200]

>>10507706
>>10507819
>>10507902

Sip > shot, 95% of the time

[Anonymous No.10508230]

>>10507902
I like tequila as a shot. Its a good buzz burn.

But only like patron quality, higher quality you sip

[Anonymous No.10508251]

>>10508200
>Sip > shot, 95% of the time
agreed
however
sometimes it’s just fun to pound a few w/your bros or some girls or whoever

[Anonymous No.10508258]

>>10507902
>something cheap to get maximum drunk per dollar?
since you put it that way: Wild Turkey 101 would be my choicr

[Anonymous No.10508264]

>>10508251
Precisely, that is the 5%

[Anonymous No.10509037]

>>10508258
wild turkey, and especially overproof anything, isn't even cheap

the bourbon of choice for getting fukked on likker is evan williams green label, 80 proof at $20 for a handle

[Anonymous No.10509441]

>>10507902
Just booze, doesn't matter, but not fucking vodka. I like shots of amari, doesn't matter what kind really, but a shot of whiskey is never scoffed at.

[Anonymous No.10509867]

>>10507902
>something cheap to get maximum drunk per dollar
don't do shots outside your house if this is what you're looking for

[Anonymous No.10509988]

stop drinking

[Anonymous No.10510136]

>>10509988
no

[Anonymous No.10510215]

>>10502842
this

sometimes i ask a random waiter which cocktail he recommends

i only respect the ones who tell me that he can't recommend any because cocktails suck

[Anonymous No.10510250]

>>10510215
Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they're not good. There's a threshold you have to break through within yourself to admit to yourself you like nerdy booze and you don't care what anyone else thinks. It's not to show off, it's to try new things and because of that it often seems to come off as snobby.

[Anonymous No.10510282]

>>10502797
I love negroni, but it's such a crapshoot for bars/restaurants to be able to make them. I finally picked up everything I need to make them a few weeks ago and it's been pretty much all I've been drinking since then. I'm using a local gin that's pretty nice, and Carpano Antica for my vermouth, with a slice of minneola peel. I'm excited to try different vermouths, this one's nice but not blowing me away.

[Anonymous No.10510290]

>>10510215
Plebe detected, you sound like my friends from uni who would criticize mixed drinks with the phrase "I can still taste the alcohol"

[Anonymous No.10510310]

Why is the modern cocktail scene so frivolous? People who have never drunk a Negroni or a dry Martini ordering cocktails with +6 ingredients and massively painful to do garishes.

Why not have a classy bar that serves the IBA classics for an affordable price. Surely those 12 dollar rasperry-lemonade-ginger Daiguiris with a jovial name can't be the only thing?

[Anonymous No.10510322]

>>10503872
Normal tonic water is about as sugary as any soda.

[Anonymous No.10510334]

>>10510310

[Anonymous No.10510361]

>>10510250
>>10510290
m8 if I'm trying to get drunk just give me a normal drink like beer or whiskey

if i want to drink something fruity ill just ask for apple juice and joke about it because it looks like beer or whiskey

[Anonymous No.10510363]

>>10510310
Drop the "classy" and that would be perfect.

[Anonymous No.10510398]

>>10510310
Fuck the thing cocktail bars do where every drink has to come in its very own snowflake glass to "channel the aroma" or whatever.
Ideal cocktail bar:
>Drinks are named based strictly on what they contain, unless its a standard cocktail like the Manhattan or Martini that everyone knows
>Garnishes are only included if they actually impact the drink in a significant way
> Bartenders aren't allowed to dress like they're cosplaying Humphrey Bogart
>All drinks are served in either a pint glass or a rocks glass
>Prices are directly proportional to the quality/quantity of ingredients
>ABSOLUTELY NO """SMOKE INFUSIONS"""
>Bonus: Nothing over $10

[Anonymous No.10510672]

>>10510361
why would you think all cocktails are fruity? there are plenty of cocktails that are literally just liquor.

[Anonymous No.10510717]

>>10510398
really should include a cocktail("martini") glass in that shortlist of glassware, it's incredibly standard and I don't want to drink a manhattan from a rocks glass as if touching a stem would turn me gay

[Anonymous No.10510729]

>>10510672
>gin is just berry vodka right? haha
>time to smash this dry martini and show all those urbanite metrosexuals the superiority of drinking Jack Daniels sugarwater

[Anonymous No.10510738]

>>10510398
You'd need a collins glass too.

[Anonymous No.10510740]

>>10510361
WHISKEY!!

Fuck yeah! Whiskey is pure sex!

[Anonymous No.10510907]

>>10509037
dude you must be really poor or a cheapass jew
WT is under $20 for 750ml even here in California

[Anonymous No.10510914]

>>10510907
Not even him but kys everyone knows when people say cheap alcohol they mean shitty 10$ 1L bottles

[Anonymous No.10510924]

>>10510907
"even in california"
commiefornia might be a police state but at least they have permissive liquor laws

montana, for example, is a "control state" where distributors have to sell to the state before the liquor's sold through state-controlled stores so every price is fucking inflated

[Anonymous No.10510927]

>>10510924
Yeah but you have no sales tax so fuck off

[Anonymous No.10510932]

>>10510907
>>10510927
Stay in california stop sending faggots to montana

[Anonymous No.10510935]

>>10510932
I'm Arizonan. How dare you.

