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Is Japanese cuisine the best cuisine?

>> No.10214149

> 300 dollars for raw fish and rice

>> No.10214155

>>10214144
No, japanese food is pretty bland by itself. If you go over to japan you'll understand how little meat there is, oil, sauces and sugars used to mask the lack of flavor, and how expensive shit is.

That said I do enjoy some japanese food but a lot of it is meh.

>> No.10214188

>>10214149
>all sushi costs 300 bucks
Sup flyover

>> No.10214197

>>10214144
No, gourmet French is.

>> No.10214229

>>10214144
Depends, are we talking "authentic japanese food", or "american styled japanese food". Huge difference

>> No.10214238

>>10214144
Japanese cuisine is not the best overall, but I would say it is the best as presenting food with minimal alteration.
Freshness, wildness, and other simplistic factors play a major part in the appeal of Japanese cuisine, and I would say that it conveys that better than any other food culture.

>> No.10214251

Katsudon is my favorite meal.

>> No.10214282

>>10214229
Hungarian-styled Japanese food.

>> No.10214315

It's good once in a while, but the flavors are pretty underwhelming.

>> No.10214319

>>10214315
Pretty much this. Being in japan for +1 month and you really begin to wish there was more variety to the food than there is in most things. I now know why japanese constantly love sweets at least.

>> No.10214322

its my favorite thing to eat and I have it almost daily
of all the ethnic foods it's the one I eat the most

I think I eat it so much because its generally pretty healthy though, but I also enjoy it a lot

>> No.10214326

>>10214322
>I think I eat it so much because its generally pretty healthy though

You're eating mostly carbs, how is the pretty healthy?

>> No.10214345

>>10214326
carbohydrates are good for you, it's what the majority of your diet should be made of

>> No.10214350

No; Indonesian is.

>> No.10214363

>>10214149
>Fork over the money, gaijin san. This normar price of traditional Japanese sushi! Would I rie?

>> No.10214371

>>10214322
Enjoy your intestinal parasites.

>> No.10214383

>>10214345
A balanced diet is the best out there. Stuffing yourself with 80% carbs daily just allows you to go on about life, has nothing to do with health.

>> No.10214480

It's the UK of Asia. Shitty bland food

>> No.10214501

>>10214319
They're called desserts, or pastries. Sweets is a retarded word

They're fucking garbage too. Only Japan could fuck up desserts to the point that they're borderline tasteless. I'd blame their shit tier dairy, but even if they had good milk and butter, they'd still manage to find a way to turn it into an unsweetened blob of trash.

>> No.10215279

>>10214144
actual japan food is pretty nice (not the modern western fast food stuff)

but the general lack of spicy stuff is a big minus

>> No.10215300

I never know what to do with those giant piles of shredded daikon.

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>> No.10215416

Best looking maybe

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>>10214144
Japanese food? OH BOY!! I NEED EXTRA SERVINGS OF SOY SAUCE

>> No.10215468

>>10215377

This shit is so fucking comfy; I miss food pics guy. What's on the end of the skewer in the middle?

>> No.10215576
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>> No.10215591

>>10214144
>flyover
No, it's bland as fuck and overpriced.

>> No.10215596

soyboy: the cuisine

>> No.10215606

>>10215445
Christ this meme is embarrassing.

>> No.10215618

Yeah the best cuisine for posting on instagram and your snapchat story to show every one of your fake friends how "cultured" you are

>> No.10215621

>>10215468
Looks like a scallop (with the skirt on).

>> No.10215640

>>10215606
Face it, the Japs have the masculinity of puppy dogs and it's because they eat this soyfood. That's why hipsters love it so much.

>> No.10216499

>>10214188
Lol you're everywhere

>> No.10216506

>>10214501
>Sweets is a retarded word
This is the intellectual level /ck/ functions at now.
Peak stupidity has been reached.

>> No.10217470

>>10215640
it all makes sense now

>> No.10218422

>>10214501
What about candy or sugary drinks like bubble tea? They can't really be called either a dessert or a pastry. 'Sweets' encompasses all primarily sweet things in a simple way.

>> No.10218477

>>10218422
Only babies eat that stuff, you need to be +18 to post here.

>> No.10219155

>>10214501
An Daifuku is delicious, what are you talking about?

>> No.10219167

>>10216499
Of course, a weeb has to defend the Japanese honor.

