/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>tfw anniversary of best friends death is coming up
>still miss him like crazy and think about him weekly
>still feels like it was just last month he was here

I was closer to him then my own brothers, We were best friends since we were 6yo.


Only part of my life I enjoyed was when we were 18-24, Best times of my life.

I don't sweat at night because I run my thermostat down to 50 degrees and sleep in the nude.

>>9443327
>summer ends
>goes from so hot that sheet is too much to needing a quilt and heavy blanket over night

>>9443333
Checked. That was impressive. I live on the wrong side of houston and run my shit low. Winter here is very comfortable.

Sober and hate it. My life would be considered "good" by the majorities' standard, but I just want to get drunk.

>>9443207
I'm sorry, Anon. I wish you the best, this glass is for you and your friend. We're gonna make it friend, we have to. Soldier on, comrade.

>>9443483
Seconded.

>>9443207
Sorry /b/rother.

>>9443174
I'm getting real tired of the diarrhoea. I never got this in the past but lately 1 or 2 days after I wake up with stomach pains and have to sit on the toilet and pretty much just shit out poo water until I'm empty or the stomach ache is gone.

started the new "no weeknight drinking" routine a couple weeks ago. been sticking to it sun-weds, cheap thursday pints seem to drag me in though. and of course binging friday and saturday.
feels like i'm not really adressing the problem, just putting it off.

Cold sweats suck so bad. You can get comfortable in bed. Goes from cold to hot. Getting really tired of withdrawals.. This crap is fucking up my life.

i bought a 6 pack of nice beer at the store a block away and managed to drop it on the way back and break 2 bottles while completely sober
what a dickhead

>>9443174
First full day of not drinking in a while. I'm tempted but I'm trying to stop drinking so much. I don't want to quit completely but I feel like I need to cut back.

>>9443509
I used to use this level as my stopping point. I'd take a day or 2 off when that happened and be fine again for 2 weeks or so. But I just powered through and dealt with the diarrhea for the last few weeks. Now I've suddenly transitioned to crazy constipation for the last week. I wish the diarrhea would come back...

>>9443509
Eat before going to sleep if youre drinking a shit ton of liquor.

>>9443549
Silver lining is you arent getting arrested or losing jobs and relationships.

>ventured out today and paid $650 worth of utilities (last month's and this month's bill two weeks early)
>felt so accomplished that I came home and got drunk and then slept until 10:00pm
>decent sleep but still insane dreams and lots of sweating
>I'm up now, waiting for my gf to fall asleep so I can sneak out and go buy some fast food
>it's gonna be a comfy night mah bois

>>9443848
I feel like less of a giant piece of shit than usual today.
Anyone else getting hunkered down with their favorite booze/ don't feel like ending it all in the current moment?

>got so drink at my desk job that I put my head down and fell asleep for 2 hours
>Boss asks me if I'm ok and if I needed a nap as I woke up around quitting time
>Finished off the rest of the 750ml over some shitty dinner, managed my way home
>Halfway passes out on couch, slump over to bedroom and pull a bottle from my.hampr that is less empty than I remember
>Make another drink and plump down in my bed to post this
>Not sure I'll take a sip but at least the ice will leave me a cold drink in the morning
Who else is trying to break the cycle here?

Is it inappropriate to ask for recommendations here?

>>9444158
what are you looking for, friend?

>>9444215
Cocaine

>>9444215
I'm actually just wondering what people here enjoy for a cheap dark rum.

>>9443174
yea my bed stinks.

>>9444243
10yr heavy drinker here. look up peripheral neuropathy.
i feel nothing but pain below my knees, can barely walk and its starting to happen to my hands. ive been a musician for 20yrs but not anymore. the only thing i lived for is gone

there is no fixing this. im like a 35yr old in a 75yr old body. noone talks about or told me about this. its not just numbness but spasms and it feels like someone is scraping the meat off my bones with a spoon.

>>9443848
1:50, got back home with a shit lot of Taco Bell. About to finally get drunk as fuck and mack on down while I watch some Netflix.
Sometimes these moments make the pure misery of what this life does to you almost worth it.

>>9444239
Gosling's

>>9444316
cool dude! how much, what poision, how long, and did you stop?

How long do you need to abstain to get to the point where you're not tempted to buy booze and don't spend hours internally debating with yourself?

>shit degree
>can't get a full time job
>have to clean toilets two days a week
>make just enough money not to be homeless
>only eat cheap rice and beans and drink vodka and piss beer
I want to get out of this nightmare

>>9444394
The rest of your life. Cheers!

>>9444417

>>9444394
Not even kidding here, but one day I just told myself how disgusting alcohol is after drinking daily for years. Now I get that gag feeling and nausea when thinking about drinking. I haven't craved it since then and have been sober 2 years.

>>9444442
But many relatively low alcoholic drinks are delicious, as well as higher end craft liquors.

Maybe if you were just drinking kharkov and bud light, then the experience can be conveyed a little easier.

2:40 am. woke up dehydrated and hungover. time for le hair of the dog

>>9444449
Nah, I have a well paying job so I would have aged scotch and quality vodka mainly. I know it sounds like a meme but telling myself that alcohol is disgusting somehow worked. Plus eating more than just a light snack every day helped. No more drinking 1700 calories in alcohol every day.

the greatest YouTuber of all time discusses quitting drinking

https://youtu.be/xRB1kUdCyZQ

attached: a pic of a lake just inland of lake Michigan

>>9444442
I swear I tell myself this every time I wake up after a night of binge drinking but I soon forget about it after a few hours and then by late afternoon I'm already craving again.

Did you do anything different to help you gain this mindset? Did you have a bad experience with alcohol?

>>9444461
>Plus eating more than just a light snack every day helped. No more drinking 1700 calories in alcohol every day.

This really is a self-conscious burden. Still doesn't mean that a good trappist ale can perk my taste buds and satiate my mind. Wish I would have the strength to do what you have done, however. But I don't think the same method could work for me.

>>9444480
watch this vid.
>>9444471
explains it pretty well

>>9444480
I really can't explain it. I just woke up very hungover one day, stared at the empty vodka bottle next to my bed and convinced my body how disgusting it is. I picture rubbing alcohol now when I picture the taste of alcohol and it makes me gag

>>9444485
>watch this vid

Just finished it. And I'm waiting for the day when I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired but it just doesn't seem to be coming. As I said, even when I feel like absolute shit it soon dissipates and I'm craving again. Though I guess as he said you've got to want to quit. Maybe I don't want it badly enough. Or I'm strong enough to put my foot down and just quit.

