/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I like four winds

>>9822725
Where can I order live oak?
Their stuff is supposed to be amazing but I can't find it anywhere.
Guess I'll just stick with Weihenstephaner until then.

I'm thinking of making an internationally distributed Euro beer primer infographic. Suggestions?

>They didn't have either Augustiner or Weihenstephaner Helles
Feels pretty bad man, I miss my German beer.

>>9822725
Dilly dilly into the pit of misery.

i brew my own
>belgian witbier

>>9822996
in the glass

Brooklyn is better than that

How do the different ingredients in beer effect the body? Stouts and porters leave me feeling way less shitty than wheat based beers, same with hops.

>tfw I live ~5 minutes from a Dogfish Head restaurant/bar

120M IPA on tap.

>>9823116
same dude, are you in the milton/rehoboth area

Bronx Brewery is high tier, I'm not sure how much they distributr though

>>9823120
Nope, Washington DC area they have 3 Dogfish head alehouses.

Dogfish Head belongs in top tier of the strength of 60 minute alone

>>9823127
ah, nice. being so close to the original brewery is nice, you get lots of difference flavors on tap if you can be assed to go, but honestly most of the experimental stuff i've gotten to try has been pretty hit and miss. i was especially disappointed with their world wide stout. it is nice having constant access to classics like 120 minute and the lot, though

>>9823145
Yeah i've had a few of their more interesting limited brews and some have been good, others not my thing. But as you said, having access to the classics is by far the best part.

>>9822908
I suggest avoiding imports because there are always better American beer at those price levels

>Sierra Nevada, stone and deschutes being that low

Mark of the pleb.

>>9823638
Yeah I'd absolutely switch Deschutes w/ Lagunitas

>>9823638
>thinking SN, stone, or deschutes are anything special
who's the real pleb I wonder?

Is there a way to avoid a metallic taste in my beers? I've been getting that a lot in stouts. Ruined an entire pack of Breakfast Stout for me

>>9822725
I feel like north coast should be higher on that list. Pranqster is good and Old Rasputin was my go-to stout. Got me through college.

This was all the store had for guiness. Didn't realize it was a light beer until having a couple. Disappointed about not getting the rich guiness flavor but at least I won't wake up with a headache.

>>9822999
Checked how's the taste?

>>9823111
the rule of thumb is the darker the malts, the more unfermentable sugars there are, leaving more residual sugar (body) in the final product.

whatever shittyness you are percieving is horse shit and not backed by science. unless you're alergic to hops (you aren't), it probably has more to do with how well you hydrated around your drinking (or your eating habits that day)

>>9823949
drink better or fresher beer. if you're buying beer in bottles or cans, ALWAYS check the packaging date. if they dont have one dont buy it. don't drink anything older than 3 months, unless barrel aged/mixed fermentation, or over 10% ABV and stored properly

Here's what I would be drinking if I wasn't a broke ass honkey, probably going to walk to the quickiemart for a 40 instead

>>9823116
I'm jealous. I literally have to drive 40 min to the next state over and even then can only get it in a liquor store (for a price less than 10 bucks a bottle that is)

>>9822725
Can /ck/ please add pic related to the infographic (and sierra nevada torpedo if there's interest)

>>9824058
disgusting sewage water

>>9824178
forgot pic

>>9824112
I've never heard of stouts gaining a metallic flavor with age/. Stout should stay good for a very long time

Its really only worth paying attention to dates on a hoppy or lighter beers

>>9823934
They're very solid

Have any of you had Boston Ale? It's really good

>>9824196
>DRINK FROM THE CAN!
>DRINK FROM THE CAN!
>POUR IN A SHAKER!
Don't worry, you didn't miss much. HeadyT isn't as spectacular as all the people waiting in line to buy say it is.

>>9824264
Why would they ever suggest drinking from the can?

>>9824058
Guinness is the Bud Light of stouts. Try some Old Rasputin or Great Lakes Blackout. Samuel Smith's oatmeal and imperial are both very good too. Also, Belle's Kalamazoo stout.

I'm just here to defend Wicked Weed as their sours are some of the most interesting stuff on the market right now, sellout or no.

Back on my/still on my bullshit. Best winter beer in MN and my store has it on sale this week

>>9824196
That can't be on the infographic, it's not widely available

>>9824282
cuz it's unfiltered and it has the weird yeast floaties in it. It's a little ugly but not that bad (in the beers I've had with floaties at least)

>>9824497
>cuz it's unfiltered and it has the weird yeast floaties in it
So they just don't want to scare away people who aren't used to sediment?
Because a glass is definitely a better way to experience a beer than a can/bottle as you get a fuller aroma

>>9824058
Never liked Draught.
Extra Stout is where the moneys at.

>>9824506
Yeah, basically they don't want to scare people away. Though from what I can tell, the people seeking out Heady Topper aren't the type to drink good beer from a can

>>9822865
my nigga

>>9824348
Guiness Extra Stout is a great stout, only the Draught is mediocre

>>9824506
The one time I prefer drinking straight out of the bottle is adjunct/pale lagers.

