/ck/ - Food & Cooking

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>>9703091
You like Hawaiian cuisine?

>>9703162
>hating on sushi while loving Nihon no ryouri
What kind of Japanese food do you like? Tamagoyaki? Karee? Tonkatsu?
Or do you mean shit like ramen?

>>9702908
I found out that not all mole has chocolate. I hate savoury chocolate dishes which is why I hated mole. I haven't tried any other types though.

>>9703162
please tell me you have nothing against grilled eel and claim you like japanese cuisine

>>9702908

speaking as a Dane, I love Norway and Northmen in general, good people!

but seriously guys wtf. Mutton and cabbage is probably the worst combo ever

Love.

>>9703650
Mole is so fucking disgusting. I hate how chefs and cooks using 'family recipes' brag about how there's 50 ingredients in it yada yada. As if that is supposed to make it taste better. Not to mention, it looks like shit.. .literally.

>>9703103
Who doesn't love macaroni salad and rice paired with any fried seafood? That's Hawaiian cuisine right?

>>9703639
I love everything Japanese food including all of those. How about some yakitori or some takoyaki. yummmmm

>>9703844
its what makes a subaru, a subaru

>>9703650
>I found out that not all mole has chocolate. I hate savoury chocolate dishes which is why I hated mole. I haven't tried any other types though.
The chocolate is barely detectable when made well. It should be such a balance of flavors that other than the chilies and their complexity, you couldn't be sure if it's nutmeats or cocoa butter in the chocolate or corn or sesame in the mole making it smooth and rich. The bitter chocolate and rich smoothness should just be some elements of the whole spice profile. I have had really good mole over the years in regional travel, and it is a texture thing most of all, with the other 30 ingredients not really chocolatey.

Keep trying it, I'd say and not at restaurants using something from a can. Of course that is going to skimp on the really expensive good things. Puree some pepitas in there!

>>9702908
Chicken mole is actually something I enjoy a lot, but on the topic of that, menudo.

>>9704124
Protip. Enjoy some nice menudo the morning after a night of heavy drinking.

Side of 2 authentic Mexican tacos optional.... your choice of meat.

That's how I roll essay.

>>9702908
>When you were raised on Filipino food but grew up as an American
Thanks mom and dad

>>9704159
I don't drink. Also, why do people eat the garbage part of the animal?

Is mole not supposed to taste like much? I've only had it twice but it mostly just had a faint taste of chilies

>>9704194
Because if cooked properly they can be awesome. The chef needs to have talent and know what they are doing with the cut though (brisket or oxtails are great examples of a usually shitty cuts to an amateur that are excellent and delicious if in the right hands)

lamb chop.

>>9703665
Are the black things supposed to look like eyes?
Looks like a bowl full of frogs to me.

>>9705877
>poor sear
>ramekin under half full
>purge leaking out from chop probably causing the 4 or 5 french fries to get soggy
>a couple trees of greens instead of being prepared in some way
I'd hate lamb too if I were subjected to that shit. It looks like a bunch of terrible food on some expensive tableware.

>>9703650
>>9703921
begone tastelets

>>9705886
I wish you a happy meal.

>>9702908
Mole is delicious though. Best thing my mom makes too. I love drowning my rice in the mole sauce.

>>9704026
So you love all the fermented shit too like natto and shiokara? Or dipping sukiyaki in raw eggs? They mix grated yamaimo into every other dish and love okra. The national food texture of Japan is slimey, yet it's sushi you have a problem with. Goddamn weebs knowing only the 3 food shown in anime with no idea what they eat in real life.

>>9702908
Wrong pollo con mole y arroz es delicia

Inari sushi (Inari_zushi). Another name, Oinarisan.

>>9706069
I haven't had those but I wouldn't knock them til I tried them.

>>9706085
no

>take overcooked flat noodle
>layer with under-seasoned meat
>add cheese to make it taste extra bland
>overcook and burn in the oven
>cut into squares that fall apart anyway
>serve

>>9707743
what is wrong with you

>>9707743
I've had some pretty disgusting ones, but a well made chili relleno is hard to beat

>>9707120
>overcook your noodles
>layer with meat you can season yourself
>add shitty cheese
>overcook
>used way too much sauce, didn't let it rest after cooking, or used greasy meat and cheese
Sounds like all of this is your fault.