>>9444486
I realised making toast today that there are 7 empty Wild Turkey bottles in my kitchen and I can't remember if it was 1 or 2 weeks when I took out the recycling. I felt ashamed but not repulsed. I really want to feel physically repulsed by alcohol.

Tonight is the first night in like 50 days where I haven't gotten drunk off my ass.

>>9444512
i drink a liter of liquor a night and always will.

the worst i do is drunk text my friends


i think the real reason most people stop drinking is drunk driving/dangerous public behavior

notice in the vid he talks a lot about drunk driving behavior. we all know hangovers are a meme if you have a flask.

>>9444520
I don't have any friends anymore to text. I drink drive occasionally but it's usually at like 3am to get McDonald's or down the road for more booze.

No significant risk of embarrassment or an accident. I don't go out so no dangerous activity either. I just drink alone and shitpost for hours on end. I think the issue for me is it stops me taking significant steps to improve my life. I'm not working at the moment and whilst I've got some money it won't be around forever. I don't want to sit around for a year doing nothing other than drinking and shitposting and realise I've run out of money, need to get another job, have done nothing to improve my situation and am stuck with nothing and nowhere in life.

>>9444559
if you're not at risk of getting into an accident, you're not drunk.

idk about direction/motivation problems. I'm a rich neet desu so yeah.

>>9444565
>if you're not at risk of getting into an accident, you're not drunk.

This sounds strange but I'm supremely confident in my driving skills when I'm drink driving. It can be after a litre of Turkey yet I've always made it through unscathed and no DUIs. The risk is always there though.

>>9444571
how? where do you live?

>>9444581
Australia.

I live in quiet suburban area, have a small strip of stores nearby so never need to drive far and also get lucky plenty too. Just recently I told myself not to buy anymore after finishing off a bottle early Sunday afternoon. The next morning on the way to work at a quiet roundabout they had police set up doing breath tests at every entrance of the roundabout. If I had bought more that finishing what I had that afternoon I would have drank into the early hours and almost certainly blown.

>>9444587
fair enough. i live in the mountains in northern Georgia so I'd be dead if I drove drunk.

I've heard Aussie cops are assholes but cops here sit a freeway exits waiting for people who disobey exit turnoff speed limits.

Top Gear was right to laugh at us

>>9443207
Looks like a fag desu senpai

>>9444239
Kraken for 20.99 half gallon

>>9444623
kys asshole

Stop drinking. How will your kidney handle the estrogen pills with all that alcohol?

>>9443207
>Detroit

He's in a better place now.

its 430 am and i cant get back to sleep. im making a drink. hold me /ck/

>>9444676
https://youtu.be/EqWRaAF6_WY

I've made it to 7:30pm without drinking. Might as well just keep going, right?

>>9443174
hey guys need some advice
>went to one of best friends weddings a few weeks ago
>was groomsman
>had a great night all together
>after ceremony was hanging at bar with friends
>grooms sister that I've known for as long as I can remember comes up and we start talking
>after about 10-15 minutes she tells me she's always had a crush on me
>she is hot as fuck
>at this point I am a bit dumbfounded
>i tell her "you are really killing me right now.. a huge part of my wants to make out with you immediately.. but another huge part of me doesn't know the etiquette for making out with the grooms sister on the day of his wedding"
>i flirt with her for another hour or so and finally decide fuck it, lets do this
>as we begin to go to my room the dad sees what's happening and shuts it down immediately
>I don't have her number and haven't talked to her since and that was 2 weeks ago
>just been drinking and thinking about what to do

I'm 28. She's 25. Really, REALLY fucking hot and comes from great genetics. She doesn't live too far from me... (sort of.. 6 hour drive). She is wife material but the only way I could get ahold of her is messaging through facebook and I have a fake account so idk if that would be weird..

plz halp.. I want a waifu so I can stop drinking by myself.. (and stop drinking altogether)..

>>9444788
Get her info from your friend you dumb fuck

Sweating bullets, shitting bricks.

>>9444803
My friend, as in, her brother?
>hey bro, what's your sisters number? I want to fuck her

>>9443509
Try a banana and black beer.

>>9444809
Why not come up with a plausible excuse?

>Your sister was talking about some restaurant at your wedding a few weeks ago, can you ask her what the name was for me or text me her number?

>>9444813
That might work. I'm just leaning towards him actually asking her about the fake restaurants name that we never discussed instead of actually texting me her number. If I'm being too annoying, feel free to call me a faggot.

>>9444396
Why can't you get an admin or sales job?
You will find out the differences between the shit ones and the good ones.
Are you too old to go in for a trade.
Why not search for graduate jobs, would get you a comfy middle management job.
Or just fuck off to SEA as a ELT, teaching kids abc's

>>9444815
That's simply an example. Ask a question that in the event he does ask her she just tells him and he'll text you the answer.

Then you ask a follow up question about that restaurant/band/whatever and he will just text you her number because at that point he will be irritated at being your messenger boy.

>>9444827
Okay. I will brainstorm on what to ask initially. Thank you for your thoughts

>>9444809
Yeah, tell him you found out she's crushing on you and the feeling is mutual. If he's a bad friend then get a real fucking Facebook goy and message her

>>9444809
Do you live in medieval times, or in a Muslim country, where brothers have to protect their sister's virginity at all cost?
Because if both of you are adults and can make informed decision of texting each-other, unless her brother is an asshole, he shouldn't object.

>30 ausbucks for 5L of beer at Aldi tomorrow

ACH DU LIEBER AUGUSTIN

>>9444902
Isn't that like $3 per pint? I'm paying 80p/pint for 7.2%

>>9444884
>tell him you found out she's crushing on you and the feeling is mutual
I will do this. thank you

>>9444895
>Do you live in medieval times, or in a Muslim country, where brothers have to protect their sister's virginity at all cost?
No I don't man.. thank you for making me realize I'm being silly. Like I said I've just never been in this situation which is why I posted in the first place.

Bills all paid/covered for the month. Just had my seventh shower in 13 months. New bedding, fresh clothes, 2oz of tobacco, loads of booze, loads of decent food for me to ignore, no obligations for a while, piss barrel empty, water jug full and 10 lorazepam for the WD. This is why I haven't yet killed myself, alcoholism isn't 100% bad.