>reading comprehension

>>9824369

>>9824348
>Old Rasputin or Great Lakes Blackout.
top tier palate sir.

>>9822725
'm interested in getting into homebrewing, besides Charlie Papazian, what else are some newb friendly stuff to know more before i get in too deep?

a few of those "best" brewerie seem like meme breweries

Why did Founder's discontinue their APA?

>>9822725

>faggoty 15 year olds insisting on having a discord for every little thing in their lives

discord is where information goes to die and where preteens go to play politics and power games because mommy doesn't let them go outside after school.

Has anyone here ever been to McSorley's ale house? I want to know what style those 2 beers are

Do any girls like craft beer? I never see grills order anything but Bud Light and Corona

>>9825598
My ex. And I let her go...

>>9825598
t. high school student

>>9825805
I'm 22 and go to many different bars...I rarely see girls order any beers besides Bud Light, Corona, Heineken, etc. But especially Bud Light.

>>9825798
Damn. What were her favorite beers?

>>9825820
>I rarely see girls order any beers besides Bud Light, Corona, Heineken, etc. But especially Bud Light.
see >>9825805

high school or 22, you're broke, and you know broke people

>>9825834
You're autistic

I love craft beer but you're delusional if you think the average normie girl in any part of the US is drinking craft beer

Besides, Heineken and craft beer is the same price

>>9825840
>normie girl
who the fuck talks like this? and I'm the autist?
>>9825840
>Besides, Heineken and craft beer is the same price
I'll take your word for it. bud light is definitely cheaper than normal beer. it's my go-to end of the night beer when I need something in my hand to not be weird, and I'm waiting for someone else to finish their actual drink.

>>9825904
It's pretty normal vernacular on 4chan, you newfag.

Bud Light at a bar is only a little cheaper than craft, it will be 4 dollars for a 12 oz as opposed to 6 dollar for a draught pint of craft.

I'm similar with Bud Light, I'll have one at the end of the night when I'm torched but still want one more beer

>>9825924
>as opposed to 6 dollar for a draught pint of craft.
lol, where the fuck is that? some craft brewery in Idaho? 6 bucks is bud light happy hour prices at a cheap dive bar. a pint of something good is going to run you $10 around here

and I've been here all summer, roastie soiboi

>>9825929
I live in one of the most expensive part of the country, so I think you're just trying to 1up me.

Where the fuck do Bud Lights cost 6 dollars during happy hour? It's not even that expensive here in NYC

>>9825945
NYC

where the fuck is a pint of the good stuff 6 bucks?

>>9825951
3 Diamond Door in Bushwick has 6 dollar Bell's Two Hearted draughts

>>9825951
actually, most bars I go to in Brooklyn and Lower Manhattan have craft pints for 6-7 dollars

>>9825965
oh yeah I guess I have noticed the drink prices get ridiculous once you get far enough out there

on the other hand, you look around and you're surrounded by children, so is it really worth it?

>>9825977
where do you even hang out where beer is that expensive?

and if 28 year olds are children to you, then you're probably too old to be shitposting on 4chan

>>9825984
nomad and UWS mostly. I just checked a couple spots I go to and they do have some stuff in the $6-8 range but it's like, pilsners and "session IPAs" and that sort of thing, which I usually don't go for if I'm going for beer

and yes, I'm way too old to be shitposting here

>>9826005
Do you only drink Westy and Chimay?

>>9822725
Redds is fucking disgusting.

t. ausfag who got bamboozled

>>9826017
does that even count as beer? I thought they just made cider

>>9826028
It's a disgusting combination of the worst bits of cider + the worst bits of beer.

>>9822908
Add trappists.

What do trappist ales taste like? Heavily spiced?

>>9824815
Guinness Extra Stout is still pretty average. Guinness Foreign Extra Stout is where it's at.

>>9825598
Some fat ones and tumblrish ones do. Most stick to wine.

>>9826073
Dubbels - biscuits, figs, caramel, spice
Tripels - sweet, fruit, spicy, witbier
Quads - sweet, rum, dried fruit, red wine, spice

>>9825965
.

>>9822725
been really into stouts and porters lately, probably the weather

>>9826867
also inb4 dirty fridge

>>9822725
Daily reminder that bells is decent teir at best and the large majority of there beer is unoffending, boring, overmalted normie swill. Two-hearted and a couple rare releases doesn't make them some amazing brewery. Especially not at the level of founders.

I'm sick and I really want a beer but I know it'll just make me more miserable.

>>9826914
founder's makes some normie turds too but it doesn't detract from their general level of greatness

>>9826914
Bells isn't as good as founders, but its solidly in pretty good status

>>9825929
Not everyone lives in San Francisco. $6 for a good tap craft beer is a pretty typical price at a bar or restaurant in much of the country, even less in some more rural areas

Got some of this over the weekend. Can't wait until I have an excuse to bust it out.