>>9707120
>i don't know how to cook lasagne and am incapable of learning because my mind is shut tighter than the Ft. Knox gold vault.
>wtf, italian food sucks!

>>9703650
>>9704085
>>9703921
"Mole" is an entire genre of dishes. Think "curry", it's pretty much the same idea. The one most Americans are familiar with which is dark brown and uses chocolate is called mole poblano.

>>9706154
Those taste so good wtf!

>>9708391
i know. i've never had a good mole in my life.

>>9708391
The one most americans are familiar with is bland garbage and comes out of a goddamm jar from the "ethnic" aisle next to the La Choy soy sauce

If your mexican restaurant doesn't have a pudgy abuelita grinding the chiles and nuts and spices herself out back, don't touch the mole. You know how 98% of white restaurants suck? Well, 98% of "mexican" restaurants suck too.

Have some standards, people. Or if you don't live anywhere with options, make it yourself.

>>9708775
Bullshit. Well, maybe in your experience if you're in Ohio or something, but then don't speak for the rest of us. Dona maria is OK as a base if you're in a hurry or too drunk to cook down and emulsify, but no one I have ever known has ever used that stuff straight.

>>9708775
This. Literally every mexican restaurant in my town serves the exact same dishes, down to the fucking pico de Gallo.
I mean, it's delicious. But its not mexican food, it's mexican-themed food.

>>9708785
>no one I know has used it straight

You aren't supposed to.

>>9708786
>muh authentic Mexico
You all are getting awfully persnickety down there now, aren't you? Yeah, most of the stuff here is TexMex or CaliMex, and it annoys those of us who are being inundated by it as well. But if you knew anything about what goes under the umbrella of Mexican food here, it's a regional thing with a lot of differences. So shut the fuck up until you learn something.

>>9708785
No, even in "civilied" places, corners are usually cut. It may not be that specific brand but corners are cut. Not unless it's a place known as a mole place. A random "mexican spot" is going to suck. Doesn't matter how many mexicans you have living around there. It's like going to a combination sushi/yakitori/hibachi/pad thai joint, just forget about the sushi.

Doña Maria is never ok.

The esteem and mystique that mole gets is because it's complicated and labor intensive. Mole poblano for instance requires some three dozen ingredients most of which are grouped together in small (1 to 3 items at a time) batches and cooked/processed/prepped differently. The batches start to converge into larger and larger batches over a cooking process that takes approximately a day.

>>9708800
I realize that, but I thought that was the implication from the picture and the talk about blandness. How can anyone make a bland mole?

>>9708813
>How can anyone make a bland mole?
Easy, you manufacture it in a big factory using a few simple garbage-tier ingredients.

>>9708807
>never OK
Yeah, you're a hipster cunt. Food does not always have to be 100% from scratch, especially if you're expecting a cheap as fuck meal at a hole in the wall place. If you are paying high dollar for cheap ass Mexican food, that's your fault.

So nobody on ck has tastebuds?

>>9708825
Implying that isn't primarily what most people use in scratch made mole base to begin with?

>>9708828
>food doesn't have to be good when you lower your standards and scrape the bottom of the barrel
Yeah no, fuck you.

Of course not all food has to be from scratch, but if you're going for cheap and simple, then eat something fitting, i.e. not a dish renowned for its complexity.

>If you are paying high dollar for cheap ass Mexican food, that's your fault.
The most I've paid for Mexican was at an Enrique Olvera joint (came to $120-some a head), but the mole place I normally go to charges about $15 for a mole plate, which I consider a bargain

Honestly, you sound like an ignorant shithead who thinks the only foods that should involve good ingredients and careful preparation are European and maybe Japanese

>>9708833
>scratch made
Yeah, and most places serving scratch made beef wellington just roll some pre-cooked hamburger patties in tubs of batter and deep fry it

Never change, /ck/

>>9708836
Holy fuck you dumb piece of shit. Complexity does not mean expensive and labored over for days at all fucking times. Mole is meant to be a cheap food to begin with, as most Mexican food is. Originally it was cooked for a very very long time because they used it like stocks used to be used. Stale bread went into it, like some crackers, some peanuts, some sesame seeds (though I don't know what they actually used before that) maybe some nice chocolate if they had it, and some chiles. We're talking native food. It's like stew that's been ground down. The complexities come from the use of chocolates and chiles in particular regions that can be difficult to emulate if you're in a different region. Using a base and building off that does not reduce the complexity referred to because it is something you are building off of, not using as the primary flavor. You sound like a hipster piece of shit looking to elevate things way beyond what they are and who hates everything just because it's made by
>le big ebil company
Fuck you and everything you stand for.