>>9444980
I've been sober for a month but I'm starting to think that maybe alcoholism wasn't so bad. at least I had sort of an identity as well as a goal each day - the consumption of alcohol and dealing with withdrawals. now I'm just really fkin bored

>>9444649
That's the news paper you dumb fuck, It says NOVI. Can you read?

Novi is a wealthy Detroit suburb.


Also FUCK YOU

>>9445135
Calm down. Have another drink.

>>9444623
He had more purpose and value on this earth then you, Who cares if someone is straight or gay.

An no, He wasn't gay. Fuckin prick

>>9444980
>>9444980
same except for the showering. that's disgusting, negroid.

>>9444391
4ltrs a day, almost. 10yrs. was fun in my 20s when i had friends. now im just a hate filled sack of meat who just wants to be left alone but can only afford share housing so i barely even cook to not have to interact with people.

anyone get really bloated feeling from heart burn?

I took 3 zantac 150's already today and still have heartburn/acid reflux

>>9445377

I eat very little and chew Tums like they're candy. If I drink harder I just end up puking every day.

>>9445377
Are you drinking carbonated stuff? Or high acidity stuff like cider? They're potent heartburn fuel

>>9445385

I'm not that guy, but I pH balance my home made booze to neutral or alkaline after I distill it. It still ruins my stomach.

>>9445385
Just vodka and gatorade.


Rarely smoke anything, Maybe 2 cigs and 2 joints a week.

Pic related is smirnoffs GF

>>9445590
How does someone who drinks that much form a relationship with anyone?
What's wrong with her that she stands back and watches a man poison himself like that?
Oh did he get sober?

>>9445590
nice cutting scars

>>9445602
By also drinking I'd imagine, I bet pornstars aren't sober.

>>9445604
Still would though.

>>9445615
Smirnoffbro is dating a porn performer?

i fell of the wagon again and have been drunk for three days after 16 days of not drinking

>>9445639
Bummer, you pretty much got over the hump? What happened to cause you to fall off?

>>9445646
i thought it would be fun to drink because being sober is really boring

>>9445649
>being sober is really boring

It really is. The boredom is the thing that always pushes me back. The sad thing is when I'm drunk I do the exact same shit I so sober, it's just the being drunk makes it tolerable.
I really need some hobbies, passions or interests.

I'm so fucking boring.

>>9445629
Board is sfw, dude. I'd delete before you're banned, if I were you.
I'm keeping a low profile atm because I'm coming off so much shit, and attempting to taper vodka at the same time. I'm still aching to be sober. As such my brain is foggy af, I'm barely sleeping and I feel like death even when drunk.
I've never met Misha, she's not my girlfriend. I just know her from /b/ and similar places since we spoke online about a decade ago. Every now and again I stumble across her online, and mail her to sexually harass her.
She is nice though. With a distinct hint of dangerous. One day I'll convince her to meet me for dinner, and lace her chateauneuf du pape with rohypnol.

>>9445590
>cutting scars


My type of grill

>>9445667
same desu

lifting is the only thing that manages to keep me sober for a while, too bad you can't lift 24 hours a day

>>9445671
I'm glad you're not actually her BF if you'd threaten to rape the poor girl.

>>9445671
That's really dark.

11:30 am isn't too early for rum is it?

>>9445745
If it's Capt, throw it in le trash. If it's real rum, drink up lad.

>>9445783
it's Bacardi. had a liter of whiskey last night. i need to drink my way to sunset.

Jesus Christ I can't stand it. 1 year of my driving ban served, 2 to go.
I can get 9 months cut off my sentence if I do one of these DUI rehab class things. Anyone have experience of them? Are they as ineffectual and tedious as I imagine them to be?
If not, I'm tearing the plates off a superbike and just accelerating hard if I see cops. Worked like a charm before I got the license I keep losing.

>>9445834
As far as I know, you don't need a license for a moped. Of course, they're like fucking a fat girl, which is why every grown man you see riding one has a DUI, but it beats walking.

>>9445857
You need a license for everything in the uk. There's even talk of one day needing a license to ride a bike (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41306738)), and (talk of) guidelines being introduced regarding proper walking position in cities, to allow for those in a rush to be granted a clear path to speedwalk.

>>9445834
get a bicycle and work on your fitness. otherwise, respect the law. driving is a privilege not a right.

been laid off for a month and had been living on savings but they're drying up now.

Applying for unemployment sucks so bad.

>>9445857
Nah you do need at least a provisional license and a compulsory basic motorcycle training cert to ride anything up to 125cc, and a full bike license to ride anything bigger than that.
Cops can't catch fast bikes though, not unless they get a helicopter out. I've had 14 bikes in my lifetime, everything from a 49cc Honda Melody, to a modded CBR900RR. Good luck catching up with one of those in a 1.8 diesel Astra or a 1 tonne police bike.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=W1E5JBFTbBE
Really tempted, but I'd go straight to prison if I did get caught. So still looking into the DUI course thing I've been offered.

>>9445874
mental. come to America. I'm from the communist shithole we call New York but being in the midwest this weekend was a revelation. speed limit was 75 with police presence. the whole highway way going 90+ no fucks given

My kidneys are getting sore again. Gotta take a break.

Im fresh out of kratom, T3's, or anything else. What can I do?

>>9445904
blaze it

https://youtu.be/5RisBAkC0x8

>>9443174
>tfw buy a very expensive bottle of absinthe for my birthday, looking forward to it all night
>unwrap the mouth, wax is brittle
>that's weird but I'll continue on
>go to uncork it and the cork crumbles
>try screw and hammer method but nothing works

At least the place said I could exchange it. Isn't this their fault for storing it improperly or something?

>>9445938
Humidity or fluctuations in temperature, I'd guess.
Just get it replaced dude. It's bound to be corked if the cork is that rekt.

>>9445991
Yeah I'm sure the contents are fucked. Worried that the rest of the bottles they have on hand are the same way.

Just a bummer because it was my birthday booze.

>>9445938
How can you not get a cork out at all? Shove a screwdriver into it and run your alcohol through a strainer if the cork breaks in it, I've had to do this with that god awful yellowtail shit.

>>9446017
I could certainly have just crumbled the cork entirely with the screw/hammer method and used a coffee filter for the remains, but when I spent over 100 bucks on a bottle I want to not have corked, strained contents.

hammered at 1 pm.

>>9445377
Peppermint oil or eating a handful of Altoids helps.

>>9445393
Ethanol is a base. Unless the water you made it with is quite acidic, your ethanol water soluton wil be alkaline naturally. Adding more base to an already alkaline solution will have the same effect on your stomach as drinking acidic beverages.

