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Hopefully the mods allow this because I honestly think this is the only place I can ask this since it's food related, is it true that soy contains estrogen that turns you into a woman and makes you prefer Nintendo products?

>> No.10368240

>>10368235
The shitposting is hilarious. But to be honest if there's even a .05% chance that it's true then I'm not drinking it over real milk.

>> No.10368242

>>10368235
No, it's a retarded meme and actual retards fall for it, causing it to spread more.

>> No.10368245

>>10368240
Real milk has mammalian estrogen compounds, which are more likely to cause those effects than the phytoestrogens in soy.

>> No.10368258

>>10368245
Fine then let's just not drink anything dickhead

>> No.10368267

>>10368258
I'm just saying. The human race has been fine consuming these products for centuries, if you're dumb enough to believe that they're all of a sudden creating "soyboys" then you're the ultimate retard.

>> No.10368274

Absolutely. It has been proven by many scientists to be true. I have a friend who does soyboy pictures on facebook and when I told him about this he showed me his fridge and I saw 2 cartons of soymilk and a lot of tofu.

>> No.10368281

Soyboys are not created by soy, demand for soy is created by soyboys.

>> No.10368295

>>10368235
Yes, only the Big Soy shills would have you believe otherwise

>> No.10368297

>>10368295
More like big goy shills

>> No.10368305

>>10368235
None. Now fuck off

>> No.10368331

>>10368235
the soyboyism thing is very real in the sense that western males are becoming feminized,however soy itself on't turn you into a girl.
milk and poultry are actually very fucing estrogenic.

>> No.10368333

>>10368235
Its a crock of shit but its also funny. Similar to the onion meme except the o onion meme was real.

>> No.10368345

>>10368267
You’re on 4chan. It’s like 99% retarded meme loving faggots
>>10368274
You’re a retarded meme loving faggot

>> No.10368353

>>10368235
My sister was feeding my nephew that shit when he was young and he was a whiny little bitch. When she stopped he started acting like a normal boy.

>> No.10368356

>>10368353
Bullshit you meme loving faggot

>> No.10368361

most soy is GMO and it alters your DNA. It also has shown to contain significant amounts of extra estrogen, though many brands of milk contains even more estrogen that they pump into milk cows to get extra milk. They don't want you knowing any of this though, just go back to sleep

>> No.10368369

It's actually true. Those who consume large amounts of soy tend to become more obnoxious and whimpy. A prime example are the Japanese, who have a large portion of their entire diet filled with soy.

>> No.10368380

>>10368361
Bullshit you retarded faggot
>>10368369
Same goes for you brainlet

>> No.10368381

>>10368235
I had a vegetarian girlfriend who made me buy this shit all the time. It sucked but I loved her so I kept consuming this and soy based alternatives to normal foods. After she left me (cheated on me) I returned to a normal diet and it was like a night and day change. I was aggressive again and opinionated and didn't take shit from anyone. I think soy is like those those female spiders who poison men before they fuck them in the sense that woman use it to control you better and I will never consume soy ever again in my life after that.

>> No.10368387

>>10368381
I’ll take things that never happened for $200 Alex
>retarded faggot

>> No.10368390

>>10368267
Yes. Hey, check out the populations that have been eating it most over those centuries. Have a look at their masculine traits compared to the populations that have been consuming little to no soy. Interesting, isn't it?

>> No.10368395

>>10368390
You are the dumbest faggot here

>> No.10368397

>>10368361
>most soy is GMO
and most of it it's fed to livestock...
>and it alters your dna
bpas and phthalates do this
>It also has shown to contain significant amounts of extra estrogen
phytoestrogens are completely different to mammalian estrogens

>> No.10368401

>>10368381
Soy basically contains things that mimic estrogen, and makes you think and act more like a woman. You're lucky you got away from it all before you became some faggoty assed tranny video game blogger.

>> No.10368406

>>10368401
Shut up you meme loving faggot

>> No.10368407

>>10368245
Source?