>> No.10219352

>>10214144
Not even close. Stayed in Japan for two months.
Although the Nips are excellent for enjoying fish in thousands of ways. But other than that, yes it’s a very interesting cuisine, but no, it’s not the best because it’s doesn’t have an universal appeal (Japanese food doesn’t have that much of variety and many people can be turned off by its specificities) and its impact and influence in the world are nowhere near as traditional French cuisine.

>> No.10219372

>>10214144
If you take in caloric intake then yes.
For full flavour bomb then no, but damn they have good food. (Lived there almost 10 years.

>> No.10219405

>>10215606
t. mad soi child

>> No.10219446

>>10216506
Sweets is a word for retarded kids. Like you, evidentially

>>10218422
>Gonna drink some sweets
Good grief...

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>>10216506
Would you cluster foods together as salts or sours? He has a point
>>10214363
Not so fast, Chairman Mao

>> No.10219523

>>10215576
Post more meat

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>>10219523
Gyudon is fucking great. Had lots of these when I was visiting Japan.

>> No.10220463

>>10219744
>literally boiled beef and onions

>> No.10220472

>>10220463
dashi poached you swine

>> No.10220480

>>10220472
>boiling beef in fish piss makes it better

>> No.10220490

>>10220480

You know you look like an idiot and nobody takes you seriously when someone corrects you and you still insist on saying, "hurr boiled meat", right?

>> No.10220495

>>10220490
>He enjoys fish piss boiled slivers of shit tier beef and onions

>> No.10220510

>>10216499
>people who don't spam shitty /tv/ memes and know prices of certain foods are everywhere
I guess

>> No.10220514

>>10220490
>>10220495 This ain't me but most recipes say to bring to boil (or simmer, which is more than poaching) and add onions and beef. Stop being such a fucking weeb.

>> No.10220530

westernized japanese cuisine (katsu/teriyaki/jap curry) is great

>> No.10220533

>>10220514
Oh "most recipes" huh? Well I did a quick google and most of the recipes say to stir fry the meat in a highly flavorful and somewhat liquid-y sauce, which is far from just boiling it. So please stop shaming people for enjoying food just because it makes you unhappy that they are happy

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>> No.10220636

>>10214345
t. 1980s USDA

>> No.10220637
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>> No.10220641

>>10220636
t. 2010s /pol/tard

>> No.10220642

>>10220637
>bukkake
tee hee

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pork

>> No.10220768

>basic ingredients are LITERALLY just soy sauce, mirin, sesame seeds, sugar and sometimes sake
>apply this to assorted vegetables, mushrooms and meat along with rice and call it different names
>world class
Yeah nah

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>>10214144
It's good, but regional variety is what makes it great and you need to go on a country-wide trip for that.

>> No.10220779
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Osaka burger

>> No.10220784

>>10219523
Problem with anything meat in Japan is you get a tiny amount of it and it's usually a shitty cut. Famous meat hot pot lost all appeal to me when I realize you can barely taste the meat.

>> No.10220787

>>10214144
No. It's immensely overrated, and sells itself as "subtle" when it's genuinely just flavorless most of the time.

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>>10214144
they have some weird dishes like plain udon with literally nothing else and people actually order that. it would be like ordering just boiled spaghetti or something.

>> No.10220806

I know no one on /ck/ cares about food. That's a given. That said I'm going to seriouspost anywhere on the 1% chance someone wants to actually talk and not just shitpost.

Japanese food might have its fair share of flaws, but it's hard to argue that it wasn't Japanese influence that created modern Western fine dining. Think about a 50s fine French meal: there's amazing technique on display, but there's no balance, seasonality is an afterthought, the chef's ego stands in the way of humbly presenting beautiful ingredients with minimal distractions. The Japanese influence on Noevelle cuisine allowed European chefs to set aside those unfortunate trends and embrace the totality of the food experience, not just the PRACTICING THE CRAFT of FINE DINING to the expense of actually making a tasty, balanced meal.

To boot, I think the grace and economy of Japanese food is incredible. I challenge any of you to think of a broth that can be made as quickly as dashi that has a fraction of the flavor. I challenge any of you to think of a discipline of butchery more demanding than preparing sushi (HURR DURR JUST CUT THE FISH XD fucking retards kill yourselves). I challenge any of you to name a frying technique more decadent and balanced than tempura.

Fucking nerds get off my board

>> No.10220811

>>10214350
>Indonesian

Most of it is a mix mash between Chinese, Filipino, and Malaysian influences.

>> No.10220812

>>10220797
Because noodles are really the appeal.