Also, ethanol is a poison. Even if you don;t consume enough at once to kill you at any given point, it has a cumulative effect on your system unless you give it a break.

Drink less, smoke more dope and pretty soon your stomach will tolerate booze better. Though if you're drinking enough that it fucks with your GI tract, you probably shoudl give up drinking altogether, Pretty sure you have an addiction issue.

>>9444480
Not the original anon, but I gained the same mindset as well.
It happened when I started smoking weed again. It made me look at my life from an objective point of view. Made me overthink and over-analyze everything about myself and my life and brought up some uncomfortable realizations.
I've read about studies that LSD has also helped people kick the habit. Well weed is also a psychedelic, even if it's more mild so I think I must have had the same result.

>>9446372
LSD gives me outstanding clarity and makes me almost cringe at how trivial my (when sober, emotionally insurmountable) problems are in fact. It lifts me out of my 'rut' and stops me drinking for days. Unfortunately pshychedelics are not the kind of drug you'd be likely to want to use often, so the inclination to drink soon comes back. LSD combined with some kind of pro therapy though? That if anything would stop me from drinking.
If I've got weed I feel a not wholly dissimilar sensation, but it's not nearly as conducive to sobriety; more likely you'll just become psychologically addicted to weed, and if it's illegal to grow where you live, that shit will ruin your finances.
It's so befuddlingly, staggeringly ignorant and/or cruel that these tools can't be used even when prescribed by a medical doctor for those who are desperate/dying, that I can only conclude that those who are in favour of the ridiculous, long-failed war(t) on drugs are either profiting from their illegality, or are simply evil, nasty people.

>get paid
>spend my entire paycheck that night on drink
>blacked out by 10pm
>woke up the next morning covered in vomit
>with a bill for a taxi cleaning
>and a fat chick in my bed
>in my parents house
>who I woke up at 4am arguing with the dog

not gonna live this one down for a while.
they took my key off me.

>>9446539
What did that mutt say to you?

>>9446627
"woof."
The bastard.

>>9445649
That's anhedonia. You have to wait a longer time than 16 days before being able to enjoy hobbies.

>>9445629
Nice, but /ck/ is a SFW blue board. Delete before you get banned.

>>9445671
Glad to hear from you. Good on you to try to taper. Even if you don't reach sobriety, drinking less can only be good.
And, considering she's escorting, you won't need to drug her to fuck her.
She's lurking, she posted she'd meet you in a public place before accepting a dinner invitation. Try not to scare her off, she sounds like a nice girl.

Naltrexone.

Low dose naltrexone will curb your desire to drink. Anyone wanting to quit booze should ask a physician.

been drinking for 24 hrs apart from a 2 hr nap. just took a spectacular shit

>>9446428
pyschs also lose potency dramatically. I thought I could take the same dose of L spaced over two weeks, and it was significantly weaker. Waited 2 months, and it was back on par (all 3 times from the same sheet). So you can't really take it regularly for that reason, among others.

>>9446819
i waited a month before and it was hell

i'm really drunk now, maybe tomorrow i stop

>>9447079
>maybe tomorrow i stop

Even, spend $8 on gas.
Odd, spend it on booze.

>>9447110
Fuck.

>>9447079
>maybe tomorrow i stop
PAWS can last several years. Brainfog is first to go after a month or two, anhedonia unfortunately last a fucking long time.

>>9447132
maybe tomorrow i don't stop

>>9445590
He could do better

17 days clean. Did a 30 days earlier this year and then another 30 a few months later.

Feels like I'm slowly learning to become a normie when it comes to drinking.

>>9443174
It must suck to be alcoholic, I'm a coke and whiskey twice a week kind a guy.

well its 410, time to start getting hammered.

about to head to the food bank and apply to jobs. my finances are such a fucking mess.

>>9444571
Hey, anon. I'm posting to give you some advice. Never be overconfident in your drunk driving abilities. I made the mistake, delivered pizzas blacked or browned out for two years for 35-40 hours a week, averaging 20 deliveries a day, and never got a dui. Then, one night after work, I picked up some food and was on the way to my gfs house. Her step dad (who hates me) was still at home and she told me to park a few blocks away and wait a bit until he left. I fell asleep in the car waiting, and woke up to a cop knocking on my window. Blew a .291, kek. 11,000 dollars later, I can say that it completely wrecked my life for about 2 years. Not worth it. If you drive drunk, you are asking for trouble. Most people with dui's have done it 500-1000 times before getting caught the first time. After getting a first, it's infinitely easier to get a 2nd, which is twice as bad.. or a felony with a 3rd

>>9444649
Kek

found an 8.2% soldier left over from last night. cheers

>>9447259
Good luck man, being an alck is way easier with a full time job, and it keeps you mostly sober during the day.

How often and how much do you need to drink for it to probably be considered a "problem"?

>>9447445
binge a couple times a week. its not really about the amount its about the addiction to the act.

>>9447467
>binge a couple times a week
I have about 10 drinks a day on average, does that count

>>9444623

Mel, for fucks sake, how do you plan to get back to filmmaking if you won't stop being rude

>>9447445
You have a problem when you experience your drinking behaviour as problematic. There is no magical number of drinks.

>>9447538
I'm not sure that I would agree with this. A lot of alcoholics associate with other alcoholics and destructive behavior gets normalized with everyone living in denial. Same deal with a lot of addiction situations. You associate with normal people outside of the community and they seem all weird and "judgmental" and you write it off as "well that group of people is just uptight, my group is the normal ones"

>actually had an appointment with counsellor, said she'd phone me in a few days
>have phone call and arrange a meeting
>wake up after another endless cycle of drinking not knowing what day it is
>shit ton of missed calls on phone
>counsellor doesn't even want to meet me because she doesn't believe I want too change
>was too wasted and got the dates mixed up when talking to her
>go back to shop and talk to the qt that works there buying my daily vodka.
>back to drink sleep, drink sleep.
>was my birthday the other day. Forgot how old I was. Turns out I'm 25. Fuck

>>9447445
There is no absolute number.
It's a problem when it's a problem for you.
A good test is to stop for a month, see if you have psychological or physical withdrawals. (Don't go cold turkey if you're a daily drinker, but do taper off.)