>>9822725
Has anyone had this stuff before? It's an AAL but it tastes way better than Budweiser, High Life, even Pabst. It's also cheaper. I know /ck/ is a craft beer board, but I'm interested in thoughts.

>>9828969
Lol its fucking horrific. Only gets by due to how cheap it is

>>9828969
Winning the special olympics, etc...

>>9828988
Oh come on, it isn't that bad. It lacks character but it just tastes like corn and barley.

>>9822725
>Tecate on Pleb Tier

Fuck yourself. This is the god-tier beverage for summer activities.

>>9829294
its the exact same as every other shitty macro

>>9829229
"it isn't that bad" is not a convincing argument

I get it, it's top of the trash pile and between that and all the other macro swill would probably choose it or maybe pbr or high life at a hot summer BBQ if I lacked other choices. but there no reason for me to ever buy some myself because I'm not desperately poor.

also you ever notice how macro lagers become undrinkable concoctions of metallic tasting urine after they go a bit flat when you leave it out for 15 minutes? good beer doesn't do that even if it loses carb

>>9824497

Fuck yes Minnesota. Just got some Indeed Old Friend last night.

>>9822908

Jesus has anyone had that beer? Makes me nauseous. I thought their Shploing! was alright though.

>>9828969

cheap pbr clone. 4 pack of 16oz cans for 2.50 here, it's my go to deal

>>9824196
It’s good, but I’ll take Julius over it ant day.

>>9828969
Just flashbacked to college. That stuff is diarrhea in a can, but you can’t beat the price.

the drink for patricians, and only $2 a bottle

>>9826167
What's a good one to start with? Chimay Red?

>>9826624
you bought a keg for yourself? how much did that cost?

>>9826914
Overmalted? it's better to be balanced than to release boring West Coast IPA pinecone sodas
>>9828842
I live in NYC which is just as expensive as SF and $6-$7 dollars is the norm for a craft beer

>>9829320
no it's not. It doesn't have any off flavors and you can actually taste the hops

What's the verdict

>>9830000
Chimay, St Bernardus, Rochefort are all worth trying and widely distributed.

Tripel Karmeliet is my fav tripel, and maybe my fav beer overall.

What are your favorite Christmas beers /ck/?
St bernardus and delirium Noel are my go good, I also like Sam Adams white christmas.

Boston Lager is actually pretty good. No idea what previous posts I've seen about it are on about. Tastes better than a lot of things I have tried.

>>9824218
believe it or not things happen in this world that you haven't heard of. some stouts should stay good for a long time. others, not so much.

you are wrong

Opening this bad boy tomorrow night

>>9829682
How is Old Friend? I haven't picked it up yet. Comparable to their Stir Crazy at all?

>>9828969
this is the go-to beer for my college, I'm rather fond of it

>>9830012
bad

>>9825598
Because craft beers have super high amounts of calories in them. A single Dogfish 120M is like 500 calories

>>9831896
>A single Dogfish 120M is like 500 calories
With 15-20% ABV on top of it.

What kind of chick would bother drinking that?

Alright folks, what brews from Clown Shoes are actually good? Local store just got some and I don't want to go in blind

I want to try Founder's, but their Breakfast Stout 4-pack is $14 here in Canada, should I even bother?

>>9822725
I'm pretty sure you can get Shiner in most of the US these days.

>>9832969
Sounds cheap for Canada lol. Its pretty good though. Definitely worth getting when its available. Ive had mixed results on it though. Some packs taste quality, others are really carbonated and off tasting. Check the dates before you buy it

They sell 4 packs near me for 10-11 bucks now. Years ago it was 16. Thanks San Miguel

>>9831031
I can't say I'm an expert on Christmas beers, but the St. Bernardus is truly fantastic. It tastes just like a cake I had once around the holidays: chocolatey and gingery, and just barely sweet.

>>9822725
Anyone else here have diabetes? Would like to try some of these drinks, but I'm worried about the sugar contents in them.

>>9824077
it was awesome. cut the amount of coriander in half. felt like it was gonna be too much. glad i did.

>>9826867
fucking love Gate City, always got OTP in the fridge. Variant nearby is pretty decent as well.

>>9833000
Founders announced that Breakfast Stout is now
a Year round beer.

>>9822865
Where you from? I live in Texas and can find it everywhere. Its really good. Love me Weihenstephaner too, especially the Vitus.

>>9831896
Not necessarily, a Founder's All Day has the same amount of calories as a Heineken or Corona

And counting calories is a lost cause if you're gonna drink 9 beers

>>9826017
Most of the beers in "shit" tier deserve to be wayyy lower than Bud Light or Miller, but the most common beers MUST be the worst of the worst, right?

>>9833677
aren't calories essentially tied to ABV? picking dogfish 120 is a hilariously bad example

>>9833823
yeah, you can drink two 4% beers or one 8% beer and end up with roughly the same amount of calories. alcohol content makes up most of the calories in alcoholic drinks

>>9833823
Yes, and I agree.

120 minute is not a good example at all, a SNPA or Lagunitas IPA are better examples, both around 180 calories or something like that.