>> No.10368408

>>10368356
post your mantits

>> No.10368409

My mom walked all over my father when i was a kid and cheated and divorced him. He had a lengthy custody battle with her but won the custody rights to me and my brothers. He saw a soyboy meme picture when he was browsing /pol/ and he asked me to explain that and when I told him he said when he was with my mom all she did was make soy and he fully believes it makes men weaker.

>> No.10368414

>>10368408
Fuck off brainlet
>>10368408
Larping faggot

>> No.10368417

>>10368235
>>10368245
Soy is different from milk and chicken which are high in estrogen its effects are different
Pregnant mothers are told to avoid soy products as it genuinely will be harmful to the developing child

>> No.10368419

I enjoy almond milk

>> No.10368420

>>10368406
Why are you in a thread for pointing out that soy eaters and drinkers are subhuman trash if you are one yourself and refuses to admit it?

>> No.10368424

>>10368414
post em babygirl

lets see your milkers

>> No.10368429

>>10368407
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19496976
>The present data on men and children indicate that estrogens in milk were absorbed, and gonadotropin secretion was suppressed, followed by a decrease in testosterone secretion. Sexual maturation of prepubertal children could be affected by the ordinary intake of cow milk.

>> No.10368436

>>10368420
because he is a faggot and hates himself so much the worst insult he can come up with is faggot. I have see it happen all too often.

>> No.10368443

According to the protocols of the elder zion, soy is one of the many different ways Ashkenazi Jews go about pacifying non Jews.

>> No.10368445

>>10368436
The faggot should just learn to love himself already and move on instead of being a prissy prima donna about things.

>> No.10368451

>>10368420
Meme loving faggot
>>10368424
Fag wants to see pics of dudes
>>10368436
Projecting now? Drink bleach

>> No.10368459

>>10368443
>>/pol/
>>10368445
Said the meme loving faggot

>> No.10368460

Real milk has a bunch of soy too but you goofballs get upset whenever someone brings that up.

>> No.10368462

>>10368451
and? post milkies

>> No.10368463

>>10368451
How are you so fast at typing?

>> No.10368469

>>10368462
Fag
>>10368462
You’re on an anon board and you think you know who you are replying to

>> No.10368475

Just ask yourself why has soy based products become available in almost all restaurants out of nowhere? There has to be a reason and I think pacification is it. I would bet good money aioli also turns you into a soyboy since that is everywhere now.

>> No.10368476

>>10368469
you are making yourself known in every thread

>> No.10368480

>>10368469
post milkies you can be my plump soft little bottom

>> No.10368481

>>10368235
I personally can't wait for the soy thing to blow over, I'm really shocked it's managed to stay around longer than "cuck" did. It doesn't bother me, but it is disheartening how it's seeped into every corner of the site now.

>> No.10368484

>>10368235
Yes but that's not enough to make you a woman, not even a trap. You'll need to follow a specific diet in addition of drinking soy, you also have to do specific fitness exercices and jogging everyday and only after a few months you might have some changes.
So yes, it's a meme but it's not completely false in a way.

>> No.10368488

>>10368331
>western males are becoming feminized
True, but to blame food products is a red herring. The exponential growth of technology has created high paying jobs that don't require the archaic 19th century notions of masculinity and with most women employed alongside those higher earning males the feminized male is capable of better adapting to the feminine atmosphere instead of being ostracized as a neanderthal, hyper testosterone ditch digger. Furthermore, the female wants a high wage earner and since those generally work in said feminized offices, they end up getting chosen for breeding by the female.

Ironically, the selfsame incels who can't adapt to the feminine workspace (either through lack of intelligence or psych issues) engendered by exponential tech growth, are the first to champion technology.

tl;dr It's not food, tard gargler, it's the unintended consequences of technological growth.

>> No.10368490

>>10368305
/thread

>> No.10368498
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10368498

>>10368484
will it help me be like this?

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>>10368235
not really. Soy isoflavones mimic estrogen and fill the estrogen receptors which prevents ACTUAL estrogen from activating it. Thus the receptors get activated by a weak estrogen, and real estrogen gets detoxified.