>> No.10220820
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if there are ten people , there is nothing that all of ten say delicious.
people in sealess country, city doesn like raw fish. its no problem to me

>> No.10220821

>>10220811
>look at how retarded I am
>a mix of Malaysian
>implying malay and indon is any different
Malay/Indonesian is inarguably the most underrated and underrepresented cuisine along with Korean, Filipino and Ethiopian cuisines

>> No.10220830

>>10214144
>cut up fish in a fancy way and add plain rice
>sell for 20 bucks
dumb gaijin

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The best dish in the world for a person is the dish familiar with that person as a child.
I think that it is the same in the whole world.
I am Japanese, so Japanese food is the best dish to the world for me.
But for young Japanese, hamburgers and Italian may be more familiar than Japanese.

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While watching history drama, I drink sake.
Relishes are Yakitori.
That is one of the enjoyment of the Japanese.
People from all countries have their own enjoyment.

>> No.10221148

>>10215468
That picture was taken by me.
But I posted here is not mine. That is reprinted.
Delivery Shidashi - Bento is usually cool.
However, this box lunch is provided warmed with lime-based heating agent.
The picture of >> 10215444 is its heating agent.

Before the skewers there are long onions and scallops.
If you criticize cooking, you should present that grounds.
Unfounded abusive phrases will lower your value for those who see it.

But this Shidashi-Bento is not very good.
Really good Shidashi - Bento is delicious, even if it is cold.

>> No.10221168

>>10221108
>The best dish in the world for a person is the dish familiar with that person as a child.
based

>> No.10221171

>>10221148
Are you Japanese, anon?

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Meat-free lunch boxed me when I helped the temple.
The box is real Japanese lacquered.
Konnyaku. carrot. Shiitake mushroom. Koya-tofu. Sayaoji. lotus root. bamboo shoots. Ganmodoki. Taro. greens. And pure white rice.
It is at the root of the memory of the Japanese, but very cozy dish.

>> No.10221198

>>10221171
yes.

>> No.10221206

>>10221198
So cool. Do you have Facebook or Skype or WhatsApp?
We could talk about Japanese cuisine and anime and other cool stuff! I know loads about 日本 (Nikon)!
Maybe we could exchange snacks from our countries as well?
友達になろう ;)

>> No.10221268

>>10221206
A study love association of Japanese animation movie "The Last Unicorn" made with American capital was established. I am there.
The party has just been born. But it will spread to the world from now on.
"The Last Unicorn" is a bridge connecting Western European culture with Japanese culture.
I was called 100 bowls. I also have named Sazen.
I was studying the camera of Czechoslovakia.
Sometimes I will take a picture of the dish using the Czechoslovakia lens.

>> No.10221448

>>10221129
Now I really want to get this sake. But I only found it from taiwanese online stores :(

>> No.10221574

>>10221268
What's your Skype username?
I'd love to have an actual real Japanese friend.
My friends would be so jealous.

>> No.10221585

>>10221574
Don't lie, Anon; you don't have any friends.

>> No.10221588

>>10221585
Well I do actually, they're all weeaboos (I'm a serious scholar of Japanese culture) but we get on.

>> No.10221592

>>10221588
There's no need to deceive people on an anonymous forum, Anon.

>> No.10221610

>>10214144
It is in Japan.

>> No.10221613

>>10221610
Of course, anon.
That's a given.

>> No.10221616

>>10221610
Have you been to Japan?

>> No.10221632

>>10221610
I doubt it. Oranges are very rare there.

>> No.10221701

>>10221632
Debate solved

>> No.10221709

>>10221632
dipshit doesn't know what a mikan is

>> No.10222314

>>10215445
men this made me laugh, oh wow

>> No.10222336

"Best" is a really hard thing to quantify when it comes to cuisine. If we go by rewards Japan is one of the most internationally well regarded culinary cultures in the world.

>> No.10222578

>>10214197
This

>> No.10222629

tokatsu and curry have become staples for me desu

>> No.10222632
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>>10214144
Vietnamese is better.

Fight me

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>>10215640

How do you explain China then?
You think they aren't eating a lot of soy?

>> No.10222767

Reminder that Tokyo has the most Michelin Star restaurants in the world

>> No.10222774

>>10222629
>the two most unimaginative Japanese dishes
Fucking weebs.

>> No.10222779

>>10222726
China can get protein from other source like chicken and pig.

Meat cost a fuck tons in Japan.

>> No.10222781

>>10222632
>10 dowwa gijoe for hot watta

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>>10215640
>unsheathes katana in your path

>> No.10222787

>>10222632
Are those McMuffins?