>>9834060
but lagunitas is like 6% and light beers are usually like 4% or 4.5%

i guess people who don't know this/have a fucked up understanding of nutrition might see a higher calorie number and think it's bad

you can't really avoid calories when drinking lol

>>9834073
Well yeah, you don't have to drink as many of them to get drunk. And right, if you plan on getting drunk it will be a lot of calories no matter what.

>>9834073
But I think it's also about palate, someome who's only used to Bud Light might not be ready for more intense flavors

>>9831896
lol at picking the single highest ABV of relatively available beer to discuss the calories of good beer. 120M IPA is insanely atypical of craft beer

polished off a 6-pack of pic related tonight, what have you guys been drinking?

>>9831096
well how was it

>>9824218
I get metallic notes in super fresh stouts, never aged ones, but that doesn't mean they all stay good. I wouldn't age anything under ~7.5%

>>9831078
Yeah it actually is really good, along with Boston Ale.

I think some beer snobs just hate on it because it's widely available.

>>9834341
how was it?

>>9834372
Oh I love this shit, easy to drink year-round and great with food. I'd recommend all of Bent Paddle's canned releases besides their pilsner

i'm a curious person by nature so i've been trying lots of bog-standard mass-produced beers when i decide to get drunk. stuff like blue moon, shock top, sapporo, olde english, steel reserve. should i bother continuing to explore these? they more or less taste the fucking same. is people having brand preferences a meme?

i don't always like the IPAs i try but at least they're different.

>>9833155
Im over in athens so I guess I havent seen Variant, the terminus was actually in my kroger, and is pretty good, Ill be on the look out for more from Gate City

>>9834476
theres slight differences, so its really the "Ive drank this more than anything else, so the other stuff tastes weird"

>>9834476
Try to find a brewery that has a tasting room. Most beers aren't cellar beers. Most taste the best RIGHT when they're ready to be tasted.

This was pretty fucking special.

I tried every single winter warmer my liquor store carried. This one was by far and away the best. The spices are there, and there's a slight creaminess, but overall it's just a really balanced, smooth beer.

>>9822725
>Live in based Oklahoma
>Prairie BOMB! occasionally runs out here because they want the national market

I never thought I would be the guy that goes "hey, it's a $7 beer, but it's worth it", but I am. You've absolutely paid more than that for a decent beer at a bar, and this stuff is next level.

>>9834817
There is nothing based about Oklahoma's alcohol laws

>>9824348
>Old Rasputin
My nigga

>>9834798
interesting, flying dog in my experience is usually kind of a miss. i might have to try this if i find it.

Always see these at the market but haven't bothered. How are 805s?

>>9836074
Not that great. Wheat beers are shit. Poured it out.

>>9836074
if you're at a shitty bar/restaurant where the only other choices are macros it's ok but not worth buying at a store

hey lads, I'm in netherlands/belgium/germany for a few months, and coming from australia (piss lager hellscape), I'm entirely overwhelmed

Where do I start? Even the local grocery store of the village I'm in has more selection (and for 1/3 of the price of what I'd pay back home fuck me) than I've ever seen in my life

>>9828482
>Have liver infection or some shit
>Cant drink any alcohol at all

I'M NOT GONNA MAKE IT

>>9829761
Chzecked, good choice

who else Weißbier here

>>9823592
But what if the American beers are imports, and trappist are domestic?

DONUT DRANK HOP
IT HAV S-TROJAN

>>9836855
>Wheat beers are shit

>>9832992
yup, nh groceries sell them by the case

>>9822725
>goose island over sam adams

anon... i

>>9834341
I wouldn't intentionally age a weaker stout (as I would an imperial stout), but at the same time I have never had one that I thought tasted noticeably old unlike IPA where its super easy to go old

>IPA

>>9831340
Similar to Stir Crazy, yeah, more ginger and orange notes. Has that "Christmas Ale" feel, similar to Southern Tier 2xMAS

>>9836045
Same. Don't care for their overly-aggressive IPA's and the like. But this was a rare "hit" for me. They have a few good shandies, too, if you're into that.

>>9834995
I know. Even after the "reforms" we just passed (which go into effect in 2018), we're still cucked beyond all reason.

But our local breweries are top notch. I've been to California, Oregon, Idaho, Washington, and Milwaukee, and honestly? Some Oklahoma brews put theirs to shame. Too bad most of you will never try the "old formula" f5 Coop IPA. The modern interpretation is weaker ABV, is a more filtered beer (old ones were cloudy), and is served in a mincy 12 oz instead of the 16oz pints of yesteryear. However, if you like IPA, and can ever get your hands on Roughtail's Hoptrometrist, do so. It's worth the money.

>>9836855
>wheat beers are shit

I'm not a fan of wheat beers myself, but really? It's just a different flavor. If you like beer, you can't hate wheats. Even mediocre wheats, at worst are just kinda weak beers with no downsides. Now rye beer, on the other hand, tastes like soy sauce if you do it wrong.