I still don't eat soy for other reasons, but it is a antiestrogen/progestagen.

>> No.10368506

>>10368504
fag

>> No.10368508

>>10368235
I was raised as a vegetarian by my tragically misinformed mother--the type who knew nothing about nutrition or cooking, but for some reason decided to raise her kids as vegetarians (she also refused to allow me to be vaccinated, for similar reasons)--so I ate a LOT of processed soy products throughout my life, until I left home at 17. Granted, back then those products, like meat substitutes, tofu, and tempeh, were also produced locally and purchased from the farmer's market, rather than bought in stores, they still contained a lot of soy and a lot of congealants, etc. As a result of consuming a lot of processed soy, I still at 25 cannot grow a beard, have a very slight build, and have been called "effeminate" by about everyone I know. Conversely, my older brother, who was raised apart from my mother and I, is quite muscular, hairy as can be, and is exactly what you would describe as "masculine," in both attitude and behavior.

This is, of course, purely anecdotal, and in no way scientific. But considering that we have the same parents and both grew up heavily involved in athletics, it seems like our respective diets must have played a significant role in our physical/chemical development. I don't think it is as significant as this site would have people believe, but certainly enough to have a long-term impact on a person's gender/sexual development, just like how women who grow up eating lots of red meat tend to reach sexual maturity earlier than those who don't.

Can't speak for anyone else, but at least personally, I am totally ok with the way I turned out. I'm straight, have a normal sex drive, and tend to be interested in things that my brother isn't, and vice-versa. He may be more successful with the ladies, and have more male friends than me, but he also doesn't like to read, make music, or other traditionally feminine things that I enjoy, like working with leather and sewing. It takes all sorts, ultimately, to make a happy and balanced society

>> No.10368519

>>10368235
I was raised by hippy parents who fed us nothing but soy. Everything I ate was soy. Everything I drank was soy. I am now a homosexual but I stopped eating soy and support Trump but the damage is done and I am still a homosexual so do the math.

>> No.10368524

>>10368245
It also has progesterone dipshit.

>> No.10368527

>>10368488
wrong, there's a lot of exogenous estrogen in things like plastic, and again, diary and meat are full of hormones.

>> No.10368529
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10368529

>>10368429
So this is why white people are so feminized.

They're so obsessed with proving they can digest milk (half of them can't) that they intake 20x the normal amount of estrogen.

milk drinking sissies, the lot of them.

>> No.10368536

>>10368529
>Sexual maturation of prepubertal children could be affected by the ordinary intake of cow milk.
no wonder wh*tebois make the best traps lmao

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>>10368529
yuppers

>> No.10368543

>>10368508
Dude you're gay and your mother broke you.

>> No.10368544

>>10368529
>Trying this hard
Sad desu

>> No.10368548

No. It's just easier to blame small cummies on soy air particles because the average modern "man" doesn't want to give up his video game time on getting some sun or exercise.

>> No.10368558

>>10368548
lack of exercise doesn't help

>> No.10368566

>>10368543
Not gay, not even bi--just faggy in lots of other ways. It's never been a problem for me in any way other than still getting carded at the bars. Don't even have a high-pitched voice, just a babyface

>> No.10368571

>>10368508
lmao you fucking gay son.

>> No.10368574

>>10368566
Can you pick up your gf and carry her up the stairs? Like how are you ok with being forever a boy?

>> No.10368596

>>10368574
Ha yeah I can. I'm not particularly strong, but she weight less than 120 lbs and, although I'm skinny as shit, I'm also 6'2" and have been a distance runner for the last decade, so it's not like I'm made of jelly. Anyway, I was just hoping to give some evidence to help OP understand the meme, not to defend my mother or myself. I know that I'll never be particularly masculine or get along with everyone

>> No.10368604

>>10368596
I want to pound your gf while you watch.

>> No.10368614

>>10368267
You're discussing soyboys on 4chan. You're a massive retard.