[Anonymous No.10510941]

>>10510927
haha

sales tax isn't shit in terms of scale

I saw a post from a few years back from one of Bozeman's countless hordes of cali transplants saying he could get a handle of JD black for $33 in his home state, but $60 at a [slightly more expensive than the absolute floor for montana] liquor store, and with kwik maffs that seems to be more than 7.25% more expensive

[Anonymous No.10510942]

>>10510941
On booze, buy a car you dwi'd dipshit.

[Anonymous No.10510951]

>>10510941
Bozeman does have a huge cali problem. The demographics have changed and everyone is kindof up tight now

[Anonymous No.10510968]

>>10510942
but sir, how can I be DWI'd if I don't even have a car?

[Anonymous No.10510977]

>>10510951
They're moving here to Phoenix too, it sucks. Nobody likes Californians. They're going to fuck up our wild west gun laws for sure. You never think you'll have to rely on the mormons until these fucking cucks roll in because they already ruined their state.

[Anonymous No.10510986]

>>10510968
You used your mommys then crashed into an elk and then a cop in a ford f150 rolled up in his stupid teddy rosevelt hat and BAC'd you at .347 and then you lost your license and have no reason to buy one anymore. They put you in a stockade in the village center for a day then released you to go work on thr Bar Z ranch again.

[Anonymous No.10510990]

>>10510977
As a transplant from CT, I'm proud to say that that the feds can get bent and basically we should dismantle the ATF

[Anonymous No.10510991]

>>10510986
>implying I have parents

[Anonymous No.10510998]

>>10510977
Oh lol thats funny. Im actually moving to Gilbert/Chandler for work
When I visited everyone seemed nice though. Maybe its the constant sunshine

[Anonymous No.10511005]

>>10510998
That's where I live. I hate you fuckers so much. Traffic used to be so much better here and now you mongoloids showed up in your hyundai santa fes and chevy equinoxes and ruined this place.

[Anonymous No.10511059]

>>10511005
O i dont care traffics easy. 0 traffic in MT so thought itd be different but its fine. Also the traffic will clear in a month or so

[Anonymous No.10511120]

I got a Compari straight the other day and it was disgusting. That stuff should only be drank with ice and club soda.

[Anonymous No.10511444]

>>10511120
Maybe don't order bitter sweet things if you don't like them. Just a thought.

[Anonymous No.10511558]

>>10511120
Well yeah, duh.

It was never intended to be drunk straight.

[Anonymous No.10511694]

>>10511059
We're a tourist economy, so it's sort of a culture thing. It's a mix, though. Some is fake and put on by people who just want your money and are going through the paces, other people see it as a general lifestyle and hospitality thing. Head to other parts of the state and the cultural divides will become more apparent. Stay away from Scottsdale nightclubs.

[Anonymous No.10512997]

>>10511120
>That stuff should only be drank with ice and club soda.
i like it like that

[Anonymous No.10513128]

Dayquilroni (Dayquil Negroni)

Ingredients:
1.5 oz Gin
1.5 oz Sweet vermouth
.75 oz Campari
.75 oz DayQuil

[Anonymous No.10513133]

>>10502797
If it's not gin an tonic i'm not interested

[Anonymous No.10513171]

>>10502797
I like them, though I'm the kinda cancer that drinks Up to Dates.

[Anonymous No.10513269]

>>10513128
how about subbing in nyquil to up the proof

[Anonymous No.10513279]

>>10507668
>Meme tree

cuccboi

[Anonymous No.10513734]

>>10510672
because i enjoy the taste of fruit

[Anonymous No.10514328]

>>10513133
It's a pretty lateral step, honestly. I was a straight G&T man until I started exploring other gin drinks. Holland Gin cocktail and Negronis are some of my favorites now - and they're both pretty much pure liquor

[Anonymous No.10515332]

>>10513269
>>10513128
Why? That's fucking gross.

[Anonymous No.10515340]

>>10514328
>Holland gin
Genever?

[Anonymous No.10515403]

>>10513279
Name literally anything better. I buy fevertree by the case from amazon because everything also is full of hfcs and tastes like ass.

>>10515340
The recipe I use doesn't specify and the result is fucking excellent. 2 gin, 1 simple, 1 maraschino liqueur, dash bitters. All over ice with a twist of lemon at the end

[Anonymous No.10515961]

I picked up some bourbon today and tried the Boulevardier, it's a much better mixture IMO.

[Anonymous No.10516012]

>>10513279
there’s always a couple of minors in these threads

[Anonymous No.10516047]

>>10507668
>hurr durr this isolated sugar is better than that other isolated sugar

[Anonymous No.10516409]

this thread had its moments
cheers lads

[Anonymous No.10516692]

>>10516047
>>10513279
samefag

but also, it's about the taste jr
you'd agree the the brand of tendies you like are better than the ones you don't like, right?

[Anonymous No.10517002]

>>10507516
your taste in gin is shit.

[Anonymous No.10517010]

>>10502824
Damnit anon, I came here to shitpost, not send my sides to orbit.

[Anonymous No.10517269]

>>10516409
Fever Tree is tasty, but the stuff has nearly as much sugar as Coke. Recently I've been using East Imperial Old World Tonic (not Burma tonic, that has more sugar) and Quina Fina tonic instead. Both have less sugar. They're NZ brands, but I think East Imperial is available elsewhere too.

[Anonymous No.10517309]

>>10517269
those both sound good, but i haven't noticed either of them locally (sf bay area CA), but perhaps i'll broaden my search
on the other hand i usually go through less than a 4-pack of Fever Tree in a week.
this thread got me kinda fired-up