>>9834476
blue moon and shock top are "belgian whites". Sapporo is a japanese dry "rice lager" (admittedly nearly same as things like budweiser, which uses rice). Oldge English and steel reserve are malt liquor, and are basically as sweet as shock top or blue moon, but about twice the alcohol.

Those are all comparing apples to oranges, and they're all mediocre beers? You want a recommendation on each "style" you mentioned, or some new styles to try, and I can help you out. But if you can't taste the difference between them, then what's the point anyway?

>>9822725
Obligatory Busch posting

who here /busch/?

>>9836855
also go fuck yourself faggot

>>9834789
Tonight's beer was pretty great, too.

>>9823121
I have their IPA
Wasn't really all that jazzed for it, but that was literally my first ipa.

Harpoon Cranbeery was super discounted at the grocery and I see why. Hefeweizen with cranberry juice added doesn't amount to anything exciting. Two Roads Bergamonster is nice though.

>>9822725
Anyone from Ohio? Preferably the northeast? I got some beers here looking for opinion. I love this stuff. Not sure if anyone else can confirm or if it is just me?

>>9839093
Same person. Have another here I feel is very nice to try. Same question as above. Anyone else have tried? Confirm?

>>9838566
what reforms were passe?

>>9838566
I actually do want to go to Oklahoma city some day

>>9838694
I've had one of their limited edition IPAs and it was amazing, I haven't had their regular one yet though

>>9839093
NE Ohiofag here. Not a big fan of Rhinegheist myself, but my friends that like IPAs really seem to enjoy their stuff. Their non-IPA offerings leave a lot to be desired.

>>9839315
What Ohio breweries would you recommend?

Very yeasty, super light body. Makes me wish it was summer. :(

>>9825598
My mom is pretty big on craft beers. She really likes pale ales and stouts. When I think of it though, aside from her and one other family member, all the women I know drink cocktails, sweet wines, and macro beers. I have one friend that really likes commercial ciders, but that stuff is so sweet it's almost like apple soda for kids. I have a few gallons of cider in secondary right now, but it's coming along nice and tart, and I don't plan on backsweetening.

Is it a sin not to sniff my beers before I drink them?

I don't want to be seen doing that, plus I don't think it adds anything to my beer enjoyment.

>>9839499
i usually like commercial ciders, stuff like ace and angry orchard, but how do i even try "real" cider? is it sold in big-box stores like total wine and bevmo? i wouldn't know what to look for

>>9839499
Do you ever hang out with your mom and drink craft beers?

If I ever get a gf, I'll try to introduce her to good beer.

>>9839504
do whatever the fuck you like

I really only sniff the complex and rare beers

>>9839507
I've only tried a few ciders. If I'm remembering correctly, Angry Orchard isn't terribly sweet, but not particularly dry either. I'm not sure if it's available stateside, but Orchard Thieves is very, very sweet. Same goes for Stella cider. Bulmers is fairly dry, but is pretty middling in my opinion.
This relative resurgence of cider in the US market should bode well for the future. Check around for craft ciders. I can't remember the name, but I had one a few years back from Maine that was pretty good.
>>9839549
We've gone to a few breweries and did tastings, and I'll typically have a few beers with my parents. Usually the commentary doesn't go too far beyond "it's good" or "too sweet." My immediate family shares pretty similar tastes as far as food and drink go, which makes things easier.
Last (only) gf I had, I tried introducing to tea. I really enjoyed teaching her the ins-and-outs of tea, but I don't think it really stuck. It's always great to be able to help someone to appreciate something beautiful that he or she might not necessarily even think twice about.

>>9839575
I love craft beer but despite having drank them for 7 years, I can't describe them that specifically. Like I can describe if it's malty, hoppy, piney, roasted, etc. but not "plum, fig, toffee, biscuit" etc

Did you dump your gf for not liking tea enough?

>>9839102
>double hopped

>>9839587
As far as tasting goes, I think I pick up most of the flavors and qualities of a beer, or most foods and drinks for that matter, but I never really care to articulate.
It's more that she wasn't really into me, but was too anxiety ridden to actually say anything and I was too intoxicating on lovey dovey feelings to tell. It was pretty dumb on my part, it was like talking to a corpse, but I was so pleased that I got a girl to do things with me that I just couldn't see it. She did it at a really bad time too, I had just dropped a decent amount cash on something for us to do together. I was at least able to get a partial refund, which I spent on a masturbation toy.

>>9839629
aw, that's sad. What did you have planned?

And yeah I pick up the intended flavors, but aside from certain spices found in certain styles, their simply beer flavors from hops or malt, so it's of no use to me comparing it to biscuits or toffee or whatever.

>>9822780
Good taste. I loved Best Case Ontario

Does Mexico have a craft beer scene?

Why are pale ales called pale ales if they're not pale?

>>9822725
A rank list purely based on how much the beer cost. good to see you can sort ascending in order.

A silly reason I like the trend of craft beer in cans is because they tend to have better art than bottles

>>9839913
bucket

>>9839856
No, everywhere that isn't america is just mud huts

>>9839913
they use pale malts ya dingus

>>9840150
I hope those prices are in Peso's.