>> No.10368620

OP watch

https://youtu.be/az352YaZNM0

>> No.10368622

>>10368604
There is something involving insecurity to these posts that I can't exactly place, but if the thing that makes you feel like a true alpha chad is to want to bang other guys' girls, you should go for it

>> No.10368623

>>10368420
Shut up you meme loving faggot

>> No.10368703

>>10368596
Why don't you start lifting weights then too man? I'm 6'2 and 200 but people still call me skinny

>> No.10368744

>>10368703
About half of my annual income is generated through sponsorships and prizes from competitive distance events, so maintaining a slim physique is now actually beneficial for me. My training season is about half of my year, so I do get into the gym on my rest days, but mostly just for arms/shoulders/back. Gains are certainly not impossible, but at this point it is more beneficial for me to do resistance training and small weight x high-rep workouts compared to bulking

>> No.10368753

>>10368744
As I said, I'm pretty content with it. But the way I got into distance running is through being unqualified to play football/basketball in high school

>> No.10368774

>>10368753
did you lose the ball cupping/cough test

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10368776

>>10368753
goggins and cam hanes both do it

>> No.10368800

>>10368774
kek no, just got pummeled in tryouts for both, to the point that it was apparent I would never be successful at them. If I didn't go to a heavily black school, I might have stood a chance at basketball just for my height, but some of those guys were fucking tall and had been playing since they were really young

>>10368776
never heard of them, I'll check them out. But try to remember, upper-tier runners in the events I compete in--half-marathons, marathons, and ultras--tend to be super-small Ethiopian/Kenyan guys. Even here in CO, where I live, they always travel out and destroy us soyboy white guys

>> No.10368813

>>10368800
football sucked and I gained nothing from it but more back pain, you are a smart man

>> No.10368842

If anyone can provide a scientific study showing the estrogen-like effects of soy I'm inclined to believe it, but so far I've always just seen idiots spouting memes.

>> No.10368851

>>10368842
This is because GMO won't do a study on it unless if would help them sell more GMO products. Organic soybeans are just fine, chinese have been eating them for centuries.

>> No.10368853

>>10368842
Pretty sure they have one study that was done on rats, but that's about it. All other studies have concluded otherwise. The people who actually believe it are the same types who will believe that the earth is flat because a couple infographs on an anime forum said so.

>> No.10368867

>>10368842
Here is an article reporting on the effects of estrogen in a negative way (regarding immune response), and one contradicting them. I no longer have free access to scientific databases, so these are just reports, but if you are at school you should be able to look more in-depth to find the source studies behind these and other reports, because you should have access to some sort of clinical/scientific database

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/03/180312150509.htm

https://barbend.com/soy-testosterone-study/

>> No.10368892

>>10368853
So in other words, like 80% of the retarded brainlets here.
Why they feel the need to venture out from /b/ and /pol/ is what I don’t get.

>> No.10368914

>>10368508
>traditionally feminine

All those things you listed were invented and perfected by men lol (with the exception of seeing).

>> No.10368926

>>10368914
*sewing

>> No.10368939

>>10368235
THIS ISNT SOME NEW MEME
PEOPLE NEW SOY ENCOURAGES ESTROGEN LEVELS IN BOYS SINCE 2006

>> No.10368942

>>10368235
>Is there any truth to the "soyboy" meme?
Absolutely. It's totally true. Too true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BrPLGGir5A

>> No.10368948

>>10368926
You are right, but these days they are considered feminine, when most men here spend their time hunting/fishing/camping/shooting. As faggy as this will sound, their are traditionally "gendered" activities, and my hobbies fall into the feminine category

>> No.10368952

If Huffingtonpost says anything it means the opposite is true

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/15/soy-myths_n_5571272.html

>> No.10368965

>>10368942
Great band, great track

>> No.10368988

>>10368842
There's only a test done on rats and 2 case studies afaik.
Every other study concludes that soy won't turn you into a girl.

>> No.10368990

>>10368939
Fuck off to /b/ you meme loving faggot
>>10368942
You too brainlet

>> No.10369002

Occasional reminder beer is much more estrogenic than soy.