>>9703665
looks bretty good desu

>>9708941
You're really quite the specimen aren't you? I never said anything about big evil companies, and "good ingredients" means just that. Nothing more, nothing less. "Originally" it was? Kind of like "originally" people ate good bread, made at home or from a neighborhood bakery, and now they eat fucking wonder bread/bimbo bread? Fuck differentiating between freshly baked good bread and garbage out of a plastic bag, that's for the antifa hipster liberals, yes?

You're not worth the captchas at this point, arguing why some people actually give a shit what they eat is just more of the same. Have fun being a retard on the internet, maybe someone else will give you some (You)s

>there are babby faggots who hate mole
LMAOING@URLYFE

>>9705886

you want a full fucking ramekin? Use what you get then ask for more. Every goddamn ramekin that hits dish is almost untouched. Fuck you if I refilling my shit every half hour

>>9708785

fuck you ohio has some good mexican, lotta migrant workers set up shop in small towns when they realize what a goldmine they are we're desperate for anything that's not cheap italian

>>9702908
anything "jerk" seasoned. there isnt enough lime to cover whatever shit seasoning you through on that jamal

>>9704174
Did you live in Hawaii? I know a girl like this, she used to live in Hawaii and had a ton of flip friends, now she lives in Arizona and still has a ton of flip friends there too. They are like livestock, they herd up.

>>9709349
Should be based around scotch bonnet, scallion, allspice and thyme, Steve.

>>9706154
What's there to hate?

>>9707998
>>9708236
Why would I cook something I've hated since childhood? Lol. This is literally my experience every time I've had it, even at ~Italian restaurants~
Sorry lasaginas.

>>9709377
I do not like Sea Squirt.

On the flip side, green mole is absolutely delicious and I am pretty sure anyone who tried it would love it.

>>9709351
Pretty much all the asians and pacific islanders do that, japs to a somewhat lesser extent.

I hate kidney beans and cooked tomatoes

>>9703665
It's good though. But it usually looks like shit when people make it, and it smells. I wouldn't eat it more than two or three times a year though.

>>9703844
Fuck your smoked eel nigga

That shit is the worst to clean up

>>9707967
>>9707995
Not him but I agree

the peppers are great as part of a dish, when shredded or otherwise. Rellenos just kind of stick one in there and doesn't let the taste or texture shine

>>9703091
you disgust me you dirty haole

>>9710562
I hope that you can live without hating anything.
And I pray that the people of your country can live peacefully and happily.

>>9704194
It's entirely arbitrary to consider some parts of the animal "garbage parts", except maybe for the large intestine.

Hamburger steak.

>>9707120
i'm betting you used ricotta instead of bechamel and parmiggiano

>>9702908
Never had mole but this thread is making me want to try it.

>>9703665
Surprisingly much good meat on a head, though.
You do eat sylte, right? It's in season too.

Is it the cabbage that makes it bad? I don't suppose I ever had that particular combination but cabbage seems like a pretty inoffensive side that can be made to work with most meats.

>>9705877
That's crazy talk. If you don't like lamb chops it must be because you only had poorly prepared ones. I can see why not everybody likes mutton, but lamb?

>>9709921
Because you might like it now. I grew up thinking liver and porkchops were both dry and tough and terrible. It was only years after I moved out of my parents' house I tried cooking either by myself and now I love both.
Your taste changes with time and from the way you describe the lasagne it was clearly not made as well as it could have been.
No skin off my nose if you never eat it again but you're most likely cheating yourself out of some nice food.
Hell, I never even tried kidney until I was in my thirties because my parents always told me it's nasty and tastes like a toilet. It's not and it doesn't.

>>9711199
You hate a beef patty?

>>9711199
Its hamburg steak