>>9447500
Oh, well, it was about time you asked yourself this question. That's a lot (compared to normie population, of course that's not a lot for /alc/)
Main problem at this point is that your tolerance is slowly increasing, meaning you'll drink more and more without realising it. And will have to drink sooner to stop withdrawals.
It's a slippery slope, it gets steeper and steeper, and it goes really fucking deep. You're at a point where you're sliding if you don't take great care not to (and you don't have the habit of moderating I imagine), and it only gets worse.

>>9447566
There are a lot of things I consider great that normal people would not agree on and vice versa and I think most of them live shitty lives, so I wouldn't take their general set of opinions as a benchmark.

I don't think I even necessarily agree to that notion of denial in general. It's not like opinions are facts. People often tend to find other people in denial until they conform to their own opinion, which they consider true. You can be in denial about facts I guess, but a problem isn't a fact, it's just a value judgement about the undesirability of a situation.

Even self-destruction isn't inherently problematic. It only becomes so when you disapprove of it.

>>9447586
Some counsellors give appointments very early to see if their patient are motivated to stop.
Coincidently, that's how you know a counsellor doesn't understand alcoholism or addiction.
>Lol, just stop drinking, you have no balls fagget
is not therapy.

I forgot my birthday a few times too. I stopped counting at 30.

>>9447693
I think only the true addicts will ever only understand. Sometimes the people who try to help just don't understand and make things worse. My sister stole my bank card once knowing I only pay by card. I ended up having a seizure and literally had to walk to the bank which is miles away going through withdrawals. She didn't understand I could have died.

>>9443549
I just started doing kinda the opposite. Quit drinking on the weekends and only go out M-Th. Friday nights are always a total shitshow anyway and full of weekend warrior types who don't know how to handle their liquor and end up getting into fights or just being a drunk asshole in the bar.

So I go to the same 7-11 every afternoon to buy me a six pack of Heineken after work and it's the same gril checking me out and she's a total qt. I never considered myself an alcoholic but I'm here to ask, am I an alcoholic? Would a female cashier view me as an alcoholic for buying a heini sixer every day? I think she's into me but after reading some alcohol stories here I don't know.

>>9447587
>you'll drink more and more without realising it
>'re at a point where you're sliding if you don't take great care not to (and you don't have the habit of moderating I imagine), and it only gets worse.
I've been drinking like this for pretty much a decade though.

>>9447833
>Heineken
she's looking at you in absolute disgust, anon

>>9447875
I'm pretty sure she's absolutely impressed, my man.

Last to the party. Didn't drink last night cause I was with a friend who's sober as a gopher. Currently sipping some rum + energy drink while at work. Funny how I work 2 jobs to take up my free time so I don't drink as much but I end up getting tipsy at the 2nd job.

>>9447833
I go to the same shop every day buying spirits as soon as it opens. They know me by name. Already banged the qt behind the counter. Why does everyone in these threads seem to care about what the cashiers think?

BTW if you are are asking yourself if your an alcohol, you probably are but a 6 pack is fuck all compared to the people that post in here. Try a litre half of vodka everyday and post back

>>9447891
>Currently sipping some rum + energy drink while at work
Oh god I can't fucking do this
I tried it once when I was drunk and out of mixer.
Such a mistake.
Drank it anyways

>>9447586
>>was my birthday the other day. Forgot how old I was. Turns out I'm 25. Fuck
Try to fix your shit, mate
It doesn't get any easier
Even a few years matters

>>9447806
>I think only the true addicts will ever only understand.
That's the idea of AA. And talks in the smoking court in rehab.
What I meant is that some therapists are not idiots, but they are hard to find.

Also retrospectively, I'm somewhat lucky to have both parents who had alcohol problems.

>>9447833
You're a daily drinker. I'd say problematic consumption, but not alkie. Except if you have withdrawals.
Don't fuck up with the cashier. It'd be a pain if you couldn't go there daily.

>>9447870
As long as you make sure it doesn't increase, and you don't drown your sorrows when some shit happen, you should be OK for a decade or three. Your digestive system will complain at some point though.

Man, I think I really am fucked here guys.
You remember that Jordan Peterson video about drunks? About how they feel a dopamine rush on the first drink? I had a few beers with a bro and just got home. Poured myself a nice rum and coke. And the first few sips, man. Feels like everything's gonna be alright.

That's kinda fucked that this is what makes me feel that

>>9447934
I think I'm too far gone already mate. I can't even imagine life being sober it's soo fucking dull. Being drunk is the same but at least I can feel.

I got sober for around 2 months once and it was hell. Mind racing 24/7.

>>9447982
You don't have to go stone sober.
Just drink a little less until you have a life worth living you know?
Maybe I'm just feeling the "Do something worthwhile or you'll die a loser" clock ticking.

>>9447963
>And the first few sips
Dopamine rush with the taste and idea that you're gonna get drunk is not the problem. It's when it happens while BAC is increasing, so during digestion. It takes 15 minutes to start on an empty stomach, 30 minutes or more with a full stomach.

>>9447982
>Mind racing 24/7.
Try pot, CBD, kratom or see a doc.

>>9447995
>Just drink a little less until you have a life worth living you know?
This is the alcoholism thread. Moderation is not friend with addiction.

>>9448015
This is an alcoholism thread, aye
But there should be a bit of resistance, right?
We're drunks. We're fuck ups and losers and we're addicted.
But we should fight against it as best we can.
Even if that means getting shitfaced 4/7 days
It's better than 5, 6, and 7/7.

Every inch forward counts.

>>9448029
Yeah, if that works for you, good for you. For me, it's either abstinence or I get fucked. Or I vape pot.

>>9448048
If that's what works for you, mate, then yeah you do it.
Just resist the urge to fall back into the pit.

Why doesn't al/ck/ have an IRC?
Who else am I supposed to talk to when I'm drunk and alone in my room at 2 am?

>>9448007
Pot turned on me, it makes me a paranoid mess. I'll look into the other two alternatives though.

One counsellor told me to pour out a glass of vodka down the sink a day. Does she think I'm made of money?

It's a full time job being an alcoholic. I think most of the true alks in these threads are dead or just too fucked up to type.

>>9448062
Second that it's 3am here getting wasted on cheap cider can't sleep at all

>>9448062
I respond to about a dozen threads all across 4chan so that (you)s come in at a regular rate

>>9447963
Working drunk here. Being sober for me means being anxious, awkward, often mean and a wet blanket at best. I work a customer service job and keeping myself tipsy helps with interactions and actually makes me a better worker as long as I don't get too wasted. What sucks most is that it's understood by my closest workmates and friends that I'm actually an all-around better person when I'm drunk than when I'm sober. They would rather risk another blackout than deal with me sober. I'm alone when I'm sober.