>> No.10369006
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10369006

Drank it daily for a year.

Initially thought it was making me skinny but turned out it was due to doing 7 hours if cycling a day without eating more when I started drinking it.

Also had a growth spurt from 6'4" to 6'6" over the year, although I doubt it's due to the soy.

In conclusion, nothing negative or positive appears to happen.

>> No.10369012

>>10369006
you forgot to open your mouth cucklord

>> No.10369016

>>10369006
Soya is non-GMO it ok

>> No.10369023

>>10369012
Lol most the people I've seen buying it are normal looking woman and chunks. Very few "soyboys" seem to buy it compared to those groups

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>>10369023
they are consuming 4chan all day is the problem. Go do some jumping jacks

>> No.10369065

>>10369044
I don't actively work out but do quite a bit of cycling/walking. On the rare occasion something physical has happened e.g. recently me and a friend were running to make a train, I've done much better than the average person

99 percent sure I'm more physically fit than most the soyboy meme posters here

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10369070

You think it's just a meme? Think again.

>> No.10369075

>>10369070
How can someone be proud of this? Years ago at a party I couldn't open a pepsi bottle and my friend had to do it and that stupid one little incident pushed me to get /fit/ and stronger to avoid that happening again.

>> No.10369093

The plantestrogen in soy looks like mammalianestrogen, but has a different chemical makeup. Different chemicals do different shit so soy-estrogen does different things then human estrogen.

>> No.10369115

>>10369075
insecure af

>> No.10369169

>>10369002
Fug

>> No.10369186

>>10369070
KeK

>> No.10369187

>>10368409
Your dad is just weak

>> No.10369196
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SoYbOy!

>> No.10370017

everyone who believes the "soyboy" meme should be gassed

>> No.10370431

>ywn get a white slightly fem shy bf and lock his dick in chastity until he agrees to shave all his body hair and take hormones and then force him to get degenerate piercings and exclusively wear female clothing and use a woman's name and suck lots of cock for pay
feels bad desu

>> No.10370512

>>10370431
Wat

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>>10368235
I'll bite.
>turns you into a woman
No, it just emasculates you. You're still a man, you're just not a high test man. Men who wish to transition into women still need HRT to gain feminine features.
>and makes you prefer Nintendo products
That is a personal opinion and your diet does not affect that. The reason why people associate Nintendo with the soyboy meme is because Nintendo characters are generally geared towards children and young teens (and end up getting an adult audience due to childhood nostalgia or escapism from adult life), meanwhile other gaming systems try to aim for older teens and adults (and consequently end up with child audiences anyway due to poor parenting and rebellious kids wanting to get into things they're not "allowed" to). Nintendo tries to appeal to entire families with its "all ages" content, even though normal single adults and parents often like to enjoy content that children cannot since they want a life separate than what they make their kids consume. There are plenty of adult men and women that enjoy Nintendo that are not transgender and do not consume soy, /v/ just loves to meme that people who like Nintendo products are all overweight manchildren due to a vocal minority of them being such.
You could actively be more offensive to numales by mocking them for liking shit music, being pro-feminist, and being obsessed with Harry Potter and Disney. You would be efficiently attacking more normies that way.
But to answer your question yes, soy contains estrogen but it does not "turn you into a woman" and it is not the reason why adults like Nintendo.

>> No.10370563

>>10370431
you have some serious issues, faggot.

>> No.10370834

The people who visit 4chan are retarded and believe in memes: the thread

>> No.10371286

I remember in my health class in 4th grade we got on this subject, before the controversies. My old fat black female health teacher remarked off handedly not to drink soy milk "cause the little boys are growing breasts cause they drink too much." I have keep that moment with me in the back of my mind, it was a weird thing to hear in fourth grade. funny to see how the issue has blossomed

>> No.10371435

>>10371286
I'll take things that never happened for $400 Alex
>meme loving faggot

>> No.10372102

>itt: cryin' ass bitch tits
ahhh haahaa haaaa ha y'alls drank soy an now y'alls pee pees is pregnant with a babby

HAA HAA HAAA HAAA AND THAT BABBYS NAME IS OBAMA

>> No.10372146

yes.
t. numale soyboy who tried to MTF

>> No.10372151

>>10370834
you didn‘t believe in the crashing this plane meme?