>>9839093
NE ohio Beerboi here. I approve of rhinegeist. Never had nowhere in particular before though

Don't mind me. Just being the unreachable golden top of the beer pyramid and the best thing money can buy.

>>9840953
I like strong beer and quads are too much for me. Just end up tasting heavy and cloying. I'll take a good Dubbel or Tripel any day

>>9840815
Dude, if those were in dollars the summation of that board would be greater than the GNP of mexico.

If I can really only stomach sweet mixed drinks like margaritas and fruity drinks like lemon liquer, is there any hope that I'll ever find a beer I like? My brother and sister are both super into beer, but I could never get the palate for it.

>not liking cervesa

>>9841332
Cut you sugar intake for a week to reset your palate

>>9841304
Mexico's GDP per capita is pretty high for a developing country, much higher than China's actually

>>9840150
I wasn't implying Mexico.is underdeveloped...Europe is the most developed continent and most people there drink macro lagers like Heineken and Carlsberg

>>9834476
>is people having brand preferences a meme?

It's the sign of being young and uninformed. Everybody does that at a certain age. I did too. It's the perfect pleb warning sign but it should go away after you have a few glasses of things that isn't pale lager.

ah, that first /sip/ after a long day of work

>>9839504
If you're not taking tasting notes it's ok.

>>9838669
Tonight's beer was a winner as well. Tastes surprisingly like a Belgian dubbel or quadrupel, given that it's a wheat beer. Very Belgian-y fig/date notes. Three winners in a row!

What happened to Founder's Pale Ale?

>>9840802
so do most plenty of other non pale ales

Just turned 21. Any personal recommendations? Going to go to the Sierra Nevada restraunt to try some of their beers at their bar.

It really riddles me why americans are fucking professionals on advertising and marketing all kinds of shit but fail horribly on creating beer like labels on their beer bottles and brands.
The most beer like brand design i know of is "Millers" that would also work here in Germany as a label. But skulls and babies eating oatmeal and shit on beer bottles is beyond my creative thinking i guess.
Some beer bottles and cans look more like energy drinks on the cheap.

>>9844954
>he thinks that isn't intentional
It's supposed to look childish and juvenile so that IPA neckbeards think ONE OF US, ONE OF US

you have to understand, in america the idea that good beer is something normal and mainstream is considered absurd. it has to look like it was made by a fat unemployed child molester in a grungy rape dungeon with d&d posters everywhere

even the slightest rumor that a good brewery is in negotiations with a corporation of any sort, the beer neckbeards turn against it and start raving about how much it totally sucks now

>>9828969
I keep a minimum 3 30 packs and half barrel on hand at all times. Hamms is my go to

>>9843355
yeah that's a good one
i think that was my first introduction into strong, dark wheat beers

>>9844382
just enjoy dude
i'm sure they will have descriptions of their beers, just try what sound appealing to you

>>9844981
I always assumed it was so that if someone was in a craft brew store they would be able to recognize the beer they wanted by the design on the can/bottle instead of having to ask around or poke around until you get lucky

>>9841332
You might just not like beer. I've found that I'm the same with wine: I just can't like it.

Can anyone recommend me a decent homebrewer kit for an absolute novice?

>>9846559
go to a brew shop, bucket or carboy is what you will want

>>9844981
lol, what are you even talking about?

>>9844954
Who cares what it looks like? What's inside is what counts

Found these today. I was expecting to find the regular Bourbon county but was surprised they still had a bottle of the coffee

i was asking about stouts here a while ago. i finally tried old rasputin. it was alright. i'm interested in trying founders breakfast stout but i can't find it. i usually go to total wine or bevmo to buy booze. are there better beer shops in norcal? price is important to me cause i'm a fuckin neet lol

>>9847217
Breakfast Stout is becoming a year round so it should be easy to find. It's expensive, it will probably be 13-14 dollars for a 4 pack.

>>9847217
it's weird you can't find the Breakfast Stout. They have it at the Total Wine I go to, though that's in Minnesota.

Drinking this right now and hating it. The spices are way too overpowering, almost medicinal. Good thing I also bought the St. Bernardus Christmas ale, which is way more balanced.

>>9847467
Also want to say I found all 14 differences because I am a MASTER.

Have any of you had Coney Island beers before?

>>9847232
It's $9.99 a 4 pack at Cost Plus World Market.

>>9847810
Also $9.99 at BevMo right now.

>>9823708
This

>>9830012
Not a big fan. Smells nice, but isnt really all that tasty

>>9843355
Tonight's was very good but not great. I expected more out of a 96/100 on Ratebeer. Malt lovers will rejoice, but kind of one-note; it's malt, malt and more malt. Still, super smooth and drinkable for an 8%. I could drink several of these real easy and get quite drunk.

>>9824521
excellent opinion

>>9848017
It's a shame you didn't like it; it's one of my favorite beers. I'm drinking one right now, in fact.