>>9448167
I feel that way about myself too.

But I also started drinking late in my life (mid 20s) and I think that people like us can be as good as we are drunk when sober. It just takes practice and the cultivation of an interior confidence.
Booze doesn't change us. We're always like this, but we're shackled by inhibition and inhibition is fed by lack of confidence.

We can be like we are drunk. We just need lots of practice at it and the will to do it.

The excuse I give myself is that my career is shit so I have no reason to be confident in myself. Every conversation with a stranger begins with "So what do you do?" Once I havea good answer to that, then I can teach my self confidence

>>9448167
This is me down to a T apart from the working part. I can't function sober / interact with people. I piss people off and don't mean to do it. When I'm drunk people actually like me and I don't cut myself off from the world.

>>9447830

Hmm, you may be onto something there.
Weekend mornings are top-tier and there are ultra-great deals on the weekdays around here.
Every so often I go out late with friends on the weekend though so it kinda messes that up.

>>9448062
>>9448082

#al/ck/ on rizon perhaps? That's the network where the official 4chan IRC and a bunch of other board IRCs are

>>9448087
Well you're differently more coherent than I am. In my current stupor I could only manage one window at a time. Hopping from thread to thread would only result in disaster.

>>9448228
Yeah, it's my thing. I'm good at talking and literature and shit. I got a degree in it. I wish I fucking didn't. But I fucking do. The fact that I drink is not a coincidence

The only time when I lose cohesion is if I have so much to drink I'm puking my guts and stumbling.
And I don't do that anymore

>>9448223
Just checked. It definitely doesn't exist. Someone should register it. Then we can post it in these al/ck/ threads until it takes off.

I would imagine nothing enlightening will come out of such a channel, but it would be entertaining for those late, restless nights.

>>9448069
I quit at 25 (26 now). The first few months were confusing and filled with anhedonia but now I'm slowly getting my drive back. The reason I quit was because I wanted to either a) Take my alcoholism up a notch and drink close to two bottles a day instead of 1- 1.5 or b) Quit and become something of myself.

So I chose b) and cold turkeyed in a room. Ended in me turning yellow and almost dieing kek. With alcoholism everyday is exactly the same. If I could sleep I'd have rather have stayed there. All I did was keep my eyes shut for three hours then get a broken shitty alcohol sleep. Youtube becomes boring. Games become boring. You become boring. Quit now while the idea is in your head and get stuff done. Come back to it all later.

>>9448180
>The excuse I give myself is that my career is shit so I have no reason to be confident in myself. Every conversation with a stranger begins with "So what do you do?" Once I havea good answer to that, then I can teach my self confidence

I've felt like this for so fucking long. Unemployed now after almost 10 years at a shit job where I was one promotion above teenagers. No idea what the fuck I'm going to do with my life. Got enough money to last me about a year but I really want to know what I'm doing and where I'm going sooner rather than later.

>>9448477
Tech school

>>9448489
Nah.

>>9448477
I'm going military
My pop was
I grew up in that life

Surprising it took that long for me to get to that conclusion

Goddamn it I am struggling to not go buy booze.

what is everyone's opinion on chicks who drink chick beer?

>>9448976
I don't have one.

>>9446017
I've used a goddamn butter knife. Same, with cheap ass gross wine. Cork stuck brings that level of fear yet utter motivation that you're going to get the sweet nectar at any cost.

>>9447445
Oh, you'll know.

When you wake up with guilt / embarrassment / disdain from the previous alcohol episode.

Or simply, you have to hide your alcohol usage.

How do I make myself wasn't to stop? I only want to want to

>>9449231
I feel like you need an aim, goal or something to work towards that can only be accomplished through sobriety.

I'm three days sober and I've been internally debating all day whether to go buy a bottle. It just seems like there's no tangible benefit from abstinence.

NNNOOOOOOOOOOO, SHE IS KIL D:

anyone else have to drink or else they can't really force themselves to eat?

>woke up at 4:30am
>kick around for a while but can't get back to sleep
>gf is still asleep
>fuck it let's get 5:30am hammered
Pretty comfy desu

>>9449305
my favorite feeling is drinking during the sunrise.
mostly because of the times i drank with long gone friends into the morning
god i miss having nothing to worry about

>>9449311
I hear you. I have friends I miss, myself. Nowadays I always try to beat the damn sun and fall back asleep so I don't snooze through the day like a complete degenerate.
I'm a NEET at the moment, and while my bills are paid my money is sure to run out soon. What are your worries, anon?

>>9449318
dumb shit like school and family
I mostly just meant not having to deal with work and school so i suppose you know exactly what i meant
I just want to be able to get wasted without my wife worrying i guess
family wise i dug myself into a shitty situation by getting along a little TOO well with my sister in law and it causing a turmoil

>>9449261
>That one can
She's no kill, Anon. She drank a can after the garbage people cleaned the place.
Had you let your message in a bottle?

>>9445142

>>9449332
Rough. I have family but I don't see them more than once every month or two because I travel up to them. I haven't started one of my own yet.
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
Also- gf doesn't have sisters so that's a safeguard, hah.

>>9449332
Also- what are you in school for?

5 months sober tomorrow
Just believe in yourself.

>>9449368
I believe I'll have a beer

Haven't popped in for a while. How you all getting along? Got myself like 30 free beers over the weekend due to free ones+leftovers from a family gathering so that made my weekend a bit cheaper.

>>9448976
Whats a chick beer? Most of the women that I know who drink beer just drink whatever really.

>>9449358
I'm 26, I'm an electrical engineering student
jesus man i wish she was on my wifes side of the senpai
i was drunk and i guess was a little too smooth with my brothers fiancee. dont remember any of it, so i dont think about it much (except for when i miss my brother)
either way, gonna try to go to bed
good luck on your troubles anon, pray those mountains turn out to be mole hills

>>9448223
>>9448062
>>9448082
>>9448087
>>9448246
Done and done. I'll be in there lurking, not going to be at my computer all day so don't be disheartened if there's no activity. Just come in and idle for awhile while we get some people in.

>>9449387
A link would be nice

>>9449411
It's better to use an IRC client and connect to irc.rizon.net and join #al/ck/, but there's also a web client at qchat.rizon.net

>>9443509
Eat some fiber and stop drinking rot gut.
Other then that I dunno what the fuck is wrong with you.