>> No.10222792

>>10222779
fish is cheap in Japan

>> No.10223178

>>10220760
Great looking texture - is that just panko?

>> No.10223271

>>10223178
Looks like tonkatsu desu

>> No.10223299

>>10214480
whats the france of asia?

>> No.10223339

>>10223299
Korea

>> No.10223476

>>10214238
Traditional Jap food is also pretty healthy. Although current Japan is almost as fat as the states.

>> No.10223501

>>10214144
definitely the cutest

>> No.10223567

>>10223476
>Although current Japan is almost as fat as the states.
I don't know about that, anon.

>> No.10223780

>>10223476
Sure thing tard. Japan 3.30 obesity rate, US 33.70. They are pretty close when your mathematic's education was from evangelical homeschooling.

https://renewbariatrics.com/obesity-rank-by-countries/

>> No.10224128

>>10220830
>Plain rice

t. Never had sushi and stepped food out of my flyover shithole

>> No.10224173

>>10221616
I lived there for 6 years.

>> No.10224579

>>10214188
$10 for raw fish and rice
when I could get 3 times that in caloric intake and taste next door

>> No.10224624

>>10223476
>Traditional Jap food is also pretty healthy.

THIN DOES NOT ALWAYS MEAN HEALTHY.

1. Japs are thin because food is expensive
2. They walk or bike more because cars are STUPID expensive and drivers licenses are hard to get
3. They work very long hours most of the time not eating or sleeping right
4. They have a fat tax
5. They don't let all kids pass P.E. just cause no child left behind

Most japs are very unhealthy and their teeth show for it. Vitamin supplements are everywhere, advertised constantly, and are bought all the time. Ever wonder why the Jap cold is so bad? Because them trying to combat sickness on an already lacking body some of the shit most people have in them. You people need to live in japan for a bit before spouting this crap.

>> No.10224632

>>10214144
no, it isn't.

>> No.10224719

>>10224579
gee I might as well eat a slop consisting of lentils and pureed vegetables and chicken, food is purely about how much calories you can get per dollar after all.

>> No.10224734

>>10224719
>and taste

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>>10214144

>> No.10224835

Food pics from Japan.

>> No.10225343

>>10222779
>meat cost a fuck tons in Japan
>can literally go to Yoshinoya and get a whole bowl of beef for 350 yen (3.30 USD), even less
you're not a japan expert just because you watch vice and keep telling yourself you don't watch anime

>> No.10225351

>>10223339
So literally the most overrated place in Asia? I can agree to that.

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>>10223476
>Although current Japan is almost as fat as the states.
It's been awhile since I've seen someone go full retard. I'm actually impressed.

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>> No.10226291

>>10224835
I miss that guy

>> No.10226321

>>10225343
you can get the same thing for third the price in anywhere else in Asia.

>> No.10226471

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnHov6I-ooY&feature=youtu.be&t=1m40s
BBQ

>> No.10226477

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw5_DO0MdaI
Salisbury steak

>> No.10226482

>>10214144
no, it's extremely overhyped and their obsession with respect is obnoxiously sanctimonious.

>> No.10226508

>>10226477
you seem to really like croquette curry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuy5fmJ6pqY
is it cheap to eat out in JP?

>> No.10226547

>>10224734
who?

>> No.10226562

>>10214144

For eastern cuisine I prefer Vietnamese
For western cuisine I prefer German

>> No.10226565

>>10214144
no. Spanish food is the best.

>> No.10226572

>>10224734
>sushi isn't fucking delicious

pleb tier palate detected

>> No.10226594

>>10220821
>Korean, Filipino

They need westernized names for foods, those languages are just too ugly for most people to want to bother otherwise.

>> No.10226649

>>10222767
Michelin ratings pretty much just rate the amount of pretentious bullshit a restaurant features, while I won't go full retard and say that the food is sub-par, it isn't good enough to justify the price or the shit you need to put up with to dine there.

>> No.10226650

>>10220787
This.

It is especially easy to fool Americans this way because our tastebuds are so blown out and we're so desperate to appear worldly

>> No.10226653

>>10214144
Japanese cuisine that has been 'muricanized is the best cuisine.

>> No.10226913

>>10226565
chicken and rice 20 dollar jose.

>> No.10226915

>>10226653
what like california rolls? From my understanding Katsu, sushi, terrakyi, udon, ramen, etc. are commonly eaten in Japan.