But yes, it is dangerously easy to drink, which I found out the hard way.

>Bud Light has been brewed to 3.5% ABV for the UK.

they made it worse for the UK market

>>9848244
>Tonight's was very good but not great
I liked it. I'm a malt guy and decidedly NOT a hops guy. It's just not on the same level as the beers I have drunk the past three nights, but those were all rather exceptional.

>>9848252
>3.5%
why bother

Yes, it was good but not certainly overhyped. If you can find it for a reasonable price it's worth trying but it won't blow your mind compared to a normal double IPA

What cheap beer do you drink?
For me it's Yuengling and I'm not sure I quite like it.

Laughing Dog Pecan Porter is fucking delicious and whoever thinks otherwise can suck my anus

>>9849217
Kirin, but I'm a fucking weeb. it's enjoyable.

>>9837396
Augustiner or bust
t.Germ

>>9848017
>ratebeer
there's your problem, any halfway decent or popular beer is 95%+ thanks to their stupid rating system

>tasty
>cheap
>makes you timeskip
>makes you forget or not care
>will kill you
Is alcohol man best invention?

>>9822725
Id like to see Great Lakes added to this

>>9850404
Yes. Also science just proved that beer makes you happier than other alcohol. Only absinthe has more secondary effects.

>>9851149
i'm dumb, i wanted to write:
does any of you know this beer? it's the best i've ever had, everytime i take a sip i cum

>>9822725
Good tiers. Agree with founders and bells but I am a little biased, I can walk to founders (and often do).

>>9826914
Mostly agree. But fuck Two Hearted really counts for a lot. It is fucking awesome. I always try to have some around the house.

>>9851232
Is there any common old school IPA as good as Two Hearted? I can't think of any

>>9849060
beer is the UK in general is pretty low ABV

>>9825598
I've met some girls at my uni who are into craft beer, granted they all stay away from IPAs.

>>9852090
>they all stay away from IPAs.
patrician taste

>>9834417
I drank a growler of their pils while winter camping at Jay Cooke. It hits the fucking spot for me

>>9852090
IPAs are usually only good to me if they have a malty backbone, such as Dogfish 60 and Bell's Two Hearted

>>9822725
>Blue moon in bottom tier
FUCK OFF

>>9852435
calm down babby

>>9849084
I doubt any of the top 10 beer advocate beers are anything special

I had Breakfast Stout and while it was really good, my mind wasn't blown.

>>9822725
>Pyramid
>Shit
Can confirm for pick both.
Bought a couple tall bottles, wondered why it was so cheap.
Well, I found out.
Its like someone poured 6 different high abv ipas together and called it good.

>>9823934
Deschutes and SN are around the same tier. I would put them both in decent.
Stone is solidly above both. Definitely in the same tier as lagunitas.

any of y'all ever have blue point brewery? their toasted lager is a favorite of mine

>>9852745
I bought a winter sampler from them once. Never again. Oatmeal stout tasted like a marker

>>9852745
owned by InBev

>>9852764
Yes, I live on Long Island and they sell it everywhere over here. I do like their Toasted Lager.

>>9837396
Had it, it was interesting

>>9837396
Prefer the vitus the, but great beers regardless

bump

Imo Avery is top-tier. Name one beer they make that isn't primo

>>9822725
>Sierra Nevada
>seek me out at normie gatherings
Too true. To be fair, though, their Pale Ale is one of my favorite beers. I always buy a pack whenever I want to drink beer without thinking about it too hard.

>>9854573
Normies drink Bud Light and Corona, plus it's unfair to knock a beer just because it's popular for craft standards

Just got this nectar of the gods put on tap at work recently.

>ausfag

>>9854877
for some reason i was thinking this was one of those fake craft beers that was actually a macro
but i was wrong
i think i got it mixed up with vale. it's so fucking hard to remember who owns what these days

Not alot of barrel coming trough on the nose, more on the taste alongside all those adjuncts.
Nice beer though!

>>9840953
>tfw you can walk in any supermarket and get a 6pack for less than 8 bucks

Doom Bar and Bishop's Finger are good bitters/ales. Doom bar being the lighter amber ale and Bishops being the stronger.

>>9854877
How is that a pale ale

New to the Austin, TX area, see there's a lot of local breweries. Don't have any friends with reliable opinions, which breweries should I try or outright avoid?

>>9822725
Just got these guys

>mom moving houses
>gave me a bunch of craft beer she didn't have room for
>now have a bunch of weird beer, including like 7 bottles of horchata ale
>dont even like beer
I guess it's time to make a shitload of beer bread

>>9854877
Gay bottle

>>9848017
Last night's beer was pretty damn great.

>>9857687
Tonight's beer was the biggest surprise I've had in a long time. I don't understand how this is only a 91/100 on Ratebeer. This is absolutely world-class and remarkably unique. Somehow tastes like caramel, dates and raisins despite consisting of only water, malt, hops and yeast. Lovely. This was a reasonably priced six pack at BevMo and will become a regular in my fridge. I always expected this to be Celebrator's disappointing cousin and holy shit was I wrong.