>>9445875
Had to REEEE.
>>9445834
Quite breaking the law and you wont get fucked hard.
Do what I did when I was underage.
Drive during the week, during the sunlight hours and drive the limit, also wear a belt.
Its easy to drive drunk and with out a license its hard when you live in a state that requires plates.

>>9445874
And you wonder why american make fun of you guys.
What happen to you lads? I always wanted to visit the UK and do a pub crawl but hearing stuff like this turns me way off it.
Why cant you guys oppose this law?

>>9447205
White and powder or beige and rock?

>>9449422
>stop drinking rot gut.

What the fuck is rot gut?

>>9447879
No my man thats bud light tier beer.
Seriously just buy some jameson or bacardi and get her attention that way.

>>9447982
From one booze hound to another quiting cold turkey isnt going to help.
Just drink and try to hit rock bottom, see what happens when you drink and dont care.
Seriously sounds stupid right? you cannot force your self to stop.
Its a weird documentary I watched on addicts sometimes its better to hit "your" rock bottom and then WANT to stop.

>>9449457
The shittiest cheapest highest Acl percent available.
Think bottom shelf.
Sorry for the mega posting im bored.

thought i wasn't going to drink tonight.

bought a sixer, told myself it would be my last. bought another sixer, told myself it would be my last and it would make me through tomorrow. i'm currently on my fifth drink of sixer #2, and it's past 4 AM. i sincerely would like to not drink tomorrow, even if it means sabotaging my comfort or peace of mind... but i felt the same way today, and i bought one six pack after another nonetheless.

i've been on a year long bender. i want this ride to end, but i don't want to get off. truthfully, i kind of wish my mother, who is my foremost supporter throughout all of this, would kind of fuck off for a bit so i could focus on myself without her help or harping. i don't want support, sympathy, or monetary help. i just want to force myself out of this. i want to believe that i'm better than the life i've made for myself.

i have one more drink left. should i pour this shit out for symbolism or something? wait until tomorrow for the near inevitable hair of the dog? i don't care anymore (until the WDs start, of course), i want to feel like myself before i was an alcoholic again

>>9449473
Ah. I only drink Wild Turkey. Wouldn't call it bottom shelf.

>>9449457
bumwine.com for all your rot gut needs.

>>9449479
save it for tomorrow, have the one drink and remind yourself that you want it to end. Come back and re-read your post when you're tempted to buy more

>>9449411
This is all you need to join:
https://chat.mibbit.com/?channel=%23al/ck/&server=irc.rizon.net

Or download something like Hexchat and join that way

>>9449496
should post this in the next OP, make it the IRC edition

>>9449506
Not >>9449496 but yes, why not.
70 posts until bump limit.

>>9449542
hey, i'm enjoying the three's company here

welcome to any ongoing chat service, though. IRC preferred. /ck/ moves fairly quickly, and darn it, i like you guys

bulleit rye

sweet dreams, al/ck/s. a thank you to the IRC for their future whiskey suggestions

Attempting first day sober this year... it's 10:30 at night and i am bored as shit

>>9448500
After all the training you'll still drink just as much.
I drink even more than I used to as a civilian, now my body cand handle it better from better health

>>9449496
I've no keyboard, just windows onscreen keyboard operated with a touchpad. It takes me minutes to write a sentence. Other pls join and just lurk, so I don't feel such a misfit ;_;

>>9449687
>I've no keyboard
Drunken accident?

>>9449721
Probably. It has joined like 5 laptops, 5 phones and... in total, a five figure stash of completely ruined hardware, in my silicone graveyard. I'm waiting to be sober long enough to save the money to have them all fixed

>>9449349
The message is gone ;_;
Maybe she's here, and is just shy

>>9449729
That sucks man, hope you get it sorted soon. Worst I have done so far is fall into my desk while hammered and smash my monitor, everything else seemed to survive thankfully

>drank a fifth last night
>told the woman I like that I want to kill myself
>pass out
>wake up an hour later to 36 texts
Fuck me

>>9449901
I did that once. Stupid cunt called the police. While I was passed out 3 cops kicked my door down, dug through all my stuff, rounded up all my guns, and when I protested, they beat the ever-living fuck out of me. The head officer and I don't get along, and I declined mental evaluation so the fucker drove me to the ER himself and I had to strip naked in front of a group of people right in the middle of the ER,wasn't even allowed underwear because of the elastic, they refused me to do so in a bathroom because I was "a risk to myself". Dressed only in a thin linen gown I had sit in a locked 60F room that had nothing in it except a reinforced camera in the ceiling for 30 fucking hours, then got moved to a mental ward. They essentially forced me to sign a voluntary commitment or else I would be involuntarily committed which is a minimum of 2 weeks stay, no questions asked. At no point was I allowed to make a phone call to let anyone know where the fuck I was since this all happened in the middle of the night. Luckily I got my guns back after that nightmare, except my M4 carbine because, to quote the dick cop I don't get along with when I went to the station, "It's a destructive device"; It's my fucking legally owned property and fits all state, local and federal guidelines.

Be VERY FUCKING CAREFUL what you say, man.

>>9449901
As >>9450001 said, it's generally not a good idea to tell certain people that.

>>9450001
I'm finding a therapist in a few weeks and at the moment don't own any guns. But that fucking sucks, man. She almost did call someone for me too

>>9450001
>land of the free

That's some Orwellian shit.

>>9449734
Maybe she googled "4chan", saw it was a paedophile nazi hacker site and never considered visiting.

>>9449901
Sounds like everyday to me

>>9449506
I second this.

Please announce to our fellow drun/ck/s that we now have an IRC for our late-night-bender enjoyment.

>>9450001
fucking hate police for doing shit like this to me
now i have to make do with pipeguns from the hardware store if i want to kms

>>9450192
This kills the general.

>>9450395
that's where you're wrong kiddo
for a shitton of reasons

>>9450403
I agree with >>9450395 tbqh. Nuclear wars between 4chins and IRC imminent

>>9450414
I'm a person who loves IRC but i never post in the generals. some people might like both. i don't really see it "killing" the general. Lots of people don't like the IM style but like imageboards and vice versa

Who else /feeling complete shit/ here

>>9450433
Yeah you're not alone. I feel really fucking shit. I wish I were in a coma.

Your daily motivation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Kmh4BbJPz8

>>9450465
Cured me

>>9450419
Agreed. If people don't like IRC, they don't have to join the channel. They can stick with the general.