>> No.10372162

>>10368508
>Reading
>feminine
Fucking hell mate get a grip. I blame the invention of the TV for the downfall of men.
Also the rest of your shit is shit, I grew up on a farm and would eat meat everyday and now I'm vegan, my beard growth hasn't changed, I still can't grow one

>> No.10372166

>>10372162
Also I would like to point out that all the guys I know that would class as "soyboys" eat meat

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10372173

>Drinks soyboy meme milk
>Drinks cow tittu juice
ISHYGDTT

Real cool guys drink OATMILK. Oatmilk is the king of milks.

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>>10368460
Not drinking either one is the real redpill
>t. coconut milk masterrace
They even use sunflower lecithin instead of soy lecithin.

>> No.10374173

>>10368281
redpilled af

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>>10368235
You'd have to subsist entirely on the shit to actually see any effects. It's the same dumb shit as the people who try to get naturally fermented sodas treated as actual booze when the alcohol content is so low you'd have to chug a gallon of the stuff to cop a buzz.

>> No.10374240

>>10368529
the problem is lack of physical activity you dunce

>> No.10375568

>>10368281
Correct opinion.

>> No.10375598

>>10372177
>Drinking shitty plant substitutes when goat milk exists~

>> No.10375621

>>10375598
>Drinking shitty animal substitutes when human milk exists~

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>>10368529
>pff whitey is done for asian men are the new paragon o-

>> No.10376430

>>10375621
>Implying I wouldn't drink human milk from qt pies if I could buy it.

>> No.10376485

>>10372102
nope
lefties still can't meme

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>>10376485
Leftists are usually effeminate and fit the soyboy stereotype, is there any wonder their sense of humor rivals that of women?

>> No.10376580

>>10368235

Honestly there is not. In my experience I (was) a big meat eater. Would eat pepperoni pizza, lots of bacon, salami, sausages, beef steak, pork, etc. A couple years ago I was 5'11, 160lbs and I developed gynecomastia/man boobs. I had a skinny fat physique and just last year I decided to spent $9000 on plastic surgery to correct it. The surgeon I saw did a great job. Removed the glands and did liposuction around the upper chest area. Now I have a perfect flat chest and I go to the gym twice a week. I also have switched a pescatarian diet. I think that the hormones in all the meat I was eating really contributed negatively to my health and also were a big part of the reason I got tits. I would recommend anyone here who has gyno to consider surgery. It restored my confidence.

>> No.10376694

>>10376580
>9k for a memesuction and gyno op
>not just opping the gyno and losing bodyfat by yourself
You done goofed up.
>pescatarian
Enjoy your heavy metal poisoning.

>> No.10376701

>>10368235
Soy doesn't effect Chads

>> No.10376761

>>10368267
*average 4chan user

>> No.10376769

>>10368267
>I'm just saying. The human race has been fine consuming liquids out of lead vessels for centuries, if you're dumb enough to believe that they're all of a sudden creating "poisoning" then you're the ultimate retard.

>> No.10376799

Soy and regular milk have shit load of estrogen. Just do heavy cream

>> No.10377067

>>10376769
Not even him but lead poisoning didn't fucking spontaneously show up. It was always poisoning people and they made the connection. That would be saying "Soyboys have been around as long as milk/soy, we only just realised now though"

>> No.10377137

When are anons gonna learn that making other anons insecure is literally the number one meme here

If you think your masculinity is going to be impacted by soy, you are probably pretty fucking insecure about it in the first place

>> No.10377146

>>10368235
Because trannies are a thing now you have a bunch of knuckle dragging males running around like headless chickens afraid that "they gon turn me into a woman mamma sue"

In short we should exterminate the Bible belt.

>> No.10377181
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10377181

>>10368235
you tell me

https://youtu.be/XYXkHIsslD0