>>9824058
The 200th Anniversary Stout is worth a try if you can find it. Very well balanced, more roasty char and chocolate than a normal extra stout.
I love Draught solely for the ability to make awesome half and halfs: blue moon, a fresh IPA, or a nice lager are good mixers.

>>9857761
I wish I could get six-packs of Foreign Extra here. Love that shit. Can only find it as 3/12 of a 12 pack of mixed Guinness around here and I don't like the other 9 nearly as much.

>>9857761
>>9857769
Also, while I'm not too fond of Draught on its own, it makes a fine beer float.
One of these days I'm going to have to try a Samuel Smith's Organic Chocolate Stout float. The cocoa in that one is over the top and it could be lovely.

>>9826150
>not drinking the Guinness brewed exclusively for the Amsterdam market.

Never had it but I've heard the Guinness brewed in Africa and Bermuda are unique enough to be worth seeking out.

>>9846559
Get one of the $100 starter kits off of Northern Brewer or Midwest. You'll still need a kettle, sanitizer, bottles, caps and a recipe kit. I'm 2 1/2 years and 17 batches into homebrewing and still using the bucket and gear that came with my starter kit.

>>9847183
Am I the only one who just hates bourbon barrel anything? Bourbon tastes like shit. Why not age beer something nice like other beer barrels.

>>9824058
The 200 yr stout is so good yo

>>9857687
Founders rarely lets me down

>>9857761
200th anniversary export Stout is way better than regular Guinness. When are they going to cut production? I want to cellar a few sixers of it

>>9857826
>Why not age beer something nice like other beer barrels.
because most beer is aged in metal, so there isn't much of a supply of "other beer barrels"

Chicago guys. Pipeworks just started distribution here in Milwaukee, what should I keep my eyes open for?

>>9857826
I'm with you, if I see bourbon barrel anything related to a beer I avoid it.

Anybody fucking tired of IPAs etc? I've switched to only drinking porters and stouts and have been enjoying it

>>9856446
Shame about that album though

>>9857976
literally anything

picked these bad boys up.

>>9857826
Supposedly last year there was an uptick in Tequila Barrel aged beers but the only one I had seen was from a local brewery. (Half Moon Bay Brewery made a Tequila barrel aged Belgian Tripel that was fantastic.)

Then Deschutes ages their Abyss in different barrels for different years, these are this years variants while last Years were scotch and brandy barrel aged and the year before that were Rye Whiskey and Cognac barrel aged.

>craft beer

>>9858443
>Cucumber IPA
>Banana IPA

>>9858443
>IPA
vomit

>>9823708
Lagunita's definitely deserves to be lower.
Also the idea of Redd's being better than anything is fucking absurd. That shit is worse than Natty Lite. I prefer Olde English to it.

trying pic related tonight. (rogue hazelnut brown nectar)

it's nice. very malty. has some nutty flavor to it too. easy drinking for a darker beer with a slightly higher than average alcohol content

>>9857978
I like some IPAs (generally the maltier ones that have more flavor beyond pinecone and grapefruit) but there is definitely too much collective emphasis on IPAs in the craft beer world. I would like to see more amber lagers, blonde ales, amber ales, brown ales, balanced APAS, etc.

Sup my nig-whores I made a marijuana IPA and my bottle conditioned beer will be ready to drink on Xmas. I live in Alaska so it's legal. I put in a half ounce of fine weed along with 3/4 ounce of hops as well asaalt and boiled some wheat to give it a little structure then aged it a month then racked it 2 times. It's at 6%. I made a pink lotus wine but this ain't the general for that. Thinking about a bread toast ale or something else exotic like hensbane or a gruit ale. Here's a pic of it before racking.

>>9858890
Meant to say It had malt not asalt. Also added another half oz after the fermentation to get a good spectrum of cannabinoids

>>9839507
Yo get some Austin eastsider. I don’t care if it’s not “real.” It’s ~$9 a 6 pack at total wine and very good.

>>9858967
doesn't look like they sell it at all in northern california, or i would

>>9845045
You’re correct and the other guy is stupid.

>>9858975
Oof, I’m sorry. My strategy is to go to the cider isle and get a 6 pack I’ve never heard of before. Best of luck, friendo

>>9857514

Don't judge a book by it's cover

are any of the Ommegang beers good representations of Belgian beers? I only tried the white and didn't really like it

Witbiers vary so much in my experience, they're either really tasty or have a lot of off flavor

>>9857295
>7 bottles of horchata ale
is that the one by the bruery? because i'll be honest, i thought that was dope

>>9857978
>Anybody fucking tired of IPAs etc?
I ducked out of IPAs almost completely for about a year. NEIPAs have been gaining steam here though and I really like them.

>>9858414
let us know how those abyss aged ones are senpai

>>9859589
Oh, my bad, I didn't really look at the bottle. Looks like some kind of prerelease version of the Blue Moon one.

>>9860400
Forgot pic whoops.