>>9449379
>i was drunk and i guess was a little too smooth with my brothers fiancee
kek. madman

>>9450001
I'm fucking glad that quads weren't wasted on you, clint, except despite what you make it out to be you're the faggot that fucked up by opening your stupid alcoholic fuckhole.

>>9450898
You seem to be lost. This thread isn't for children. Shoo.

Four quid left.
Wat do

>>9450997
Get a red that's at least 13.5%

>>9451010
For £4? Christ
Ok, 3 cans on omega and a bottle of food colouring it is.

Fuck this, walking to a supermarket for a better selection

>>9443333
Checked. In a shithole state like Indiana this is about what it's like. Switches from hottest most sweltering summers you can imagine to absolute arctic winter overnight.
Glad I don't live there anymore.
I even prefer cold weather but it's just the instant transition is too insane.

>>9450943
Fuck you, newfag

>>9451013
It can be done at Tesco or Asda, maybe Sainsburys if they have something on offer I wager

>>9451043
>>9451013

if you can scrounge together another £1 somehow then you can find one of those offies that do the god awful 2 for £5 "Italian wine"

>>9451043
>>9451055
Limping to a supermarket. Will post a pic of my choices in about 20 mins

>>9451061
So close :<

>>9451118
There's nothing for £4

what are you going to do tomorrow when you dont have any more pounds? why cant you scrounge up the change?

>>9443207
>doesn’t list surviving spouse or children
>gib mony instead of flowers pls
Dead loser from a loser family. If you miss your boyfriend so much, join him.

>>9447603
your point about denial and opinions/facts makes sense theoretically. In fact, for some trauma, conditions, difficult situations, denial is a healthy coping mechanism. For some people, thinking something is "a problem" causes more trouble for them than the actual thing.
However, denial isn't just a difference of opinions, it involves someone willfully ignoring something that is happening. Self-destruction is only NOT a problem if you are living in a vacuum, whether or not you disapprove of it, it takes a toll on things outside of yourself.

Sod it. Used a credit card. Have scrumpy. Got some delicious grape juice and sushi too.

Fuck strongbow btw. Heartburn fuel with a barely noticeable whisper of alch. Nothx

>>9448015
everyone is different, and actually many people who have substance use/abuse issues find ways to moderate. By saying it is impossible, you are making it impossible for yourself sorry.

>>9451154
>tomorrow?
Fucked if I know.
Cheers

>>9451224
Look out everyone, someone here knows everything

>>9451212
>>9451230
for some reason posts like this make me miss the days of multi day blackouts, seizures, and shit like that
wew

>>9451212
>>9451230
Fuckin cheers mate, hope tonight finds you well

>>9450419
is that some kind of vaporwave beer?

>>9450997
>there are people in this world who buy overpriced 4packs of mexican piss voluntarily

makes me sad tbqhwufam

>>9451224
>By saying it is impossible, you are making it impossible for yourself sorry.
I tried, many times, when I thought I could do it.

I think I finally got it
ethyl acetate freezes at -83.6 °C
acetone is at -94.7 °C
methanol is at -97.6 °C
ethanol is at -114.14 °C
However ethylene has a boiling point of -103.7°C, meaning that you can relatively effectively precipitate out everything but the methanol with it, which you can then filter off, and then let the ethylene evaporate away, leaving only your ethanol remaining, and some water depending on how thorough you have been with your drying steps
however you will still need to source the ethylene, which is at cryogenic temperatures, and get equipment to handle it.
optimally there should've been a cryogenic liquid with a boiling point slightly warmer than the freezing point of ethanol to make everything faster, but I can't find any right now.

>>9451281
>>9451281
>meaning that you can relatively effectively precipitate out everything but the methanol with it
ethanol, sorry

IS ZHAT VUTKA IS SMEEL?

>>9451284
I love ruining threads.

>>9451281
>>9451283
one could also use frozen ethanol from a previous batch to lower the temperature of the ice bath further, but you I don't think it would be worth it, considering it would be hard to separate, rather just use ethylene in a good ventilated area without ANY ignition sources, preferably outside in the middle of winter

>>9451316

my friend tried homedistilling and the idiot, inspecting his hard work, lit up a cigarette

could've gone much worse but lost quite a lot of arm-skin

>>9451281
And how do you intent to reach such temperatures? Most freezers are about -18°C, they don't go below -30°C, -40°C maybe.
You'll need very special equipment, it'll take years to reimburse your investment.

>>9451322
>lighting a cigarette anywhere near flammable gases
dude
anyway I was talking about the ethylene in this case since the flash point is -136 °C
autoignition temp is at around 500 though

>>9451339
>"but it was fine when I smoked near my beer brewing!"

literally his words

>>9451336
nitrogen is one alternative
you could also get specialist equipment, either by borrowing or purchasing, lets say, something that can condense nitrogen out of the air, then buy your ethylene in cans and condense and freeze that with the nitrogen, which boils at -200ish.
this makes ethanol a side business though, as liquid nitrogen could be pretty profitable

>>9451349
found this with some googling
http://www.instructables.com/id/Homemade-liquid-nitrogen-generator/

>>9451349
can you sell liquid nitrogen as just a .. guy? surely you need licenses and equipment and stuff

>>9451358
depends on how legal you play, but it gives you something to do if nothing else

>>9443174
I've been sweating in my sleep lately but I don't even drink... Could I be alcoholic?

>>9451367
>I have a mild headache but I don't even have sex, could I have AIDS?

>psst...hey man, want some nitrogen?

>>9451385

>>9451379
I lol'd

If alcohol is s diuretic, why do I nearly DIE from thirst if I sober up?

>>9451439
because you don't notice yourself being thirsty for one
also something something metabolism of ethanol

i drank for three days and now i'm afraid of sleeping

Hey guys I'm not al/ck/ anymore! I still drink as much as I did before but my psychology has changed. You can do it too!

>>9451620
the real issue is changing the thought pattern behind it
I find myself reaching for ethanol if I've had to little or too much to stress in a day

who here is a responsible drunk? I feel like I'm always telling other people to drink water and shit

>>9451755
same my duderino
pity I never follow my own advice

>>9451764
Just refill their waters and do yours at the same time

who here is irresponsible drunk? I feel like I'm always telling other people to kill themselves and shit

Can't stand another day like this. Ditching alcohol and going back to heroin. This life is savage.

new whenever

>>9451888
>>9451888
>>9451888
>>9451888
>>9451888

I went through a liter of heaven hill rum last night. This morning I've been puking lots of blood and can't keep anything down. What do you suggest so I can get started on this fresh liter